Even More Rifle Slings
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- As the world's foremost expert in complaining about rifle slings, I bring you another video about nylon and triglides. Two point quick adjust slings from Haley Strategic, Flatline Fiber Co, and Ed Sherman Designs. Can one of them dethrone the Ferro Concepts Slingster? Is one of them carried on the strength of a name despite being hot garbage?
Yes, and yes!
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0:00 Ed Sherman Designs Sling
1:42 Haley Strategic SLK Sling
4:07 Flatline Fiber Co Sling - Sport
I've never returned a product faster than the Haley sling, it's literally "it'll get you killed" bad.
Have you considered making your own?
The standard D3 is significantly better, can adjust to reposition pad better, but still has issues with binding, specifically when you want to cinch up (easy to loosen). Gonna try some silicon lube on the triglides.
Lol… it’s not even bad. I used a sling systems 3 point sling in Afghanistan. That was terrible.
@@Lifechanging99999 One of the first things we did prepping to leave home was slap our own slings on our weapons, I gave one of my guys my credit card to go buy a sling at the PX. Came back with one of the BFG padded slings.
@@ZhuWrong our Gunner would have shutdown the idea of using other sling brands that were non-issue. Especially with m16s.
I have a Cataphract Concepts Shadowkiller sling 3.0. It has a cool proprietary blend of nomex and nylon for flame resistance and a soft feel. I love the infrared only visible rainbow pattern and the nitride coated steel reinforced snap buckles, and if you bothered to read all of this congratulations, I made all of that up just to leave a comment. I really have a cheap gray Magpul sling that I like because it color matches the furniture on my budget AR.
You had me going there
BFG finally admitted their slings had a QC issue regarding the webbing after many months of back and forth with them. Despite this, they never bothered to offer replacements or even a discount code to get "fixed" ones. I might just end up buying the Ed Sherman one with a Defense Mechanisms pad.
That sucks I have three bfg slings only one is used heavy. So far so good, hope I don’t have to use there customer service. With that said, qd has been out the windows with everyone lately do to supply shortages but don’t let that be an excuse for poor service.
Yikes... I checked mine after hoplopfheil made the video about the possible issues and showed the different flag pattern to differentiate. Thankfully, both of mine are 'old' model that don't have the issues people have had and they've worked well for me going hunting for deer each year (not a ton of hard use like competition, but I'm afield for a few hours every day for a week).
Hopefully BFG comes around and picks up their customer service; I'd hate to stop buying a good product just because the company decided to ignore their customers, but it's also something I'm not willing to abide in this industry.
I must have one of the old BFG slings, i got mine in like 2017.. It has worked for me with no issues.
@@Ironsight_Army Sounds like it. The USA Flag on the silk-screened portion of the sling apparently is different. The old ones have 'whited out' flag stripes, whereas the newer ones have 'white outline' stripes.
Can see the example hop' showed on his prior video: czcams.com/video/BOfHNM0j0Gw/video.html
I've had my Ed Sherman sling on my SCAR for a while now and really like it. It's what I've been recommending to people for their rifles since its inexpensive and does a pretty good job.
5:37 I CRASHED MY DRONE TO GET YOU A+ DRONE FOOTAGE AND THAT'S THE FOOTAGE YOU USE?!
owned tbh liberal
Drones are worse than 3D printers
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Just build a new one.
Defense mech stowable slings have been my recommendation to everyone for a while now, definitely useful!
Same. Heavier nylon than a lot of the slings I’ve used and the best stowing mechanism too. Hop reviewed their plate carrier, wonder why he hasn’t checked out their sling.
I didn't like it.
I have a ton of DM stuff that I love, but the DM sling wasnt great. I like the idea though.
Love my flatline fiber co. slings. Most minimalist padded sling I can find. No weird adjustment dingus, no metal jangly hardware, no bulky or extraneous hardware, etc.
I hate most every sling I’ve used including the Haley 2-1 sling.
There’s a company local to me called Slytac that makes high quality($$$) slings that adjust easily, made in America(mostly California). I really like them. Worth checking out imo.
I think we are seriously living in the golden age of slings. I love the esd for it's slick adjustment and the fact that there's no cam to overcome, so I don't have to yank the slider forwards to adjust it. I'm looking to try one of the flatline fiber co padded slings for my next rifle
My favorite slings have been from Warhorse Concepts. Brandon does a great job and will tailor them to your preference without breaking the bank. I've also heard really good things about the Sly Tactical Slings
Dell computer bag sling. Been using it for 2 years. Not bad and has held up.
