POSE FX CHARACTERS BASED ON REAL PEOPLE - Venus Xtravaganza, Dorian Corey, Crystal LaBeija & More

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  • 11 POSE FX CHARACTERS BASED ON REAL PEOPLE - Venus Xtravaganza, Dorian Corey & More
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    Pose is a US Drama Series that premiered on FX in May 2018. It follows the up and coming House Mother Blanca Evangelista as she attempts to make a name for herself in the New York ballroom scene. The series is loosely based on the 1990 documentary Paris is Burning, that documents the lives of iconic Ballroom pioneers in the late 80’s.
    1. Pray Tell, based on Junior Labeija
    2. Blanca Evangelista, based on Avis Pendavis and Angie Xtravaganza
    3. Angel Evangelista, based on Octavia St. Laurent, Tracey Africa Norman, and Carmen Xtravaganza
    4. Ms Ford, based on Eileen Ford
    5. Damon Evangelista, based on Willi Ninja
    6. Elektra Abundance, based on Crystal LaBeija and Dorian Corey
    7. Candy Abundance, later Ferocity, based on Venus Xtravaganza, plus colorism discussion
    8. Lil Papi, based on the two kids from Paris is Burning
    9. Quincy, based on the two kids from Paris is Burning
    10. Chilli, based on the two kids from Paris is Burning
    11. Frederica Norman, based on Leona Helmsley, plus discussion on ACT UP Activists, and giant condom house covering.
    I also discuss how RuPaul was largely influenced by Ballroom Culture, and often pays tribute to ballroom/ drag queen icons on RuPaul’s Drag Race.
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  • @princessamani
    @princessamani  Před 3 lety +1004

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    • @jaisonlives
      @jaisonlives Před 3 lety +16

      Thank you for this!! Well done!

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    • @princessamani
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    • @thegiftedmarki5399
      @thegiftedmarki5399 Před 3 lety +7

      Electra is actually inspired by Crystal Labeija’s based on her protégée Pepper Labeija

    • @caityponn4778
      @caityponn4778 Před 3 lety +7

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  • @Simsrockslol
    @Simsrockslol Před 3 lety +3044

    the amount incredible trans and gay ppl who died from AIDS is heart shattering.

    • @lindabuck2777
      @lindabuck2777 Před 3 lety +192

      It TOTALLY IS!!! From 1983 to 1985 I was in the hospital on average 3 times a week for about 6 months, to witness death from aids, to say goodbye to my loves, my heart! I STILL cry like now writing. 1987 was the loss of my 25 yr old sister to aids, which was the final cap and last death I personally dealt with. I see god and his/her SHINE inside each one of us! It’s a blessing! Love hard love always come from love at all times!!! Start with yourself🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🙏🏻

    • @moneymaker3208
      @moneymaker3208 Před 3 lety +36

      @@MariellaSuenos1 so glad you’re still here!

    • @christinagraham2915
      @christinagraham2915 Před 3 lety +137

      The government did not care until it hit the straight community

    • @christinagraham2915
      @christinagraham2915 Před 3 lety +12

      @@MariellaSuenos1 do u think the government had something to do with the spread if aids

    • @beatnikrn2945
      @beatnikrn2945 Před 3 lety +58

      @@christinagraham2915 Exactly! The Reagan’s not only knew, but Nancy Reagan was very close friends with Rock Hudson, who was dying at the time they took office. It’s been said that when he asked her to address the “gay plague”, she stopped taking her calls. That’s cold. So they not only knew about it, but they were both from Hollywood, and both had worked around members of the LGBTQ community, and had made friends. When they got to Washington, I guess they forgot where they came from. The president didn’t even say the word AIDS until 83? 84, maybe? Just how many people might we have saved, or at least improved their quality of life.
      We lost an entire generation of LGBTQ persons. And they were the “Stonewall” generation, so we’ve lost some of the details of our history at that time in our history. My generation came along after them, and I am so glad I knew some of those wonderful people. They taught us a lot about how to survive in the world. I miss my friends that I knew. I am so so glad this show is paying tribute to the amazing people of that time. We will never know what they endured!

  • @effincat
    @effincat Před 3 lety +2266

    “she passed away of aids/cancer complications, murdered” there's so much pain in those life stories :(

    • @ChocolateGumDrop89
      @ChocolateGumDrop89 Před 3 lety +88

      I wish it wasn’t so many beautiful ppl with wonderful talents

    • @lucio.martinez
      @lucio.martinez Před 3 lety +93

      It's uch a dark history of the USA, to let us die of AIDS, like a no-value human being.
      Yet this country is full of churches at every corner!
      I cringe at thought that our people died all alone, subccumed by a virus.
      Ring a bell, any one?

    • @GeniusMusikk
      @GeniusMusikk Před 3 lety +45

      And they were so young. Venus was only 23 and Angie was only 28!

    • @Igor-di6sy
      @Igor-di6sy Před 3 lety +51

      I work in forensic medicine and it's beyond heartbreaking when I see on young homeless LGBT teens and victims of abuse on my table. On several occasions I had trans women who were clearly murdered and no one gave a damn....That infuriated me each time and each time I had to go through insane hoops just to get a glimmer of hope for justice for them. I'm very thankful for The Pose because as the adage goes it's a lot harder to dislike and hate someone whose story you know. We need more and more education, if it comes in the form of entertainment, so be it as long as an unaware person learns somethings and walks away with a bit more respect and understanding about other people and their battles.

