How To Filter Beer at Home - Or Not?
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2019
- How To Filter Beer - or not?
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Trying to filter beer at home for the first time. Filtering beer after fermentation from the Fermentasaurus to a Cornelius keg. But the same filtering process would also be from keg to keg. So even if you don't have a Fermentasaurus or any other conical fermenter. You can just think of this method going from keg to keg. If you are a bit careful, I bet you could even use this same filtering method filtering your homebrewed beer from example a bucket to a keg. As this was my first time filtering homebrewed beer at home, I didn't do it with carbonated beer. But still using closed transfer and Co2.
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Have you tried Clarity Ferm?
@@morse2279 Once, didn't really notice much difference. If I want clear beer fast I use gelatine. None of those options where available for thos brew though. As I mentioned in the video.
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I stopped using Gelatin when I started with Clarity Ferm, but I mostly use a very flocculent yeast, so the Beer is crystal in a week.
Yeah the Purity Laws are awkward, wasnt sure if an Enzyme would sneak past as lactic bacteria does.
1 micron to remove yeast .4 micron to sterilize
Needs a 1 micron filter my man, cheers for the great content, though can strip a lot of flavour so you may have to adjust recipe for that.
Wish I could filter! That looks so cool! Would want to filter just for the aesthetic and make the people in my life who are fans of big commercial beer happier with the look
Greatings from Germany - thanks for the great content, by the way, a non-filtered Kölsch is a Wiess 😜
Thanks, I didn't know that
Nice one Dr, interesting that you preferred the filtered one. Would be good to see what happens on something like an APA.
If you're not filtering your beer, you're filtering your beer.
You lost me mate
@DrHansBrewery If you don't filter it before you drink it, your body will filter it for you.
@@retheisen yes of course, got it. Cheers
Tried filtering and gelatin years ago. just once. Now I just lager it very cold for a couple of weeks. Cheers
Old Norse brewery Gelatine I use sometimes. But as I was going for a beer brewed acourding to the German purity laws, it wasn’t an option this time.
Interesting one doc and you'll have to redo it with a finer filter! 😉 I also think the carbonation levels played in when it came to the different tastes of the two beers. Anyway, thank you for trying this out! Cheers! 😛👍🍺
Thanks buddy! I think it played in a bit. But the difference was huge.
I will do it!
Try diatomaceous earth filter, used to work in a winery,that’s what we used to “polish” the wine
@@thekillerorc7824 thanks for the tip
Liked the video. If you use a filter I had read you must adjust the recipe to pull the flavors back up after the filtration. Have you read anything about how to make the adjustment? Guess it will depend on the style of beer. Was your ABV the same on both? I would think the filter would have no effect.
If you filter then it's Light Beer now! 😂🤪🍻✌🏽
Try a 1 micron filter, transfer at 3 psi, transfer from your source to a lower receiving vessel (liquid is heavier than gas), and hold the filter body upside down to save losing too much beer. I watch this video just after filtering my latest Kolsch from a hazy to crystal clear in one pass theu the filter. I only filter if NOT lagering. Anyone else agree?
Thanks Brother
Thanks Bro!
I have used a Vin Bon wine filter and it did work fine. I just use gelatin and let it age and clear.
By the way, your English is fine.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks, actually made a lot of progress with my English doing this videos I think. Cheers
Ma scusa, perché nel link che proponi il filtro è differente da quello che usi?
great video. question. how did you purge the oxigen from te filter and canister?
Thanks, you fill it up with sanitizer and push it out using co2. So co2 replaces the space the sanitizer took.
I also felt like too much statsan got stuck in the filter as well, that I would take boiling distilled water to rinse after sanitizing.
You had to inflate the bladder, because it deflated. Inflate is increase, deflate is reduce.
Thanks
I had a plate filter, but never use it. It’s too much of a pain- there’s always something leaking, or foam, or flow will stop. If I need a clear beer I’ll use bio fine liquid and cold crash.
Did you flush out the air from the filter before you started filtering Hans? Cause my first reaction was that you didnt. And also as already mentioned. You need at least 1 micron or below to get rid of yeast and chillhaze
Yes everything was filled up with sanitizing solution and pushed out with co2. I'm very anal about that. Next time I will go for a 1micron filter. Cheers!
kul video, har testat detta med gott resultat... men din co2 flaska, den ska väl inte ligga ner när den är öppen? ;)
Tack! Vad hade du för filter? Så är det väl på pappret, men med det sagt så har jag aldrig haft några problem med att lägga den ner.
@@DrHansBrewery Kommer inte ihåg hur många micron, men inköpt på jula.. var en sådan blå "kassett"
Ted Elmenheim tack!
Is it possible that the higher carbonation level in the filtered one is responsible for the more crisp flavor sensation when drinking it? Maybe you could either raise the carbonation level of the unfiltered beer or check the pH of the two beers to see if one is more acidic than the other. I've noticed a big difference in the perception of my american wheat beers since I started carbonating a bit higher than I used to.
A bit might come from that yes. But not all. There different flavors also.
What size filter did you use go to a 1 micron and go slow.
It was a 10 micron
Can you filter the yeast Whit this 5micron filter? Thanks
Needs to be more fine. I will try a 1micron next time.
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Agree with other posters - I am surprised you get sediment with the fermentasaurus pressure kit - I thought the float would keep you from dragging lots of sediment - at least until you hit the bottom of the fermenter? I have heard this method works best with a simple 1 micron stainless sieve - not the fabric filter - because it strips flavor. (Which you confirmed.) Cheers!
Yes it does. But the amount depends on the yeasts floculation and the time.
