Revealing the 4 Faces of Borderline Personality

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • If you have been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, do you know which subtypes or subtype fit you best? This video will identify and discuss the 4 Borderline Personality Subtypes: Discouraged or "Quiet", Petulant, Impulsive, & Self-Destructive and provide criteria for each. These subtypes are based on the work by Millon, Theodore (1996). Disorders of Personality: DSM-IV-TM and Beyond. New York: John Wiley and Sons.
    The video discusses the tendency of these types to overlap and how to go about learning more about your diagnosis and treatment approaches for each of the 4 types.
    Learn more by subscribing to my channel or at www.drdfox.com
    Are you in a BPD and NPD relationship?
    This video will discuss the make-up of the Borderline Personality & Narcissistic Personality Disordered Couple. In this video we discuss what draws these 2 people together, ways to manage the relationship, each partner's unique personality traits, how they interact to create the War of The Roses, and important considerations to engage, minimize, and stabilize.
    Learn more about Dr. Fox and the identification and treatment of personality disorders by subscribing to this channel or going to his website at www.drdfox.com
    Citations:
    Kaslow, F.W. (1996). Handbook of relational diagnosis and dysfunctional family patterns. Oxford, England: John Wiley & Sons.
    Lachkar, J. (1992). The narcissistic/borderline couple: A psychoanalytic perspective on marital treatment. New York: Brunner-Routledge.
    Daniel J. Fox, Ph.D., is a licensed psychologist in Texas, international speaker, and award winning author. He has been specializing in the treatment and assessment of individuals with personality disorders for over 15 years in the state and federal prison system, universities, and in private practice. His specialty areas include personality disorders, ethics, burnout prevention, and emotional intelligence.
    He has published several articles in these areas and is the author of:
    The Clinician’s Guide to Diagnosis and Treatment of Personality Disorders: goo.gl/ZAVe9v
    Antisocial, Borderline, Narcissistic and Histrionic Workbook: Treatment Strategies for Cluster B Personality Disorders (IPBA Benjamin Franklin Gold Award Winner): goo.gl/BLRkFy
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder Toolbox: 55 Practical Treatment Techniques for Clients, Their Parents & Their Children: www.amazon.com...
    The Borderline Personality Disorder Workbook: An Integrative Program to Understand and Manage Your BPD -COMING SOON-
    Dr. Fox has been teaching and supervising students for over 15 years at various universities across the United States, some of which include West Virginia University, Texas A&M University, University of Houston, Sam Houston State University, and Florida State University. He is currently a staff psychologist in the federal prison system, Adjunct Assistant Professor at University of Houston, as well as maintaining a private practice that specializes in the assessment and treatment of individuals with complex psychopathology and personality disorders.
    Dr. Fox has given numerous workshops and seminars on ethics and personality disorders, personality disorders and crime, treatment solutions for treating clients along the antisocial, borderline, narcissistic, and histrionic personality spectrum, emotional intelligence, managing mental health within the prison system, and others. Dr. Fox maintains a website of various treatment interventions focused on working with and attenuating the symptomatology related to individuals along the antisocial, borderline, narcissistic, and histrionic personality spectrum (www.drdfox.com).
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    Thank you for your attention and I hope you enjoy my videos and find them helpful. I always welcome topic suggestions and comments.

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  • @TriciaBooth
    @TriciaBooth Před 4 lety +1380

    After 15 years of living with a BPD partner, I feel like all four characteristics come out at different times.

    • @victordemarco01
      @victordemarco01 Před 4 lety +194

      I was just thinking the same thing. I have been all 4 at times which makes me feel like a huge burden and a spoiled brat. Having BPD sucks the big one!!!

    • @tomsebastian1042
      @tomsebastian1042 Před 4 lety +70

      Tell me how you cope up with the given situations, I have completed 12 yrs with my partner who just been diagnosed as having BPD. The hard part from the past 12 years that ,I wasnt aware of her issue and that made me angry most of the time instead of understanding .

    • @victordemarco01
      @victordemarco01 Před 4 lety +60

      @@tomsebastian1042i know you aren't asking me how i deal with it since i have the BPD, but i can tell you that my husband has been my rock through this all. I have wondered so many times why he stays. My own family has told him to leave me. But i know how much we love one another and we promised eachother for better or worse. But, i got help. I saw many doctors before they told me i had BPD. i started a great anti depressant and got it under control. It is hard, but if you love your spouse you can get through it.

    • @tomsebastian1042
      @tomsebastian1042 Před 4 lety +12

      @@victordemarco01 thank you .ofcorse I love her

    • @victordemarco01
      @victordemarco01 Před 4 lety +21

      @@tomsebastian1042 yes, i hope you didn't think i was impyling that you did not. BPD sucks all the way around and just wanted you to know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 Před 3 lety +164

    0:48, 5:50, 6:30 Quiet
    1:32, 7:14 Petulant
    2:30, 6:13, 8:00 Impulsive
    3:21, 6:13, 8:35 Self Destructive

  • @BexlarsIRL
    @BexlarsIRL Před 6 lety +1654

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for not demonizing the disorder. You're honest and clear and say it how it is, without hinting that everyone with BPD is an abuser. I've found that BPD videos on CZcams can be very hit and miss or just flat out biased/prejudiced and it's incredibly refreshing to find your channel. Thank you.

    • @fjg9398
      @fjg9398 Před 5 lety +42

      Problem is a lot of them are though. ive dealt with a borderline ex that had a threesome with 2 dudes whilst we were still together. And I'm quite sure she wanted me to know about it. I obviously can't generalize off of one dumb bitch, but since then I always stayed away from people who showed signs of the disorder, just because the risk of getting hurt is too high for me.

    • @mattotterpop
      @mattotterpop Před 5 lety +5

      ditto, and amen!

    • @iloveyoohtaco
      @iloveyoohtaco Před 5 lety +68

      Its so hard to hear people calling those with BPD evil or cruel. Id like to think of myself as a good person but hearing that backs that doubt in yourself even more.

    • @fjg9398
      @fjg9398 Před 5 lety +15

      @Olivia As said the risk is too high for me. I agree its not fair of me, but its the best for me.

    • @cherrymcgillicuddy6300
      @cherrymcgillicuddy6300 Před 5 lety +35

      I am very fortunate to have a therapist like him that looks at this from a compassionate clinical view. Compassion is what we with BPD need! Information is what we need! Direction is what we need! Not the criticism and disgust I know I have encountered from those that have no idea how our brains work.

  • @belalabusultan5911
    @belalabusultan5911 Před 4 lety +269

    I am quiet when I am depressed, impulsive when I am happy, Self Destructive when I am angry, and Petulant when I feel strong.....
    no wonder my doctor can just describe anti-depressants and hope for the best lol

    • @Jigglybuff96
      @Jigglybuff96 Před 3 lety +5

      That's me to a tee...

    • @AB-ih4ms
      @AB-ih4ms Před 3 lety +2

      This is me too!!!

    • @comingsn2519
      @comingsn2519 Před 3 lety +1

      Do i know you? How did you know im the same way.... I can 1000+ relate to this....!

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jigglybuff96
      it gets better with time, humans can adapt to anything

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 Před 3 lety +2

      @@AB-ih4ms it gets better with time, humans can adapt to anything

  • @Lulabellexd
    @Lulabellexd Před 6 lety +1041

    I am all 4 at certain points. I try to be the quiet one but mostly I'm the petulant one. I can be so nice and then explode like a volcano, which shocks people cos they don't know I have this disorder

    • @carlthellama3435
      @carlthellama3435 Před 6 lety +50

      Lucy I can relate. For me it's a bother to talk to people. I'm fine having a conversation but often times people simply don't know when to shut up. They don't take hints and I don't want to tell them to shut up lol

    • @gothicgrl606
      @gothicgrl606 Před 6 lety +11

      I feel like I’m 3 of them, I’m not that impulsive at all.

    • @eunbikkabi
      @eunbikkabi Před 6 lety +2

      Lucy me too!

    • @gerttherude6366
      @gerttherude6366 Před 6 lety +16

      I feel your pain , it is especially strange to have as a male , as jordan peterson says " BPD is the feminine version of antisocial behaviour disorder in many ways." stay strong ! :)

    • @gerttherude6366
      @gerttherude6366 Před 6 lety +2

      thankyou for the info :) take care

  • @Weightingtablesafter
    @Weightingtablesafter Před 4 lety +238

    “Engages in substance abuse...” he says as I light my morning joint lol

    • @Weightingtablesafter
      @Weightingtablesafter Před 3 lety +15

      Kasey Dutton its legal where i am too. But its still getting high to avoid feeling stressed. I agree weed isnt like other drugs but in that i use it to reduce stress, its the same.

