Whats Sikhi!? Hamza Tzortzis & Jagraj Singh | Old Is Gold | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park
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- Brother Hamza speaks to a visiting Sikh to the park about the basics of sikhi and the understanding of it compared to islam.
part of our Old is Gold video recorded by our brother 79Sarwar back in Sept16
Sikhism is a blessing I wish every birth I become Sikh
Hamza has such an underestimated charismatic personality. You can really learn alot just by watching him interacting in conversations with both strong arguments and beautiful manners and style.
That's the beauty of islam
He wasn't always this way... He went through some transformation by the grace of ALLAH ❤️
He is not underestimated. He is not known by alot of people is all.
@@khawariqbal2659 I didn't say he is underestimated. Don't rush to reply without reading carefully
@@badr_mo Can you explain me what do you mean by "Hamza has such an underestimated charismatic personality?
I love hamza because of one thing. He always debates not to win but to learn and teach.
Brilliant .... I really appreciate this Muslim, full of wisdoms... The Messenger of Allah said, "When Allah wishes good for someone, He bestows upon him the understanding of Deen." religion.. ❤️👍
*way of life not religion
His name is Hamza.
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ( من يرد الله به خيراً يفقهه في الدين ) ✔️
Both very respectful, May God bless both. Love to sikh brothers
The Sikh man passed away a few years ago from cancer
@@frefai oh really?😯
RIP to the Sikhi man, he seems like a tranquil and easygoing guy.
I don't know about easy but more of ignorant
@@MyName-ir1lz i dont know about you. you are just a fucking ignorent.
@@MyName-ir1lz why do you say that friend ?
@@sdavinder7209 why you swear for? this not what Guru teach you . Have some shame you giving bad name to all the Sikh
@@MyName-ir1lz he would still fight for you
Muslim guy seems like a very respectful, nice guy
He is very knowledgeable too.
@lol they weren't arguing that. They were arguing sikhism. He discusses islam in other videos
@lol just look in to the scientific facts of quran
@lol I watched both these silly videos. Ill be honest with you every verse is not contradictory with the modern understanding except the creation of humanity not being evolution. If you want to use that one you can. All the other verses are not claiming what they're assuming. You can look up responses to these claims if you chose to but of course you did not..
@lol the ornaments one?
The Muslim seemed confused and was going in circles, the sikh man made more sense
i'm sure if the christian watch this video they are thinking bro hamza is jesus
Yes.. look like Jesus.. lol..
Let's say "Jesus". Because we don't know what he really looked like. At least not the way these people today are portraying
nobody know the real jesus' face n his image,it's just leonardo da vinci's imagined so why the christianity sure for that is their god? this must be very misleading the christianity faith
erka rumkopi hamza's hair is black tho
Chris Markram prophet Mohammed described him, right?
This is how it should be a nice respectful talk ! Respect each other don’t force your belief on anybody
Hamza is a giant.
This is how humans discuss differences not through war and ignorance
We need to see more of brother Hamza Tzortzis. Please let him know SCDAWAH Team
When will we have Hamza tzorzis back in speaker's corner.
Marjem Bašagić
Unfortunately they come on occasions .. from time to time they attend & share their thought, specially Saboor Ahmed (the one holding his phone filming at 1:12 in the back with a dark shirt)
Brother Hamza is busy with his studies and IERA I guess. Normal lay muslims are enough to deal with the atheists and Christians.
Harkeerat Date how ironic that sick(Sikh) guy on the video doesn't look like different.
I love Hamza's hair! Always wanted to have hair like that
Christian.By.Choice is this how cursetian behaves , pathetic
Hamza is no longer with IERA but now formed Sapient Institute with mohammed hijab, for those watching this in the future. Doing amazing work.
The word filter sums it all up! Hamza may Allah bless you brother ameen
His filter is just another lens
@@Hargucci Says who? you believe in infinite regression? Crazy beliefs you lot have ... full of lies and the truth you stole from our Noble Glorious Qur'an .... your jagraj got so desperate he resorted to ad hominems and got personal .... as soon as he did that he lost ALL credibility and thus lost the debate miserably ... abysmal truly abysmal 🤣🤣🤣
Hamza made perfect sense. Shame the video ends at the point it’s just about to get interesting.
Brother jugraj was very humble and came from a good place.