  • @classybootz6142
    @classybootz6142 Před 3 lety +2320

    Billy Porter and Dominique Jackson really embodied the real characters.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +91

      100% they do them justice!

    • @nas10iris
      @nas10iris Před 3 lety +66

      Billy Porter is perfection - he's my grandpa in another life lol

    • @JoeSaxon62
      @JoeSaxon62 Před 3 lety +33

      I think when Broadway Actress Patti Lupone appeared on the show she was Leona Helmsley

    • @ketreenawilliams1320
      @ketreenawilliams1320 Před 3 lety +6

      REALNESS!!!!

    • @umisessentials8516
      @umisessentials8516 Před 3 lety +15

      Candy kinda too her death was similar

  • @elrs85
    @elrs85 Před 3 lety +1620

    “I have a right to show my color, darling!” YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!

  • @Skinniest_Kween
    @Skinniest_Kween Před 3 lety +1191

    I read that Elektra's story is also loosely based on Dominique Jackson's life/experience. She's, in a way, playing herself.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +162

      I can believe that after watching Dominique's hulu documentary

    • @Skinniest_Kween
      @Skinniest_Kween Před 3 lety +18

      @@princessamani exactly.

    • @karilari8057
      @karilari8057 Před 3 lety +70

      That makes Dominique even more iconic than I thought she was

    • @mischiefmaker3140
      @mischiefmaker3140 Před 3 lety +22

      After watching her documentary , I thought of this immediately

    • @jayangeles9461
      @jayangeles9461 Před 3 lety +2

      @@princessamani exactly i just finished watching the documentary.

  • @__isagani4208
    @__isagani4208 Před 3 lety +1171

    I still get teary-eyed whenever I watch Candy’s goodbye performance. :’(

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +96

      Me too it’s too intense especially the funeral scene

    • @crystalw.6033
      @crystalw.6033 Před 3 lety +12

      Me too!!!

    • @dwmusic147
      @dwmusic147 Před 3 lety +60

      Every time I hear “Never knew Love like this before” I think of Candy 🥺

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +25

      Me too I can't listen without getting emotional

    • @iwannaseeit1979
      @iwannaseeit1979 Před 3 lety +11

      @@dwmusic147 even though I've heard that song a bunch of times it was like I'd never heard it before💔

  • @Khensani
    @Khensani Před 3 lety +548

    I do think it’s great that the darkest woman on the show is the absolute epitome of opulence and self love and pride!

    • @hunterhaywood5968
      @hunterhaywood5968 Před 2 lety +11

      Yassssss👌🏾

    • @Mariah203
      @Mariah203 Před 10 měsíci +20

      Also, it was stated that Candy routinely won the face category. I loved that too.

  • @destinaro.
    @destinaro. Před 3 lety +1463

    I think about Venus sometimes and I hope she's somewhere having everything she ever wanted. I'm so sad that the person/people that murdered her haven't been caught. 💔

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +91

      Me too! It's ridiculous but happens so often :( x

    • @lolitabubbles26
      @lolitabubbles26 Před 3 lety +120

      I still remember watching the documentary years ago and had to rewind because I just couldn't believe it when I heard them speak of her in the past tense. It was just unreal.

    • @taccora
      @taccora Před 3 lety +66

      Right? Wouldn't it be so appropriate if the mummified man in Dorian's house was Venus's killer? That's how I get some peace in her story.

    • @valentinomays3654
      @valentinomays3654 Před 3 lety +85

      @@princessamani it really upsets me that we have all this technology but no one has solved the murder of Venus. I think about this every now and again. She didn't deserve any of that. All she wanted was a normal happy life. She deserved to have that

    • @thomasramel7449
      @thomasramel7449 Před 3 lety +3

      @@taccora why do you think of that?

  • @mayapace6914
    @mayapace6914 Před 3 lety +662

    Ryann (who plays Damon) is my little cousin, I’m so proud of him and very happy for him ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @plantdjinni
      @plantdjinni Před 3 lety +48

      whenever I see him on screen it makes me smile! He’s so wonderfully talented

    • @Mr.Majestic77
      @Mr.Majestic77 Před 3 lety +23

      There needs to be a Pose spinoff after this final season.

    • @emilyetcetera6233
      @emilyetcetera6233 Před 3 lety +7

      I just saw the first 2 eps of season 3 tonight. Why is he only in the first episode??? Is he okay???

    • @keesa5650
      @keesa5650 Před 3 lety +4

      Tell Ryann he’s one of my Favorite characters on POSE.🎭

    • @tangiegaines6657
      @tangiegaines6657 Před 3 lety +14

      I'm still praying for your family, I can imagine it has been a difficult time for y'all♥️♥️♥️

  • @redvelvetcomebackprayerlea4962

    I just love how Pose took Octavia St. Laurent’s modeling dream by incorporating her audition in the series and her dreams be materialize in Angel Evangelista’s story. I just cried a little when Angel got her photo up in the pharmacies knowing this is Octavia’s dream for herself.

  • @noextrai
    @noextrai Před 2 lety +414

    loved this video.

  • @michelleyoga87
    @michelleyoga87 Před 3 lety +487

    Pose is one of the best pieces of entertainment ever created....ever...it should be taught in schools.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +16

      Literally my favourite show of all time

    • @armandoosuna6525
      @armandoosuna6525 Před 3 lety +3

      For real Tho!! Thank you.

    • @mdatx2012
      @mdatx2012 Před 3 lety +7

      Agreed. It is really eye opening.