    • @duhduh1996
      @duhduh1996 Před 3 lety +4

      @@kasey1998d it’s still a drug doesn’t matter wether it’s legal it still affects your brain

    • @megoncle
      @megoncle Před 3 lety +2

      Lol, same

    • @katiehunt3083
      @katiehunt3083 Před 3 lety +11

      @@duhduh1996 so do prescription drugs....all of them. Some of us have tried both and prefer natural vs. pills

    • @josoffat7649
      @josoffat7649 Před 3 lety +3

      @@kasey1998d dude, alcoholism ain't no joke... weed is fucking with my mind, I don't drink but I need to smoke up, but, at the same time it makes it so much worse.It's a double edged sword for me.

  • @jhrevelator
    @jhrevelator Před 4 lety +27

    As you can well imagine the struggle, myself and my wife of 25 years BOTH have borderline. We have spent the majority of it in heavy therapy, DBT gropus, hospitals, drug treamnet plans, and we have two brilliantly gifted teaanagers along for the ride. They understand us and love us as we do them. In the early days of our marrriage it was pure hell on earth everyday until we sought help. Real help that understood us. Made all the difference!

  • @TheCatApocalypse
    @TheCatApocalypse Před 5 lety +165

    I’ve been dealing with BPD since I was 13 (26 now) so literally half of my life. In my teens I was the self destructive subtype but in my 20s I’m the petulant subtype. I find it interesting that I have changed, yet I wouldn’t say I’ve gotten “better”. I love that your videos don’t demonize BPD sufferers. I didn’t choose this illness, I try to be good to people. If I could choose to be not mentally ill, I’d choose it in a heartbeat.

    • @justsomebloke6784
      @justsomebloke6784 Před 4 lety +10

      @MsYogaGrrrl Having lived with this for 57 years, I would argue strenuously about being able to change ones personality. The personality is inherent ; what one can change are responses to stimulus, and even that depends on being aware of ones emotional state at the time of responding to stimulus. I am voluntarily celibate, as I have learned that I CANNOT manage romantic/sexual relationships and trying only brings about misery for all involved. I think that when you use the word 'psychopathy', you actually mean 'psychopathology', which is a very different thing. Your response to Whitney's comment was at best invalidating, and brings to mind new-age thinking that reflects the responsibility for the being of ones mental health problems back on to the sufferer in a manner that apportions blame. Happy-clappy positivism is out of place when speaking of personality disorders in general, as no-one chooses the combination of propensity and circumstances that often forms those personality types. This is not a statement of hopelessness, more one of realistic expectations of the self, and comments like yours are myopic and unhelpful.

    • @NW-dl3bb
      @NW-dl3bb Před 3 lety +2

      Choose to stop. It's your choice

    • @KateBates22zabu
      @KateBates22zabu Před 2 lety

      @@NW-dl3bb are you advocating suicide?

    • @cristinarusu6133
      @cristinarusu6133 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey Witney, I just came across your comment and I was just curious how do you know you are dealing with this since 13 as I know Pshichiatrists are not putting a diagnostic until you are 18 as your personality is not fully developed. Maybe that's why you think you changed a lot because you are still quit young? Personally I haven't been diagnosed as I couldn't pay for therapy but I know I have it too :(

    • @lunaedward6574
      @lunaedward6574 Před rokem

      @@NW-dl3bb It really is. Imo a personality disorder diagnosis should be a the first step at becoming self aware of the patterns and behaviors a person acquires after being subjected to early negligence or abuse and working to shatter these patterns. It is not something like autism, which I’m stuck with.

  • @samanthavorster533
    @samanthavorster533 Před 5 lety +196

    20 years later and still battling with it. Never know which personality I will be from one moment to the next. No idea who I actually am.

    • @xenatron9056
      @xenatron9056 Před 4 lety +31

      My sister screamed at me during a heated argument..."Do you even know who you are?".....it stopped me in my tracks because for the first time I realised that I have no idea who or what I am. No wonder I always feel alone.....people want something from me, but I have no idea what to give, when to give, how much to give and dang near impossible to trust anything I get.
      Kind of depressing really, I always seem to get it wrong.

    • @mingakinsgibayuxds7542
      @mingakinsgibayuxds7542 Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you!
      My thoughts exactly

    • @BrownSkinnedDiva95
      @BrownSkinnedDiva95 Před 4 lety +1

      This is relatable

    • @petergriffiinbirdistheword
      @petergriffiinbirdistheword Před 3 lety +4

      You are not alone 💘

    • @lissaipock8630
      @lissaipock8630 Před 3 lety +1

      Same.

  • @NikkisNightWatch
    @NikkisNightWatch Před 6 lety +132

    I have a combination of all four, but fit more into the quiet subtype. I am only self destructive if i am feeling empty, bored, abandoned or triggered.

  • @jjnich4915
    @jjnich4915 Před 5 lety +44

    Diagnosed at 21. Male. I'm Discouraged/Quiet and Impulsive with a little self destructiveness when I hit critical mass. 2 years now. A lot more in control but every single day is a battle. One day I'll be free of this.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +12

      Stay the course and stay strong!! What you said is inspiring to others. Be well.

    • @jjnich4915
      @jjnich4915 Před 5 lety +7

      @@DrDanielFox Thank you. Your words of encouragement help me a lot thank you for replying that made my day!

  • @winterclevenger7307
    @winterclevenger7307 Před 5 lety +93

    I used to be self destructive and impulsive but now I'm more of a quiet BPD. I've learned how to deal with it after many years and I don't do alot of the reckless or crazy stuff anymore. Mostly I'm just peaceful and reflective. I think alot before I allow myself to act or make any decisions. I definitely am still struggling with being dependent (by nature) on others and not snapping to extremes when pushed into a corner. Thanks for the informative video!

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +16

      Building insight is the start, great job.

    • @cangirl313
      @cangirl313 Před 5 lety

      Winter Clevenger how did you heal from the self destructive and impulsive behaviour?

    • @okbye9542
      @okbye9542 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes me too

    • @princesspeach7496
      @princesspeach7496 Před 3 lety +3

      Finally a comment i can really relate to and respect. I worked my ass off in therapy, and even before that i've practiced great amounts of restraint and self reflecting and thinking of the consequences before i act. In every comment section of every video about BPD, all i see is Borderliners whining and complaining and then whining and complaining more. The thought of "belonging" to this group of individuals makes me sick to my stomach.

    • @kgsjk
      @kgsjk Před 3 lety

      Same. I discovered about my diagnosis two days back, and that's why I am a lot more conscious about my emotions, and hence, I feel that I can now resonate with silent type. However, before I strongly resonated with impulsive type, and bit of self destructive one.

  • @ashleytkl3036
    @ashleytkl3036 Před 6 lety +243

    4 for me. Some traits are there. Some isn't. But exists in all 4 types. Became obvious in my 20's. Got worst entering 30. Due to circumstances/situation. I chose spiritual..it helps me. And combine with good and healthy mindset(thought life), i am almost normal but for the anxiety sometimes and emotional. The daily suicide thoughts ceased. The cold hollow chest emptiness lessen much. Less anger and frustrations. Breathing techniques, Good music and watching the skies or atleast pictures of serenity/nature. A stray cat that trusts/shows herself/ affectionate only to me is a bonus. Last but not least; prayer life is a must. That is how i overcome. And this is not the first illness i recovered from.

    • @elleelle5847
      @elleelle5847 Před 6 lety +6

      Ashley Tkl Thank you for that.

    • @ashleytkl3036
      @ashleytkl3036 Před 6 lety +18

      Leah Cassidy
      We must always remind one another. Stay strong. It is harder when you get stronger but once you overcome..it is worth all the misery. I recovered. And i cant talk about what i went through. But believe me; the freedom is INDESCRIBABLE.

    • @elleelle5847
      @elleelle5847 Před 6 lety +5

      Ashley Tkl I will try to do that as well. I have been meaning to but you know how it can be. Scattered everywhere hardly any energy sometimes, but I think I can do it. People like you remind me that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

    • @ashleytkl3036
      @ashleytkl3036 Před 6 lety +8

      Leah Cassidy
      Not end of the tunnel. There is light even now. Choose well. I am feeling for you. I have been there. Hang on. Choose your associates wisely too ok. You know how to get to me if need to. Key is: choose life. Death means no hope at all. At All.

