Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979
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- Live TV gig on July 2 1979 for Belgian TV show Folllies, a few months before guitarist John McGeogh was poached by Siouxsie & the Banshees. This footage has been used on YT with the single dubbed on - here's the real live sound and peformance in HQ.
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' lyrics:
This and that, they must be the same
What is legal is just what's real
What I'm given to understand
Is exactly what I steal
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed
I didn't lose myself in the crowd
Shot by both sides
On the run to the outside of everything
Shot by both sides
They must have come to a secret understanding
New offenses always in my nerves
They're taking my time by force
They all sound the same when they scream
As a matter of course
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed
I didn't lose myself in the crowd
Shot by both sides
On the run to the outside of everything
Shot by both sides
They must have come to a secret understanding
Why are you so edgy Kid?
Asks the man with the voice
One thing follows another
You live and learn, you have no choice
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed
I didn't lose myself in the crowd
I didn't lose myself to the crowd
I didn't lose myself to the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed
I didn't lose myself in the crowd
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
But I wormed my way
Shot by both sides
I don't ask who's doing the shooting
Shot by both sides
We must have come to a secret understanding
Songwriter: Howard Devoto
Shot By Both Sides lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
#Magazine #HowardDevoto #JohnMcGeoch @GazelyGaze - Hudba
The way John McGeoch slides his hand down the neck of that guitar and makes it scream ever shriller and louder is a wonderful thing!!!
Watching him just now, I was reminded of how the late Roy Buchanan could make his guitar positively sing.
This was such an exciting single for that time - Still sounds great over four decades later....
RIP John McGeoch
John McGeoch was an incredible artist!! Very original way of playing the guitar!!! R.I.P.
It's like Brian Eno and Johnny Rotten had a test tube baby
ha ha, spot on!
Why does he look so beautiful in this? He looks gorgeous
Co-written by Pete Shelley...probably my favorite single song...it' got everything.
Lipstick
This bass player is very underrated.
When I was young I always said I would get the Devoto / Eno hairstyle when mine thinned. Alas, that happened so fast that I didn't have a chance to remember that promise.
I went to see Magazine back in the day xx
Arguably the best riff ever!!!
Greatest song ever made by a walking mile. And I wasn't a massive Magazine fan . Quality personified. My band have finished our gig with this since we were teens. And we're now 50 odd year old dudes. 🙏🏻
how about 60? Went right out and bought this album when it originally came out.
Outside The Clash my favourite punk single - great B side too.
Great bass playing on this, the song was a popular feature of The Hitmen ( ex Radio Birdman, pre Hoodoo Gurus members ) live set in the suburbs of late 70's Australia.
Was just a little too young to see Birdman in the 70s but made up for it later. Lucky enough to see the Hitmen, the Visitors at various times at the legendary Stagedoor Tavern in Sydney including the Comrades of War night. Great bands. Saw Magazine early 80s after they had put out more stuff. Fantastic live in a small venue.
The lead break will never be bettered ever! Still gets me every time! Fukin phenomenal 🖤🔥💥
I met the band backstage in 1979 and to this day remains the only time I've ever been star-struck when I shook Howard Devoto's hand and opened my mouth and nothing would come out.
Magnificent find this and thanks for posting.
Exactly how it felt the one time I caught a train and bumped into Swans´s Michael Gira ...only thing which came out was a "Thank you (for everything ) " and a handshake . Usually I talk to them ,but that one time , I dunno if it was the state I was in which I feared would make me seem/sound like some lobotomised mental patient ,or plain star struck just like you. He´s just a small dude with a cowboy hat and a couple of beers he had bought on the train´s bar ,still I couldn´t bring myself to go over and engage in any conversation.
I believe Barry Adamson had only been playing bass for about six months when they recorded that first album, which is kinda amazing, in my opinion.
Compared to 6 string, bass is piss easy to play. I started on bass then moved into guitar.
