A Pro Score Using Free Samples??? - Andrew Huang SPACETIME
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2021
- With many thanks to #andrewhuang for inviting me to collaborate on his film Spacetime where a bunch of composers all score the same amazing sci-fi sequence. I asked myself "instead of hawking all the Spitfire libraries I use, how about I try scoring the whole thing using free samples?".
Check out Andrew Huang's Spacetime film here: • 4 COMPOSERS SCORE THE ...
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Christian, you're an inspiration! Thanks for being part of this and sharing so much knowledge, and so many sounds :)
No thank you!!!
He had a haircut especially, Andrew. That MEANS something.
@@MrTomDangerous That's my daughter's handy work!
Lmao this is definitely not the collab I ever expected
This was so awesome. Thank you.
Wait you're the FOUNDER of spitfire??? That's the coolest thing I've heard all day! Love the free VST and samples, it's really really helped me begin my journey as a musician!
Christian... I DO SO appreciate your using LABS free samples for this because it shows us the absolute quality of these free samples. Thanks so much, as always, for such a marvelous video!!
Perhaps the combination free samples + 30 years of experience is the key :)
@@M4T... very true!!!
Watching 4 producers is always a mixed bag. On one hand it's super interesting to see how different producers work. On the other, it's always a bit "is this really for me?" seeing all the expensive gear and software.
So, thank you Christian, for being the first 4 Producers guest to acknowledge the vast cost of producing music - orders of magnitude more than any other medium. It's always a pleasure to hear your music and your thought process!
Arguably producing video gets more expensive, but good point!
@@Tony2dH See I've been thinking about that since I posted my comment, and I think you're right - filmmaking can go higher than music, and music starts cheaper. But, if we're talking about a lone creative in their garage getting to a position where they're unlikely to face immovable limitations as a direct result of their equipment, music is more expensive.
To my knowledge, the cheapest music can be is the cost of a raspberry pi kit and monitor, if you're satisfied with only making music on FOSS trackers, using freely available chiptune samples.
But, to go beyond that you'll need an off-the-shelf computer, a DAW, and some means of recording - the best part of £1k.
It's because of Christian and the folks at Spitfire that I can safely not include plugins on that list.
At a minimum to start filmmaking you can get away with just a phone camera, and an off-the-shelf computer. Even complex VFX and editing can be achieved now using Blender. Surely a few hundred pounds short of the music bill. For a kid in a garage filming with their friends, needing that much and only that is achievable - they most likely have all that already. The music kit list much less so.
But, music becomes more expensive as every new genre or style results in more expenditure - not necessarily true for filmmaking.
So... by these parameters which, while specific, are (according to my highly anecdotal evidence!) probably the parameters in which the majority of beginners operate? (I use 'kid' and 'person' in 'garage' or 'bedroom' mostly interchangeably... feel free to substitute in your own situation!)
In comparison though, some other media:
- Text-based art forms like code, (including simple games), poetry and prose at their cheapest can be created and posted to the internet from a phone or raspberry pi.
- Digital art and most animation is the cost of a decent off-the-shelf laptop plus the cost of a drawing tablet - a beginner would be pushed to spend £1k.
- To start at 3D is the cost of a PC with a midrange graphics card - expensive at the moment but hopefully eventually less so, once again thanks to the blender foundation.
@@eyre_ I only have first hand experience with music making and just second hand experience with the video side, now thinking about it more, I would say for a beginner to get to a decent level both are fairly similar in cost. For music, indeed the starting cost may be slightly cheaper; for most genres I'd say it's basically the cost of a half-decent computer (as Christian demonstrates, a free DAW like Reaper and free plugins are already enough!). Nowadays you can get one for less than 500 and indeed many people already have one anyway. As you argued, for video it's the same, although I think for music you can get by with less processing power than with video, as graphics power is mostly irrelevant.