    • @matthewcallaghan1512
      @matthewcallaghan1512 Před 6 lety

      Hi

  • @reallyaznokidding
    @reallyaznokidding Před 6 lety +285

    I believe one can carry all four, depending on triggers, and if kind of the subtypes don't work at a particular time.

    • @SkullKing11841
      @SkullKing11841 Před 6 lety +6

      I think you're right. There are like 250 different variations of diagnosis you can have as Borderline. He does address this in the video accurately.

    • @catwhisperer9524
      @catwhisperer9524 Před 6 lety +9

      That was my question.. I don't have different personalities.. but how I feel I need to act or "survive" depends on the situation.. I flip.. Often.

    • @catwhisperer9524
      @catwhisperer9524 Před 6 lety +1

      I feel went from quiet in my teens to petulant in my 20's to impulsive in my mid to late 20's, to self destructive.... :/

    • @reallyaznokidding
      @reallyaznokidding Před 5 lety +5

      Cat Whisperer
      I have gone back and forth through all of them, depending on the living, working, relationship situations throughout the years.

    • @jessicataylor7174
      @jessicataylor7174 Před 3 lety

      @@catwhisperer9524 You've outlined my journey too. Quiet and petulant as a child, then impulsive and self-destructive as an adult. When things feel good I'm impulsive to the extreme and confusingly it has given me most of my best experiences in life. When I am depressed I am still impulsive but overtly self-destructive. I used to like my impulsive side but have only recently started to recognise how dangerous and damaging it is. I'm a little lost atm. It used to feel like only the self-destructive side needed to change, but now it's both and I don't have anything in between. Every little piece of the puzzle helps it feel real and recognised, which gives me some hope I might find myself somewhere along the way. Thank you for your post, I hope you're doing well :)

  • @ErinWilke
    @ErinWilke Před 5 lety +98

    I'm definitely a split between discouraged and self-destructive. It always seemed like I fit the criteria perfectly, but I wasn't sure that I was borderline because my presentation seems much different than most media and patients we get. I tried to explain it to my ex as thinking borderline, but not acting outwardly (because I tend to shut down, dissociate, or in the past drink/SH/drive recklessly). I'm very prone to isolating for fear that I'll hurt or be hurt by others. Learning more has helped me come to terms with it and start to work on getting through it better

    • @CECItheMATOS
      @CECItheMATOS Před 4 lety +1

      I’ve had a similar experience with bpd! I was just diagnosed and I was in denial because I did not see myself as I saw bps in the media. I’m very impulsive, but with myself. I’ll have incredible mood swings, but I won’t lash out on people (unless it’s my family hehe).

    • @CECItheMATOS
      @CECItheMATOS Před 4 lety +6

      Like you said, being borderline but acting inwardly. Anger and self hatred and extreme emotions, but inside. Only sometimes letting it be seen and then feeling TERRIBLE about showing it.

    • @katariina7697
      @katariina7697 Před 2 lety

      Yes, same here.

    • @katariina7697
      @katariina7697 Před 2 lety

      But actually I'm also impulsive, but that's the side I've managed to fix best so far. I laughed when Dr. Fox said about impulsives that "off they go", because that used to be me, off I went (kind of like a car with no-one behind the wheel). It's not funny really, but it is a little bit.

  • @naturalselectioninterventi4805

    We identify ourselves by saying "I am borderline" vs I am dx bpd because that is what we are told. We aren't given much hope of "being cured" or even improving a little. It is the most hopeless feeling in the world. Once you get branded as borderline, most mental health professionals throw their hands in the air and can't back away fast enough. We are the "black sheep" of the mental illness community. People who have to deal with someone dx are absolutely victims, I agree with that 100%, but someone with BPD is also the victim. NOBODY would chose to suffer from this bullshit. Its debilitating and I am so fucking tired of being told how me simply existing ruins everyone around me. I isolate myself to the absolute extreme. My ultimate goal in life is to have people who have the unfortunate luck to know me forget I exist. The hardest thing for me to wrap my fucked up borderline brain around is that the very people who played a major role in me developing this disorder are the ones turning around, taking no accountability for what happened to me at a young age and giving up on me. Having the emotional maturity of a 4 year old is nothing I would have chosen. There is a reason why borderlines have the highest suicide rates. WE ARE AWFUL. I always wonder who I would have been if my parents hatred for each other wasn't stronger than the love for their kids and my mom wasn't magnetically drawn to abusive raping pedophiles that she turned a blind eye to. I have never been a daughter to them. I was leverage for my mom to hurt my dad and nothing but a financial burden to him. Fuck it all. This is why I choose to suffer in silence. I don't even want to deal with myself so why would I force someone else to?
    And there is the stereotypical rant for the night from a bpd in crisis (anyone reading this with BPD just shook their heads and laughed at that because we all do it).
    Edit: I love this thread... you bpd bitches like me are my favorite ♥️ . We may be crazy but we are sassy and sarcastic. Literally one of the only good traits that comes out of this bullshit dx!

    • @gaiasaskia9047
      @gaiasaskia9047 Před 6 lety +24

      Ronda Kordick FUCKING YES!!! I felt that like a tonne of bricks girl 👏 couldn't have said it better myself 😘

    • @nodramamomma2777
      @nodramamomma2777 Před 6 lety +18

      I'm so sorry. Drs. don't know everything, please don't give up trying to get better and do better.

    • @ashleymarie4021
      @ashleymarie4021 Před 6 lety +44

      I feel you. Crisis mode is the worst. The up side to BPD though is that you'll be feeling fine again in a few minutes. lol

    • @naturalselectioninterventi4805
      @naturalselectioninterventi4805 Před 6 lety +19

      but what do you do when "feeling fine" is getting less and less and "not fine" is in control of the bpd shit show?

    • @alexismaceira4732
      @alexismaceira4732 Před 6 lety +18

      @@naturalselectioninterventi4805 I feel this! A lot of us if we seem like we think we're untreatable or hopeless it's cause everyone AROUND us seems to think that and it definitely wears on you! I know it will never go away but we can at least learn to feel worthy and a bit more secure. I think of it like arhtiritis or something, like we can't get rid of it but we can make it hurt a little less and learn how to manage it a little better so that we aren't always suffering. Don't give up on yourself. Hell, if anything just keep surviving purely to spite those who have wronged you lol

  • @DJPoundPuppy
    @DJPoundPuppy Před 6 lety +98

    Type 4 represent!!!
    "Find a support system". Been looking for 15 years, my guy!

  • @AMOEDEN888
    @AMOEDEN888 Před 6 lety +23

    I have expressed all subtypes at different times.
    In my defense , I was abandoned twice before age 2 , experienced every abuse imaginable including attempted murder twice and a victim of human trafficking at age 17 And I was born intersexed on top of it all .
    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy has helped me a lot .

  • @kiss4strawberry
    @kiss4strawberry Před 6 lety +135

    Finally someone mentions the other types (an actual psychologist!!!), enough with other CZcams know it alls who only talk about the most destructive type with disregard of the other types, thus creating a lot of misconception like they don't exist at all. Thank you Dr. Daniel Fox.

  • @fractally
    @fractally Před 5 lety +39

    I'm a bit petulant.
    But I direct it toward politicians and misbehaving corporations---I consider it a healthy outlet for my free-floating anger and irritability.

  • @lukas_6924
    @lukas_6924 Před 5 lety +15

    I'm mostly the self-destructive one. He is right about how people with BPD can be any of the four depending on the situation.
    When he said I had to find a social support system, I was like "oh damn it".
    I'm all alone and basically I'm able to survive thanks to my decision to isolate myself.

  • @christineferreira2965
    @christineferreira2965 Před 4 lety +2

    I found overlap with at least 3. I’m a mess. I’m on medication for depression, anxiety and bipolar. I’ve suffered from eating disorders, alcoholism and marijuana use. It may be legal in my state, but with BPD it can be abused such as alcohol. I have harmed myself, I have been hospitalized several times. And it’s like wtf I am now 42 and getting nowhere but more pain

  • @Tirryna
    @Tirryna Před 4 lety +17

    I was in DBT for 2 years, so I have coping habits, but sometimes, it takes energy to skill up. I was specifically dosed with Discouraging type. I do have like 1 or 2 traits of type 2, but I've always internalize most of my BPD...I don't like other people being mad at me, so I focus it on myself...

