The Loft Layout - January 2024 Running Session
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2024
- A brief video from the loft layout, showing some movements around what will become the station area. All 4 running lines are now wired and operational, with the fiddle yard also now fully laid. The larger junction represents Eastleigh East Junction, with the line going off to Romsey, whilst the pair of 150's are seen coming off the representation of the single track Portsmouth line.
Some additional track work and tweaking will be done before the next session, which will see an additional crossover installed to allow a train access Platform 2 whilst something is in Platform 3, as per the real Eastleigh. The newly laid fiddle yard roads will see a slight rework to move some points about to allow slightly longer trains to be accommodated. The next running session will step back 25 years to the turn of the century. Additional lighting should be fitted by that point, which will eliminate the darker patches on the layout. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Excellent Andy. Great running session, ATB to you.Stuart
Thanks Stuart, much appreciated!
This is one seriously impressive layout.
Looking good, eventually all workout🎉
Nice one Andy.
What a great running session video. It Sure has made me Re attempt mine. That is some lovely laid neat track 👌
Thanks mate! It was one thing I was keen to get right, the old layout I had was a bit of a nightmare for stuff derailing. Always spoils a running session when stuff keeps falling off!
Really enjoyable session - what a great space you have and nice to see NSE region shown!
Hi from Nz just subscribed and looking forward to seeing your progress. Your locos sound good. I can't really put up with quiet non sound anymore lol. Regards Bernie
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video! I was never interested in any sound fitted locos, then I ended up buying one out of curiosity and now love it! If money was no object, I'd fit sound to all the stock!
Great running session, just subscribed to follow more developments on the layout keep up the good work Mark
Thanks Mark, glad you enjoyed it!
Still lots of work to do! I would get as much of that work done while the winter is on, because come the summer, it will be a furnace up there! Thanks for uploading.
Definitely! About 75% of the track is laid and wired, hope to be finished with that come the end of spring. Summer time will be good for ballasting, will dry in no time!
Excellent great variety of trains
Looks good dude 🤘
well done, looks good
Coming along very nicely. Good to see realistic operation and running speeds 👍 Intrigued to see a track plan and understand the dimensions of the layout if they’re available anywhere online? Cheers, Dave
Thanks mate, really appreciate the comment! I'm certainly more on the side on doing things as prototypically as I can, though it's still a model railway! There's no track plan about at the moment, but I'll try and draw one up and include it along with some info on the layout when I next do a video. The layout is around 35ft by 9ft.
Super stuff Andy. Any plans to Grafitti the Yeoman Hoppers to match what we see today Lol!!
Thanks Steve! I do keep thinking about it, but I also run them in by 90's period. They didn't seem to end up a graffitied mess then!
Bloody Hell this must not have been cheap lol
I'm getting a sense of de'javu watching this layout. Have you shown a loft layout like this before? 😊
The layout is running well Andy
Thanks Mark! You'll have to have a play if you're ever up this way!
Looking good but would be even better given the length of your layout with a gentle curve or two thrown into the equation. Wondering if you’re going to put any foam or rubber under the tracks? Any chance of posting your layout plan? Will be following with interest. Cheers.
Thanks mate! I've had a few people say the same thing, but as the layout is based upon Eastleigh, the real thing is flat and dead straight. Once a few buildings start to appear, they'll help hide that fact all being well! I hope to include a track plan on the next video.
Can i ask , what make are the MK1 Restaurant cars in the Pullman train?
I beleive they are Bachmann RBR restaurant/buffet coaches, that have had some of the windows blanked off to represent those used in the Northern Belle.
Keep it as a basic loff ..non habitable
Forget the cents vus ur roof membrane is breathable
Insulate between the rafyers with cellotex and also over the top
Plasterboard and skim if funds allow
It will look good and cant wait to c it develope
The building regs route will cost u loads
Take care
Great video love the look of the layout, do you have a track plan at all? Also how wide is the board for the layout width wise? :)
Thanks mate! I've not got a track plan floating about, but will include one on the next video. The boards are 2 and a half foot wide, with the layout being about 35ft long and 9ft wide.
@@SWT442 Nice thanks, I'd love to have a loft layout one day for my layout, always try to understand peoples size of their layouts for ideas!
STOP! The best bit of advice anyone will give you on building your loft model railway layout follows.