Oh oh Hamza troz.
So long I did not see him
I love hamza
I salute Hamza's patience.
Brother Hamza nailed it
Hamza talk with respectful bsx Sikh people are most loveable community and Knowledgeable
I love hamza 💗
Me pulling out English dictionary for hamza
Is there a second part to this or continuation. This was great. From both ends...
love u hamza 😍❤️
Hamza you are such a lovely person...love u brother
I love the way the sikh guy conducts the debate. The best thing about Sikhs is they are not upto changing people's religion and telling others that their religions are false. Huge respect to sikh.
But he tells others that they’re not compassionate and only Sikhi is about compassion so he feels morally superior.
Not very different to religions saying theirs is the truth. Plus he was pretty rude to the Muslim guy if you watched e full thing
@@studiouspanda7183 Watch his other videos and then you'll get it. Whenever there is a debate between him and Muslims he is told that Sikhi is fake and sikh gurus are liars. The sikh guy never said tht stuffs . He's very humble and kind.
@@sigmarule1779 I’ve seen his other videos and followed the basics of Sikhi channel, the thing is of course he won’t challenge other people’s religions. Not because of respect, but because there’s no objective proofs he can give for Sikhi so if he challenged other religions, it wouldn’t help him.
Other religions can challenge because they tell him how their religion can be falsified etc
@@studiouspanda7183 Well I have watched many debates where Islam has falsified by hindu or Christian debaters and I've seen the opposite as well. My point is whether a religion and it's practices are justified or not it's a topic of never ending debates. Exploring a person's religious orientation and exploring the religious path to experience God is totally subjective. Sikhs don't believe in falsifying others that's why he never picked on other religion. He was all about explaining Sikhism. I totally love the way he explains sikhi and most of the comments including the comments of Muslims are in Jagraj's favour.
The point is islam is the truth. Whoever rejects the truth will have a big big loss in hereafter. No one change anyone religion it’s ppl who use your their intelligence or mind they accept the true path of Almighty. It’s same as Nike brand and there’s also Nike brand copy and we the original Nike brand letting everyone know what are the criteria to judge the actual brand. If you or anyone not interested to have original Nike then it’s your decision. Indeed this decision will have consequences or results on the day of judgement by our creator.
Jagraj didn’t have the answers to what Hamza was asking. The reason is when you get cornered into a intellectual conversation Islam has the answers because the Quran and Sunnah not only mention spiritual experiences but even scientific, mathematical, historical events have been proven in the holy Quran to be true. Whereas when you question others they can’t give you the answer. I think Jagraj did get slightly agitated with the questions Hamza put forward to him.
I LOVE ❤ HAMZA TZORTZIS AND SUBHOOR AHMED AND MUHAMMAD HIJAB ❤❤❤
And just when it was about to become interesting.
Is there are part 2 ?
Whats up with the villain looking guy at the background with the maroon sweater on lol
Kasim Ch haha i swear i was wondering about the same guy. I was trying to remember a villain from speaker's corner, thought it was Raj at first glance. But I guess Raj never came back after he got undone by Adnan Rashid lol. Even his own people don't want hime there cuz he spreads hate and lies
Let's be nice and not talk about people like this my dear Brother ❤️
@@fatimagaye3729 he's just messing around lol
Ego pumping him up...
His flexing his arms when under pressure
@7:35 everyone is judged individually, no judgment day, this will make earth a better place
Don't lie to yourself. Don't deny the day of judgment where Allah almighty will judge us for what we did on this earth.
@@999legend8 this is where you are obvious. You being practicing the manipulated word of Allah.
Hamza is a Lion MashAllah
Singh is King
He didn’t even let hamza talk
And didn’t answer any questions directly went around in circles repeating same things over and over
All he has is an experience which we know is from shaitan he wants people to not be on the right path
Brother hamza you were too polite so he took advantage of that and was being passive aggressive
Sikhi is not just about experiences. It’s also about logic and common sense. Sikhi doesn’t give you the answer, it says use your brain. Jagraj should have brought this up in this argument and elaborate more on it to answer the questions Hamza had while he was trying to understand Sikhi in the first place. Jagraj explains Sikhi is a thinking person’s religion from the videos in the Basics of Sikhi’s channel.
