Yamaha MT07 vs Suzuki SV650X | Visordown road test
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- We pit Yamaha's updated MT-07 against Suzuki's new SV650X...
Read the full review here: www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/new-bike-test-yamaha-mt-07-v-suzuki-sv650x
Can we have more engine noise, and less club music?
Thank you , I still think that a Sv650x vs XSR700 is a more suitable duel
thresh86 as an SV owner.. sv will lose. I agree with Laura when she says it's a poor attempt at the modern retro
It's not exactly a soccer match :D I think that both of them are not exactly Bonneville material but that's what you're gonna get if you take a good modern all around bike and put some 70's touches.
It's hard to fault a bike like an SV650 if you're interested in this category but I respect your opinion.
thresh86 i think I replied to someone else about this. The SV650x is not that different from a normal sv, just has adjustable suspension, clip ons, a bikini fairing, small screen and a better looking seat.
Meanwhile the xsr has quite a big aesthetic change, even the dash is different. Theyre quite distinguishable from each other that you wouldnt think theyre related
I don't think that a cheap headlight and the remove of some cover could really differentiate it like Suzuki does with the SV , by having a new fairing, color, small screen,vintage seat, clip on and the possibility of adding LED signals , fog lights and Yoshi cover. Still, the test could be better by having these two than the bikes mentioned before.
As a mentalist I can earnestly say that Ian does not own an SV... If he did it would put him in the 2% of the world's population who actually are boastful about his or her's poor decisions making. Especially when making a purchase. Most will replace the bike with the one they really want and then rag that which they had. On the other end of the scale someone who can't get out of their particular purchase for whatever reason might choose to justify why the other vehicle is better by throwing all sorts of characteristics into the mix. That's how the subconscious obtains what it actually wants.
i'd take the v-twin any day. Also the sv has great fuel efficiency (twin spark), reliability (v-strom legend) and the take off assist is great in heavy traffic (minimal clutch effort, 2nd butterfly valve opens to stop stalling). I commute so my preference is obvious. Also the x version has preload front and rear. Thats my 2 cents worth. Thanks for the review.
I own a 2017 SV and have recently ridden the 2017 MT-07 for 3 days, for many hours each day, to see why many reviewers say it is better than the SV. I had to find out for myself. I can now say with certainty that the SV is a much better bike. I did NOT prefer the MT's engine. Yes, it feels like it has slightly more torque, but at too low a rev which makes the bike feel unnecessarily jerky when you're just trying to go slow or be smooth. The seat is horribly hard and makes you slide into the tank. (The 2018 MT seat at least looks flatter than the 2017 MT seat.) The mirrors are absolutely useless. The front end handling is too light and the bike moves around too much at low speeds, such as when you're in stop and go traffic. The SV is just a more refined bike overall in handling, power delivery, comfort, and build quality. I'm so happy I didn't buy the MT. I don't know about the 2018 MT. But based on my experience with the 2017 model, I would definitely choose a 2018 non-X SV over a 2018 MT. (I don't care for the low handlebars on the SV650X.)
Stop trying to convince yourself you brought the better bike.
To quote Biggie Smalls "If you don't know, now you know."
I bought an SV650a but before I bought it I rented an MT-07 for a day. Although as you say it feel quicker, it's got more cc's and is quite a bit lighter, I didn't like the MT. It crunched into first gear from neutral and the fan cut in at every traffic light. The SV is a beautiful all round machine with that great V-twin engine. The SV is quick, frugal, ultra reliable, and it looks like a motorbike.
Some prefer the "jerky", aggressive engine, and modern looks of the MT07. Others will prefer the smooth, classy looks of the SV650. I tried them both 2 months ago, loved them both, but ended up choosing the MT07 because it suited more my "style". It all comes down to personal preference! :)
Carlos, I was really surprised after riding the MT-07. I thought either the other reviewers who preferred the MT didn't spend as much time riding the bike as I did to notice all the annoyances, or these things didn't bother them, or a little of both. But regardless, you are absolutely correct about personal preference. After this experience, I always keep that in mind when reading or watching motorcycle reviews. I won't be in the market for another bike any time soon. But when I am, I will definitely not buy a bike based on the review of others. I got lucky this time because I prefer the SV. Next time, I will find a way to test ride the bike beforehand (which is not easy to do in America, unless it's a Harley).
