How to Analyze Vertical Noise - Exposing Signal Integrity Myths - E2

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  • Be sure your oscilloscope doesn’t produce too much noise!
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    In this episode of Exposing Signal Integrity Myths, you will learn about vertical noise and what you can do to be sure it isn’t affecting your measurements. Even though vertical noise is technically not fixable, it is possible to measure around it.
    Understanding what noise is coming from your device versus what is coming from the oscilloscope is critical if you want a fully functional device. Vertical noise is often overlooked, but it can cause significant problems like amplitude measurement errors, waveform reconstruction uncertainty, timing errors and jitter, or undesirably “fat” waveforms.
    By the end of this episode, you will understand what it is that causes vertical noise, how you can check the noise floor of an oscilloscope, and how you can measure around it.
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    Exposing Signal Integrity Myths is hosted by Erin East. The video series dives into various misconceptions around oscilloscope signal integrity. In watching this series, you will learn about the important considerations for determining an oscilloscope’s true measurement quality. Understanding the system as a whole will give you visibility into the true performance of your device.
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Komentáře • 37

  • @KeysightLabs
    @KeysightLabs  Před 5 lety +2

    Get the free signal integrity eBook here: bit.ly/eBOOK_SigIntegrity

  • @6alecapristrudel
    @6alecapristrudel Před 5 lety +9

    Noise is just the universe getting angry when you try to look at things too closely.

    • @vladimirpain3942
      @vladimirpain3942 Před 5 lety

      Is that why my girlfriend is making noise for all the time?

  • @hdl454154
    @hdl454154 Před 5 lety +22

    Sadly, I can't get around noise at all, because I didn't win any Oscilloscope in the Wave and my China Scope has noise basically as a built in feature 😉

    • @we-are-electric1445
      @we-are-electric1445 Před 5 lety +2

      Just shows how the chinese see an opening in the market and fill it !

  • @naftilos76
    @naftilos76 Před 3 lety

    I like it when she says "Now that you know about noise..." . Nice!

  • @FrederSnorlax
    @FrederSnorlax Před 5 lety

    This was very informative and educational. Thank you.

  • @lateworm
    @lateworm Před 5 lety +4

    my god that was more information in 8 minutes than a 90 minute lecture

  • @victortorres2080
    @victortorres2080 Před 5 lety

    Hello, Erin
    Very professional your tutorials.

  • @fly-high-me
    @fly-high-me Před 5 lety +5

    Erin is so cool! Yeah Keysight too

  • @raymitchell9736
    @raymitchell9736 Před 5 lety

    I've used different scopes and you're right -- it is a hassle to measure around the vertical noise... Grrrr! as a firmware developer I occasionally work with the electronics at this level so the next time I'm facing this difficulty I'll try these tips to improve my measurements-- thanks for posting!

  • @oceansclub
    @oceansclub Před 5 lety

    Looking for interesting tech videos - found interesting tech videos and new crush, too much of a good thing :D

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom Před 5 lety +2

    Changing the probe to x1 instead of x10 reduces its usable bandwidth significantly, this may or may not be an issue depending upon what you are doing, people need to check their probes specs to know how that will effect their measurements.

  • @coltx64
    @coltx64 Před 5 lety +1

    gimme that keysight !

  • @Mr2Xri
    @Mr2Xri Před 3 lety

    Hello, could you make a video about floor noise (in whiteboard maybe) about how affects "the number of
    quantization levels that are needed to display at that offset"?.. it has to deal and with the trriger level maybe which is changed when the waveform is out of the center? Thanks for all the nice presented tutorials.

  • @prenticetyndall
    @prenticetyndall Před 5 lety

    Great video. Sibilance on her vocal recording is kicking, though. Otherwise, great work, Erin!

  • @farx4070
    @farx4070 Před 5 lety +1

    Hello, I love the video, gimme da scope

  • @RobeenaShepherd
    @RobeenaShepherd Před 5 lety +1

    Would using 1x rather than 10x add more load to the circuit? I guess it's a trade off at that point? (Another great video with a lot of TIL for me!)

  • @frankbuss
    @frankbuss Před 5 lety

    For repetitive signals a good way to eliminate much of the internal oscilloscope noise is to use the average sample mode, results in very sharp traces. But be careful if you average over too many samples and the input signal is not repetitive, then the signal doesn't look like what you see.

  • @artursmihelsons415
    @artursmihelsons415 Před 5 lety

    Some specific noise from probe and device under test can be eliminated by turning off unneeded equipment when sensitive measurements are taken.. ;)
    What's about noise from oscilloscope going back to probe and to the test device?
    Example, when testing transistor power amplifiers output cascade driver op.amp. with probe, especially non-inverting pin (but depends from schematic), in some cases, some oscilloscopes generates parasitic noises through probe, but amplifier doing his job and that noise goes to the speaker (very loud, because volume control in this situation is bypassed)..

  • @peterb8387
    @peterb8387 Před 5 lety

    Where is this week's video ? :-( How about WTRF?

  • @arefasgari8484
    @arefasgari8484 Před 5 lety +2

    shouldn't you say signal-to-noise ratio decreases @ 3:45 ?? cause there's more noise than before

    • @KeysightLabs
      @KeysightLabs  Před 5 lety +2

      Yep! Good catch. The noise goes up, the SNR goes down.

  • @CABohol
    @CABohol Před 5 lety

    Wow

  • @LReBe7
    @LReBe7 Před 5 lety +1

    Don't forget that you lose bandwidth when you turn your probe to times one.

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565 Před 3 lety

    Actually, the noise to signal ratio, N/S, goes up when you introduce more components (and noise) to your circuit measurements. The signal to noise ratio, S/N, goes DOWN.

  • @keyboard_toucher
    @keyboard_toucher Před 5 lety +4

    Didn't she mean to say "down" instead of "up"? 3:46

  • @abfal2003
    @abfal2003 Před 5 lety +1

    Eletroboom were are you

  • @strongholds12
    @strongholds12 Před 5 lety

    Hand crank to start an electronic generator (Battery bank), that then powers an electric motors, that then charges it back and keeps the battery bank charged, keeping the cycle going with pleanty of extra power for other uses
    Have you even bothered trying your hand at free energy, instead of just dismissing it because it's the modern and accepted concencous?

  • @oshankavinda7494
    @oshankavinda7494 Před 5 lety

    Please i wanna oscilloscope

  • @kaybhee6
    @kaybhee6 Před 5 lety

    //// no fourier,,,, detective,,,, no no

    • @KeysightLabs
      @KeysightLabs  Před 5 lety

      If the scope input is shorted, generally the FFT won't reveal any interference unless it's very strong.