@@muhammadhaseeb2378 Yes I’m saying he could have expanded it a bit more because Sikhi is much more than experiences… You can’t limit your mind while trying to understand the essence of Sikhi. Sikhi has everything in it. For example it has truth, history, spirituality, faith, and it proves to you that God’s power is inside everything as well as human beings. One of the messages of Sikhi is that you can experience God’s bliss when you meditate and chant God’s name (whichever religion you are). As human beings, it all boils down to logic and common sense, which is another message of Sikhi [to acknowledge the humanity inside you and do good for the whole world]. This is all what I believe Jagraj was trying to tell him but he just needed to elaborate a bit more… To understand Sikhi and get the rationality behind it, that’s up to you.
Jagraj, always makes digs at Islam, when no Muslim is around to challenge him. He lies about Islam.
But truth is truth,
I remember ge was reading some part of the GGS when it came to mention the prophet muhammed he slipped it. But the Muslims picked him up on it quickly enough.😊
If you take all the Islamic and Hindu teachings out of Sikhi including “Khalid’s” which Muslim or Ibrahimic faith and “Karma” which Hindu tell me where does Sikhism stand ? Hope you use common sense .
@@shabz4772 it is every Sikh way of saying and living that they always try to talk about Islam with their own bubbled up imaginations. When you ask them how much Sikhi has its own faith if you take Binduism and Islam out and if you can’t take that out then how come “Hindu Anna Turku kana “. I mean they have nothing their own .
@@shabz4772 Listen, dumbass. He never did any of that. You're taking him out of context, and no Muslim could ever truly challenge him... Muslims never picked him up on anything, either. Not to mention, you're taking the scripture out of context. Muslims like you always lie and play the victims, and everyone knows that. There are many reasons why the world doesn't accept Islam because it's the most controversial religion. Muslims are very misled. Islam is mainly about the prophet Muhammad who went out of line on his own ego, and he never wrote your Koran either, and nothing was original... The Sikh scripture is the most original, and the Guru wrote the text and compiled it themselves, whereas the Koran was written by someone else and possibly took things out of context, which explains why Islam is misled. The Sikh scripture says your prophet acted on his own ego, which resulted in an impure message of God. Sikhism uses Islamic teachings as examples to remind you what the Guru is trying to tell you. Every revelation from God was transmitted through the Gurus, and they were able to successfully compile the same message from God. Sikhism is growing, whether you like it or not. Many Muslims became Sikhs during the time of the Gurus because Sikhism offers more than what other religions, including Islam, offer. Everyone will continue to learn about it and become Sikhs themselves. Your weak argument was shit and proved nothing.
Freedom peace and Blessings 😷
MashaAllah
28:25 Great counter argument by Hamza
At first it seemed like a good point... right up to when he said, "for someone who doesn't accept Islam..."
Basically he was pretending that he's all about clearing the lense of perception, but actually his intrinsic bias is that if someone doesn't accept HIS belief system (Islam) they may know some truths but they are probably misguided. It seemed like a gotcha at first but really it was the biggest give away that he's not being objective.
@@harijotkhalsa9496 Nothing is really objective though, humans will argue for eternity
@@MASSAM9669 agreed, people can not truly be objective, we all have perception and interpretation. My point there was that Humza displayed a very glaring example of bias. The reason it's glaring is because his whole message is that he's evaluated religion based on logic and proof.
@@MASSAM9669 100% agree. Religion is subjective. That’s why we call it “Belief” or “Faith”
He not allow br hamza to speak 😂
Love you brother hamza for the sake off Allah Alhamdilillah
Can hear Paul Smith spreading hatred lol. Everyday business
Chris Markram lol yeah😂😂😂
Chris Markram he's pathetic lol
Hamza Finally got him. What is the rational argument of Gurus eternal inspiration.
No he did not you lot think your right we will think we are fight let’s just leave it there
@@truth6564
Bro i lived with sikhs all my life and still living, my best friend is sikh like brothers, but truth is truth.
@@truth6564 If you listen carefully in the video Jagraj didn’t have the answers to what Hamza was asking. In the entire video Hamza was asking what’s the evidence to say what the Guru has taught is the truth and Jagraj just went on and on about spiritual experiences and like Hamza pointed out if some person told you the dark room is Black and it is Black but then said to you the sky is green would you still follow that person due to spirituality.
Faith has to make sense from a rationale point of view as well.