Expenses start to pick up once you want to start making recordings, then you'll need an interface, microphone, instruments, cables etc. not to mention acoustic treatment. But I don't think those things are absolutely necessary (depending on the genre some more than others). I'm not as familiar with film equipment, but I think that for all of the music gear there are equivalents in video making at all levels: camera, lenses, lighting equipment, etc. Plus, video-making also includes sound, so microphones etc. can also come into the picture. One can end up combining the costs of photography and sound and, depending on the style, also graphic design/animation.
All in all, I would place video and music at close first and second place, firmly above the other arts you mentioned. In any case, now's a better time than ever to get started in either! Though for now I'll stick to music as it's expensive enough as it is :p
@@Tony2dH Yeah that seems fair. I'd agree with all that. From my experiences filmmaking it's usually easier to come up with a hack to avoid a problem than in music. For an example, see Ian Hubert's videos where he creates shots with crowds of characters walking around massive virtual sets using only blender's realtime Eevee engine and a green screen. However, in music the moment something audibly electronic would be unsuitable, the 'hacks' tend to dry up.
Also, Reaper isn't actually free, it just doesn't have DRM. Cockos trust their customers with a demo version whose only limitations are described in its EULA - the software doesn't throw up paywalls, just a nag screen. A discounted license is only $60, but it's still an expense. And, it depends on a person being content to work in Reaper when most of the most accessible educational content is for Live, Logic and FL.
I'd actually make a case that now is actually a pretty bad time to start. Once the current microchip supply/demand cock-up resolves, and it becomes possible to buy a new computer for a reasonable price again (under £500 is surprisingly difficult atm), then it will be a good time to start. The best time there has ever been, in fact.
To get to my current position in music where I'm well equipped for the genres that pay well that I'm best at, and I could attempt just about any style relatively easily cost about £2500, plus a computer worth about £1500. In hindsight I could have managed that a little cheaper, but not by much - maybe shave off a grand or so. I accumulated that equipment over 8 years. I afforded pretty much all of it by saving on living costs to the extent that at times I became quite ill. If any of it ever needs replacing I'm screwed. The fact that I had to wait for so long to be able to use what I needed held back my learning from really beginning at all for most of those 8 years.
I apologise for bashing out all these text-wall sob stories, especially under a video that's making such a positive contribution. But, of the hundreds of producers and composers I've met and spoken to, I've only ever met one other in anything like my position. We're rarer than most folks seem to realise - I'm inclined to believe this is because most of us just give up.
@@eyre_ No worries, I find it interesting to read and to hear your perspective!
I realise the costs for music vary widely depending on the genre. Perhaps more so than for video. Indeed for most electronic music (where I have most experience) the initial costs to get good results can be very little with free software or budget synths nowadays, while for other genres it will be difficult to sound as professional on a limited recording budget. For video, I suppose some genres like science fiction might require better props and sets and such to look good, but maybe hacks like the one you mentioned can even the costs out.
My comment that it's a good time to start mainly comes from the synth/electronica world and music not being my main source of income, so my view may have been too narrow. Anyway, I hope you manage to make a good living without sacrificing your health now and in the future! Best wishes
Awesome video! There is just one piece of misinformation at around 11:25. A Bartok pizzicato is actually when the string player pulls the string in a way that it then slaps against fretboard of the instrument. What Christian was explaining is a technique called "col legno".
I noticed this as well, which is odd since he's described each properly in the past
Yeah, it should be "col legno battuto". Your explanation is right on ;)
Thanks for pointing this out. I was checking to see if someone else said it before I posted the same info.
i forced myself to use labs instead of kontakt with expensive libraries, it makes me more creative
I applaud this.
@@TheCrowHillCo on the other hand .... :)
That's cool, but I have to wonder how that's working out for you in the competitive marketplace..