  • @judusmasamune9523
    @judusmasamune9523 Před rokem +2

    It’s weird how I felt I’m not petulant, but I definitely am haha . Mostly for me it’s
    The petulant , quiet , and self destructive

  • @Sadagainwbuuuu
    @Sadagainwbuuuu Před 6 lety +533

    im almost positive i have this illness, how do i bring it up to my doctor withouth making it sound like im diagnosing myself or anything bc im honestly not but i have lived my whole life thinking all of this was normal when i have been struggling for so long and was always just treated for major recurrent depression in the past :( bpd was never brought up until i got to my lowest about a month ago and started researching why i feel this way and realized it was bpd. i also found a screenshot of an online screening i took last year for bpd and i score over 90% likelihood of having it but i guess i just brushed it off i dont even remember. i feel so helpless, lost and empty.

    • @Sadagainwbuuuu
      @Sadagainwbuuuu Před 6 lety +47

      i meant my psychiatrist, i have been in therapy for years on and off in the past but i do and have been seeing a psychiatrist for my meds for ADHD, major depression and bulimia. but i feel like if i do have this disorder (because i havent been honest about alot of things in the past of i just covered it up and brushed it off and thought it was just depression) i was diagnosed as social anxiety as a kid and im sure i still have that as well. so i do seek mental health outpatient care buti just dont know how to bring it up to her without her thinking less of me. also thank you for responding, im having issues with insurance right now so i cant even really go make an appointment right now but i do have a checkup with my psychiatrist in april.

    • @Sadagainwbuuuu
      @Sadagainwbuuuu Před 6 lety +46

      also the stigma around this illness is so megative and brutal. my psychiatrist almost dropped me when i get out of the mental hospital bc i wasnt as honest with her but thats just because i was afraid, i dont show my feelings well sometimes especially to doctors.and a old best friend of mind got diagnosed with that and his psychiatrist dropped him aswell bc he was "helpless".. and me and him have been so close for so long and i swear we are like the same person its crazy.

    • @thuggins2086
      @thuggins2086 Před 6 lety +83

      Just go in and say that you've been doing a little research on the topic and that you'd like to get a professional opinion. That's what I did with my doctor when he diagnosed me with depression/anxiety; however, I'm about to do the same once I find a therapist because I honestly feel my depression/anxiety is a symptom given my other behaviours I exhibit on a nearly daily basis.
      Many medical professionals respect a patient who has done a little research and comes in with an idea of what they're wanting checked out without sounding like you know better than they do.

    • @apophyllite97
      @apophyllite97 Před 6 lety +41

      I don’t know how old you are, but I know most doctors/psychiatrists doesn’t want to diagnose anyone with bpd until you’re at least 18 (Norway). I didn’t get mine until I was 19, even tho they suspected the illness since I was 16.
      And I would definitely bring up the diagnosis when you talk to your psychiatrist, but don’t get to attached to the thought of having bpd. You should probably ask about being tested for multiple diagnosis at the same time. I’m not saying that you don’t have bpd, but I know I thought I had a lot of things before I got my final diagnosis. I wish you the best of luck, and I hope you get better!

    • @Sadagainwbuuuu
      @Sadagainwbuuuu Před 6 lety +15

      im 19, and unfortunately my psychiatrist dropped me so im stuck but hioefully maybe in the future i can get treatment. thank you tho!

  • @sugarplum316
    @sugarplum316 Před 3 lety +7

    I tell you, these CZcams videos have helped me more than “the system”. Our chapter of NAMI is a joke. I know they are volunteers but someone is getting paid to over see them and it’s more frustrating than helpful trying to get any help or useful information from them. I watch these videos daily and they give me useful information that is life changing and saving in my case of helping and dealing with my adult son. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for making these videos available for us!

  • @marjieun
    @marjieun Před 6 lety +39

    I have read or watched enough textbooks and articles to prove myself I'm not a borderline, but the I have all the criteria. I'm afraid to tell my parents about it. Because they might find me dramatic.

  • @leannmiller8358
    @leannmiller8358 Před 2 lety +1

    The discouraged/quiet BPD is the most accurate description of my personality I've ever heard 😳

  • @tristaballard5118
    @tristaballard5118 Před 6 lety +11

    Self destructive, quiet, impulsive, petulant....thanks for explaining these the way you did...

  • @natalieetched
    @natalieetched Před 4 lety +1

    I am mainly petulant and self destructive. I am very very indecisive and I end up hurting those around me because of it. It’s very hard to chose things for myself because there is the feeling of “I don’t trust myself” I constantly go to others for advice on what I should do because I’m so afraid of failure but it doesn’t matter what decision I pick I’m still unhappy about it. I’m very young to begin to understand and heal from borderline. I am intelligent and very full of potential but my own self gets in the way sometimes which I am working on daily. To anyone reading this please keep a journal everyday. It helps me keep my thoughts in check even though they contradict themselves. It can be good to recognize that change in thought and contradiction so you can make a clear decision and see the faults in your thought pattern.

  • @johnesco
    @johnesco Před 5 lety +20

    I was recently diagnosed with BPD. Drilling down into even more detail is hopefully going to help me more. Thanks for creating this video. Thanks even more for addressing us directly rather than a distant 3rd person reference only.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +7

      I believe respect is important and addressing people honestly and forthrightly is a critical part of that. Thanks for your comment.

  • @kr3642
    @kr3642 Před 3 lety +1

    I lost my mom to this disorder. She was one of the 10 or so percent that complete suicide. Very complicated woman. Absent & abusive or Helpful & Cool were the only two modes available. For a long time I thought she treated me badly because I was bad. But around 13 I realized how much pain she was in and that she simply didn't have the emotional room to be consistently decent to others. I became very protective of her. I would never recommend an untreated BPD having person to become a parent until they are ready to help themselves. I'm sure that will trigger some of you, but this is my very tough love approach to telling you that it is NOT OKAY to project your issues onto children so please avoid it. I loved my mom very much but she couldn't love me the way a child needs to be loved and it gave me complex PTSD.

  • @bellabear653
    @bellabear653 Před 4 lety +18

    Its great to finally see someone who is actually qualified to speak on these matters. I am enjoying watching these videos you have made. The content is indepth and easy to understand.

  • @tessjones5987
    @tessjones5987 Před 5 lety +1

    I got your BPD WorkBook .I would NOT have figured out my sub-type with out the workbook. Now it is so clear.
    So I came back to this video to get more information once I found my sub-type. LOVE THE BPD WORK-BOOK!!!
    Thank you does describe my gratefulness for the BPD Workbook. It is GROUND-BREAKING!

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +1

      +Tess Jones I’m so glad you like it. It means so much to me that it’s helpful for you. Be well.

  • @aliciaseptember
    @aliciaseptember Před 2 lety +4

    I was dating someone that I believe has bpd, subtype mainly self destructive mixed with impulsive. There was also substance abuse and hundreds of lies tied to that as well as other topics. His anger was like a light switch and sometimes it almost seemed like he hardly even knew what he was mad about. Or it was something relatively small that caused this intense rage. Once he hit this point, it was screaming, aggression, name calling, insults, and just straight hatred towards me. Later that day or next, when I calmly explained how things actually went down and how I felt-he was very remorseful and felt terrible. I think the genuine remorse was what made me hold on so long honestly. He didn’t get along with my friends and vise versa. Anytime we were out anywhere he felt like I didn’t pay attention to him, or would accuse me of I glanced in someone’s direction. I had some strained friend relationships due to them feeling like he mistreated me constantly. It was a miracle to have one day that we didn’t fight, but most times it was at least daily. The rage fits, the constant lies, the inability to see how it made me feel, the constant empty promises of changing with zero effort-I finally couldn’t handle it. It caused me, who came into the relationship very mentally healthy and never dealt with anxiety or depression, start to lose myself. I was moody, felt uneasy, untrusting, upset, sad, nervous for the next lie or fight. It truly was the hardest thing I’ve been thru. I tried relentlessly to help until I realized it was killing me in the process. I feel truly sad that he deals with this, but I also feel truly sad for those on my end as well. It was hell.

    • @lorenzrosenthal119
      @lorenzrosenthal119 Před rokem

      I have the sudden idea that maybe people who had a bpd ex should date

    • @benavidesruiz
      @benavidesruiz Před rokem

      I am feeling you have explained my past year. It was really impossible to handle and a real nightmare. When I left him I started healing. There was no hope.

  • @poisonedcupcake6860
    @poisonedcupcake6860 Před 4 lety +2

    Two years of group therapy DBT improved my situation ten fold. So thankful for kind professionals.

  • @afrodita2808
    @afrodita2808 Před 6 lety +40

    So... last night i found out i have BPD and my world seam to crumble all around me. I always knew i was different from my surroundings but i thought it was just my sacial personality. Your videos along with positive thinking and trusting gods plan helped me to get out from giving up on my life, cuse' whats the point, right? To a mode that things can get better if i just fight this, giving up is not a choice, not brave one. So if you are like me and you been throw hell in life and steel here to tell about it, you can get throw this, WE can get throw this. Thenk you dc fox.