    • @juanitosalvo5763
      @juanitosalvo5763 Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly there are studens who are part of the LGBT community, trans students who doesn't know about this film ot should be taught in schools

  • @voidfly
    @voidfly Před 2 lety +64

    I never saw Candy or Elektra as agressive or messy
    I saw them as flawed, tortured people that are willing to grow
    Elektra was always a joy to see on screen, even when she was playing her part as a disney villain. But she was never actively malicious. You could tell from ep.1 that Blanca & Elektra still care for each other
    Candy to me was very sympathetic, getting laughed at numerous times. She was hard-working, dedicated to her goals and smart. Also always willing to help out her family like with the cocoon.
    All in all I love these characters so much

  • @sweigh72
    @sweigh72 Před 3 lety +297

    My heart breaks for Venus Xtravaganza so sad 💔😥

  • @aquarian6004
    @aquarian6004 Před 2 lety +97

    Watching Paris Is Burning is like a question with no answer. Made me hanging particularly with Venus, it’s like meeting a friend in a park as child and you had the time of your life and not meeting your playmate the next day.

  • @ThatBearHasMoxie
    @ThatBearHasMoxie Před 3 lety +241

    As ballroom child from the 80s and 90s you did a magnificent job with this! You did us proud.

  • @UserName-zc4vx
    @UserName-zc4vx Před 3 lety +133

    All of the ballroom judges are real folks that were in the ballroom scene and I love that.

  • @Toptiershawnn
    @Toptiershawnn Před 3 lety +715

    I’m so glad you gave history and evidence

  • @feralpixie7390
    @feralpixie7390 Před 2 lety +101

    Whenever I think about all the people we lost to HIV/AIDS in the 80's and 90's I get a lump in my throat and feel like I'm going to choke.. It wasn't a epidemic, it was a genocide until the straights started getting it and dying, then all of a sudden they got very concerned. If there is a hell May the people who stood by and did nothing burn for all time.

    • @GEMof72
      @GEMof72 Před rokem +2

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾🕊️🕊️

    • @Titanicdork133
      @Titanicdork133 Před 9 měsíci

      Straight people were the first to get it- it just thrived in the gay community

  • @DStallworth
    @DStallworth Před 3 lety +83

    "I dont tell youre ugly, but I dont have to tell you, because you know youre ugly." LMMFAO

  • @A0.917
    @A0.917 Před 3 lety +265

    Now I have to watch Paris is Burning and Pose

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +28

      Haha you won't regret it xo

    • @victordunson719
      @victordunson719 Před 3 lety +12

      You have soooooooooo much to look forward to.😎

    • @prisillakimani3590
      @prisillakimani3590 Před 3 lety +4

      Mee to!

    • @emfarah3758
      @emfarah3758 Před 3 lety +5

      I watched it when it came out on cable. I watched it 92 or 93 as a kid. I was entertained and enjoyed the different personality and the charming community

    • @harriettubman337
      @harriettubman337 Před 3 lety +2

      Google how they also felt used by the producers and how they were misrepresented. It's on CZcams.

  • @oralexpert2326
    @oralexpert2326 Před 3 lety +90

    Initially, I resisted watching Pose. I was worried it would not do justice to the ballroom community. I actually knew all these people and I feared it would be some fictitious piece of nonsense. I am glad my friend finally convinced me to watch. The show really did justice to their legacies. With sadness and anticipation, I await the final season. I am thankful to have relived those days though the magic of television. Mother Avis Pendarvis, Angie Xtravaganza, Dorian Corey, and Octavia St. Laurent Rest In Paradise.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +7

      Much respect to you thanks for the knowledge 💞

    • @donnabrown1549
      @donnabrown1549 Před 3 lety +3

      I love this show incredible music, fabulous characters and amazing history that needs to be shared.

    • @user-nq1fm7xs2f
      @user-nq1fm7xs2f Před 7 měsíci

      And Hector X!!!

  • @cherhorroritz3298
    @cherhorroritz3298 Před rokem +14

    Candy’s story broke my heart. I’m a SW and one of my clients went to prison for murdering another worker at the same time season 1 came out so her story hit me on a personal level.
    It’s so heartbreaking that she never got to own the lip sync catogory and I do think her character was treated like a joke at times.
    Candy Furiousity you will always be famous 🖤

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před rokem +1

      🤗🤗😘Sorry to hear you went through that. Lots of love x

    • @cherhorroritz3298
      @cherhorroritz3298 Před rokem

      @@princessamani thank you for making your videos ✨

  • @ketreenawilliams1320
    @ketreenawilliams1320 Před 3 lety +59

    Candy even sounds like Venus it's so uncanny. Even having similar deaths...WOW!

  • @antoniamcgregor3285
    @antoniamcgregor3285 Před 3 lety +295

    I'm cis but have been doing research on paris is burning after watching pose venus and Dorian s stories really captivated me so much this part of lgbtq history is fascinating I feel like I have been educated which I am grateful for, in the past I have been ignorant about queer and trans people but I'm learning to be a better ally ❤️🤗😊💕

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +15

      Aww thanks that's so kind. Glad you are enjoying learning such a rich history! 💞

    • @ezekel.4656
      @ezekel.4656 Před 3 lety +5

      Thank you for being an ally!!! ❤️❤️

    • @toxicdswii
      @toxicdswii Před 3 lety +4

      Preach girl, preachhh.

