Sonic CD - Dubious Depths - All Time-Zones - Full Music Restoration [HD] ( R2 / Ridicule Root)
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0:00 Present
4:02 Past
6:20 Bad Future
9:35 Good Future
where was the past version gotten from?
@@ender64yeahthatguy fan-made, but it is pretty accurate to what it might have been
Well done!
i feel like i've seen you in a comment section before
Alexa angelfox my dad was a sega worker and I can confirm all music is the same basically except past
Fun fact: Sonic CD was originally planned to be a Sega CD port of Sonic the Hedgehog until it became it's own project, due to this some levels have similarities with one another. Green Hill Zone = Palmtree Panic. Marble Zone = Dubious Depths. Spring Yard Zone = Collision Chaos. Labyrinth Zone = Tidal Tempest. Starlight Zone = Stardust Speedway. Scrap Brain Zone = Metallic Madness. It is said that Dubious Depths was scrapped because it's slow-paced similar to Marble Zone.
Final Zone = Final Fever
I think wacky workbench is the only original zone
@@natelederpand quartz quadrant
With how far R2 made it into development (Getting into the ending movie, lots of art and music, having one of the special stages based off it) I prefer to think that it was cute due to memory concerns. Besides, Labyrinth was slow too, and they still made Tidal Tempest, with all that work done, why wouldn't they just rework R2's level design to be more fast paced?
@@Potatoboii2 time or memory constraints, maybe.
It's so weird to think that all this time, the D. A Garden theme was supposed to be used for R2.
Yeah this info has been available since 2011 btw
I didn't even know when I knew it was supposed to be for it. Used to listen to the way how it sounds.
@@loweni7460 I remember reading somewhere it was supposed to be for the gf though
@@StudioMetroProductions That was a misunderstanding its actually for the present
Honestly, the theme always sounded like it belonged in a stage to me. This is just final validation to me
My dream as a Sonic CD fan is coming true! Thank you for your wonderful works!
There's a new dream, To have Christian Whitehead and of course sonic team to recreate dubious depths on modern sonic cd origins and mobile
@@gerardo_contreras As well as Desert Dazzle! Mercury Mine is probably just an early name for Quartz Quadrant though.
Ahem. Modders exist, we don’t need it to be canon
@@gerardo_contreras I guess you probably meant the Sonic Mania team. I don't want Sonic Team working on anything classic Sonic related...
@@asmodeus58XXmercury mines is sadly a hoax and so is prototype 409
We can extend sonic cd by 3 whole levels now. I'm talking about this, desert dazzle, and final fever.
Don't we have Relic Ruins too? Granted, that's probably very similar to Dubious Depths. We could always use a snow level i guess?
@@AlphaAurora Relic Ruins is not an official zone.
@@AlphaAurora Relic Ruins was the fan name for R2 before Naoto Oshima confirmed that it was going to be named Dubious Depths.
desert dazzle and final fever werent in the original game then scrapped, they were pitched by the taxman as bonus zones for the 2011 remake
There's also mercury mines
I'm surprised a team of sprite artists and modders haven't come together to make the best R2 Dubious Depths mod for the Sonic CD Decomp yet.
You know these mockups kinda match how I feel the stage may have looked like. I also feel like it might have had above and below ground sections. As for the sketches of the rainbow waterfalls, I wonder if that was planned for the good future? I think we're getting closer to something here, but I admire the effort that was put into this playlist, this almost feels like it could be the real DDZ.
the rainbow waterfall could have been for wacky workbench's good future and it could have also been a prototype for dubious depths' good future
@@Starzzed I think it makes more sense if it was Quartz Quadrant instead of Wacky Workbench.
Certainly this R2 zone would be pretty similar to Marble Zone, so your sayings are kind of accurate.
@@BlueFrenzyEspecially since most of the zones in CD are similar in nature to Sonic 1’s zones. The only one that isn’t referenced in any way is Marble Zone. It’s accurate.
@@TheOfficial_YoItSJaKe4091 not to mention it's R2, meaning it was supposed to come between PPZ and CCZ, which matches the order of zones in Sonic 1 (Green Hill, Marble, Spring Yard)
Palmtree Panic 🌴🥥
Dubious Depths 🌈🌋
Dessert Dazzle 🌵🐂
Collision Chaos ⭐🎰
Tidal Tempest 🌊💧
Quartz Quardrant 💎🪴
Mercury Mine ☄🪙
Wacky Workbench 👷🪑
Catalyst City 🛣🏢
Stardust Speedway 🤖🌙
Metallic Madness 🏭😈
Final Fever 🤖♾
Catalyst City?
And Relic Ruins?