@@realtalk3968 what’s evidence for Quran being true?
@@r3b22ber3 Are u Sikh or hindu ?
Where's the second part
All religions are true it's your Karma which will count the most. God will judge based upon Karma, the actions, speech, thought. There could be many pathways but destination is one and only. I love Jagraj bhaji very unfortunate he passed away but I believe he could have replied in this way: that pathways are different but destination is same - it's what you do during walking on the different pathways will determine what would happen to someone who goes in the here after.
Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, issahi, sub ko mera salaam!
You cannot compare the physical dimension with the non-physical.. Spirituality is beyond the physical.
Absolutely. Spirituality is an experience that cannot be explained in words. It is felt.
That's stating the obvious. But the point is, what evidence is there that the Sikh way is truth. There isn't, therefore a non-Sikh would logically never become one, as there is no evidence to prove it is the truth. It seems to be just about a "feeling".
Conversely, Islam obviously has the spirituality aspect, but has tons of rational evidence that proves it is the one truth. The noble Qur'aan being the eternal proof, unchangeable, incomparable, and free of any errors or contradictions. The predictions in it, the information it contains that have only been confirmed by science in last century, all prove Islam is the truth.
The Sikhs continuous use of "many people say your arguments are not rational" without backing it up with anything, shows that hes got nothing.
Islam is the largest Practiced religion and the fastest growing for a reason. May Allah guide all to the truth.
Respect to both individuals in this video. It just makes me really mad reading some of these comments and how they bash the Sikhi man without having knowledge about him. This is not right. (I respect your religion but it gives you know right to disrespect other people without knowing what they stand for)
No one is disrespecting the sikh man. People are making constructive criticism. You should not watch these kinds of videos if you can't understand and feel emotional.
@@rottenfreddy3759 a lot of ppl are disrespectful towards him I agree with u about the emotions but my comment was not based off emotions it was based on facts
@LearningG I can happily explain why it’s the truth but my argument isn’t about what’s the truth it’s about respect. Besides that I believe every religion has truth to it that’s why in sikhi they teach us to respect other religions if you are a Muslim become a good Muslim of u are a Hindu become a good and righteous Hindu.
@LearningG yes they should and you are more then welcome to try Sikhi :) but if you don’t want to convert then that is perfectly fine with us to :)
@LearningG Sikhism history is considered recent history therefore it’s is verifiable, and based off lgbt we treat everyone equal including all women since the start of sikhi.
But for why it’s the truth it has personally worked for me even though that is subjective I tell you right now when you try the mediation my life literally changed. For example let’s say you see someone walking and you want to be a runner, and then you see someone running faster then everyone wouldn’t u want to try the same coach that person has for running? It’s a similar context in that sense to having faith and experiencing God.
Really sad that jagraj saab passed away. Would have loved to have seen him and Adnan Rashid have a dialogue
I've watched few videos of jagrag, he conviction in his religion. Respectful man. R.i.p
Guy was ill mannered and rude as seen in the vid
The guy with sunnies look like the guy from GTA character who about to start throwing random punches
Where is the full conversation?
Mr Jagraj Singh passed away in 2017
I was thinking this Sikh is wise but here I realised that he has just memorised some arguments
@Numair Khan you seem like a extremist , caring about winning and losing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@TheYhyhman what's extremist about it? That's the whole point of a debate winner's and loosers. Bet you won't be saying that if jagrag "won" so ready to smear and belittle and be a bigot on a Muslims success. Cowardly
Nah I think your guy looks lost 🤔🤔🤔
@@truth6564 that means his personal experience is not true in reality .
When he said "God's light is in all of us" this is remarkably similar to the Quaker belief that their is an "inner light" in all people. Quakers (Society of Friends) heavily stress this belief.
It's known as Paramatma. The Three Aspects of " God." Atma , Paramatma and Bhagawan. From the Upanishads, " Tat tvam assi."
Come one Jagraj, Hamza's at a different level altogether.
Extremist
Hamza is a legend. He puts fear in the hearts of wafflers and babblers
you see, it is comments like this which are problematic, that seek to create conflict rather than respectful discussion between the two.
Hamza is a school flunked . Jagraj is Oxford graduate
@@Hellobuffaland Jagrag conceded
Salam Alekom akhi,
Great content .. thanks for sharing it, jazak Allah khair
Send our regards to Hashim please brother.