@@SineEyed I mean, surely if it sounds good it doesn't matter whether it cost £1000s or £0, right? This idea that you NEED all these expensive tools just to create music is just wrong - There are so many great quality FREE tools out there that work equally well (and sometimes even BETTER) than the equivalent products that go for £100s or even £1000s. The differences between stock/free plugins vs these expensive brands is also always so minor that it really doesn't matter 99.9% of the time (especially if you know what you're doing - an experienced person using full stock Ableton plugins will always sound more professional than an inexperienced person with £1000s of gear).
@@ToxicBearStudios no one said anything about plugins or other such tools. OP specifically mentions sample libraries, and that's what I had in mind when I commented..
Christian, you’re truly a class act in every sense. Thank you!
When he played the Video with no sound
i really felt that 😂
Same. I love that.
Duck Lilly quack 🐣
So YOU are the legend that supported my passion by providing me with a great set of free tools ❤💯
So happy to see you and Andrew collaborating. My musical worlds collide once again!
"I even used the Chroma Reverb," he says with tears in his eyes. My favorite part 😆 great vid and better result! I def thought that this one was the most "scene in a movie" out of all of them
It’s import to acknowledge Christians ethos that your ability should never be stifled by the fact you have little or no money. Showing that you can have fun on a budget. I came here after discovering Christians vlogs. It has certainly helped my mental health. Initially using all the free stuff to help me along. So a big thumbs up to you Christian and all the hardworking team at Spitfire. More importantly to all those that give up their free time to make free samples for piano book for people like me to use and enjoy. 👍🏻You guys rock 👍🏻
I just finished watching Andrew's premiere. I LOVE everything about this! Thank you far everything you do for musicians and composers, Christian!
Was so cool seeing you on Andrew's channel!
As usual, bloody amazing to see how you do it and also the outcome was bloody amazing!
I do love si fi and space films :)
Man, that transition over the space ship shot brought tears to my eyes, honestly. Incredibly beautiful. It's incredibly dense of different feelings: It's mysterious, peaceful, obscure, sad, serious, magnificent, solitary and melancholic all at the same time.
Thank you very much.
Really loved this, thanks a bunch!
Another amazing video Christian! Thank you for sharing this and going deeper into the creative process behind it.
CZcams at its best! This is an absolutely fantastic insight into the process - thank you for taking the time, Christian.
I love that you allowed space (no pun) for the low end additions that would ultimately be inserted as SFX in Post Production. I loved the concept of using 'free' samples and real musicians... I loved the 'Space Whales' too!
Great stuff Christian 😎
Once again, tremendously inspiring! Thank you both Christian and Andrew. Super stuff!
Man LABS by Spitfire Audio is so good !! Thanks for your contribution
Brilliant and inspiring Christian!! Thanks for all you do. Greatly appreciated by everyone!!
Wow! I’ve got to say, as an inspiring media composer I’ve been getting an education from your channel that’s none like anywhere else. Cheers, and thank you for what you do!
I came from Andrew's channel. This was an absolutely brilliant breakdown, thanks for sharing.
Man, this is the best. You have such a great way of taking us through the production of the sounds, and also telling us how the sounds are created. So valuable, so inspiring . Thanks for doing this.
Thank you so much for exposing me to all these great sounds!
Absolutely brilliant, insightful, fascinating! Thank you so much for taking time to do this!
What a superb video. Thank you Christian. You continue to teach in an interesting and inspirational way. I, amongst many others I am sure, truly appreciate the effort you put in to these broadcasts. Wonderful.
Absolutely brilliant and inspirational. I love the Labs samples, thank you for making them available for free
Henson man! I‘m glued to my screen every time theres content from you!
As always the talent is obvious and lovely to behold. And the sharing is SO MUCH APPRECIATED!
Wonderful interpretation, and wonderful approach. Thank you for sharing. (And thank you for Spitfire LABS!!!)
I was really blown away when I saw that video for the first time. Fascinating and useful breakdown of how you went about scoring it. Many thanks for showing us and I look forward to more of your videos.