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 Před 4 lety

      When you say you "found out" I assume you mean a medical professional diagnosed you as having BPD, and not "I watched a bunch of CZcams videos on BPD and diagnosed my self" yes?

    • @jenynz5334
      @jenynz5334 Před 3 lety

      @@johnroscoe2406 I was diagnosed in 2000. Retold I had it 8 years ago. But I "found out" I had it this year. I had to see it for myself before I could even start to really believe it. Denial is a heck of a thing.

    • @jenynz5334
      @jenynz5334 Před 3 lety

      I hope you are doing well, Sophia. I'm going to tackle mine with God's help, too. And the great resources available to us now. 💛 Be well, my friend!

  • @Slarti
    @Slarti Před 4 lety +2

    At the age of 49 after a life of difficulties I think I have at last come to the conclusion that I have BPD.
    As a male a lot of my behaviour has been seen as aggressive, touchy, exaggerating or "alienated" from my emotions but hearing a lot about BPD recently seems to make it clearer that this is what is going on with me.
    The biggest "aha" moment was when I read that people with BPD and depression will find their depression disappears as soon as the trigger for the depression disappears - which is exactly how I experience my depression.

  • @markwagstaff7603
    @markwagstaff7603 Před 6 lety +9

    Very helpful and very interesting. I have a close friend with bpd that uses me as support. Unbelievable events I have been put through to offer him support. This lecture has helped immensely. Thank you.

  • @courtneymaybe4224
    @courtneymaybe4224 Před 5 lety +1

    i’m not diagnosed but feel like i have fallen into the quiet and petulant subtypes for years and it’s getting so hard to deal with every day and it’s fucking up relationships i cannot lose so i’ve been researching bpd for hours each day recently to try to figure out what the fuck is wrong with me , i’m almost positive i have this disorder and this video really helped to narrow it down , but i have no idea how to get help because i’m too scared to talk to a doctor about it even though my family have tried to encourage me to. have no idea what to do but doing research and watching this video has made me feel slightly relieved that i may have figured out what could be wrong with me, but if i ever go to a professional and it somehow turns out i don’t have this i’m going to be completely lost because it’s the only disorder that explains everything.

  • @Starving_Phoenix
    @Starving_Phoenix Před 4 lety +3

    Just found your channel. Really nice to see a professional who actually knows something about my diagnosis and is empathetic to it talk about it for a change.

  • @xzavaierhawkins431
    @xzavaierhawkins431 Před rokem +1

    I’m glad you mentioned that they can overlap. Everything makes more sense now

  • @iloveyoohtaco
    @iloveyoohtaco Před 5 lety +10

    I almost feel like I cycle through all four. Though never all of the same symtoms! I tend to be very happy and energetic at my best, with bouts of mania often. High highs and low lows! Explosive anger, s/h, dependency, its all there. Brains are interesting!

  • @theaccursedj.e.2723
    @theaccursedj.e.2723 Před 4 lety +1

    All 4. Self destruction outweighs all. Thank you Dr. Fox for these videos.

  • @alexismaceira4732
    @alexismaceira4732 Před 6 lety +4

    This was really interesting andinformative. I am glad that you did this in a way that was empathetic and professional, and addressed us directly instead of making yet another video about how "terrible" and "hopeless" we are.

  • @arabellacox
    @arabellacox Před rokem +1

    Anyone reading this who doesn't have BPD must remember how we ended up with BPD. There is much talk about our behaviour which can lead to people thinking this is on-purpose, deliberate behaviour, but each and everyone of us have CPTSD from childhood abuse, trauma and neglect. We were subjected to horrific behaviour and events from our carers. We didn't ask to be born to incompetent adults and BPD is what is left from childhood - if you don't have BPD you can walk away, we don't have that option. So try to be compassionate, we live with a lifelong legacy of childhood trauma.

  • @xxxxOS
    @xxxxOS Před 6 lety +7

    Ive had all four at different stages in my life i was quiet between 9-15 then impulsive between 15-22 then self destructive between 22-25 now I'm alot more petulant and I'm 28..but now I've been diagnosed in hoping by 30 to have a handle on things. Seeing a psychologist who understands me has helped and now my family understand a little better but I still go between seeing them and isolating myself I'm agoraphobic right now because being outside triggers me to want to rush back into life and be like everyone else but I know I can't keep up and get overwhelmed with everyday life so until I can cope there's no point in relationships because they are my main trigger. I've got to the stage now where I can't watch tv, certain shows certain websites are a trigger. CZcams is a stressful one because I can choose what i want to watch but my recommend is out of my control and if theres q certain video with a certain title it can trigger me..and I end up watching it! Which triggers me off down a rabbit hole. My moods change minute to minute..I can be angry, upset, frustrated, judmental, empathetic, hopeful, laughing, excited all in the space of ten minutes at the most. It's exhausting. I'm physically drained by my emotions. My brain has shut off now I have so many thoughts all at once that my brain freezes like technology would. It's weird. No way to hold down a job when I'm like this..working was like torture being around people I dont particularly like causes my brain to blow up with judgment, mental arguments, disgust and frustration. My old boss knew I was sensitive and would push my bottons intentionally which is the worst thing you can do with someone with BPD because I couldn't control my reaction but being in a professional work environment ment all I could do was cry. By the time I came home I felt like id run a marathon, been hit by a bus and been through the most traumatic experience of ny life..everyday..id be physically sore from being so uptight and would be so mentality drained but couldnt switch off so id get little or no sleep then would have to do it all over again the next day. It took so much effort just to go to work and do a job that my home was a disaster I simply couldn't do both. My freetime would just be me worrying about going back. It's a truly awful disorder that has stolen 28 years of my life so far. All I want Is love and acceptance but it's impossible to achieve it when your mind works like ours do. :/ I have hope for my 30s but it's hard to believe I can change my patterns. We will see. I'm looking forward to group therapy to meet other people like myself. I hope if anyone reads this you get the help you need too. Don't let this disorder take your life. You only get one go at it. 👊🌸

    • @gaiasaskia9047
      @gaiasaskia9047 Před 6 lety

      Jen Dark Energy 384400 This is sooooo me!! I can't even work because of it and I'm a great hairdresser and was hoping to start a Karaoke business also but I am not getting the right help at all. It's like psychiatry are afraid to go near me because no meds or therapy is working!! It's maddening xxx

  • @TheMostAwesomeMan2424
    @TheMostAwesomeMan2424 Před 5 lety +6

    The discouraged/ quiet type sounds like me since I’m mostly quiet!

  • @creature_skin
    @creature_skin Před 6 lety +35

    Self destructive sounds most like me. I only just turned 18 so I'm not diagnosed, although I do have emotional dysregulation and have been flagged up for bpd, with a long and complex history of self mutilation. Hopefully I'll be able to get a more solid idea of what my problems are soon, and I can get some real treatment. I don't want to be like this forever.

    • @helenam00n
      @helenam00n Před 6 lety +3

      as a young woman who just went through a lot of serious issues, some as a result of my mental illness, i highly encourage you to be an active part of your treatment. i was about 17 when i was first hospitalized and now, 7 years later, i am serious about my treatment. it has taken a lot of bs and trauma to get here, and finding the right social supports and professional support can be really difficult, also playing the med game is just as hard. i know how painful it feels for you right now. i wish you all the best in your mental health journey and always remember, you're never alone.

    • @claudiologreco7981
      @claudiologreco7981 Před 6 lety

      i think i'm also a self destructive.....i'm a guy 23 years old and i since i'm a child i got a difficoult charackter but no one did diagnozide mental illnes also because i was having a lot of good quality, everyway i started to use drugs at 14 years old and surely the abuse got my light illnes worster. The dipendence of heroine and cocaine with my incredible impulsivity bring me to do crimes and to sell my body, i suffered also sexual violence. This trauma and a lot of other big problem in my family got me so depressed and so i started make self mutilation because i hate what i become. Now since my dad is death i'm always scare to get to be completely alone in my life so i decided to go to a psychiatrenr ì, who diagnozyde BPD, but despite he try to help mwe, the therapies didn't improve enought my illnes because now is too late for me.
      This is my sad but true story and i hope that can incourage a lot of people to ask help and to do a serious therapie to lern to manage his own life.
      Good luck

    • @AMOEDEN888
      @AMOEDEN888 Před 6 lety +1

      I can say it can get better if you choose to be mindful .
      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy has helped me a lot.
      I just passed 4 years now of no self harming even when I felt tempted to repeat old coping mechanisms .
      I can so empathize with you cause I've been there , and if there's only one thing to remember is You Are Worthy and you can love yourself again . It takes time and patience but it is worth it as you are .
      Angel hugs n Blessings to you

    • @hadleybee9710
      @hadleybee9710 Před 4 lety +1

      Leah Kelly it's kind of a simple tool to add to the mix but if you take steady steps to SHOW self care as,if caring for a dependent child because you actually need You To show up for you very much.
      When you do show up you will feel so much better so rewarding to discover that ability to protect and care for your own person because YOU ARE SO PRECIOUS and you have an important contribution in this world.
      God Loves you and your friends here are rooting for you to take steps toward self care as an alternative to harm. It's a choice that rewards you with positive outcome even if it feels counterintuitive.