Very interesting difference on the two beers. The filtered one is a perfect Kölsch though. I will try a 1micron also. Can you link to a filter you reccomend.
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You can inflate or deflate something like a tyre. An explosion, or the opposite implosion, is catastrophic and not reversible.
Thanks. Deflate was the word I was looking for. Cheers!
not always catastrophic, and not always irreversible.
Great video as usual Doc , you don’t half put some effort into your videos, I am highly impressed with your work.
On another note have you ever brewed a Kottbusser? My mates in Cape Town have just brewed one so I fancied a go even though I have never heard of this old style before.
They say you put honey and molasses in it.
I am looking for recipes for one on the internet, but will brew it when the weather is colder here, maybe October.
Cheers Doc👍👍👍
Thanks for noticing and letting me know. I try to make good content.
I've never heard of it- Looking forward to your video. Cheers!
DrHans Brewery apparantly it’s an old style Wheat beer which was one of the first to fall foul of the reinheitsgebot. ( My mate told me this as I don’t have a clue🤪)
I think it’s because it contains ingredients that shouldn’t be there under the German purity rules.
I like the sound of it though so will have a go as I like wheat and pilsner type beers.
Do you have a link where to purchase the kolsch style glassware?
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Also put the link in the description. A real Stange is a must for Kölsch. Especially after being to Cologne!
DrHans Brewery Thanks for the link! I just kegged a kolsch style.... 👌
@@kennygraley824 awesome, soon you can drink it in a real glass!
What mitigations can we do to avoid beer foam?
No1 equal pressure
No2 temperature
No3 speed
How much pressure does enough for filtering? 30 psi? 50 psi?
Not much at all, just crank it up and read the flow.
@@DrHansBrewery thanks for answering to my. I dont have fermzilla and I'm makin beer in bucket. I have filter and a 100 psi ,diaphragm pump. (around 7atm) pump. But I don't know is it enough or not. Couple days later I will found out 😃
I wonder how often the filter would have to be replaced or cleaned? Because I have a daisy chain of four 19l kegs and two 12l kegs and I think it could be cool to have a filter in that chain, but it depends entirely on how much hassle it would be. Any ideas?
Dont now really, Iactually havent tried this more than once.
It’s most likely protein revival had you used it straight away and not waited 24 hours I think it would’ve been very clear but sitting in the canister and carbonated revived the protein. 👍🏻
Kan vara köldgrumling som gör att det inte såg ut att vara filtrerat. Jag gissar bara. Kör du med 1mikron så blir det ännu större skillnad då du filtrerar bort ännu mer proteiner och jäst.
Tror jag med på ett finare filter.
There seemed to be a big difference in carbonation between the unfiltered and filtered, at the end of the video.
The filtered one had lots of bubbles. Like a champagne or something :)
Wouldn’t that difference in carbonation also effect the taste?
Yes some, but I've tried to count in for that. This was massive.
What do you think of northern Brewer, company that sells kits and stuff to Brew? I'm thinking of going through them but not if you don't think it's a good idea
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@@jennifersaville4332 Great! I don't believe that kit comes with all you need for bottling. You might need to get some bottles and carbonation drops. You could reuse pet bottles. Just be aware of light. Hops and light don't go together and as beer contains hops...
If you want to use glass bottle you have to get a capper and some caps. Let me know if you want me to link stuff. I'm here for you!
@@DrHansBrewery if you could link stuff for me that would be awesome and greatly appreciated
@@jennifersaville4332 no problem, it looks likes it's an autosiphon with the kit. want pet bottles or glass?
Man, did you remove the plastic from of outside of filter? I think I saw this at 21mim43seg. Or that is a new one you showed on video? Because if you didn´t remove, the liquid is forced to pass directly to the outlet and is not filtred and this is probably the reason it took so long.
Yes I did remove it
I think maybe try one micron and see if it pulls more particles , yeast and/or proteins out.
Commercial breweries sometimes will do a step down filter from 5 microns down to 1 or even 0.3micron ...If it helps my opinon is the 1 micron is the sweet spot for single stage. Thanks for the video.
Thanks, yes I will try a finer filter the next time.
Did you finally figure out what else was at play?
Can't be sure. Maybe something got into the small one.
Tried it again today. The small one. Definitely something got in there. It's not bad but starting to taste more acidic and more like a cider. Still nice though but definitely not right.
At 5.30 you didn’t want the fermentasaurus to deflate or implode.
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Maybe because you used 5 micron as opposed to 1 micron?
Next time I definitely go finer
Yeah I just bought the filter kit and 1 micron filters for my kolsch.
@@BRUCE24098 cool
Du trenger ett 1 micron filter. eller 0,5 micron. brewshop.no/produkt/fat-co2/slanger-koblinger-og-tilbehor/vaskbart-filter-1-micron Eller brewshop.no/produkt/fat-co2/slanger-koblinger-og-tilbehor/the-clarifier-1-micron-stainless-steel-filter
Ja jag får testa med ett finare filter nästa gång.
Dr. 5 micron is waaayyyy tooo much. You can strip a ton of flavor and hop flavors especially, next time use a 1 micron filter!
Noted! I will try a 1 micron next time.
Cheers!
Wouldn't the 1 micron filter be smaller then the 5 micron filter? Also I've used a 1 micron and it didn't strip flavor so I doubt the 5 would since its got larger holes.
@@Linkie-link Hi, because yeast itself is about 7 microns, I want it to pass my filter (for bottle conditioning/carbonation. So, I use a 10-micron filter.
a 5 micron is bigger (ae lets more through) than a 1 micron