This is one of the most inspirational things i've seen in a long time! thank you Christian !
Awesome work! Thanks for share this!
soooo glad you uploaded the full version of your workflow for that andrew huang spacetime project!!
Absolutely fantastic! So inspiring! Thank you!
Such a generous video thank you so much Chris
I enjoyed this piece the most, which is saying a lot because I thought all the takes were brilliant. I liked this the most because it was emotionally intense. It had emotional range. That “drop” into the vocal section just killed me. Well done.
I’m hooked on this! Spitfire fan for life!
Beautifully done Christian, Labs is an amazing set of sounds
Thank you for your fantastic labs series and other free resources. It's amazing what you can create with free instruments.
Thank you so much, Christian! This is truly awesome - and very inspiring!
Seeing you on Andrews video was awesome!! Great stuff!
I’m glad I subscribed to Andrew’s channel. That’s how I subscribe to yours. This is something I’ve always wanted to do. Awesome way how you broke this down and your choices of sounds.
Christian, you made me addicted to listening to it. I love the transition you've done. Amazing
This journey has been absolutely out of this world! Got to be one of the best all round pieces of work showing how your composition has been put together to the video! Pure genius, so well explained in perfect detail every step of the way and created with all free LABS components and Logic stock plugins? Gives me so much inspiration and creative juices, thank you so much, brilliant.
First FACENT now this - your current "explaining the process" approach suits you very well and is precious to all of us trying to figure it out. This is a free college class. You da man.
Definitely the winner on this one, sir. Wow, I will stay here for longer to see.... and hear more, a lot more. This was amazing! Best from Poland!
Thank you so much for your Work Christian, Labs is truly amazing and an incredible tool!
Beautifully done, and said, mate.
Thanks Max, means a lot coming from you mate.
Your my hero, Thank you for creating spitfire audio, your stuff really helped me alot
Fascinating insight into the creative process, thanks Christian!
Amazing! Simply amazing! So much valuable info in here! And what an inspiring piece of music you created there! Thanks a lot for sharing all that!
This was a wonderful video. I absolutely love the composition, hauntingly beautiful, and the insight into the work of a true master was very inspirational. Thank you so much!
In my opinion Pianobook is one of the best things that happened in musicproduction in a long while. One big massive bunch of inspiration.
Watching a master at work is just incredible. Thanks for sharing Christian!
What a marvelous opportunity to watch such an accomplished and insightful workflow. This is incredibly inspiring! As much as I love my synths there's always this nagging idea in the back of my mind that I need more organic sounds. Labs is a godsend.
Thank you. Christian-you’re a complete inspiration. Thanks for sharing all that you do!
Amazing! Love all your videos, your knowledge and your way of explaining things... Absolutely FAB!
This video was immensely helpful, wow! Such great insights. Thank you very much Christian.
Thank you for this amazing video. Learned a lot from it. TOP!
Space has been always full of inspiration to write new tunes and compositions, thank you for your video!!
Christian, this was incredible!! And the fact that you created this utilizing all of the LABS instruments. Crazy inspirational!! It's like you whipped up a gourmet dinner from leftovers!! You are the master musical chef! Thank you for your continued teachings and examples, you've given me a new creative spark, one that I've been missing for way too many years. Cheers to you!
Thanks so much for your products on spitfire audio!
Thank you Christian! This is a really useful process to watch. It is really interesting how you do these things that I would never think of doing but sound so cool. I need to experiment now.
Came here after Andrew's video, and I really appreciated you showing the video without any soundtrack at all. That was much more of a shock to the system than I had anticipated, a real oh-my-god moment. Appreciate the various compositions so much more as a result!
34:47. Yep. Excellent, Christian. LABS continues to be an inspiration in so many ways. Thanks.
Really interesting Christian !!! Thanks for this moment.
Very inspiring! Thank you!