@@harleylikesddlc1632 relic ruins is dubious depths
@@vanessaabalos1176 Mercury mine?
what's catalyst city?
I hope that one day we manage to restore this stage into the game then use these tracks along with them cause they sound official.
It's possible but without the texture files and such, it's really hard to restore. Not saying it's impossible, but hard since people would need the files to recreate it.
@Crvpt We hardly have a skeleton to even go on. We can surmise that the stage will have a forest background for its upper portion. We know it will have an underground similar to Marble Garden. We know the boss for the stage will be Eggman on a motorbike gizmo, probably similar in function to the drill car in Sonic 2. We know their will be baddies that will snatch at Sonic from the ground.
This is enough to get a general picture of the stage, but their are still details missing. We can only go off the brief clip of the ending that showed it off to us. I think it's more than possible to recreate the stage, but it would take some work.
with enough modding to the 2011 version, or, a rebuilt version in the most hard scenario, it will becoma a reality, even with DD and FF
thanks to time, programing somenthing like a function to time travel as intented for the unused final boss will not be that hard as it could be 12 years ago
@@Crvptunless the sonic community comes across a prototype build of the game between the dec 4th, 1992 and the may 10th, 1993 prototypes
for all we know we could build it from marble zone from sonic one after its supposed to be like it like how palm tree panic is like green hill zone
Bro, bad future did NOT need to go THAT hard 😭
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Present theme comes from the 'D.A Garden' Theme also known as 'Little Planet'
"B" Mix comes from Techno Power from the Sonic the Hedgehog Remix album.
"G" Mix comes from Sonic Stream from the Sonic the Hedgehog Remix Album.
"P" Mix is entirely fanmade
@Mortimer_RS We already know about the present theme since 2011 but everyone didn't care because of Jalex777 and his fakes, the good and future was ik front of our eyes since 1994 and for the past, we can try figure it out how it would sounded like thanks to the present theme which often take pieces of other timezones music
for a fan-made track, this sounds official!
Actually all of these tracks are official. The present version is the DA Garden theme in the final game but was actually supposed to be the present version of dubious depths. As for the others they were apparently found in various places and are also official.
@@ender64yeahthatguy all of these tracks are not official. The only official track is of course the present theme, which is labeled as "D.A Garden/Little Planet" in the 2011 remaster of Sonic CD. The rest of the songs heard in this compilation borrow elements from both "Sonic Stream" and "Techno power mix," which derive from the Sonic the Hedgehog Remix Album.
@@skudoblade i stand corrected.
@@skudoblade They're somewhat official in a sense (sonic stream and techno power mix) because they're remixes of the Bad future and Good futures of R2 and were composed by Masafumi these fan recreations just take elements from them
@skudoblade the only unofficial one is past
The others were found on old soundtracks and cds
I just realized something
Ridicule Root = R2
Dubious Depths = D2
R2-D2
😮
Nah, Palmtree Panic is literally called R1 in the games files and R3 for Collision Chaos and so on.
So the R doesn't relate to Ridicule Root.
@@milkandcereal3018 yeah, but it's still a sorta funny coincidence, no?
The R stands for rounds which were what would usually be called “zones” and the “acts” are zones, Sonic CD is weird.
@@sonicwhite91 Japan isn't the best with English heheh
Awesome, my main nitpick though is that the bad future sounds much like Techno Power Mix, and it shouldn't really, as yes, it has bits of R2's true bad future, but none of the Techno Power Mix zone leitmotifs sound like their in-game version, so it's only fair for R2 to have the same treatment.
Regardless, these themes are a bop and overall accurate to what R2 may have been.
i mean the techno power mix is the closes we have right now
@@ZeytinciDevleti yeah, but the leitmotifs of the zone themes used there sound much different compared to the actual ones
I've been listening to the Good Future track since discovering your channel! All of them are such good pieces, thanks again for your dedication and sharing!
Incredible, 10 years ago I was wondering about the lack of Sonic CD lost content, and I found
your channel today
With all the wonderful ideas coming out from the Community, I won't be surprised if there was enough content (Relic Ruins, Dubious Depths, Desert Dazzle, etc) to create a sorta spiritual successor to Sonic CD. I would be all for that. I strongly feel this "official" vs "non-official" discussion misses the mark on the point that really creative ideas are being made and I'm 1000000% for it.
The point is, it's cool! Who cares what's official? Triple Trouble 16 bit wasn't official and yet it's one of my new favorite games.