Seems the SV is a bike you potter around on a Sunday to enjoy yourself and the MT is the one you commit bike crime in London on.
The SV650x looks way better and probably rides better.
I think Laura is trying to hard to be young and cool and give a controversial opinion! Read an article from 44teeth that call the sv650 the best bike ever built. While I agree that's a bit of a stretch. The sv650 is a belting bike! How can it not be when it's still competitive now all these years on. And it's engine is brilliant. And although it may not have the advancements in suspension and brakes it still handles a dam sight better when pushing on. If you after a bike to look cool on to your mates then get the Mt. If you actually like riding a bike and want to push on or do the odd track day get the sv and discover why people rave about it and it had its own race series (that's not pretending Laura, it had its own race series how can that be pretend??!!)
Laura sux lol
The best bike ever built? We all know that isn't true.
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@@gosoku2771 suzuki must be smoking something then if they kept the engine going and sv going. hmmm they must be doing something right since people buy these and the price is fairly decent, not cheap but not expensive (used)
Just get the regular SV 650.
Sorry, but I outgrew Transformers after grade school. I want a bike that looks like a bike, so I'll pick the SV.
Also - V-Twin over parallel twin anytime.
agree imo i love the svx. thats why i bought one! Telling my age but dont like the looks of MT at all, the sv won my heart.
My thoughts exactly 🤔🔥
Can we have English subtitles for this video please
Can we have less whiners that cannot understand English??
For those who have English as a second/third language the clip does come with subtitles - no need to thank me.
when he says bakes he means bikes.
@UprightAllTheWay No, not really. It's just auto-generated caption that every clip can have, and it clearly also had a lot of trouble understanding him.
I am foreigner and i do 100 percent understand the accent and to be honest love it to bits.
Freeeeeeeeedooooooooom!
Braveheart? xD
Rainer W. ;) you damn right!
Nassim Djaba 😂
I hear Laura talk more about looks and styling, and the guy talk more about performance. Each showing their age. I would like to see a three-way review with the Street Triple.
I just got myself a gen 1 curvy SV and let me tell you, there is a reason why that engine has remained almost unchanged, because it’s bloody brilliant. I’d take the new SV any day. Not the X though, just looks a little strange to me
Sam Kent here here! I have a naked 2004 sv650, and it's a belting bike, plenty of torque and yes it's suspension isn't cutting edge but it handles brilliantly!! I think Laura is trying to hard to be cool and come up with a controversial opinion. I read an article not long ago by 44teeth calling the sv650 the best bike ever made!!!!
Both SVs look like their built from the scap bin.
I had both bikes at the Tail of the Dragon 🐉 🐉 318 turns in 11.6 miles. The SV will probably last longer but those are two great bikes and what a lovely assistant you have ;)
Is he rocking a mullet? Just checking...
Sv 650 x should not be compared to the mt07 the standard sv should have been used.
The x isnt that much different to the non x version tbh. It's not like it has improved suspension (although it is adjustable now). It's just a normal SV with clipons, a bikini fairing and a small screen and a better looking seat
I agree. The X version has lower bars and makes you reach forward a bit farther than the standard SV...a position the SV has never been about. The standard SV would've put the test riders in a more similar upright riding position and made the comparison a bit more even to judge(position and handling wise). Afterall, the SV was built and tested with the higher bars and upright seating position. The X version was obviously just thrown out to try and appeal to the hipster crowd...cafe style.
Anyway, looks are important, but we all know there's a lot more to a bike than looks. The SV has survived all these years because of this. I will say Suzuki could've tried a little harder in the styling dept tho. That hideous swing arm, and completely awful looking pipe and oil filter protruding out the front all willy nilly...its a shame.
@@gardenstateflatlandb a reach forward position the SV had never been about? Have you forgotten about the SV650S from the first 2 generations? They too had clip-ons and a reach forward position. I know because I used to own a 1999 SV650S!