Bass is fun and important, but being perfectly brutally honest any twat can play bass.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 yes and no. Easy to pick up and get the hang of compared to guitar, but the bass requires a lot of stamina and precision, that’s not even taking playing live into consideration
@@draxlerchronicles5851 All depends what basslines are being played. The bass line on this song would need someone pretty good.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 Just not as well as Barry.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 Waiting for your video playing bass on this song with same stamina, precision and timing. :)
Wot an f-ing great band. Intellectual and melodic.
McGeoch Is wonderfullllll 🏴☠️I love John ♥️ 🌹 RIP 🌹
They were so tight and timing was perfect
Always a top band,from the post-punk era of the late 70's to them re-forming 2009...".No Thyself" is a brilliant album.
Ah. I haven't heard it. Thanx i Will listen to no thyself
It’s common knowledge that Pete Shelley from Buzzcocks “ allowed “ Magazine to use his iconic riff for this song... glad he did cod I love the original Buzzcocks useage and this also does it huge justice... of course McGeoch took it, ran with it and made it part of a unique and fantastic song... love it
My understanding is that Devoto continued to write for the Buzzcocks after his departure. McGeoch and Devoto put this song together, for the Buzzcocks.
Hi disco secret , I’m pretty sure that the riff was written by Pete Shelley for a Buzzcocks song , Devoto quit to form magazine but they were allowed to use it… came from Shelley himself I recall
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering The song is written by Devoto/Shelley. So you might well be right.
@@80ssynthfan48 yep, cheers 🍻 for that 80’s 👍
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Pete Shelly wrote the riff for Devoto for this tune for magazine. But they both collaborated to write this tune. Shelly 6 months later used the riff in Lipstick and gave Devoto credit on the record.
Devoto......... LEGEND !!!!!!!
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 seems the sound guy thought this was a magic act... or soemthing...
Howard is so cool, omg
Oh God. I love this.
Priceless footage.
One of the coolest bands, EVER.
I like the missed delay effect on the first time he sais "shot"
That's what happens when it's live! You take risks that it won't be quite right, but no over-slick over-produced blandness here.
One of the great bands of the time. Personally, I think they were better than Joy Division though I doubt many agree.
Also Wire and PIL
Oh yeah , between McGeoch , Keith Levene and Colin Newman you have the Post punk sound (latter being the most under rated guitarist/songwriter I can think of right now ).@@growlerthe2nd712
Do you use drug??🙈😅🤣
Good but not better.
I don't like comparison. I think they unique in someway. Magazine is more fast pace with catchy riff. Joy division is spacy and more atmospheric.
Great guitar from John, fantastic. Thanks for this.
The rendering of the words of this song by Howard Devoto equals the expression of Johnny Rotten. Also magnificent camerawork for Howard to interact with. The soundquality is poor, but what the hack?! The album is great
Awesome song!!! Magazine is a hidden jem.
From a Country that gave us Plastic Bertrand and fuck all else, they were lucky to see such a seminal band.
Pixies were good Brielpoort Sept sometime.
Mate there's great music everywhere, even in Belgium, but the global industry never gave a toss about bands that refused to sing in English.
This is great 👍
Simply badass.
Magazine, forever expressing my feelings. Somewhere between the waitress and her table.
Thanks for uploading. Any version of any song of this band deserve's to be registrated and publiziced
Un pezzo della madonna!
Que buena banda es magazine su esencia es el postpunk
con el mejor guitarrista de post punk
beautiful....still.
Very nice
great band. thanks uploader.
Merci.
So underated
Their music is over the heads of the masses.
Thanks .
Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. I am off to listen to 'Telephone Operator'.
Descansa en poder.
Gracias por vivir.
Great song
Used to play this song to death on 12 inch!
Brilliant!
Awesome!!
Love it!
"Shot by both sides. I don't ask who is doing the shooting."
brilliant
Those moves are so influential.
Wow
Reminds me a lot of Brian Eno’s early art rock albums
And so does his receding hair-line!
@@GazelyGaze It actually looks pretty badass on him, it accentuates his face, which matches the angular music they make
Strange but not bad first time hearing this
UNREAL Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Radiohead said that this song inspired a riff in their song Just.