    • @bobbie4541
      @bobbie4541 Před 4 lety

      @@claudiologreco7981 It's never too late for you. No matter what you did or what you've been through. I've heard once the further down we've gone the higher up we can go! I'm praying for you! Ask Jesus to come into your life. He will forgive and show you the way. I pray that you are one of the lucky ones and get miraculous healing.

  • @jenrichardson1941
    @jenrichardson1941 Před 3 lety +1

    I have quiet bpd, I was on the hunt for knowledge about myself years back and knew I had found my problem when I read on bpd. That. Was. It. And listening to this guy? So validating on the differences I feel. Definitely a quiet bpd, don't want to have it, would love to be more confrontational and less scared everyone will leave if I do.

  • @CECItheMATOS
    @CECItheMATOS Před 4 lety +7

    I was just diagnosed with BDP and I guess I’ve been in denial? I had this one view of borderline as something that makes people simply react in the moment with their emotions, and I usually keep my overreactions to myself. Now watching this video I see I am more of a self destructive bp. I can also be discouraged at times.
    I could not accept my diagnosis because of that. Like, I would never yell at my classmates, for example. But after having even small conflicts with them I run to the bathroom and I’ll even skip classes because I cannot stop crying in there.

    • @AmberWoodMusicx
      @AmberWoodMusicx Před 3 lety +3

      I cry when angry and ppl assume I’m upset but I’m shaking with rage and it wasn’t until someone diagnosed me that I can now stop wondering what’s going on and it’s a pretty good feeling

  • @davidenglish4509
    @davidenglish4509 Před 3 lety +1

    I think that I’ve been in a relationship with a woman who has BPD for 17 years and I love her with all my heart - I just don’t know how to see her get the help that she needs. Her family has manipulated her through shame all her life.

  • @brittany5019
    @brittany5019 Před 6 lety +109

    JESUS TAKE THA WHEEL!!
    I'm all 4 :0

  • @missymarie708
    @missymarie708 Před 3 lety +1

    I think I'm deffinently more quiet bpd with a overlap with all 4, plus having c-ptsd and anxiety disorders on top. I think I going to be one tough patient to work with or cure. But I really extremely want the help. Because I don't want to be like this. I'm tired of hurting the ones I love :( and that I have 0 control over my actions and emotions at the time. I want to be stable. And feel safe and secure. And confident. And I want my relationships to be stable and secure.

  • @fezprezly6955
    @fezprezly6955 Před 5 lety +4

    I'm greatful for the time it must take to make these. I'm currently in-diagnosed but after suffering my entire life ie...(prison, state hospitals and countless court appointed therapests , and a long trail of wreckage later) there is no way I'm not BPD I'm am 46 and survivor of profound childhood trauma. I was blown away when I stumbled on the CPTSD subject which led mt to BPD and it just clicked. I'm at al loss as to what my point is ....I have a tone of life skills and hard won wisdom...so I keep on with a positive course...id love to know more about my self but its a scary place sometimes....please keep em comming. And thank you.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +2

      Thank you for the comment and stay the course on managing moods, building insight, and helping yourself achieve the best you can. Be well.

  • @JESTER11X
    @JESTER11X Před 4 lety +2

    This video actually gives me hope for actually finding wtf is wrong with me. All my life I've been so different from everyone around me, so after being diagnosed with gen anxiety disorder from a very young age, I scour the internet and libraries about other disorders, about anything I could learn about mental illnesses.
    I went through thinking I was simply 'different' with major depression (still up for debate), thinking I was possibly autistic, bipolar, schizophrenic ffs. then I finally find out about BPD through a youtuber saying she had it and describing it, actually didn't think it really described me very well. Then CZcams decided to shower me in bpd videos, I watch them, and holy fuck. Almost everything describes me to a T. Even the things I didn't even have the words to describe because I hadn't come across them in my other findings. Made other things about me make absolute complete sense.
    Only thing discouraging me was the explosive anger. Sure I get uncontrollably angry, but I never let it out. I dont know if that me bullying all my emotions down or due to an explosive abusive mother (that I'm starting to wonder if that bipolar diagnosis could have been bpd as well) but seeing type 1, gives me hope.
    I plan once quarantine is over to finally talk to my doctor. Cause for once I'm actually confident this is what's up.
    Thank you to anyone who actually read that brick wall of text, I know it has nothing meaningful or of worth to say but it does feel good to get this off my chest to somewhere that isnt my own thoughts.

  • @justins1117
    @justins1117 Před 6 lety +3

    If only I had watched this at the beginning of year. I'd still probably be engaged.... Thank you Doctor for making this video.

  • @lovorka3321
    @lovorka3321 Před 4 lety +1

    Petulant here ;) my ex was impulsive plus narcissistic, bastard still harassing me with messages even evontho he killed our unborn child. After he rejected his child and left me pregnant I told myself it's over. Watch out for narcissists especially covert!!

  • @stinawatson6327
    @stinawatson6327 Před 6 lety +33

    This was very informative. I'd love to see videos on Avoidant Personality Disorder whenever you have the time =)

  • @pathannan8265
    @pathannan8265 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm 43 and I feel I have all traits odmf all types apart from following the crowd, I spend 24hrs a day 7 days a week alone, it sucks I'm bascicly am totally alone I have a mum dad and sister and that is it I feel soo out of place in this world

  • @carolinabraidybird1929
    @carolinabraidybird1929 Před 6 lety +51

    Petulant. Yep 🙁

    • @stephaniemccord8677
      @stephaniemccord8677 Před 6 lety +6

      Carolina Braidy Bird its like a hurricane and volcano in our brain.

    • @carolinabraidybird1929
      @carolinabraidybird1929 Před 6 lety +1

      stephanie mccord it’s certainly not an easy ride x

    • @JMV1616
      @JMV1616 Před 5 lety +1

      Ditto. Not even a blip from the other 3. I’m 100% petulant

  • @Joy_esprida
    @Joy_esprida Před 4 lety

    Im the self destructive BPD type and it sucks ass. I've lived with suicidal ideation for almost 16/17 years. 4 hospitalizations with the last attempt putting me in the hospital on machines for 10 days. I haven't had an attempt since then in 2018. I'm very proud of myself and mad at the same time for not seeking treatment on BPD. I was diagnosed bipolar 2 and BPD in 2014 but after a drug psychosis and focused solely on treating bipolar 2..I got rediagnosed recently and I exhibited all symptoms of BPD. Your channel has helped me become more aware of my behavior than my own therapist. Thank you for your service.

  • @AxesBeLike
    @AxesBeLike Před 6 lety +4

    I was diagnosed with BPD last year in April, this video was very helpful! Thank you ~

  • @robincrowflies
    @robincrowflies Před 3 lety

    As others have pointed out, and the video points out, all four types come out at different times, depending on context. I'm undiagnosed...or rather, self-diagnosed...and been living with this condition for over 40 years.

  • @juneytoolooney2165
    @juneytoolooney2165 Před 6 lety +45

    I'd say that im mostly impulsive, my brain has so many doors and voices i just follow them. I also fit in with the petulant one. I havent cut in 2 months, but when i do i treat the blade like its my only friend. Cutting n cutting in a rage with a smile on my face. But later when everything settles and its just me, not the disorder. I feel so upset and dissappointed in myself. My left forearm is so scarred i always get the looks but yet i dont hide it. Bcuz to do that, then i would be hiding all that is me... I love myself bcuz i am amazing, but the darkness that my mind can spawn is something that else. I split alot so i actually appreciate the darkness alot. But without light i am consumed. I am done now, i just wanted to express myself even if i said nothing lol... Enjoy ur day doc

    • @stephaniemccord8677
      @stephaniemccord8677 Před 6 lety

      JuneyTooLooney 216 do u read langston Hughes?