Without Experience nobody can know God. That is the essence of what the Wise Sikh man is saying. and all dharmic religions emphasize this!!!
even with experience you need objective truth because experience is subjective
God doesn’t exist
@@pbgaming3631 ok
@@palani9376 lmao
@@pbgaming3631 prove it
Sikh got outclassed by the Muslim. So he became passive aggressive and rude.
Outclassed how 😂
Jagraj is very good at twisting and turning the points and keeps interrupting when the other person's speaking not allowing them to express their point in the proper way. He doesn't stick to the point or else he would've been proved wrong like a long time ago. Also subjective experience is very different from rationality.
U r correct
Totally, he just starts talking about colours when he is being put on blast.
Mashallah
To both even sihk guy theres spirit from them brothers may allah guide them
But hamza is a lion
And to the asian johnny bravo lol
A saying that comes to mind is: when a stone is thrown at a dog, the dog chases the stone, when a stone thrown at a lion, the lion chases the person who threw the stone.
How is this relevant to this video?
Hamza is best ... the sikh can t tell story to tell he relegion.. the Shikh can t answer broo Hamzah question ... love .love ... love but were proof broooo..
put the date like 180210 on the topic
Sikhs are our real brothers
If only they realised they’re following a watered down version of Islam and Hinduism
I really don’t like this Sikh guys tone … bless Hamza for being so calm & responding back intellectually & respectfully.
Yeah seems very passive-aggressive. I don't get the comments of people calling him calm and humble I didn't see that at all
I hear muslims are peaceful, kind and friendly, but in EVERY discussion/ debate they are so arrogant because they believe they are right, no matter what is said. And 95% of the time its the Muslim who gets heated. Never want to listen or learn.....only teach and preach!!
@@ba-doubble5199 You seem bias . This very example infront of us shows the opposite, can you acknowledge that at least? Not saying there's not muslims who don't preach and become angry sometimes etc . But so what ? There's Sikhs who act the same Hindus, Christians etc it's not constrained to one faith that just humans. May God guide us all and rectify our characters
@@user-fn8bs2mo1h I'm biased how? I never said that other religions didn't get angry or arrogant? The videos i watched with muslims debating other people, the Muslim was the one who Stand there arrogant, smiling just waiting to be let loose, to tell you where you've gone wrong. How it really is, the real truth, want to teach everyone a new meaning for something they already belive or agree with. I'd love to see a video of Muslims and atheists talk and the Muslims not correct a single thing?!
A brilliant video, and as a person who studies all religions, after watching this, both speakers get credit, but the gentleman on the right - Hamza kind of nails the debate on an intellectual basis. I strongly think people who have no religion at all and want to study religions can see who has the strongest debate. Personally, and a lot of people in my kind of nature who enjoy studying religions you need something more than 'love' and using experiences as examples to explain sometimes isn't enough.
@LearningG Hi m8, hope you are well and good. From my view and understanding from this video, the gentleman and humble person on the left talks relativley about love and love being the more important factor in everything and from an experience which is amazing and something that I honour. However, there has to be some rationality in the statements being said. I have a lot of Christian friends and they are always talking to me about Jesus and his love which is amazing and fantastic, but they cannot give me real rational statements to back that 'Love' being the truth but more on the experience and emotional side. Religion is very subjective and from this video, the religion from the gentleman on the left regarding 'Sikhi', the video discusses the involvement of inner experiences and sentiments being the truth and such feelings of God guiding the life of the devotee. Here religion involves subjectivity in the sense of individual experience. But can that be argued as being rational in being the truth from experiences and emotions? And do we follow something on the basis of just pure love and experience? Or can we look at it from a physical angle to believe the truth with the emotiona and experiences as when we look at a leaf. The intrinsic capillaries and structure -there is a design to it and it is magnificent, and through 'Art' there has to be a logical understanding of a designer. The laws of physics and all the chemical, physical reactions that take place, there is initiation for that to happen. So who is the initiator and designer?
Brilliantly put Simon and I think the answer to your question at the end isn't too far from your mind. Rationally the next step is to judge which religion lays the most truthful claim to having the truth from this 'initiator'
AS you correctly noted, the Islamic perspective is not based on emotions and subjectivity but objectivity, rationality, logic and evidence.
