The AWD-i shines when you treat the car like a FWD model. The rear motor may not be as powerful but it does enough work to relieve some load of the front wheels. That helps significantly. Yes, this generation of RAV4s struggle with diagonals but with a bit of momentum I have seen this car do wonders! Snow and sand arent a problem for it either.
When you have momentum you can make it with 4x2. We buy 4x4's because we don't want to risk getting stuck where there is no cellphone coverage and you have to call expensive offroad recovery.
@@fatihbilgeylmaz3966 As I said this car is way more capable than a regular 4x2 one. It was never meant to be a serious offroader, just enough to take you through snow storms and to a camping spot with insane fuel economy.
I've seen roller test on this car. I can buy this car if I go to places I've been before and I know for sure that it won't rain. There are some roads I get from gps. Out in the wildernes you never know when the conditions are serious or not. You need 4x4 system when you stuck, not when you are travelling 5-10 km per hour. Once there was a concrete bed river crossing with 30-40 cm of muddy water, I couldn't cross it with my Volvo S40 4x2. With this car I also wouldn't cross the same place. The wilderness expoloring world is not seperated into two categories as serious and not serious offroading. There are some grey areas in between when you go out to the mountain roads not regularly maintained. For the fuel economy; we need to add battery cost, second hand value and the price we pay extra for the hybrid when we buy. It might still be economical though
My son had a RAV4 hybrid vehicle. He ended up trading it in for a standard RAV4. The hybrid RAV4 gas mileage is good for an SUV by US standards and has all the virtues of the gas-only RAV4. As with all Toyota hybrid AWD systems, it's useless in the upper midwest of the US in winter even with proper snow tires.
The newer ones are better and it’s more a aggressive. I put wr g4 all weather tires on my gfs hybrid rav 4 se 2019 model and it’s been great in snow and rain. It’s Texas though so it was more ice than snow but never felt scared
@@godzy49 i asked the dealer and they said: "A necessary condition for the installation of new software is the error of the old one, which causes a demonstrable dysfunction of the system. If the vehicle does not show any fault, the control unit software is not changed. The service information you provide is Toyota's internal information and the software change removes certain specific drive behaviors that may occur under specific conditions. Only a very small number of customers may encounter the problem. To date, we do not register any customer to report this phenomenon. The only recommended change for your vehicle is the navigation update."
Toyota hybrids are probably the best cars on the road with internal combustion engine but off the road they are simply not., rav4 in USA has a petrol version with proper awd system as good as Subaru. 👍
So. I drive my 2017 hybrid and it is marvelous, unique and if people wouldn't drive that rough and primitive like maniacs, this extreme reliable super tec car, makes gasoline savings possible, no other conventionally car type even diesels, can't mess with, thats for sure guys. And the other qualities are extreme excellent as well. We talking about a 2.5 li wich is that quite as can be. It's decently suspended compared, to those typical German average pseudo "sport suspensions " who ride like crab and killing after time your bag. I got real in the summer a average from 4,7 liters and in the winter 5,8 that's caused from the coldness and bad street conditions and more energy grabbing rubbers tires. People, who got this awesome Rav4 2017 would be absolutely stupid, if they don't drive it until it is falling apart, this is maybe for someone people a real challenge who is falling at first apart hahaha.
@@JWORLDKINGOh so you drive a pavement princess, it’s not bad to baby your car but why do you have to rag on people who want or have to drive through rough terrain? Besides if you get the gas model instead of your hybrid it performs much much better.
Yes! However in winter this car easily drive on snow. 15cm no problem. Also had funny moment then other front wheel drive cars cant drive up the icy hill and my rav drove up it easily.
@@lkraujelis While drivn is ok, but some times the system decides to not send power to the rear wheels... not very sure why.. with the sofware update I believe it is partially solved. In any case a little bit of momentun helps on this situation as it forces the rear motor to work. Also sometimes is needeed to floor the gas pedal to get enught torque to the rear motor as there is not a phisical connection between two axles
When are you posting this new video?? I would really like to see the new update as we have the 2018 hybrid and the awd system has done a great job in the snow even on a steep incline.
The AWD-i shines when you treat the car like a FWD model. The rear motor may not be as powerful but it does enough work to relieve some load of the front wheels. That helps significantly. Yes, this generation of RAV4s struggle with diagonals but with a bit of momentum I have seen this car do wonders! Snow and sand arent a problem for it either.
Agree! I could have passed those places with a bit of speed easily. However it’s is more interesting doing it slowly ;)
@@lkraujelis appreciate your tests, looking forward to seeing more!
When you have momentum you can make it with 4x2. We buy 4x4's because we don't want to risk getting stuck where there is no cellphone coverage and you have to call expensive offroad recovery.