Great! Thank you!
Brillant
Sounds like the refrain in Liptsick.
I love you big Dummy!!!
Ah Back in the days when bands had to have someone who could sing and people who could play their instruments
HOWARD DEVETO the valtimore of punk..
Triggerfinger need to cover this. As a matter of urgency.
Dobby, the early years.
Fckn outstandin
Young McGeoch!
The bassline is awesome . Pity he never appears on the video
1.40 to 1.50
And about 2.50 too
And about 3.35!
Just so many times!
Saw magazine in Belgium opening. For pil. Of course magazine. Where 10 x better
I can hear the influence on early Simple Minds here....hear?
Modern Eon thought I was their drummer! Child's Play era.
Hey kids!
Take a trip back in time to when music mattered
3 minutes of post punk perfection
Kids?
Barry Adamson where are you??
He's recently (Oct 2021) released an autobiog. which is well worth a read
talke about a distinctive bass sound Did he play with Pete Shelly when shelly went solo?
No, that was buzzcocks bassist steve garvey
McGeoch!
Le jeune public belge de l'époque n'a pas trop l'air de comprendre ce qui se passe 🤪
Somehow begining reminds me of the endlng of "Wunderschätze" by German band Novalis.
Oh! Maybe they were twins? Maybe not...
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2214PM 12.9.23 HEY MAN.......... i bought in fabric... and i am this band's ultimate fan. though can tell you nothing about it or it's membership... what was goin' on with the sound guy, with the elongated and echoing wordage..... shohohohohhot.. etc?
The 'shot' echo must've seemed a good idea at the time...
@@GazelyGaze Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2229pm 12.9.23 have you full concert? this seems like a proper gig. he looks up for it. he seems long haired and muso-ish. i once met a guy in a camera store he looked like HD. i wondered if it was his son or something... it kindda ruins the composition.. amusingly so.. as though he had to emphasise a certain word during some terrible conjuring trick. the great impresto!! if he ever writes again i think he should use that Nom de guerre... ahaha. cheers!!!
@@JJONNYREPP Sadly that's all I have from the TV programme; 'the hit single'.
@@GazelyGazeMagazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2236pm 12.9.23 Ist da jemand? Kannst du mir einen Schlag für Ja geben, zwei für den Rasen!? ah. i was trying my new paranormal interaction skit. type something into computer voice app and see if it can connect to ghostly presences.... you replied. so that must say something about the dead... or about being a Walloon or Flemish music fan. ahahaha... adios. old ham.. any birds about here or anywhere to get a pint?
Devoto is Lydon half Emo Phillips
1:24!!!!!!!!
A masterpiece track like this could never be replicated by emo wank kids in 2020. All 5 musicians working on V8 cylinders.
black midi do it every time they're plugged into an electrical supply
Too much time in safe spaces.
Fr shrr
I've never heard of this band. Was this band one of the good ones at its time? They sound pretty good.
er....yes ! go listen to all their albums ... very nice
They were absolutely bloody marvellous. Listen to (i) Real Life, (ii) Secondhand Daylight, (iii) Magic, Murder and the Weather, and you will be a happy man. Also, perhaps. 'Jerky Versions of the Dream'.
@@JHatLpool Thank you brother for the tip. I am still learning about Rock n Roll.
@@pazamor9164 They were great. The Correct Use of Soap is an excellent album, but maybe start at the beginning, Real Life.
@@80ssynthfan48 Thank you for you reply, man. I still have to learn a lot about rock music.
Brilliant times...is it just me or does Howard look like Klaus Nomi ???
or Brian eno
I thought this exact thing yesterday! They have similar faces
is this the only song that was filmed? would love to see the whole set...
it's the only song they made available...
Chuck The Stranglers, The Pistols and Roxy Music in a blender --- drink.
Can anyone inlighten me as to what he says before they start playing? "__??__ you've got about 15 seconds"
Someone asked that about a year ago. The best guess was that it's something like: - "we're going to have a break and let you think about that. You got, ah, fifteen seconds."