Good that Sikhism is getting debated.
What i observed ,is that whenever Hamza asked difficult questions the Sikh guy interrupts and tries to distract Hamza. The Sikh guy knew the flaws of his religion and was trying everything to interrupt Hamza but also trying to look smart.
But he had nothing to offer
Don’t you have to experience a faith or rather any way of life to understand it? In order to understand the rationality and the objective/subjective aspects of a particular faith or way of life, you have to experience it first don’t you? That should have been Basics of Sikhi’s way of answering Hamza’s questions and then building on that because there are many ways to make of it. These are some challenging questions coming from Hamza, however, it all boils down to the fact that we are only human and we can only debate so much and get tired of it. I felt Basics of Sikhi in the video was losing patience while answering the questions because it must have been a long day for them that day… With any faith, ways of life, or even politics, it’s just going to infinitely keep going, but there’s a catch - we’re only human, not machines.
Hahaha ummm ok so if he was "tired" who told him to go preach? Stay home then. Also, yes we humans are not perfect but he himself out himself out there to do debate so shouldn't he come with facts and proofs??? Don't try to wipe his ass for him hahahaha
@@MyName-ir1lz No, you misunderstood. As a human being, I analyzed the much larger picture between the two individuals by their body language. Everyone gets tired of talking, don’t you? It’s an indisputable fact that we can only do so much. Again, we are only human, not machines as controversial topics such as religion will simply keep going on forever and this video is proof of that. Both had facts, but Hamza was trying to understand Sikhi at the very beginning because it was evident that he didn’t know much about Sikhi in the first place and that’s what Basics of Sikhi was trying to do. For Hamza to digest and believe what Basics of Sikhi was trying to tell him, that’s up to him.
@@50ssb82 a true religion does not keep on going forever. You provide facts and details but Sikhs they can't provide anything besides stating "oh guru lived this way so should you." He thought he could be like Hamza, Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab but naw he is finished!
@@MyName-ir1lz he gave the best proof, experience, if you see something for urself, you will now it to be true, undoubtedly, it is the best proof in existence
@@highgroundgaming9161 continue deleting my comments haahaha says alot therefore no point talking to a donk3y
Jagraj singh speech ture ..... respect
The Sikh brother , is rather much emotional than logical
Now that sikh guy has met his match or should I say someone above his calibre. Go brother Hamza Tzortzis !!!
The Sikh guy gets very defensive as soon as hamza questions his experiences
if I questioned Prohet Muhammed would you get defensive?
@@ramandeepgrewal2346 no I wouldn't but we are not talking about people here.
@K o yeh I think he didnt want to insult him as he was getting defensive so a personal experience is very subjective.
@K o May be you dont know much about islam quickly becoming the no.1 religion in the world not because of experience because of a a physical book we call the quaran which if u read will know what it contains. No other book has been preserved like the Quran and its has been memorized like poetry which is the most beautiful thing about islam
Good for you my brother I thought may be u didnt understand islam.
Who is the Guru Ggs sahib Talks about? I think i need to read Nanak sabib gs Biography, because if its experiential than he must have been influenced by someone as he begs us to follow the saints the Sangat.
Is there a part 2?
Who the hell is screaming in the background lol -.-
@27:30 it’s like beating a dead donkey, it’s leading no where
in favour of who?
The sikh was not honest and he has his channel called basics of sikhi where he puts videos where he is wining the debate but he didn't upload this discussion for some reason...
Glory be to Allah .
Every person has personal experience of something which he feels true ,than that doesn't mean that everybody is right
Beautiful
the whole first half of the debate was about that. Jagraj Singh explained the answer to this many times
29.13 when Hamza startled him with the question, man didnt know what hit him 😂
Pls read about Pastor Pierre Oult....
Brother hamza looks like someone from Ertugrul series. Also, i felt like that guy in maroon is a villain of Tamil movies🤣 And, all i could think about was to do some beard trimming for the sikh guy i felt like it was tickling me through my phone 😖
You can't be older than 15. Is that exactly what would Prophet Mohammad say? he also had a beard and he wasn't trimmed and now?
@@billsingh9615 Mate chill it's a joke. The position of camera was in such a spot that half of the screen was taken by his beard so i said it was tickling me. No need to be serious all the time dude.
@@billsingh9615 he didn't trim it write it correctly plz.