So much inspiration - astonishing. Thanks for showing all your techniques and layers! Very appreciate your fantastic composition & production.
Absolutely phenomenal
Christian, you are an incredible wealth of information and so generous. Thank you for devoting so much time to teaching us and assisting in developing our skill set. As well as developing our understanding of how to create with virtual libraries. This is why, if there's a choice for a new library, I will always turn to Spitfire first. Cheers from California.
very cool to see you work !
another two of my youtube worlds collide. Awesome to watch and bonus points for not overplugging spitfire!
Thank you so much for sharing so many excellent tools and resources.
Loved this video, it really inspired me to keep composing no matter what, thank you Christian! (And LABS just got my attention, I'm going to try scoring something with these sounds )
Gorgeous stuff Mr. Henson!
11:25 Did you mix up bartok pizz with col legno? Bartok pizz is when you pluck the string too hard it bounces on the fingerboard :) Anyways, well done, probably the best out of the bunch!
Yes I did, well spotted!
I feel blessed to have watched this Master Class and saved it for future reference; thank you!!
This is fantastic Christian- as a piece of music and also as an educational video. I adore the LABS libraries. Invariably I’ll use something in every piece I work on. A wonderful (free) resource.
Absolutely gorgeous! Music like this just makes my spine shiver! This is the level of composing that I strive to reach.
I love LABS. LABS got me properly into composing music. Before I had dabbled but never really did anything. When I found LABS the sounds inspired me to make music and once i finished my first little piece I kept making more and it has become a nice little hobby.
Edit: Hold up you are responsible for LABS??? Thank you so much!
I always learn so much from Christian's videos, but this one was particularly informative, so much so that I had to leave a comment which I normally never do! I love that you just used Logic and LABS - this is exactly the combo I work with so it was incredibly helpful. Feeling inspired now, thanks Christian!
You are amazingly talented. I could feel tons of emotion just with any one of your layers. Your timing and taste is spot on.
Hey Christian, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you explaining the *why* behind your decision making process. It's easy to consume a lot of media around music composition and production that consists solely of "just do this", but it's clear you're here to inform, not direct, and explaining your motivations and reasoning is incredibly helpful. Thank you.
Brah u are having wayyy too much fun! Hahaha Im def enjoying watching and learning from this one!
Hi Christian, I loved the video, very well produced, presented and edited. Love it. I hope you still get to enjoy playing with that train set of some sort and get to make libraries you need.
Fantastic score and detailed description/explanation
Thank you for inspiring us with your work. Your Spitfire Labs are a true gift for us. Bless you 🙏♥
Thank You for this inspiring video!
That moment at 18:07 is pure gold. Awesome work Christian and thank you for sharing all your knowledge with everyone else!
Just gorgeous, and I absolutely love your walkthrough! As a classical musician, and someone interested in the space between electronic/pop and more classical sensibilities, it is great hearing the thought processes you have, as they resonate with me at a deeper level than the more common song-based walkthroughs.
Also, as someone who has just started producing music about 6 months ago, it's exciting and helpful to see all the freely available tools and sounds that are available (I fell in love with LABS as soon as I was introduced!), and to see how you use them with such care and depth to craft absolutely stunning musical ideas.
Truly amazing, and thank you so much!
As someone who is often more interested in the music than the film, drama or documentary it belongs to, this is fabulous to watch thank you. It teaches me so much about your approach, the background to the sounds and pro tricks. The composition is fantastic too. Thank you for taking the time to show your creative process.
Spitfire labs is such a cool thing, thanks for providing this incredible sounds for free
Epic & wonderful.
I'm 100% going to use the tremolo automation you demonstrate around 15:00. Great stuff!
Me too, great effect !
No Questions... that was amazing. Thankyou
Pianobook and Spitfire are the best source for Inspirational Sampled Instruments I ever found.
I started as a late beginner in Guitar, and your channel and your samples just inpired me to continue growing in music in general and start learning music the right way.