I couldn't agree more, which is why I love sonic DVD so much.
it literally does what you said it did.
despite being a mania hack, it is still in the spiritual concept of sonic cd.
here is a example czcams.com/video/0NpExY6U_MI/video.html
relic ruins and dubious depths are the same thing tho
@@hiddenboy007 doesn’t mean they have to be in a so called successor to cd, the names could just be references, like ridicule route ( another name for this stage) could be something completly different too
@@Kookie_13_ I didn't say they should be in a successor to cd, I just said that relic ruins and dubious depths are just different names to the same zone
Heh, imagine if they made it, like, on the other side of the planet and stuff. Maybe an adventure Amy was having in parallel to Sonic! Imagine she managed to break free shortly after getting kidnapped in Collision Chaos!
The theory is that it's supposed to be a Marble Zone counterpart (just like how PP, CC, TT, SS and MM are to other Sonic 1 zones), but it looks more like Jungle Zone from the Master System game.
Yeah it does look like jungle zone from the master system. Funny enough that level had vertical movement very similar to how some of CD’s levels are laid out.
I called it Lapis Leaf to fit the forest stage. You go there after you complete Palmtree Panic. In my version at least.
The fact that it switches from 5/4 to 4/4 to 7/4 throws me off completely and I love it!
Great work on the original mixes! I do feel they fit very well with the original music of the game and as remixes of “Little Planet”. The little zone mock-ups with the unused badniks and Eggman boss in tow are very cool as well.
The only gripe I have is that we may already have the good future version of this zone, as the wonderfully generically named “Sonic the Hedgehog - Remix”, an official album by the original Sonic CD music team which has various mixes and original compositions for the game’s soundtrack contains a song entitled “Sonic Stream”. This track shares various similarities with “Little Planet” including the same chord progression and ambient vibe.
Wow, a good future theme that isn’t not considered better than the bad future theme by everyone ever! Great job!
Well, that's what I call dedication.
Great job!
Bad future goes hard as fuck
But is in labyrinth of all places? Look at the outer backround its yellow
No doubt, I really like that it sure does indeed, the dark laugh, with the known type of style of Bad futures to be present give it so much authentic sound and vibes!
We just gonna ignore that 7:38 sounds too much like Wacky Workbench BF?
Edit: I also realized that in 8:10 there is a creepy robot voice just like in Wacky Workbench BF
Getting major Kirby vibes from the Good Future mix. I love it!
Wow! We got the name AND a mock-up of the soundtrack in the first two months of 2023!
I always thought Little Planet (D.A. Garden) would be more good-future with the birds and stuff.
Now, to spitball ideas.
Good Future could definitely use the rainbow waterfalls. The antlions could use a middle-shatter platform for their floors (seen in the credits) and, they could have a slow downward slope to the antlion. By the way, they could be destroyed, perhaps leading to a hidden spot, and just like wacky workbench but much less secretive, one of the spots of that hole could lead to the generator. The level itself could be full of hidden tunnels, and regular tunnels, because of the crumbling land and burrowbots and worm snakes akin to Mystic Cave.
Despite all of this, an age-old mystery can still linger on…!
these are good songs to listen to while eating a container of cream cheese
Le Epiche Urne™️
Can confirm
Ok, now it's time for someone (maybe me, but I'm lazy) else to actually do a mod, right?
Obviousely man
or SEGA to add it in Sonic Origins Plus, eh? xD
@@temixmixto lol, SEGA will not do it, it's a fan job =(
@@temixmixto The thing about it is that SEGA most likely trashed many things related to the level and I don't think they would ask a fan for music tracks. Plus I don't think they would entirely rebuild one level to a game, they would need to add more levels to make it worth doing.
I’m not the best at modding and I have never touched sonic cd modding before, but I’m ok at pixel art, and can do a tiny bit of programming so I’ll give it a shot
Sprite work you made for the past rendition are the best imp, although I think the bad future and good future could use more work, the present is ok.
These all sound so amazing :D
Those present and past backgrounds look so good although the futures need a bit of work done someone should make those into a mod for the complete sonic cd experience while we wait for the prototype to drop
The good future has a Zen Dynamics kinda ost theme to it. Zen Dynamics is an old old doom 2 miniwad from nearly 15 years ago. Worth playing.
We got all of the themes now! Very nice.
LEGENDS NEVER DIE BABYYYYY
I just commented this to say I really like these designs of what Dubious depths/R2/Ridicule root could have been! Keep up the goof work mate! :D
I don't blame them for wanting to delete a level based on Marble zone.
And I do blame, Damn!!!
2:01 when you’re having a great day and then you start remembering
2:04 after remembering you ignore it and continue on about your day
Past: Relic Ruins
Present: Dubious Depths
Bad Future: Hushed Hollow
Good Future: Graceful Garden
Although we have hardly any idea what the zone looks like, I'm glad we at least know what it sounded like.
Under our noses the entire time
Very nice, hope one day this leads to a level mod.