@@Zeeshanijaz844 a facial would be nice for all these men. Beards are so 2010s.
Im reading Siri Grant Sahib g. Im a half way through it. As a muslim and a student of Arabic , i can only say the Siri Guru Nanak g is the just Praising and Explaining the philosophical understanding of The Asma ul Husnas (The ALLAHs Essences and Attributes).
And he He believes you cant obtain the Full knowledge of God and you can just follow the True servants of God and learn from them.
He says in 11/1430: “Tujh Bin duja koi nahi “
There is no one except you.
He goes on and explains how infinite Lord is how his Love and gifts can not be contained by us limited beings ( That reminds me Surah Al kausar’s first aya “ indeed certainly we have provided you abundance (in The quantity you cant even imagine) .
Now my only problem is , the GGS sahib is only the speech of Guru Nanak g and he never said he got it from God, he rather sayas Nanak is the sacrifice to those who serves Lord.
you're not understanding the true message of SGGS
You need to go read it agin mate cause you sound abit lost
@@truth6564
I don't need to i need more about sikhi than many sikhs, you guys are lost , when Guru never called him Prophet but Gobind singh is very prophet figure, Guru Nanak saab was hindu and u r sikh. Learn your religion mate
@@curiosone8843 There is message to all sikhs from our gurus in SGGS .
No religion just humanity ..
no hindu no muslim ..
Just like u have believe in quran and profet muhammat ..
We have believe in our own guru SGGS ji and their message..
@@curiosone8843 i do have muslim friends where dont have any answers for 72 virgin girls, propheet mohammd s child wife ayegha , and how they support to have physcial relation with slave girls ... And marrying child with 100 yrs old ...
They he shown interest in his own son s wife .. In camel story case He ordered to kill the camel thieves ....
There are many you tube videos where many people left islam because they found out that in quoran also there are many things mentioned above are true ..if u need there are many videos avaible .... Also go through imam tawhidi videos ...
The Sikh guys argument from experiencing god is just a flawed argument, as personal experiences are not evidence of something being true .
Watch his debate with ali and mohammed hijab he does the same thing there too lol & that was yearss ago
Hamza like:Aww sh** here he go again lol
@Manpreet singh No islam teaches patience and to try to understand others but this guruguru guy do not understand Hamzas argument and he is being not kind in a way to Hamza
Anyway may Allah guide us all
Hai,
The viewpoint should be the truth at the centre and all the religions circles it round and round.
So,
There is thousand way to reach God.
If Islam one door so Sikhism the other door.
All roots from same tree.
All roads to the same God.
Are you sick or what? How can all religions be same?
@@namaloompakistani1768
Religion means group of people under one label or tag.
Spirituality means individual journey to seek god and truth.
There is possibility all god's are same but not all pathways are.
How do know there is hell , do you have been there before or just blindly accept there is one?
omg, give at least one example outside 'experience' !
religion is all about experience.....what else are you aiming for? there is no material gain in it! so why should any material explanation be adequate to justify it......but then again most(not all) muslim folks are in it for all the paradise riches,......ask yourself, how do you define paradise?
@@rozqr4320 fool it's better to believe in truth.Believing in recarnation concept made by Hindu pandits is ridiculous.
@@cartoonclips6487 have you died and confirmed?
Is Salah not an subjective experience
'there is no material gain in religion' emm when i woke up this morning i had breakfast on my table. there was a possibility that the breakfast wouldnt have been there. who should i thank for this ? i've seen in movies families dining together pray and thank god b4 eating. the root of bread is wheat seed. the root of it all, all the material stuff, is what? or 'who'
Hamza Tzortzis is a man who can put the sicks down
Its Sikh not sick
@@arvinderbhangu8373 ops.. Sorry mate
maybe this word might be he stop to complexing on something and on and on ..
"Undependenceness"
The Sikh guy was speaking of personal experience - that is subjective not rational. It's like Muslims love Prophet Muhammad more than any other human being does not make him a Prophet. Just because he was nice person.