KILLer live band. Way better THEN THE buzzcocks. Live just. MINDBLOWING. Great. Just top band
Rubbish. No way are they *way better* than Buzzcocks. And there is no THE.
And what is ‘way better’? Surely you mean ‘much better’?
Anyone got a quick rundown of what he's actually saying in this song?
Like is it something to do with people's political views on the left and thr right being dissonant or what
I always took it literally about war. But your interpretation is how I feel about modern politics - one side wants the government to shaft you and the other side wants corporations to shaft you.
According to a few places ive looked, its about people who become very politically stubborn, and end up resorting to violence on people who disagree with their views
@@Andrew-zo5po Probably and it's become the case again recently.
Its about being a political centrist. Both sides hate you. Look at that Starmer guy in the UK.
@@andyh7895 Starmer is a tosser though and not for poltical reasons.
Can someone tell me what he says at the beginning?
Sounds like: "We’re going to get ra?????, I’ll let you think about that. You got, er, fifteen seconds." Just can't work out that word!
@@GazelyGaze I guess he will let us think about that
@@brighteyes1158 thinking about it for not 15 seconds but (gulp!) 42 years later!
@@GazelyGaze I think he said, "we're going to have a break and let you think about that You got, ah, fifteen seconds.
@@mindtpi That sounds about right! Solved! Unless any lip-reader wants to disagree.
always fuckin disturbing in the best way
One of the best of the bands along with the other punk like joy division and etc.
And back when 'post-punk' was just punk music and not a quicky or edgy fashion style connected to it. Just straight up new wave and punk energy along with the fall, wire, killing joke, etc
Sometimes Howard Devoto comes over like Rick Mayall doing a piss take!
I don't think I'll be able to unsee that comparison! But Rik Mayall is great too.
@@GazelyGaze sorry!
Yup I did indeed re-dub this classic and as a big fan of Magazine I am happy to say it's much better than this awful live performance... ;-)
Just a pity that for a rare recorded live performance they weren't at their best, especially vocals wise... :-/
Well thanks and well done MadFrank008 for making that video promo for the single! Magazine needed it. (And what you did for the Primitives was clever - and popular!) If you're a really big fan, you'll also appreciate bands raw and unfinessed though. Studio gloss and sheen doesn't always reflect reality, and often hides the humanity underneath. Room for both, I think!
@ Gazely Gaze7: Definitely room for both that I agree with, some bands can really cut it live better than others though. My favourite band of all time The Specials to me are even better live than the polished studio recordings and I prefer to listen to their live stuff... :-)
Sometimes though a band (even our favourites) can sound bloody awful live and this particular performance here by Magazine for me falls into that category and just isn't enjoyable to listen too but then that's just my personal feelings on it and I know some will enjoy the raw grit of it... :-)
As you probably know there isn't a lot of footage of Magazine around performing their music so it was just handy for me that when I discovered this clip that I found I could edit easily enough to dub it with the studio recording. Now we can at least have some promo video for the studio recording and a live version for all to enjoy, so I reckon it's the best of both worlds and a win , win in the end... :-)
Live music for me is best experienced in person at a gig and is an experience not to be missed, it's a different world being at a live gig and you tend not to notice if the singer aint performing well as you are caught up in the whole atmosphere and headiness of being part of it, while the recorded studio tracks are for the most part best experienced at home. Both have their place and all bands/ artists have their good performances and bad, I guess the most important thing of all though is I'm just thankful such people did create their music for us as life without music would have been pretty crap I'd reckon... ;-)
It’s just the mix
There's footage from Granada TV's So It Goes TV show of Magazine playing Motorcade and Shot By Both Sides from their 2nd ever gig (Elizabethan Ballroom, Belle Vue, Manchester) in late 77 that, perhaps strangely, sounds 100 times better than this (even though the TV sound is mediocre at best). The band still had original keyboard player Bob Dickinson. Imo they never sounded as good ever again.
Terrible-
Terrible,