Can we have subtitles due to his accent
I kind of prefer the look of the Suzuki, but the exhaust is awkward looking.
AkaAndyKnuckles doesn't matter if you're going to slap a racing exhaust on it
Mika Kusuma No, but these bikes are sold partly because they are cheap. A slip on is a better solution than a full exhaust in that respect.
SV650 looks almost identical to the Ducati Monster 797, including the exhaust. I don't think that's an accident. goo.gl/images/8cy1qq goo.gl/images/q9ZrY4
if people needed to choose which bike to buy based on just the looks then why do anyone need to watch review? they could just look at pictures and be done with it
horrible review in my opinion
How can you compare something that is supposed to be a cafe racer with an upright naked... Even a brain fart will tell you that you comparing apples with bananas not even pears. It's XSR Vs SV-X and MT07 Vs SV-A. So Lara should take her opinion along with this channel and stick to culinary arts such as meal review. And no I'm not bias towards SV. I'm a Buell/MV fanatic...
Great entertaining review, good to see comparisons from the different perspectives.
Nice review, enjoyed the style of the video
I have the gladius SV which apart from the name I adore. It's an obvious copy of the brutale so it's got a nice look to it too. The mt07 for me is a bit too blocky
I do quite like the aesthetics of the SV650X, very attractive machine.
Hi, im 1,81cm or 5'11" inch tall and affraid of being too big for the mt07. What do you think? I like her! Tkx!
Good review....Laura and Alan are a good combination....
I think a better comparison would have been the xsr700 and the Suzuki. That said there both good bikes. The Yamaha’s engine is more spirited but I’ve test rode the 650 x it she was fun to ride. I like the styling of both and if you had either bike you would be happy.
Poor review, focusing mainly on looks. Partly incomprehensible too (for those unfamiliar with Scottish accents).
I agree...didn't even finish watching.
I only understood Laura. Thank you Laura.
Todd Fisher indeed man
No offence love but you don't know what you're talking about. The SV650x is in a class of its own in terms of looks. And the power is ridiculous for a 650.
Did you do the MT10 SP review mate???
Why there are no road shoukders in UK?
Close to my house ,very convenient... I love Alan!!!!
Amazing that a bike mag is putting out videos showing really poor road positioning. Lucky they didn't get taken out on those right handers!
And, anyone who says they can't understand the accent is a muppet! Try listening.
Sv650x beautiful smooth engine with modern cafe looks. Omg 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍. So much class. A proper motorcycle.
Also, I don't know about price but I kinda like better the new Honda CB650R.
Hawkeye, is that you? lol
To me, the Suzuki doesn't look retro in the least. If they want a retro look, then why not take some styling clues from the 1973's Ducati 750SS. Could do a lot worse.
Should have been the XSR700 instead of the MT07 going up against the SV
If Suzuki brought out an sv1000x then it would be game changer, the Mt07 in the learner trim (660cc) makes sense, why would you get a mt07HO when the Mt09 kills it in every possible measure
Or a mt09 competitor, why mt10 with no wind screen, all that power to be uncomfortable at high speeds
Good relaxed video, easy to understand - nice one.
Suzuki generally seem to be struggling in their range.
There isn't much to inspire - a few decent GSXR's but nothing retro (which is odd given their huge back catalogue)
What are they saying?
What did he say?
We Aussie got easier accent than this dude...
and far worse grammar
Contact SC proudly we do
I need a translator to understand what the old guy was saying.
Ffs why cant you let us listen to the engine sound?..... why???
Please add subtitle... Because there are words that I/we cant understand what are you talking about, its like you're rapping or something we dont know
Mt looks ugly. Just to ve said it: The new SV engine has NOTHING in common anymore with the first gen SV. Also: I own a naked first gen SV. On the road numbers do not matter. Many cannot keep up.
Can I have some chips with that mullet.
What language do these people speaking?
I'm a Midwestern American and we speak the most clearly and with no accent (that's why many news reporters in the country are midwesterners) and I had no problem understanding these two...