I found an odd small brand (STI Rifle Slings) that does pretty good stuff at a really good price. 1.25” tubular nylon that is allegedly US sourced with a quick adjust thumb loop for a tad over $20. Don’t get a padded section, but the slightly wider nylon seems to help lighten the load a bit. Check them out.
I stumbled upon STI a few years back and love the absolute simplicity and quality. It's absolutely 100% no frills and the definition of based but it's comfy, cheap and if you're familiar with basic 2 point operations, it's an excellent purchase.
Same, gonna throw in a good word for STI slings. Been using a few of them for a while and no complaints. Shameless plug, I posted a video on the channel about it. Having said that, I just got a Flatline Fiber co sling, and it’s really nice. You definitely see the difference between the 2. They’re both good quality slings tho, but I would go with the Flatline for my go-to’s, and all the other shotguns and rifles can get STI’s.
In the Army I made a sling out of the M16A2’s black parade sling and a bungee cord. I wrapped the sling slightly loose around the butt stock (to allow me to get it out of the charging handle’s way) and secured it with the metal slide. The bungee was tied to the other end of it and secured to the front sight. It worked rather well IMO. Though I wonder how it would hold up used for Hop’s applications.
The elastic on the ESD is also there for stowing the sling into itself.
Thank you for taking the time to make these review videos. I for one am glad to know what to recommend to my friends, thanks to you. I have gone with the t-rex arms slings, and they're alright. Next time I talk someone into getting a sling, I'll send them this video. Hopefully this helps people spend less on slings and more on ammo for training and other gear they may need.
There is no reviewer I have more confidence in than Hop. I do need another 2 point and am now ordering Flatline Fiber Co or BAG sling after typing this comment. Thanks again.
My favorite sling is the Sly Tactical QCS. The padding is low profile but extremely comfortable. You can get a variety of rear configurations the front is a snap hook but an incredibly good snaphook with a fingershelf. And it's a convertible if you want or need to run it in a single point config.
good info. thanks. I've got a blue force gear/ vickers ak sling on my 16" ak. good pull tab, decent amount of adjustment, doesn't bind, I like the wire attachment point on the front of the sling because it attaches to a part that gets really hot. not padded but a minor inconvenience.
Flatline Fiber Co is my most recent sling. I have the padded ranger green, it is very comfortable and simple. I like it a lot.
Another sling to throw in the ring is the Proctor Sling. It's about as minimalist as it gets and it works with almost any rifle. I've got a few and they're easily my favorite sling.
@@southernpartisan1772 Proctor slings also stow super neatly on the gun. Just a really good all around sling for a rifle that isn't super heavy
@@southernpartisan1772 Same. If you're after a few, there's a company called TacBelts UK that still makes the plastic attachments
I love the cam lock on my Wellsmade sling but I wish they made a padded version. I might have to check out that Flatline sling. The padding looks good.
The GrovTec Sentry two point QD sling is my favorite.
To this day, I still don't see any need to pay anything above a 15 dollar sling. I know some dudes will always insist that "you need the extra padding because redistribution of weight", yet almost always run it on some form of an AR 15 which is the epitome of a low weight rifle. What is crazier is that many of the 15 dollar slings available now are actually better quality than the slings I was issued in active duty. I know that for professional and or consistent drill use, a padded sling can help. But some of these 40 to 60 dollar slings don't even have extra padding. Meanwhile the ones I bought are still running fine. I know some people are probably going to give me shit for this comment. But save your money for other parts, a sling is the least of your worries.
Might as well just use shoestring then…you do what works for you buddy
@SupraJZA80 Paracord did get used extensively in active duty sometimes. I'm not saying that we shouldn't use a decent sling. I am just saying that the cost for a decent sling that will be reasonably comfortable isn't nearly as high as what some industry reps would want you to believe.
MagPul MS1 has worked well for my needs. Not too thin, not too wide. The slider it uses to me beats a pull tab for adjusting length. I got the basic version, no QD nonsense.
I have an MS1. I like the simplicity of it. My adjuster buckle won’t hold position. It slips as I move around. So it’s on my home D carbine that basically, stays at home.
The more slings I try the bigger of a fan I am of the Proctor Sling for a basic do-all, easy to mount and adjust sling.
I have the same box of mostly-the-same slings that everyone else here has -- one sling that might be different enough to try is the Lunar Concepts Contour Sling over at Wise Men Company. Surprisingly that little contour did make a difference when carrying stuff for more than a few mins.