And if we’re talking about personal experiences i’ve had my personal experiences with Allah. They’re true but that doesn’t mean you’ll believe them. Not spiritually. So i was fasting in Ramadan, then i prayed that Allah makes it rain on who he’s forgiven. Two or three days and it was raining, in egypt in a summer, which is one of the least times that egypt would rain as it has a very low rain fall amount. And I’ve had doubts in the prophethood of Jesus, so i prayed that Allah gives me the truth, and i scrolled in a Quran app randomly, landed on a random surah, scrolled again, landed on a random verse. This was the verse i landed on, *And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"* And i also sinned on a normal hot day, also in egypt, when i prayed for forgiveness from Allah, and then i told him to let it rain when he has forgiven me. I look out my window and it’s raining. Like the man said, personal experiences with God. You won’t necessarily believe them, but that won’t mean they aren’t true. As long as i know they’re true, that’s good for me, but it’s not enough to bring to a debate. A debate has to have objective truth, not subjective. So there you have it bro
Keep me in your prayers
" - you just keep saying it's wrong, but you don't say why it's wrong
- I'll say it to you why I thought it's wrong, because it didn't as rational person convince me..."
lol he can't be serious.
Which part was that
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The funny thing is Hamza is asking him to be rational about Sikhism and provide anything other then “spiritual experience” he’s got nothing. And he calls him self a rational person. What a moron.
Gamelover, there actually are rational evidence about Sikhism.
And please don't speak rudely to others. I'm sure your religion teaches that
so we aint gonna talk about the voice crack at 25 20
Filters and Lenses which Hamza talks about the reverse could be asked to him then what is his answer?
I didn't understand your question
@@babyboss8231 When Hamza talks about filters and lenses in this video which we all are reviewing what is his answer if same was asked to him about his religion
@@MyTechniqueWorks i don't know you should contact to Dawah wish they can easily answer you on this
@@babyboss8231 I did - they had no answer. It's common sense if God is all powerful then God could just make good and heaven and no evil. That's it. It's simple.
@@MyTechniqueWorks why God is going to make good and not evil if god is so powerful then why not make evil.
Sometimes evil is necessary for the society.
Like Hitler is evil but because of him people understand what not to do.
There are a lot of people on here going on about how this Sikh guy is respectful. I'm sorry but I don't smoke, inject or ingest toxic substances. So maybe I'm not seeing what you're seeing. This Sikh feigns humility and is rude. He twice cut off Hamza and assumed he knew what he was talking about. Even though he didn't fully comprehend what he was saying. Also, he spoke for ages and really didn't say much. Yet couldn't be as patient as Hamza and let him get more than a couple of sentences across. Open your eyes Brothers and Sisters. Stop holding deluded people to such high standards. Especially ones who aren't nearly as wholly good as you're making them out to be.
The foundation islam offers, non other way of life can.
@khurkhurnath 1- The rational belief of Only creator. 2- Why He alone is worthy of worship. 3- Is Quraan His words? How? 4- Is Mohammad pbuh is His true messanger? How? 5- Is Islamic teachings compatible with all times? How? 6- The concept on hereafter, how does it make sense? I mean Islam is comprehensive and has a answer to every question which makes sense, matches with the nature and gives the tranquility to heart and that gives a convection.
@udham singh I think God wants us to ponder, think, reflect, contemplate. This is common ability of every human being. If intellect is not utilized to choose to find the truth then what else? I.e who created this universe which is holding in the space? How come sun and moon are floating with certain speed, do they have some intellect or brain that they do not fault? Do not change the speed, or there is a Creator who is controlling evey bit of this planet? Similarly if you think upon human, it's creation, life and death? And unbelievably amazing creations then who created all of these?
@udham singh we have some strong reasons and arguments to believe Gebriel AS visited and deliver Alla's message to Muhammad PBUH. But would you believe?
@udham singh your questions about 'haters'. There is alway collision between right and wrong. They cannot live together, like nigative and positive. Can they be the same? Truth and false can they be the same? Similarly islam is a way of life and truth because it answers to every question of mankind e.i life n death, this life and what is come after this life. It give a comprehensive idea which convinces to brain, matches with your nature and gives tranquility to your heart. And since Islam is a way of life thus other way of life's confront with islam and it's ideology. What else do you think is the reason people hate us or think we hate them?
@Fahrenheit boy I think before asking that question to @udham sing, you should check your understanding about Islam and it's truthfulness. You rather would have presented some srong proofs instead. May Allah open our hearts to accept the truth and guide us to the right path.
Hamza Rollins.
Guru is very much a sufi