    • @juneytoolooney2165
      @juneytoolooney2165 Před 6 lety

      stephanie mccord yea abit when i was in school... Why do u ask?

    • @stephaniemccord8677
      @stephaniemccord8677 Před 6 lety

      JuneyTooLooney 216 my bad, your name June to Looney reminded me of a poem I read in high school which was a long time ago now but it's not poet Langston Hughes I apologize

    • @stephaniemccord8677
      @stephaniemccord8677 Před 6 lety

      JuneyTooLooney 216 the poem that it reminds me of a poem called "we real cool" and there is a line about 'we Jazz June, we die soon.' But Hughes "Harlem- a dream deferred" is very powerful, just like u.

    • @juneytoolooney2165
      @juneytoolooney2165 Před 6 lety

      stephanie mccord i looked it up, its a lady named Gwendolyn that wrote it. When i saw "june & die soon" i had to see what u speaking of smh. But is the last thing, the "youre powerful" part from the poem?

  • @charleebrown6406
    @charleebrown6406 Před 5 lety +1

    I was diagnosed with blpd but it's just a diagnosis, labels are for teddy bears, yes it's had a huge impact on my life with many attempts on it.
    Now I live off grid living on a boat away from society and the system.
    Thankyou for your non judgemental view on blpd.

  • @bethanyrose8956
    @bethanyrose8956 Před 5 lety +8

    Thanks, I have been diagnosed with borderline and definitely am more of some sub types than others but show symptoms of each, depending on the trigger, situation or type of mode I need.

  • @supermodelatlanta1354
    @supermodelatlanta1354 Před 4 lety +2

    for the first time i realized that im really not ok. it hurt so bad this video made me cry. bc i could never say wht was wrong. nor have i ever heard this on a treatment level. thank you Mr.

  • @ladyd6222
    @ladyd6222 Před 6 lety +4

    I was recently diagnosed, this really helps! Wish I could work with you 😢

  • @courtneyquiles5884
    @courtneyquiles5884 Před 4 lety +3

    I want you to know you are a blessing, i commented on another video and i do not want to be a broken record.... BUT THANK YOU!!!

  • @mayjeganmogan4514
    @mayjeganmogan4514 Před 4 lety +16

    being mostly impulsive is kinda hard cuz u crash from this high :(

    • @AmberWoodMusicx
      @AmberWoodMusicx Před 3 lety +1

      I hate those crashes :( I generally am impulsive when upset or massively angry but I guess even when happy too. It’s so tiring

  • @cherrymcgillicuddy6300
    @cherrymcgillicuddy6300 Před 5 lety +1

    I can definitely see where I have been in all 4 categories. I am so glad I am working with a therapist on this disorder. I can also see where I have improved.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 lety +1

      +Cherry McGillicuddy that’s terrific. Keep it up!!!

  • @depthofechoespodcast9423
    @depthofechoespodcast9423 Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you so much for your videos! They are super helpful and you clearly care about your patients and their wellbeing.

  • @theebronks
    @theebronks Před 4 lety +1

    I wasn't able to get much help after being diagnosed so your videos are invaluable for helping with self understanding

  • @Hybr1dK1dz
    @Hybr1dK1dz Před 6 lety +21

    I believe my bpd ex gf had pieces of all four subtypes but would best fit into the quiet subtype

    • @Darklustmoonchild
      @Darklustmoonchild Před 6 lety +14

      TheLance3185 Awesome. Thanks for making the stigma worse for us

  • @themaggattack
    @themaggattack Před 5 lety

    "Assertiveness and restraint". Oh what a challenging balance!
    "Don't stuff it, express it appropriately". Oh lawdy, that ain't as easy as it may seem.
    Thank you for pin-pointing these specifics and offering steps to deal with them.
    1. Stop.
    2. Be mindful.
    3. Make a positive decision.
    (Find a support circle of individuals who can help you figure out the right decision. Like a Therapy group, if your friends and family aren't so helpful.)
    4. THEN engage.
    In theory it all sounds great. But when you have trust issues it gets a lot trickier. 😞

  • @pikkallo6013
    @pikkallo6013 Před 5 lety +9

    I feel like all these types bleed into eachother, i have traits of each one of these to different degrees

  • @Vercanya
    @Vercanya Před rokem

    When you describe the way a petulant bpd sits... That's exactly how my grandma was. I always hoped she would have looked for help for her trauma (which she spoke of on occasion).

  • @michellelcinkel4380
    @michellelcinkel4380 Před 6 lety +10

    I only wanted to hurt myself when extreme things happened to me . I've self harmed st the age of 25 and I've had suicide thoughts of just driving my car in to tgat tree or off a cliff I blow up over the dog pound being called on my pets . And I. Lund careless if police show up ! Now I no what my problem has been since I was little girl oh and my mother was in. Car accident when I was three I went through wind shield I have frontal lobe damage my parents were young and dad wS un able to control anger he hurt me as a child I'm 56 and I want help I'm tired of relapse as I call it or having to press the reset button fir my family

  • @justrandom8766
    @justrandom8766 Před 6 lety

    I wish i could get a BPD diagnosis but the waiting list to see a phychatrist is so long and takes years to see someone. I struggle every day with it. These videos really help

  • @Anabel002
    @Anabel002 Před 4 lety +4

    I'm 1, 2 and 4 (except I dont do wreckless danger stuff to others, I just burn a lot of social bridges instead

  • @ElaineChow
    @ElaineChow Před 5 lety +1

    I’ve only been diagnosed with BPD outside of the US, but I relate to so much of what you say in all your BPD videos. I’m only being treated for MDD now. I think I relate to being a little of all of the sub-types, mostly 1, 2 and 4.

  • @danitotd
    @danitotd Před 4 lety +3

    Please, could you do something about the discriminatory comments from people who claim that all people with BPD are abusers? It’s hurtful and perpetuates dangerous stereotypes. Thank you.

    • @freeyourdreama7822
      @freeyourdreama7822 Před 2 lety

      I’d maybe evaluate this - I do not think I saying they are abusive is creating dangerous stereotype. This disorder is rooted in abusive behaviors towards the self and others in emotional mental and sometimes physical ways. The type of self regulation and control needed to control that is usually not there before therapy and so of course there is the other side - those who are partners family and caretakers for those with bpd - Of course it feels horrible to understand this aspect of the illness and many people with BPD feel terrible about their actions after, but it is not helpful to pretend like it is not an issue. One of the common characteristics is self harm which is abuse. That is abuse to self. And of course the interactions that happen with others during these episodes well it is abusive because it is very hard and very traumatizing to go through an episode with someone with this disorder depending on how it plays out particularly if they are not in treatment or aware of it. Can literally get PTSD from it.

    • @danitotd
      @danitotd Před 2 lety +1

      @@freeyourdreama7822 I’m so sorry you have experienced that. I have BPD (and PTSD as well) but I’m also the daughter of a woman with BPD. I know how hard it can get. I sincerely hope you get the assistance you deserve. ♥️
      Having said that, it’s a mistake to try to fit every person with BPD into the same box. We are extremely different and posses diverse mechanisms that can be there even before therapy.
      Abusive behavior is not caused by BPD. The impulsivity from BPD can enhance abusive behaviors that were already learned and internalized. Abusive behavior develops from many sources and it’s influenced by multiple factors that are unique to every individual. So we can’t tell that people with BPD are abusers.
      What we can tell is that this stereotype harms people with BPD (who, in almost all cases, were victims of chronic abuse since early childhood). We already feel awful and guilty all the time (even for things we had nothing to do about). A lot of us channel our strong emotions through self harm. And, trust me, most of us don’t do it to manipulate others. We do it because we genuinely believe we are a burden and that everyone else would be better off if we didn’t exist. I know for sure I would have preferred to never exist in the first place…
      The stereotype that we are inherently abusers strengthens the believe that we are a burden. Hence, it increases the risk of self destructive behavior, including the end of one’s life. That’s why the number of suicides among people with BPD is skyrocket.
      This stereotype is even perpetrated by health professionals as well!! I’m a psychologist and, even though I specialize on project evaluation, I’ve heard stereotypes from many of my clinical peers that impact the kind of treatment they give to their patients with BPD. And that harms people with borderline personality disorder AND their families/partners.
      So, as I was saying, this stereotype is extremely harmful and dangerous. Please, don’t spread it. Of course, that doesn’t mean we invalidate the experience of victims of an abuser who has BPD. That is something that we have to intervene as well. But, if we maintain that erroneous stereotype, we won’t be able to do it correctly either.