I've been eyeing one of those for a while, may place an order today
I really enjoy the ESD sling on my 16" AK. It's not really a frequent shooter, but the sling does work really well.
Flatline fiber co makes really damn good slings. I have them on all my rifles and they replaced the Ferro concepts slingsters that I had for awhile. I like them a lot. Great company, very rarely if ever are they out of stock. Unlike every single other sling company outside of BFG or vickers which I don’t like.
"it's just fucking nylon". Basically my feeling on so many things having to do with this industry. It's so simple...why is it so complicated? And expensive?
Like free floated barrels. Went from all the bells and whistles you could ever want from the factory to a tube with strategic slots on it. C'mon guys, this ain't hard.
In the past, I bought my own nylon and clips and made my own MS3 style slings with HK style hooks. They worked great until my cheap sewing machine broke--- by then the MS3 copy cats on ebay were only $10 or $13... So I just bought several of those. I still refuse to use the QD clips. They break too easy.
I've been rocking a Magpul MS1 and I like it, though I'm unsure how much I like the included QD mounts. They like to twist and hang on either my stock or if I use the QD spot just above my grip, they get stuck easily. It's the odd "wing" design they have, and I just haven't swapped it for a standard QD mount.
It's wicked comfortable and flexible. I haven't had too much issue with it loosening up on me, but if I'm shooting for more than two mags I tend to yank it off if I know I won't be standing around a lot. Slings in general get in my way, but I spent a lot of time practicing with this one for both shouldering and offhand. While I haven't had to carry it around long term by said sling, I feel reasonably confident it wouldn't bug me too much if I had to. The material they make their slings out of is reasonably supple for how dense it is.
I think you'd like the Savotta Griffin Sling MOD. Has a removable shoulder pad and a good metal friction buckle for adjustments. Nice and lightweight.
I run very simple two-point slings from Lunar Concepts. Permanently fixed to the stock for comfort and reliability and QD point up front on the rail for quick detachment in an emergency
Just ordered a flatline padded sling and a bubba tab last night so I'm excited to try them out
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Also, just like basically all other gear, the best option is going to be based on an individuals needs. For example, a bigger super padded sling will be great for a ground pounder infantry dude, but might not be the best for the dude with a bag gun for self defense. That dude might be super well suited by the ESD, but the infantry dude would not be vibing.
I do a lot of vehicle carry of long guns, so being able to manipulate controls with the sling stowed is paramount for me. But I’m also known to do some recceing of your moms house and larping in my basement from time to time, so it’s nice to have some padding.
I’ve found the Sierratac sling from Spiritus to be my happy medium. It’s narrow, and lightly padded, so it stows nicely on the rifle and doesn’t get in the way when stowed. But it still has enough padding that it doesn’t suck to carry for miles through the woods. Super simple adjustment that stays in place. Definitely my favorite sling currently
I couldn't get that sling to stay in position on longer hikes/hints, it loosened itself over and over
@@LeifyGuy interesting, that’s an issue I haven’t run into yet
I like the T. rex sling because you can switch the adjustment direction to get loser as you push out which is a more natural motion as you’re going to shoulder the rifle.
I tried the savotta griffin, pretty good but hard to adjust to tighter. Favorite i tried so far between slingster, vickers padded and that one would be the vickers padded, could be a little less padded tho. I was thinking of getting a blue alfa for my next sling and from this video it seems like a good choice.
I been looking at the SLY TACTICAL slings, particularly the Tactical Rifleman sling... The ones I have are all ESD and they're awesome, good review!
Always awesome hop. I like the magpuls and the Vickers slings. I have 2 Viking Tactics and the metal adjuster SUCKS because its too heavy and twists the sling up too much...
I've done the sling song and dance but landed on Sly Tactical. It has the widest range of adjustment, stays in place and has an awesome handle that's easy to reach without looking like a chimp.
Originally went with the Warrior Poet Society bungie sling but ended up getting a Savvy Sniper instead. They're both good for shouldering support side without having to adjust anything but the Savvy Sniper wins out for being adjustable if you need it as well as being convertable to 1-point, and it's not much more expensive than the WPS sling.
Need a review on that Primary Arms 2X prism optic.
If you ever come across a SIERRATAC sling, I highly recommend trying one of those out. It has since replaced both my BFG and Magpul slings. Great video again as always!
I grew to hate the sierratac as soon as I used it for hunting/hiking, that stupid sling self loosens so easily it's absurd
I like mine. I have 2 of them.
great video, short and to the point
The TAB gear carbine sling is really nice too. And it's pretty inexpensive. I've used them for several deployments, and they hold up well. It is a regular 2pt with slider and bungee.
