The Genres of Western Learning: Novels, Plays, Poems, Essays and Treatises
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- Video 6 in the Freedom Academy's "Western Story" series hosted by Victor Davis Hanson.
In this video:
The Greeks, as the saying goes, had a word for it - and rules to go with
it. Classical authors who worked within a given literary genre always
followed those rules, which governed their vocabulary, meter, style,
form, content and length. The modern world has rejected these rules in
the name of freedom, but this has not served so much to free the author
as to confuse him, and his audience too.
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Each one of these lectures should have a million views.
Dear god he is a top shelf mind. If you want to have a fully complete worldview, surround yourself and allow your mind and its faculties to be steered by the likes of Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Nassim Taleb, Mark Spitznagel, Niall Ferguson, Peter Thiel, Matt Ridley, Roger Scruton, Albert Barabasi and Ed Thorp. With these, you are complete!
Amen to that 👍
Who would have thought I would be interested in ancient literature? VDH makes the subject matter relevant to our current world and I certainly enjoy these presentations. Thank you again AMA and VDH.
Participation elevated over excellence.The rejection of standards the acceptance of mediocre.
Thank you Mr. Hanson for your wisdom and knowledge. You are invaluable to us!
I found this really helpful and educational. I'm always trying to really understand "art appreciation" and this presentation by Victor Davis Hansen and his other presentations in this series deepen my ability to "see" better and broaden my understanding. I love this and his books.
It’s as if most ‘educated individuals’ emphasize very discreetly and meticulously the fact they paid their dues for University to attain such knowledge therefore we MUST talk so audaciously for fear of some minority deciphering any means of the topic. How dare he gives so generously. Haha. That’s the attitude I receive when trying to find clarity within these genres. So I sure do appreciate this as well as your ability to effortlessly explain some very challenging themes. Great video !!
Victor Davis Hanson is a great lecturer. And this topic was so interesting to me! I support the idea that modern and especially post-modern art is very confusing and chayotic in comparison to classic art which is so very relaxing and pleasant... And also IMHO it's easy to explain why modern or post-modern art is so popular - simply because it's so much easier to create! Like that banana that was glued to the wall🤦♂️ I'm 19 y.o. and I've read some classical works of Seneca the Younger and Homer and Plato and that was a great experience ! I think I like this people from 2000 years ago more than many people of my own age.
Brilliant as usual
The grotesque is a style of Roman (classical) art that is a reaction against classical idealism. The word 'grotesque' itself comes from Nero's grotto.
This is revitalizing. It's good to know that the modernists at least had an inkling of the rules they were breaking. There's a challenge in there. Now I'm off to listen to King Crimson's Discipline.
Thank you for rejuvenating my interest in not only history, but also art and culture.
In terms of introducing new art forms, the same principle applies for all matters of conservatism vs Liberalism - some of the new, the chaotic, the break with tradition is necessary to rejuvenate the old order, to evolve beyond its limitations to assimilate something bountiful. But going too far will undermine and destroy the art itself.
Also, the Sydney Opera House is not post-modernist, it's based on the sails of the ships that landed nearby when Europeans discovered Australia. I think it looks great.
I've never seen this discussed, but I've often thought it an interesting question: was the development of impressionism (1860s) influenced by the availability photographic technology (1830s and '40s)?
I wish I could steer you to sources, but, yes, many scholars and artists have pointed out that after the development of photography, painting moved away from a literal copying of what the eye sees to a freer expression, including various reactions of the mind to what is seen.
Brilliant! Thank you.
As the progression of the zodiac occurs conscientiousness changes. No so much changes that start in the head but in feeling or the heart. The spiritual dimensions effecting the physical dimension, which is one of the spiritual dimensions. Much as how Greeks could see the god at a spring because they could remember this different consciousness seeing other dimensions that was their history. As the Greeks and many others cultures pointed out it is not progress or regression but cyclic corresponding to the zodiac. That in turn being projected from the god within.
I’m surprised VDH doesn’t know why painters of the late 19th century moved away from realism. They moved away towards abstract art after the invention of daguerrotype (photography); why would anyone need an artist to paint a portrait if they can just have their picture taken?
The Camera changed art from realism to modern
The sad result of postmodernism is rejection of all that is natural. The end point, one can only hope, is a capsule containing a colorful powder made from a dozen "fruits and veggies". No need to chew, no need to eat a balanced diet. Apparently, it's the postmodern fountain of youth, all in one little capsule. I wonder what Aristotle would have thought?
The reason artists turned away from realism is due to the invention of photography in the middle of the 19th century. Photography ate into the income of artists who relied on portrait painting so to stay in business they turned to different styles to distinguish themselves from photography. At first it was a stylized realism like impressionism and cubism. The concurrent rise of atheism drove art further from reality and thus further from the depiction of God’s Creation. Abstract art becomes another means to eliminate man’s fear of God and thus pave the way for socialism. The combination of advances in technology and the rise of atheism also accounts for the radical changes in the other disciplines including architecture, literature, and music. The decline in standards arising from a general decline in the average IQ of the population arising from miscegenation also contributes to a decline in beauty. I discuss this topic in great detail in my book “God and Wealth The Rise and Fall of Nations”,
Victor is coming off a bit "Get off my lawn!" with this one! I get his points but really appreciate many of the rules broken. Those that just spit at a cup and call it art need to just be ignored. It's the creeps that prop up stuff like that as art that are the problem. Something most people enjoy should be celebrated and encouraged for everything else.
Interestingly i have been slightly annoyed this entire series by the columns in the cgi graphic framing the backdrop because they are not proper. The series and content is excellent though.
At 3:50, I've heard there is a lot of discussion in academic circles on whether that is a fake statue or not. Its in the Getty Museum in Malibu CA
This reminded me of the modern “shitposting” the Greeks did on amphora.
Unbelievable this resource is
Postmodernism is pure regression
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To answered the last question , I'm going to say it's regression.
very interesting
The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.
( - Stephen Hawking ? )
Partially agree but let's not forget that in the 19 th century camera was invented and captured images more realistic so obviously artists can't go with realism any further , they should find new way of expression that we couldn't have by a camera . In poetry, the new definition of poetry in 19th century is fantastic because they will be no prior form that readers should Exepect , what to say is related to how you say it because forms are not objective things they have meanings . Even though if an American express artistically just the same as a Greek and there is thousands of years that separate the two , sorry that's not art that's copy and past that's not creativity that's tradition
0:36 Heyyy my hometown civic center!
ALSO PHOTOGRAPHY PLAYED A PART
in our modern society, one is able to shit in a tin can, like Manzoni did and everyone will pretend, that it was art. Just shows how degenerated we are
Someone once said.. Novelist Samuel Butler, That Homer had a high probability that a women wrote it...When there is little known about Homer to start with...I come to the conclusion. That they were written by several people. Coming from several points of view over the years. Then canonized into the stories we know today...
You forgot the invention of photography.
post-modernism finished in the 80s with the rise of anime and manga. you know it's true.
Then along came hentai.
something can be acknowledged as being great art, but you don't have to like it.
Sooo, we should all be watching 2000 yr old plays and that's it?
That's what I do.
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Interestingly i have been slightly annoyed this entire series by the columns in the cgi graphic framing the backdrop because they are not proper. The series and content is excellent though.