I strongly urge you, before you do any layout building, make your loft into an insulated room and fit two Velux windows for general light and ventilation..... Or at least one. The investment will prove priceless. You can do a basic DIY job but just slinging up a bit of insulating bubble foil across the rafters will not suffice! Make a good strong floor too. Some building regulations will still apply/be required to comply with whatever the use; 50mm ventilation gap behind the new insulation, outside roof air tiles top and bottom, maybe eave soffit vents and a vapour barrier membrane. Stricter regulations if you want it to officially be an occupiable room rather than an occasional hobby space. This must be done BEFORE you build the layout. Ignore this critical advice at your own future annoyance, frustration, discomfort and hassle! Lofts are always too dark and either too hot or too cold, either way really rotten for modelling in and you will hate being there in it! All the best, regards Julian.
Thanks Julian, appreciate all the info! If money was no object, I'd certainly love to have it fully converted and the trusses taken out to make it a 'proper' room. The house it's in is about 12 years old, so is fairly well insulated as is, though obviously not as well as a normal room in the house! There are already 2 Dormer windows in the roof, these are currently fixed but they will be made to open to allow ventilation in the warmer months at some point this year. They do give a nice amount of natural light as is. The additional LED lighting also makes a big difference too!
The flooring has been done by a local loft company, I did tell them what my intentions were to ensure there would be no issues. I do intend to put additional insulation in to make it more comfortable in the mid-winter and high summer. A mate's brother is a builder, so will be seeking advice/getting him involved when it comes to considering the additional insulation. It'll never be a habitable space, it's purely a hobby and tat storage space!
@@SWT442 Hi Andy, Thanks for taking the time to reply with some details.
You will find that the actual roof structure has no insulation. Loft insulation is not roof insulation. It just sits on the top floor room's ceiling joists, where your loft room floor is now. The roof itself has no insulation. From what I can see above your tracks there is the main diagonal roof rafters, a layer of grey waterproof underfelt/reinforced plastic or building paper, on which the roof battens and tiles sit. This means the roof space is completely uninsulated above your newly laid floor level. Because of the small depth of roof rafter, they look about 75mm, there will be little room for good insulation as you need to leave 50mm air gap. This means the insulation will extend lower than the current roof rafter, probably by a couple of inches or so if you use a good insulation such as Celotex. Worth thinking about it now because it's so hard to do after, and you will need insulation on the underside of those rafters if you intend to build and use a layout. Richard at Everard Junction discovered this and when he rebuilt his entire loft layout a few years back he first insulated the underside of the roof rafters. I cannot stress enough how critical this is if you intend to build a decent layout. It simply must be insulated or it will be unusable 95% of the time. The extreme temperatures, both hot and cold will bugger the track too, if not really carefully designed for expansion and contraction. At least you already have two roof windows for natural light and future ventilation, when you make them opening windows.
Sorry to go on Andy but I see this time and time again; where people's impatience to build and their enthusiasm over take the essential objective practicalities. Big mistake, huge!
Hi Julian, Celotex will be the route I take to better insulate the roof. As I say, I'll be seeking advice on this to make sure things are done to a good standard and avoid any future headaches. It'll never be a habitable space while I live here, so it doesn't need to be a flashy install, purely functional. The temps have been more extreme in the summer months, doesn't seem to drop too far in the winter. It's been as low as -7c externally in the last week and the loft has been sat around 8c, which I don't think is too bad. I'm someone who works predominately outside in all weathers & temperatures, day and night, so a slightly chilly loft is no bother to me! And when summer rolls around, the modelling slows down anyway as I'm out doing other things. So far, the trackwork has gone through 2 winters and 1 summer and held up fairly well. There's of course a few areas that need improvement to better weather the extremes but consideration was given to this when laying the track. Compared to the garage at my parents where the last layout I had was, the loft has been a far more comfortable place to be in.
@@SWT442 Hi Andy, well I'm glad you're considering it seriously as I regard it as essential work.
If your unheated loft area didn't drop below 8 degrees during this last cold spell then there's a lot of heat escaping from your main house into it! Remember that insulation does not produce heat, it merely slows the rate of thermal change, thermal loss or thermal increase. Your loft will drop close to the outside temperature if left unheated and shaded from the sun, even if insulated! If you are hardy enough to battle on modeling through the severe hot or cold changes in your loft and are comfortable doing so, then who am I to suggest otherwise. However, as you get older and slow down, you may well require and appreciate that extra insulation. Don't forget that it also slows the heat loss from your main house too, reducing your overall required energy use and costs, so another reason to go ahead and insulate with Celotex or an equivalent as you're planning to. Yes, as it's a hobby space keep the costs down and just make it functional rather than an official living space which would be comparatively expense. Perhaps you can make a video update as you go with it to help nudge others in that direction! I'll keep an eye out!
All the best Andy, Julian