Not padded, but its really not for a 10.5lb+ rifle anyway. They make a PRS sling that's padded and pretty nice too. It's alot like the old Vickers heavy sling. Anything over about 20-22lbs I want a biathlon sling anyway, so I don't run it in NRL anymore.
The carbine sling is nice because it holds the rifle close enough to your body to easily use your hands for other administrative tasks (like most of us do 99.999% of the time). The bungee has just enough give if you need to 'punch out' with the rifle, should the need arise.
Best part is the sling with sewn in qd's is like $35 if you are military or LEO.
Sly tactical tr-1 and tr-2 are definitely my favorites right now but are pricey around $140-150 each after shipping and tax
Oh wow! 🤯 what you did with the sb3 brace is genius!?!
I like my advanced gunslinger armament hybrid sling, bit awkward at first but once setup properly it's very good for what it does.
I just hook the QD butt stock connector to the right shoulder of my body armor with a single sling. It's not looped around anything, and I can drop my firearm and it hangs vertically, pointed down, with the grip near my right hand to pick up immediately. It frees up both hands while still having your weapon immediately ready.
Something I need is a good sling for number two a simple two point will do just fine haven't picked one out yet
Check out Lunar Concepts that’s what I use. Simple, durable, inexpensive
This is the weak link in my systems. I'm rockin' the AR Stoner slings, from Midway USA. Need to step up my game! Thanks for the share!!
Great video, weird drone shot lol
The ejection at 1:15 was beautifully consistent
I'll add the flatline to my amazon wishlist. I like the look and I like the function. I have one of the old USGI M14 slings on my fighting rifle, mostly because It's what I have on several of my other rifles and I'm quite familiar with it. But for what's ostensibly supposed to be the rifle I'm willing to trust my safety to. Compromising on something like the sling just for aesthetics isn't really smart.
That, and it's a 20" with a Comp M4 on it. And I still plan on getting a light and maybe a magnifier. She's not the lightest girl and the padding would be nice.
Lol Amazon user
I just dropped the green and bought a WPS sling and it serves my needs well. I call it the "gucci" sling. 👍
It's honestly really good. No stupid adjustment slider to mess with and the bungee section makes for easy target acquisition from the at rest length.
Nola designs slings are a great sling for the price. 30-35 bucks for a quick adjustment American made sling plus they are super cool people.
I really wanted to love the ESD. The pull tab is fantastic. The fact that it can be stored onto itself is a plus, but the lack of padding is a no go for me.
You could some right?
@@j.yossarian6852 Assuming you mean add padding? Why the added cost when the Slingster is roughly the same price and already comes with padding?
I really like the bfg vickers sling I have
“we can’t print more 300 black out” … not yet 😎😎
I got one of the new onward research slings (garand thumbs company) the adjustment method on it is the smoothest I’ve tried yet. It’s narrow like the vtac and i haven’t carried a rifle with it for a long time yet but hey it’s looks good! 😂
Literally just a Wellsmade sling branded as Onward Research
@@seankoester1145 are those the meme slings? I never got one of those , i guess if i had I’d know that 😂
I have a sling made by NoLa Nobody Designs. It’s not quick adjust, it’s quick release. Set it up with your first sling length, and then you can quickly release it if you need to.
Big fan of my black camo by Flatline. I have a few of their pistol brace straps and they're of good quality.
Absolutely love my ESD sling I got recently
Although I haven't carried it on long hikes so I'm sure my neck won't agree when that finally happens 😂
Great video…thank you.
Highly recommend warhorse concepts slings. They're handmade to order in USA and I've never had an issue with them. Well made.
Bought 1 for my AK, liked it so much got another for my AR.
Also they come in fun joke patterns.
Another +1 for WHC. Very happy with mine so far. They have padded and 1” unpadded slings
Can highly recommend, I have 3 on 2 ARs and an AK. Also have the SBA3 strap replacement. Miami Vice never looked so good! 😎
I really like the Sly Tactical TR1/TR2 sling (TR2 is just TR1 with a pad), but they're spendy af.
Your sling videos are to you what water bottle reviews are to kit badger.
I have never been disappointed in a sling until I got the Haley Strategic one lol
thanks for the info,
Just got a Geissele sling for about 40 bucks when it was on sale very nice and high quality
Frank Proctor Sling. Simplest and best I've used. They've got padded and unpadded versions and are super affordable.
I’ve heard this many times. I like franks mentality, he seems to follow that KISS principle.