Manpreet Singh I understood this too, though I’ve had to rewind a few times in previous episodes. This guy does have a heavy accent. Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, are these what you consider midwestern? ‘No accent’ is a broad brush to paint with. I’ve found southern type and Canadian/Maine accents in all of these ‘don’t-you-know’, well as next to no accent save for some expressions. If you’re thinking Colorado, Wyoming, same applies. I’m more northwest, and speak with little accent myself, save for in a bit of lingo.
There's no such thing as no accent.
Midwest has an accent stop being ridiculous. It all depends on education level.
It doesn't matter where you're from, you will have an accent according to someone from another place. You Midwestern people have an incredibly strong accent to anyone from Europe. You sound American!!
Honestly, as far as the average US accent, in the media you find that california, mainly the bay area, has what is commonly called "Television standard english" as in quite a few people in broadcast come from the area and are considered generally understandable. I like the english/Scottish speech though, it's fun and you have to listen to really understand. Most of all picking up on the idioms they use is great.
were they speaking english?
You need to demo the SVx, more than 20 minutes with those clipons is painful.
Great video----I agree with you Laura----but then I own an MT-07 and have never been a fan of Suzuki bikes. Thanks for the video--I subbed!
Good Vid, but why..... WHYYYYYYY .. this music?
Just stop making "reviews"
Closed caption people.
People who watch reviews want to hear the bikes not some shite music , for that I'm not subscribing
i think we would like to understand what is said in the video also..i mean you are putting it for ALL the people to see it so ALL must understand
Can we have less anti-climactic endings, please?
We need English translation
The SV650 looks like my shit took a shit, compared to the MT07
Great video, no problem with accents and Laura is hot.
Stop trying to get in her pants. she's a psychotic redheaded gypsy ..for fuck sake
Oh my beaks!
Subtitles available ?
Incoming Scottish accent comments.....
I know
It's predictable and boring
And it says a lot for the intelligence of those posting that they can't work out a slight accent
FFS!
And rightly so. If MCN wish to reach a global market, and not just Scotland and those Brits who can, just, understand Alan, then they are wrong to use him. A bit harsh, but true. This is an advert for MCN and they choose to use someone who is difficult to understand. Stupid.
Maybe not as stupid as saying it's MCN when it's Visordown perhaps?
Nigel Tabb Haaaaaaaaa. Surely he's trolling? Can't be that daft?
The new SV looks like an Evinrude motor with a fairing slapped onto it... so I like it a lot.
But yeah, the Yamaha is probably the better machine.
Its not. trust me. People mistake bad fueling combined with extremely upright position and a floaty suspension as feeling like its got more torque
the SV650 has a cult following and for good reason, its a bike that has worked great for 2 decades and easy to ride
I'm losing faith in humanity, its not hard to understand a Scottish accent.
For you Adam. Is the visoe just for Scots and some Brits? Really stupid decision to use Alan.
Im Portuguese, I think I understand English language and Scottish accent quite well. I didn't understand half he said. Tried with subtitles...it gets even worse! xD
I can't understand anything that the guy says . , Please use someone with a neutral English for your videos . Thanks
Are they speaking English?
Mexican I believe
Wow lady, never designed anything in ur life, and so easily and bluntly criticized such a marvelous piece of engineering😂 .
Great job 👏
Sv650 is THE BEST MOTORCYCLE
mt-07 is too tall for me. i'm 5'5 with 30inch inseam.
Sameeeeee... Im 5'2 and cant flat foot both side a bike with 785mm seat height.
Laura you need to lose weight. МТ-07 in danger!
Fuck off idiot
....and now same thing in English please. Up yer kilts!
Half the comments take the piss
just comparing rear swing arms alone, SV650 is a joke
A5 Kobe
Its not fashionable, but more than capable and a far better motor.
That SV is ugly!
yawn...
mt 07 the old suspention was shit , absolutley shocking , and none of you had the balls to say it , and your test riders !!!, front brakes went much better , and the passenger seat was loose on every one , sv old but solid bike
the mt is a sexy bike, the sv not so much. The mt beats it in every category really.
I mean, who doesn't like a bunch of plastic slapped on a mediocre machine?
Suzuki looks stale. They have to revamp the design.
Visordown could be an international reference if you just put someone that can speak understandable english
Dreadful.