    • @lolitabubbles26
      @lolitabubbles26 Před 3 lety +21

      Please watch Life After Paris is Burning. It details everything that happened up to the point of filming and this time is directed by a person of color who paid the talent a fair wage. Paris is Burning is a great primer to introduce people into the ball scene and a snapshot of being a trans person of color during the AIDS crisis, but the behind the scenes tomfoolery that went down will really put things into perspective. Like the documentarian being a cis straight white woman with an all-white crew. Among other things.

    • @oralexpert2326
      @oralexpert2326 Před 3 lety +12

      Fun fact: I had been in Dorian's apartment several times and had no clue about the body in the closet until she passed. lol

  • @changes649
    @changes649 Před 3 lety +452

    Great video. I think that Venus Extraganza was also an inspiration for Angel on Pose. When Angel was at Candy's funeral she said "It should have been me" indicating to me that she was portraying Venus. Venus was a model and was passing for female easily. Pose is a great show and you did a great job on this video. Kudos to you.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +27

      Thank you for this sweet comment, I really appreciate it. Yes I can definitely see some of Venus in Angel too. Much love 💞

    • @yaelfeder9042
      @yaelfeder9042 Před 3 lety +25

      I think in season two, it’s imagining what would’ve happen if Venus lived, which makes the whole thing even more tragic💔

    • @kaylall3106
      @kaylall3106 Před 3 lety +56

      I actually got the chance to speak to creator Steven Canals last week when he did a Q&A session with my school and he said that Angel was his idea of Venus if she hadn't died.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +14

      Wow thanks for this!

    • @blackbarbie8rua4
      @blackbarbie8rua4 Před 3 lety +5

      venus wasnt modeling she WANTED to model get it right

  • @judithchen9394
    @judithchen9394 Před 3 lety +108

    I use to hang out with Willie, Sandy, Scottie, Everette and so many others. It was Willie that taught this straight girl how to walk on the catwalk. I did quite a few fashion shows with the crew. Sorry to hear he is no longer here!

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +14

      Wow I wish I had taken a walking class with Willi. Much love and thanks for sharing this

    • @ren17x50
      @ren17x50 Před 2 lety +6

      Willi was dangerous on the dancefloor from the videos I've seen. Amazing artist

    • @user-nq1fm7xs2f
      @user-nq1fm7xs2f Před 7 měsíci

      Willie departed us in 2006.

  • @misspotential
    @misspotential Před 3 lety +118

    I feel like they didn’t know what to do with candy because until candy’s death I associated Angel with Venus as she was always at the piers and dreamed of having a housewife life which is what Angel was telling stan. Then they went a different way with Angel and candy took the rest of the Venus storyline.

    • @SapphireBurns
      @SapphireBurns Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah though I'm happy they spared Angel, I'm also sad that they had to take candy.

    • @jazwhoaskedforthis
      @jazwhoaskedforthis Před 2 lety +13

      I think Angel was originally intended to share Venus's fate, but people loved her too much

    • @yourbestay
      @yourbestay Před 8 měsíci +3

      To me, Angel is a love letter to Venus. In the end, she was able to marry a man and raise a child, something that Venus dreamed of. She was a representative of what could’ve been for Venus which is very bittersweet.

  • @lucio.martinez
    @lucio.martinez Před 3 lety +62

    This is beautiful gay, and gay adjacent, history, culture and class!
    Learn children, learn!
    Don't be a weak link, be a force to be reckoned with, respected.

  • @thugmonk9837
    @thugmonk9837 Před 3 lety +184

    Man I wish I had a mother like Blanca

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +27

      Blancas such a good mom right 🤗

    • @thugmonk9837
      @thugmonk9837 Před 3 lety +19

      @@princessamani yeah she's a beautiful woman. Inside and out

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +17

      100% can’t wait for season 3

  • @bruhlmao6177
    @bruhlmao6177 Před 3 lety +81

    This is kinda unrelated but you have such a nice calming voice

  • @jaydenjames2754
    @jaydenjames2754 Před 3 lety +39

    Wow I always thought that Angel character was based off of Tracy Africa. She paved the way for a lot of girls, she crawled so they could walk!

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +6

      I totally agree, Octavia too 💖

    • @jaydenjames2754
      @jaydenjames2754 Před 3 lety +1

      @@princessamani Absolutely! She was always one of my favorite face girls. She was so beautiful!

  • @DavidHHH99
    @DavidHHH99 Před 3 lety +25

    In addition to the condom over the house demonstration, the demonstration in the Holy Cross Cathedral was based on a real ACT UP demonstration there called Stop the Church.

  • @carlos-ricardochambers8486
    @carlos-ricardochambers8486 Před 3 lety +68

    Angie Xtravaganza IS Blanca not Avis Pendhavis. Angel is a combination of Octavia St.Laurent but the sweetness & little-girl-lost manner & beauty was all Venus Xtravaganza. PERIOD. I was there. Knew half The Children in "Paris is Burning" & lived the life in the clubs with them in the mid 80s..It was EVERYTHING & "Pose" only captures bits of it. The reality can't be brought to the screen. It was a surreal world that existed in full view of everyone while at the same time being "Underground"in N.Y.C...R.I.P. to the original & now gentrified Pier in The Village where much of it all went down after dark with Music..Voguing..Drinking.Smoking.Cruising & Catfights between warring houses. Think : outdoor club for people who had no place to go at a time when the cops just let us be..Good times.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +12

      Thank you for the knowledge, much respect. The similarities I saw with Avis was the fact that she really pushed the education side of things which is similar to Blanca. But I agree, the main influence does seem to be Angie.