The self-stowage feature of the Proctor sling is what really sells it for me. No additional bands needed and it gets the whole sling tight against the side of the gun
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But how will it work if both mounting points aren't on the same side?
@@onpsxmember You can try to run the rear of the sling across the buttpad and stow as normal. But with the way the Proctor attaches to the rifle with 550 loops, the rear attachment would likely migrate back to your inboard side anyway so it might be better to just attach both ends on the same side. The Proctor is so thin anyway that having it inboard at the rear doesn’t interfere with shouldering at all
Preciate ya man!!!!
Take a look at Advanced Gunslinger HIT sling, its a two or single point sling that is always attached to the rifle between 2 point to single point transition.
I’m a big fan of the Viking tactics mk1. Clay Martin recommended it years ago. No complaints here.
Tier1 citizens slings are pretty awesome. Uses a bungee cord sling affordable and has a good balance between retention and freedom of movement
Totally agree- its minimalist yet excellent functionality
Try the Warrior Poet Rifle sling it’s got some pretty sweet features the other slings do not have like a quick release buckle and bungee chord.
Citizen Gear Co makes some solid slings. Plus there’s patterns of all types.
Slickster is my favorite...I really like the GBRS also
that Boo patch is so cool
I'm sure you've heard of Snake Eater slings, usually running around $40 for a very light, unpadded sling. Seemed quite similar to the Ed sherman
My VTAC has held up pretty well.
i like the ferro sling and the gbrs group sling. what i run on all my rigs
I had the two to one Haley sling and I didn’t like it either. Ended up going back to the BFG sling as it just worked better and smoother.
Without adding 'best for what' or the setup, all the comments get one nowhere when all are 'xyz sling' + worked well, no issues.
Rifle + weight + connection point location + usage. Someone who is prone a lot will like a different sling than someone that has to march forever and is looking for maximum comfort and it not loosening. So there has to be some sort of process to test them.
Centrafuge sling is pretty much my favorite
Have to ask, how are you liking the Sig 716? Also, what kind of accuracy have you been getting?
I am still trying to get used to the whole tactical sling and making it work best for me. I am more used to the old GI canvas sling( still have 2. one on my Finnish M39 and another on my Marlin bolt action 22) and shooting aid slings.
What was the stock/pistol brace on the first rifle? Same for the sight? Really digging it, might want to pick one up for my upcoming build.
Trex has become my favorite sling for now.
Had a D3 thought it was over engineered and superfluous for general rifle use. Maybe suited more for a “cqb” dedicated gun smaller than a mk18. SLK works for me, but I use it on a wwsd at the extreme ends. No bunches and pad is in the right place 85% of the time.
I use a frank proctor sling on my minimalist ar pistol
I would love to see you assess the WPS sling
The arbor arms dual adjust with their sling pad in unreal. If you do any sort of PRS shooting an/or hiking it is king. While also being able to quickly remove the pad if you want to go down to the stripped down bare nylon sling if you want to swap to a lower profile. I also enjoy the lunar concepts padded contour sling, trex is one of my favorites for SBRs, and the defense mechanisms slings. I personally cannot stand a non padded sling. Anyone that says otherwise has never walked/hiked/or done anything with a gun on them for a long period of time, much less an 8+ hour course.
Really teasing us with the 8T review lately…
Try Lunar Concepts contour. It’s my favorite
GBRS second best sling is rock solid. You should review it
Please do a video on best 'Tactical Bicycle Gloves' for running firearms.
I'd be interested in hearing about the Forward Controls Design two point eventually. Company has a good reputation and it's quite affordable.
I’ve got one, and I really like it. No cam lock like a slingster, just grab the nylon pull tab and go. Super easy to adjust, but doesn’t adjust without your input. No padding at all on it though, and pretty thin nylon. Not a big deal to me, but if you really like padding that might be a dealbreaker.
5:17 look at that chunky pst! Do you have any experience with ching slings as a comparison? I've been running The Wilderness ching along for awhile and I like it. But I think one of these would be a excellent choice for me.
I actually love the GBRS sling. It has replaced all of my slingsters. But the price is hard to swallow
So. May I ask? Is there a best of best vibes you get from the slings. As in IF slings were a MODULAR style component what are the best or most needed parts. Personally, I rather have the O'Neil hands relaxed on the p90. I too regret getting the Farscape Peacekeeper pistol(the laser sight/pointer cost $400).😪
I've owned sooo many slings, vtac or Arbor arms are the best way to go imo
Tried most slings on the market and I've found the sierratac is the best