DAMN THAT BAD FUTURE REMIX SLAPS JUST AS GOOD AS THE STARDUST BAD FUTURE MUSIC
god bless you for making the beta loops! i was scared they wouldn't be included
Really nice recreations! keep up the great work and you will go far one day!
After so many years! Finally!
Every thing is coming together now
Such a great track! ❤
Great Job!
bad future sound like a dark industrial rave club! love it!
This is insane
Good Future is so beautiful!
Oh no, the Bad Future future is my new earworm. Thank you for this, btw.
'Ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..!'
Here was I, since yesterday, wondering how the other time based versions of Dubious Depths music would sound.
Now guess what I found on my video recommendation list? Heh.
Also, Bad Future theme is so badass.
bad future i cant stop listening to it
My timeline of Sonic CD:
-Palmtree Panic
-Dubious Depths
-Collision Chaos
-Tidal Tempest
-Desert Dazzle
(Sonic falls to a cave)
-Quartz Quadrant
-Wacky Workbench
-Stardust Speedway
-Metallic Madness
-Final Fever
Honestly i never noticed but the animal sounds make so much sense now, since the level is basically ruins in a forest
There is an album called Sonic the Hedgehog - Remix that consists of remixes of tracks of Sonic CD's original Japanese soundtrack.
Some of Dubious Depths ~ Bad Future can be heard in Techno Power Mix and Sonic Stream is based on Dubious Depths ~ Good Future.
Holy
Shit
Literally the day after you posted this is the day I started watching videos talking about this level
This is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing. ❤
The present is so surreal
Will you ever make a concept for the us version of the present good future and bad future
This has been in my mind, while there is no way we'll ever find the true us versions most likely cause there were none, that wont stop the community. this zone might have already been made cancelled by the time it came for the us songs to be made, so we'll never see anything official like that, and if there was, i doubt we'll be able to find out what songs belong. if there were any.
This actually slaps.
pretty stellar
That would be good future music in dubious depth by sonic cd staffs that you missed about it just see R2 wiki
dude, this music sound legit like the real deal
YOOOO this is so cool
Did you guys base this off from the "sonic the hedgehog remix" that was released years ago? Some of it sounds pretty similar but a bit touched up! Either way keep up the great work!
the concept of R2 boss being a chase sequence is actually good
Sounds like metal sonic race
@@shitpostmania6061Maybe it was reused for the Metal Sonic boss?
@@Spongyboi897 maybe.
Honestly,if Dubious Depths didnt get scrapped,i would get the bad future on purpose just to listen to the bad future theme,its a fucking banger
The interesting thing here is that the ruins are green, but Idk if that is just the artist's interpretation. My interpretation personally is that the ring statue in wacky workbench is from here/a relic from the ruins put there.
It's just speculation, but the song Brand New World from the same album seems to have bits of R2's good future at 0:07 and 00:46.
The unused loop in Dubious Depths Present sounds Creepy.
That Bad Future slaps!!
The past is really well made! Did it use genesis instruments? Because in the og game the past tracks used genesis instruments.
Thanks man
7:39 sonic cd 6290 mix!?!
Present: Dupious Depths Past: Marble Bad Future: Red Mountain (I guess) Good Future: Stardust Speedway (I guess)
Alexy really wants me to beg sega for this zone back. If this zone actually came back, since it is linear, in my opinion this would be the best zone
this is rlly cool
4:04 i like the past version of this zone i wonder how it will turn out if this zones wasnt scrapped for the final game and how it will sound in the us soundtrack
It would sound exactly the same.
i mean the other timelines good future and bad future
Bad future got me dancing
ayooo amazing work
Dubious Depths good future is past Chemical Plant Zone confirmed
??
Holy shit, this is awesome!
I like the laugh during the Bad Future.
Sonic Cd's Marble zone XD, actually that's it but nevermind :v, also the bad future mix is awesome
nice
The "P" version by Coltrex is a lot better. It sounds a lot more in-line with the rest of the past themes in Sonic CD.
Otherwise, nice job
100% agree, even it uses the Soundfont
I will forever call this zone Relic Ruin
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can we get separated versions with loop?
If R2 is based on Marble Garden then what is Quartz Quadrant based on? Quartz and Marble are even similar. /:
bro, good future needed to have the rainbow waterfalls
N i c e .
The B mix is fire
dubious depths good future must be one of the best good futures😶🌫
2:11 The funny thing is that the level has nothing to do with the anime version that appeared in the game (in the credits)
Aren’t good futures supposed to be Technology and Nature co-existing in harmony and not just nature?
I love rrally mucho your channel, cause this Is my favorite game of Sonic!!!!
Can you put a heart to comment please ?? 😃😃🥺🥺
❤ is this good enough?