    • @oralexpert2326
      @oralexpert2326 Před 3 lety +5

      You are correct about Blanca, she is more Angie. While Avis was loving, and encouraged her children to live beyond the confines of the ballroom, she wasn't having the kids live in her house. Period.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +4

      Thanks for educating us

    • @user-nq1fm7xs2f
      @user-nq1fm7xs2f Před 7 měsíci

      Hahaha, yes, I used to work on W4th St btwn 6th & 7th Ave so you know what kinda trade passed back & forth on that block. Nearly all those kids had run thru the store trying to shoplift but they stopped when they realized I knew what's up. I howled at the part in PIB where the kid was breaking down Mopping 😂.

  • @1DJSkittles
    @1DJSkittles Před 3 lety +184

    It's so sad, we have so much more of a story to tell and it's ending this season. Why can't our story be told

  • @b.e.lawson1368
    @b.e.lawson1368 Před 2 lety +31

    I wish Venus would get the justice she deserves.

  • @guccir3894
    @guccir3894 Před 3 lety +8

    It's really heartbreaking to see how many of our icons passed away from a battle with AIDS. It's also sad to see how no one has ever been charged with that murder, 150% because the police didn't care to find out. But on a brighter note, it's also very liberating to see where ballroom started to where it is now. By POC, for POC....we are a force to be reckoned with. And I also need to add that I wuz here for Crystal's friend in the background "don't you tell her she's showing her colors!!!" Lmaooo

  • @TonyAltrudebta
    @TonyAltrudebta Před 11 měsíci +7

    I think Elektra was also based on Pepper Labeija. Also from Paris Is Burning. Ricky is definitely based on Freddie Pendavis, also from Paris Is Burning. Ricky and Damon relationship almost mirrored Freddie and his lover in the documentary.

  • @Robbiestarduzt
    @Robbiestarduzt Před 2 lety +7

    Crystal saying “DONTTTTT GO” iconic Dominique embodied her so well!

  • @evanzwilling929
    @evanzwilling929 Před 3 lety +26

    I'm so glad I lived though that era in NYC and witness it first hand

    • @Riux1000
      @Riux1000 Před 3 lety +4

      I hope at some point you could make a video or blog telling us about it!

    • @detriotman
      @detriotman Před 3 lety +3

      Time for a CZcams channel and a book.

  • @geckohunter123
    @geckohunter123 Před 3 lety +30

    Also I love the detail that in “The Cocoon” you’ll notice Miss Orlando bears a striking resemblance to Dorian Corey as she’s teaching Electra to hide the body.

    • @aaronakinyemi6095
      @aaronakinyemi6095 Před 2 lety +1

      wow good point! So many hidden details I had absolutely no idea about until watching this video and reading these fascinating comments! Thank you @princessamani for the video!

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for watching, I just uploaded another video about Paris is Burning

    • @PhoenixYah
      @PhoenixYah Před 2 lety +1

      I was surprised to learn that was based on actual situation I've only seen two seasons on Netflix will have to wait for third season.

  • @rickyparrilla2426
    @rickyparrilla2426 Před 2 lety +11

    Venus Extravaganza was so much fun to be with. As small as she was she was a big riot to hang with. We had so many laughs together. I was heartbroken when I was told of her murder and how her little body was discovered. The whole House of Extravaganza was so saddened by her death. Her boyfriend at the time Rican, took it really bad. I ran into him shortly after her death happened one morning on my way to work. I believe it was January 1989, I could be wrong but I was happy to see him even though I can tell he was taking her passing very hard. We spoke for a couple of minutes I gave him a hug and some money and told him to stay strong. I ran into rican a few times during the years and he is doing much better thank god.
    So many have passed away from that era sad to say. They would be so happy to know they have not been forgotten and there names and faces are known world wide due to Paris is Burning and how the Ballroom scene has evolved world wide also. I miss them dearly and learned a lot from them. RIP. EXTRAVAGANZA Power forever!!!🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for this beautiful comment Ricky. Lots of love 💖

    • @user-nq1fm7xs2f
      @user-nq1fm7xs2f Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hector X! I miss him! We used to run into each other every few years in the oddest of places, have a maaad kiki for a few minutes then spin off til the next time 4 yrs later lol. Beautiful, kind, brave, generous, wise. The last time I saw him, he told me Stay beautiful, stay moist 😢😅.

    • @LannieLord
      @LannieLord Před 6 měsíci

      So did this boyfriend KNOW that Venus was going to hotel rooms with random men ????? @@user-nq1fm7xs2f

  • @emilyetcetera6233
    @emilyetcetera6233 Před 3 lety +42

    I'm not ready for this iconic show to end. I love everything about these stories and I worry so much that it will be a long time before we get to hear about them again.

  • @yvonnenc
    @yvonnenc Před 3 lety +272

    Of course the legendary drag queen has a body in the closet lmao😂 How iconic

  • @sucramlove1677
    @sucramlove1677 Před 3 lety +22

    I would say cubby was inspired by the boy in blue @ 15:26

  • @shawnalynn5198
    @shawnalynn5198 Před 3 lety +25

    Great video! I'm a cis woman but I've been so enamored with ballroom culture ever since I saw Paris is Burning in my early 20s. Like a lot of people I had reservations about Pose when I first heard about it, but it's such an amazing show and I'm so glad they've been able to introduce that culture and history to a whole new generation of people ❤️ This video was really informative and I can tell you really did your research, I learned a few new things from this so thank you! Also you have a lovely voice. Please keep making videos like this!