@@fatihbilgeylmaz3966 As I said this car is way more capable than a regular 4x2 one. It was never meant to be a serious offroader, just enough to take you through snow storms and to a camping spot with insane fuel economy.
I've seen roller test on this car. I can buy this car if I go to places I've been before and I know for sure that it won't rain. There are some roads I get from gps. Out in the wildernes you never know when the conditions are serious or not. You need 4x4 system when you stuck, not when you are travelling 5-10 km per hour. Once there was a concrete bed river crossing with 30-40 cm of muddy water, I couldn't cross it with my Volvo S40 4x2. With this car I also wouldn't cross the same place. The wilderness expoloring world is not seperated into two categories as serious and not serious offroading. There are some grey areas in between when you go out to the mountain roads not regularly maintained. For the fuel economy; we need to add battery cost, second hand value and the price we pay extra for the hybrid when we buy. It might still be economical though
You can find an explanation about i-awd in Toyota forum. Rear motor works in full power when car drives faster than 5km/h.
You need 4x4 when you stuck
My son had a RAV4 hybrid vehicle. He ended up trading it in for a standard RAV4. The hybrid RAV4 gas mileage is good for an SUV by US standards and has all the virtues of the gas-only RAV4. As with all Toyota hybrid AWD systems, it's useless in the upper midwest of the US in winter even with proper snow tires.
Good point, now if I would take new Rav I would go for petrol. However hybrid have much more power and that is a bit sad to lose it.
The newer ones are better and it’s more a aggressive. I put wr g4 all weather tires on my gfs hybrid rav 4 se 2019 model and it’s been great in snow and rain. It’s Texas though so it was more ice than snow but never felt scared
Hello. Have you got your AWD system updated? There is an update... It will provide more power to the rear motor. It is CP-001152T-TME
No, no updates. Havent heard about it. Dealer didnt say anything as well
@@lkraujelis Use that number an insist to the dealer. They should do it..
@@godzy49 i asked the dealer and they said: "A necessary condition for the installation of new software is the error of the old one, which causes a demonstrable dysfunction of the system. If the vehicle does not show any fault, the control unit software is not changed. The service information you provide is Toyota's internal information and the software change removes certain specific drive behaviors that may occur under specific conditions. Only a very small number of customers may encounter the problem. To date, we do not register any customer to report this phenomenon.
The only recommended change for your vehicle is the navigation update."
Toyota hybrids are probably the best cars on the road with internal combustion engine but off the road they are simply not., rav4 in USA has a petrol version with proper awd system as good as Subaru. 👍
Yes quality very good. However fuel consumption a bit disappointing:)
Are simply the best
So. I drive my 2017 hybrid and it is marvelous, unique and if people wouldn't drive that rough and primitive like maniacs, this extreme reliable super tec car, makes gasoline savings possible, no other conventionally car type even diesels, can't mess with, thats for sure guys. And the other qualities are extreme excellent as well. We talking about a 2.5 li wich is that quite as can be. It's decently suspended compared, to those typical German average pseudo "sport suspensions " who ride like crab and killing after time your bag. I got real in the summer a average from 4,7 liters and in the winter 5,8 that's caused from the coldness and bad street conditions and more energy grabbing rubbers tires. People, who got this awesome Rav4 2017 would be absolutely stupid, if they don't drive it until it is falling apart, this is maybe for someone people a real challenge who is falling at first apart hahaha.
@@JWORLDKINGOh so you drive a pavement princess, it’s not bad to baby your car but why do you have to rag on people who want or have to drive through rough terrain? Besides if you get the gas model instead of your hybrid it performs much much better.
Not a bad car with a terrible all-wheel drive system
Yes! However in winter this car easily drive on snow. 15cm no problem. Also had funny moment then other front wheel drive cars cant drive up the icy hill and my rav drove up it easily.
@@lkraujelis Even such a four-wheel drive is better than fwd or rwd. I also have a rav4, but with a diesel engine.
@@lkraujelis While drivn is ok, but some times the system decides to not send power to the rear wheels... not very sure why.. with the sofware update I believe it is partially solved. In any case a little bit of momentun helps on this situation as it forces the rear motor to work. Also sometimes is needeed to floor the gas pedal to get enught torque to the rear motor as there is not a phisical connection between two axles
Watch driving sports tv and he’ll tell you it only tray kicks in at low speeds
Did software update at the dealer. Need to test again now ;)
When are you posting this new video?? I would really like to see the new update as we have the 2018 hybrid and the awd system has done a great job in the snow even on a steep incline.
Entonces no es 4x4
This is pathetic. Stop making "AWD" cars with open diffs.