  • @vertoatrum
    @vertoatrum Před 5 lety

    My boyfriend is definitely a petulant sub type. Your description fit him perfectly. He wants to help himself to control his symptoms, he goes through a lot of mental struggle every day.

  • @3anastasia17
    @3anastasia17 Před 6 lety +3

    I have seen all 4 IDs at different times in my life

  • @apophyllite97
    @apophyllite97 Před 6 lety +1

    I’m diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and both me and my psychologist believe I’m mostly the self-destructive type. At the same time I am very impulsive with my self-destruction and my worst self-harming have always been an impulse. I’m not a quiet person thought, but I am very discouraged and extremely self aware at all times. I don’t see myself as a petulant person, but I can get extreme reactions from small things and not react at all to things that’s pretty bad. Borderline is such a complicated thing, ugh

  • @bethanyrose8956
    @bethanyrose8956 Před 5 lety +4

    P.S you are very calming and trustworthy for someone with BPD 😀

  • @MelissaMellyMelRoberge

    I really like this post & comments. I felt like most could have been written by me.
    My half-sister said it best, re: family acknowledgement of their part in my dx of BPD: your waiting for a validating apology that will never come from your Mom & our Dad. Both parents have told me I’m “too much.” The gaslighting on childhood abuse drives me insane at times which leads to such painful feelings of my perceived inadequacies. My Mom & I do not speak going on 3-years now.
    I have traits of all 4 types of BPD. I am the great chameleon who walks on eggshells. I bend myself around others moods & personalities to avoid conflict because I don’t know if I will implode or explode. I’m the deer in the headlights, frozen w/ indecision, plagues me. I try to keep my Independence and avoid needing anyone significant so no one can abandon me again is no way to live. I’m constantly pissed about injustices I feel have happened to myself or others so much that I have been told I carry a soapbox w/ me. My paranoia about how others regard me. I am constantly scanning their tone, intentions, body language and choice of verbiage for clues. My sisters call this my Sheldon-ing.
    If I had one wish in this world, it would be find therapy somewhere around Austin. But w/out serious $$$$ that is a pipe dream. When I hear wealthy people complain about their mental health issues all I can think of is “at least you can afford to get treatment & meds. Quit your bitching.”
    One odd thing, for me, is I can easily be the biggest personality in the room; gregarious, friendly, outgoing, people person, public speaker. On the other hand, I can be the most paralyzed fearful person in the room of a new situation/job where I am unsure what exactly is expected of me. People who know me don’t get it. I can’t seem to understand it either. How can I be both?
    Somedays, I have hope. On other days I can barely leave my closet or the box in my brain. I know there is no cure for my dx, but I sure wish there was more help.

  • @sunshineyrainbows13
    @sunshineyrainbows13 Před 5 lety +5

    My psychiatrist won't diagnose me with Quiet BPD because she doesn't think its a real thing, lol. But I know 98.9% I have it.

  • @hairygooch9854
    @hairygooch9854 Před 3 lety +1

    For the petulant I'd recommend using the term "shut down " i.e. I tend to " shut down " in certain situations

  • @ofwhatcreed
    @ofwhatcreed Před 6 lety +4

    As a clinician myself, I am curious on your thoughts on how ofter BPD/Bi-polar dx are placed on woman who may be actually suffering from PMDD? I started doing this research when I was working mostly in CMH and notice some major 'flaws' with that network of dx and 'services'. I have been trained in DBT, and at the time where it's 'creator' came out as being bi-polar; which naturally caused several of us to start taking a new look at certain things. I have years of research, but I am slowed down now due to post concussion syndrome; I just wish it would become more a topic of discussion.

    • @freeyourdreama7822
      @freeyourdreama7822 Před 2 lety

      What is PMDD

    • @ange7422
      @ange7422 Před rokem

      I think the BPD and pmdd can go hand in hand. He did a video on the comorbidity between BPD and pcos. I think that lifelong chronic stress can throw your hormones out of whack. High cortisol. Your body takes from other hormones to produce cortisol. I think it can start a hormonal cascade.

  • @jadziamerryweather77888

    I currently identify as quiet/self-destructive. I huess Ive had thia aonce childhood, but just found out. I have 3 support people. I'm working on assertiveness, boundaries, compassion, mindfulness, acceptance, and self identity exercises. I'm going to try to find a peer support group. My program is over this week and I'm a little nervous to deal on my own, but channels like yours help me feel less alone. Thank you!

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem

      Thank you for your comment and I wish you well.

  • @mares3841
    @mares3841 Před 6 lety +8

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!

  • @flintcountytomarkarth786
    @flintcountytomarkarth786 Před 6 lety +1

    Optional read if you will. In short, I was diagnosed several years back (29 now), with these symtoms dominating my life since I can remember. I basically spilled my guts at the consultant from childhood to now, what's changed, what remains a core factor. The "Quiet" subtype with some self-destructive (inward, rather than putting others at risk) are the most accurate. Having that diagnosis & being told "I have X disorder" was less about being pigeon holed, and more about knowing that it's by far from anything unusual, and that there is light at the other end, although what kind of light is up for debate. I'm just grateful my mother is understanding of this, and she's been my only constant since adoption. It's because of her I keep going.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 6 lety

      What a wonderful thing to share, thank you and kudos to your mom!!

  • @Sentay0
    @Sentay0 Před 6 lety +12

    Are there any medications (prescriptions or supplements) that could aid in reducing this kind of impulsive / depressive tendencies. I've had no luck with antidepressants but mood stabilizers (magnesium primarily) have helped a lot

    • @chanellee9762
      @chanellee9762 Před 4 lety

      well, I was given blood pressure medication (propranolol) and xanax for anxiety/social anxiety but I find that the combination is also just good for chilling out my intensity and paranoia. For example, in my natural state, there are certain people or personality types that I may find threatening to me by making these perceived slights and micro aggressions towards me. Then I take that prescription combo and the same people suddenly become nice people who aren't out to get me at all and I realize just how my thoughts about people can be completely inaccurate and distorted when under no medication.

    • @maureenwilson4949
      @maureenwilson4949 Před 4 lety

      I'm not a doctor but lamotragine is supposed to be good. I take Topiramate myself

    • @AmberWoodMusicx
      @AmberWoodMusicx Před 3 lety

      @@maureenwilson4949 yes I can back up Topiramate as a good mood stabiliser even though it’s an anticonvulsant med, sometimes SSRIs and other mood stabilisers primarily for BPD. Sometimes antipsychotics can help but I’ve personally had awful reactions to them tho I’m sensitive.

  • @Fa5_4_lyfe
    @Fa5_4_lyfe Před 4 lety

    My mind is definitely set to overcome this when I found out I honestly wanted to cry out of happiness because my whole life I was in the dark

  • @HorkPorkler
    @HorkPorkler Před 6 lety +3

    I fluctuate between these subtypes hourly. It’s even hard to say which of these types I experience more. It’s certainly not exclusively one. Although you did mention the overlap; this video is clearly misleading as evident in the comment section.

    • @kyuubipie8279
      @kyuubipie8279 Před 6 lety

      Hork Porkler me too! I’ve also noticed in different life stages one subtype will be more prominent depending on circumstances for sure.

  • @alf21124
    @alf21124 Před 5 lety

    I was diagnosed in 2012, I'm all four of these, not one at any given time but all four of these all the time.

  • @fishstix1900
    @fishstix1900 Před 4 lety +4

    I’m a male, over the course of my life I’ve been diagnosed with anxiety disorders, major depressive disorder. Anti- social personality disorder and Narcissistic personality disorder. This looks bad, I can assure you I’m not crazy, but my point is would it be possible for BPD to get confused with these other conditions? It’s seems to me to fit so much more, I’ve had situations of anti-social behavior but I wouldn’t say it’s a personality characteristic. I’m not sure how much it matters to separate them, but a few of the things you described are so descriptive of me it’s weird.

    • @hollyhart6270
      @hollyhart6270 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes I am seriously having the same exact issue!!! I just heard of bpd a couple weeks ago, go watch the traits of bpd from med circle, it’s soul lifting how accurate this is for me, it might open your eyes as well!! :)

    • @bananian
      @bananian Před 4 lety

      Yeah, might be gender bias.

  • @randizzle7659
    @randizzle7659 Před 4 lety

    Just now out of a 10 year relationship with a woman who was Cluster Type B. Most of these fit into her, especially hitting herself and impulsive behavior like sex, drugs and drinking. It was torture. Thank you for helping me to understand it all.