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks so much for this lovely comment, I really appreciate it x

  • @nim3408
    @nim3408 Před 3 lety +34

    I remember some of those Historic events especially the condom covered house.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for watching ❤️

    • @nim3408
      @nim3408 Před 3 lety +1

      @@princessamani You're WELCOME! I'm a FAN now! Thank YOU for your channel!

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you that is so sweet, I have more content coming soon

  • @noeldunsky
    @noeldunsky Před 3 lety +31

    OMG, thank you for this eye-opening his\herstory lesson! POSE is an amazing show and I can't wait for season 3. But just remember one thing: Elektra is not just a queen, she is THE EMPRESS of Ballroom and the VOICE of the marginalized...Her scene reading that clueless privilged white Hamptons girl is BEYOND LEGENDARY....LONG LIVE ELEKTRA !! XOXO from Tel Aviv...:)

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +3

      Such a legendary scene, thanks for watching

  • @mwv1217
    @mwv1217 Před rokem +30

    While watching the show I felt let down by Candy's storyline because they bashed her so much when even when she was doing well and then they built her up with Candy's Sweet Refrain but they only did it when they found out she was dead as tribute to someone they bullied

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před rokem +5

      Right!💖 Especially Pray

    • @mwv1217
      @mwv1217 Před rokem +2

      @@princessamani there were several moments throughout the series that were plot holes or poorly written. When Elektra was flipping tables in other people's houses for a few episodes only to tell I think it was Damon that he had to have respect. When Frederica said that her only regret was that another woman had her business destroyed she kept flip flopping between good and evil. I think it was to make them seem more kindhearted and less one dimensional but it was really messy and confusing.

  • @trevoniese38
    @trevoniese38 Před 3 lety +60

    Pose is life changing wether or not you are a member of the LGBTQ community

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +1

      100% has really changed my life for the better

  • @porschekaiwi9104
    @porschekaiwi9104 Před 3 lety +41

    Look up Sade Pendavis. That talent was completely unparalleled. Nicky was all of us in NYC and beyond for so many jaw-dropping performances. A true talent. As all are of us. NYC in the 90’s really was insane. I’m so many ways. Thank you for posting this on CZcams. Stunnnnnzzzzzzz

  • @ashleysantiago4683
    @ashleysantiago4683 Před 3 lety +50

    I wish I was born during this time. I love the lgbtq community I would’ve been the only straight girl around a bunch of beautiful people back in the 80s and 90s. I’m so obsessed 😍 I wish this wasn’t the last season of pose

    • @vanill3794
      @vanill3794 Před 3 lety +13

      There were a lot of straight people enjoying the ball at the time.

    • @mikaylablackwood5286
      @mikaylablackwood5286 Před 2 lety +1

      girl I feel you, I wasn't even a thought yet in my parents minds but I like to believe that If I were around this time. Then I would've been along for the ride with you as two straight girls hyping these queens up. Borrowing them my make up, helping them dodge trashy cheating boyfriends like Ricky and nursing those that fell victim to the virus.

  • @chickennuggets5180
    @chickennuggets5180 Před 3 lety +17

    Angie and hector beat up a man together..... sounds like Blanca and papi with the photographer👀

  • @RSPerez
    @RSPerez Před 2 lety +7

    I tear up whenever I hear Venus’ story, it does truly break my heart.

  • @christownsend7552
    @christownsend7552 Před 3 lety +13

    When I saw the scene with Aphrodite Xtravaganza- I literally GASPED.

  • @kennyroyal8572
    @kennyroyal8572 Před 3 lety +29

    Thank you posting this and I had most of them right except for two. I hate the fact that this is the last season of Pose, but it'll go down in television history as a groundbreaking show with a predominantly transgendered cast. As a gay man, transgendered men and women all around the world are brave; and I have much love and respect to you all ❤❤❤❤.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +2

      I agree! I hate that it's the last season too, but it will absolutely go down in history. It has helped me so much in my journey to finding and being myself. Much love

    • @danf5184
      @danf5184 Před 3 lety +1

      I heard theres a new season coming out on May of this yr

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +2

      May 2nd!

  • @snowieskiesabove
    @snowieskiesabove Před 3 lety +12

    Your voice sounds like silk! Can’t wait to watch you blow up this is so well done

  • @dreamingtree6093
    @dreamingtree6093 Před 3 lety +21

    RIP DORIAN COREY💜💚💋

  • @mrsmltl6858
    @mrsmltl6858 Před 2 lety +6

    I just finished the series last night, cried hysterically, then watched this and cried more. I love this show more knowing it was based on real beautiful humans ❤️ thank you for this teachable video!

  • @meumnomen
    @meumnomen Před 3 lety +18

    Dorian is my favorite, there's just something about her that draws me in.

  • @mishagameekg1210
    @mishagameekg1210 Před 3 lety +9

    There's a song from Blood Orange called Desirée, it has one of Venus' clips from PIB. Just beautiful.

  • @theembersinside1420
    @theembersinside1420 Před 3 lety +16

    Thank you for making this video!! Its a shame that so many people don't know this rich history. I tear up every time I hear Venus Extravaganza's story. You're SO correct that this needs to be taught to LGBT+ people, especially, so they know where the history of all of this comes from. I hear so many non-Black young people saying "realness" & "shade" & its sad to think they prob think its from Rupaul's Drag Race. Even the words "the drag race" came from these times. Great job on this very important topic!👏🏻

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you so much for your sweet comment, really means a lot 💖💖

  • @milhouseburns
    @milhouseburns Před 3 lety +22

    watching PiB made me want to go back in time to protect Venus from whoever killed her

  • @piscesinadream
    @piscesinadream Před 2 lety +21

    I feel that Candy and Elektra are portrayed as strong and fierce forces to be reckoned with. I loved their characters!

  • @SexyButCurious
    @SexyButCurious Před 3 lety +9

    That thing mentioned at the end just made me realized why madonna and her dancers dressed as Marie Antoinette when she performed Vogue at the MTV music awards! I was just 4 when she performed that but if I'm wrong than I'm sorry.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +2

      Omg I wish I had made this connection before making the video! You’re so right thank you for pointing out 💖🤗

  • @amybucher5439
    @amybucher5439 Před 11 dny

    “Opulence! You own everything.” Such an iconic line!

  • @forever.meimei
    @forever.meimei Před rokem +4

    "You know, just stuff like that ... " in such a matter of fact tone, really shows how normal this was as if she kinda had to expect it! It hurts how this was their reality.

  • @Nanancay
    @Nanancay Před 2 lety +6

    Your voice is so relaxing 😭 and I LOVE THIS SHOW, from those of us not even in the LGBT community but appreciate the culture and the ART and the struggles that the movement brings. It’s a miracle this show exists, I hope this show gives people a deeper understanding of the LGBT and individual trans experiences as a whole.

  • @ChocolateGumDrop89
    @ChocolateGumDrop89 Před 3 lety +107

    I’m really not ready for this to be the last season I wish they would make more seasons we need more lgbt representation I don’t understand why they’d pull this show so fast I don’t like that

  • @kayenny9971
    @kayenny9971 Před 3 lety +8

    It's heartbreaking to see so many beautiful and talented woman to have sad endings like that. I cried in every episode of this show, it really shows a lot about shit that trans woman had to deal everyday and how strong they are, I wish I could protect them all 🥺

  • @FoxtaleHi
    @FoxtaleHi Před 2 lety +8

    I knew the bdsm client of elektras being in her closet seemed like a real story I had read.
    Thanks for this video

  • @PS-cb9il
    @PS-cb9il Před 2 lety +6

    I love this show, it really made me sympathise the plight of AIDS victims and those in the LGBTQi community.

  • @dorothysalemiamovaghar2766
    @dorothysalemiamovaghar2766 Před 3 lety +14

    I so loved this show. I was reluctant to watch it at first. However, this turned into my number one series of all. The struggles these people went through was admirable. I love each character and their pursuit in life and love. Beautifully done with class and that is what attracted me to this series. Xo

  • @homehelpheart7440
    @homehelpheart7440 Před 3 lety +8

    Very interesting video! The first time I watched Pose was after it made the transition to Netflix. I immediately became a fan of the show and watched every episode available. I fell in love with so many of the characters, but especially Blanca. It is really cool to see who these characters were based on in the early ball scene. Though I am a straight cis woman, I participated in a similar ball culture in the early mid 80s with many of my wonderful drag friends who are no longer with us. Every time you mentioned a member of early ball culture dying of AIDS, it took me back to the deaths of my three closest friends in 1989, 1991 and 1993. Best of luck with your transition! 💓

  • @Chaos-Retribution
    @Chaos-Retribution Před rokem +3

    The world feeds heartily off of Black American culture.

  • @rougaroo642
    @rougaroo642 Před 3 lety +16

    What an entertaining, educational, and thoroughly researched video! Thanks for putting it together and honoring the show’s inspirations. Donated, sending you peace and love from the U.S.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you so much for your donation Megan it means a lot. Thanks for watching too

  • @leonievasa
    @leonievasa Před 3 lety +5

    Angie seemed to have been such a strong and caring mother and that in her 20s already! Wow.

  • @mz.punkin7669
    @mz.punkin7669 Před rokem +3

    I started watching Pose during the Pandemic shut down and bing watched the entire season it was Fabulous Bravo to all the cast well done.

  • @roycegang1
    @roycegang1 Před rokem +3

    THANK YOU FOR EDUCATION ME ON THE ONES WHO PAVED THE WAY! I AM A HETEROSEXUAL BIO WOMAN WHO ENJOYS BALLROOM, LGBTQ 🏳️‍🌈 CULTURE, AND DRAG DARLING! SO I’M INTO CURRENT DAY PHRASES, EVENTS, etc. BUT TO FIND OUT HOW MY CURRENT FAVORITE MOMENTS ARE ACTUALLY HISTORICAL LEGENDARY MOMENTS REMADE! IM IN SUCH AWE! Thank you! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @princessamani
    @princessamani  Před 3 lety +13

    Hey everyone, thank you for all of the support on this video. It means the world to me. More content will be coming soon. I also felt a need to say, that if you leave a comment gas lighting the dark skinned queer community about colorism, your comment will be automatically deleted. Love and Light and see you soon with a new video xxx

  • @princessgrace66
    @princessgrace66 Před 2 lety +1

    This post made my day..Those were the good ole days in NYC...Sadly most of my Friends have passed...

  • @Hoofer26
    @Hoofer26 Před 3 lety +7

    Your voice is so soothing and lovely! Thank you for this!

  • @raff6991
    @raff6991 Před 3 lety +11

    What a masterclass! Thank you for this!

  • @CocinaconMisha
    @CocinaconMisha Před 2 lety +4

    Carmen Xtravaganza is a very good friend of mine. If I always admired her, I am admiring her even more. Now her story will always be for everyone to know, to enjoy to love. 😘

  • @michikomanalang6733
    @michikomanalang6733 Před 8 měsíci +1

    your voice is so warm and gentle, it’s perfect for telling stories/history

  • @wishingstar8924
    @wishingstar8924 Před 3 lety +6

    I haven’t seen many POSE related videos; I’m so glad you’re talking about the phenomenal show POSE!

  • @kaleahcollins4567
    @kaleahcollins4567 Před 3 lety +16

    Angel is more like VENUS EXTRAVAGANZA AND OCTAVIA ST LAURENT

  • @tequilapapii5936
    @tequilapapii5936 Před 3 lety +16

    I love how Amani is talking as if he’s trying to keep the volume down for his roommate or something 😂 🥴 👏🏽

  • @yaelfeder9042
    @yaelfeder9042 Před 3 lety +83

    Sometimes, I wonder if the “light-skinned characters” are non-black but just Latina played by Afro-Latina people because they never actually specified if Angel and Blanca were Afro-Latina despite having some of the phenotypes. They were just said to be Dominican and Puerto Rican. This makes the colorism aspect even worse. Still, it’s one of my all-time favorite programs even with the implicit bias situation.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety +12

      Thanks for your comment, I agree!

    • @MuunTheFIre
      @MuunTheFIre Před 3 lety +8

      The way I’ve been screaming this.

    • @lolitabubbles26
      @lolitabubbles26 Před 3 lety +27

      Well it is technically accurate in the ballroom scene that it was both black and brown people. And if Blanca was based off of Angie Xtravaganza--who was Puerto Rican, it makes sense. I do whole-heartedly, 100% agree that Candy's character should not have been killed off. We all know they're trying to educate the straights on the realities of being a trans woman of color, but there is zero excuse for killing one of the most sympathetic characters who had so much room to grow--not to mention Angelica Ross was one of the best actresses in the show. Period.

    • @Hermi0Taurus
      @Hermi0Taurus Před 3 lety +6

      @@lolitabubbles26 Thinking more about it and reading more on people's displeasure with Candy's early death, I believe it's more or less that the writers didn't "earn" the death yet. Even if it's just "you don't get to know them before they're gone," that's can't work with a television show that *had* the time to get us to know them. For example, people said it'd be *more* of a teachable moment AND "earned" had Angel been the one to be cut short, since we knew enough about her and it would have hit MUCH harder for the audience AND the characters.
      Instead, Candy's the one chosen and the only information we get out of her before she went was that she wanted to be "seen" and the many moments where she's swinging that hammer. Not to say that Angel being written off in such a way would've been an "improvement," but the season *did* start with the reveal that a photographer she was sent to for "professional shots" already clocked her and threatened to expose her after having her undress and unwillingly take those photos as "payment." A far better setup compared to last minute information from a weeping Lulu that Candy doesn riskier sex work at a rundown hotel to keep up with bills.

    • @shannacollins8371
      @shannacollins8371 Před 2 lety +1

      Not really, since Afro Latinos are still Black.

  • @elizabetquina2214
    @elizabetquina2214 Před 2 lety +4

    I just finished the series and I was balling in almost all of them! 😭🥺 It was such a wonderful, beautiful and eye opening series. Being born in ‘95 sometimes we do not know these past histories so it was an eye opening series for me! It made me appreciate all members from our rainbow even more! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @queenofweaves916
    @queenofweaves916 Před 3 lety +5

    New subscriber! Fantastic video! I remember going to the movies as a teenager to see Paris is burning. What an iconic film that was. It literally transcended peoples expectations and changed mainstream culture.

  • @mimzilla8623
    @mimzilla8623 Před 3 lety +5

    This was excellent thank you for educating us 💚

  • @taiyonnii
    @taiyonnii Před rokem +1

    There will never be another show like POSE, its tribute to ballroom culture, awareness of LGBTQ+ hate crimes and violence, and the AIDS epidemic from the 80s-90s were all executed with grace and left a statement.

  • @SoundBlackRecordings
    @SoundBlackRecordings Před 3 lety +16

    Oh my gawd about Candy. I was so pissed. Everything bad was put on the dark girls especially Candy.

  • @natoshiapurnell5652
    @natoshiapurnell5652 Před 3 lety +3

    Your voice is so soothing. Much Love👑💕💕💕💕💕💕

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 Před 3 lety +2

    So based on this during the final season of Pose:
    (1) Damon Richards-Evangelista (played by Ryan Jamal Swain) gets infected with HIV and later passes away from AIDS;
    (2) Blanca Rodriguez-Evangelista (played by Mj Rodriguez) dies of AIDS.

    • @princessamani
      @princessamani  Před 3 lety

      Chile I hope they dont make Blanca pass away I don't think I could handle it

  • @mirafloyd5756
    @mirafloyd5756 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thanks for doing a deep dive on the character inspiration! And thank you for touching on colorism & violence against the trans community (particularly black trans women).

  • @sistasoler77
    @sistasoler77 Před 3 lety +5

    Love these receipts!!! Thank you for highlighting these amazing people's history.

  • @sheliaclemmons-mckay1354
    @sheliaclemmons-mckay1354 Před 3 lety +4

    Just watched this series, on Netflix and loved every essence of it. BRAVO 👏🏾 THE BEST!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💐💐💓💓🙏🏾