Conservative Party | Edward Heath Interview | This Week | 1972
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- After two years in power the Prime Minister Edward Heath discusses the state of the nation and the growing concerns over inflation and unemployment with Journalist Jonathan Dimbleby
First: 15/06/1972
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When I listen to both Heath and Wilson and compare them to modern politicians, they seem like geniuses!
Politicians of that period - and before - are of a different class from the imbeciles of today. Heath was one of my heroes.
Far more straight talking than today's politicians
Ted Heath's accent was a curious mixture of rural Kent & Oxford English. There's no denying he was a very intelligent articulate man with a distinguished war record!
See the monty python song they made about his accent
Clear and concise, quite the opposite of what were used to seeing today.
Heath comes across well
8:10 - A box of groceries in 1972 costs £6 according to Jonathan here. In 2019 money valuation that box of groceries would cost £81.00.
Did you expect it to STILL cost £6 in 2019 ? What is your point ? Excessive inflation ?
@@TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 No, I am not stupid. I am just trying to explain to those viewing this, the cost of purchasing power has changed dramatically since 1972. I am not thick headed.
@@johnking5174 I don't think for one minute you are stupid or thick headed John. As your surname alludes you are a King amongst men. I was just asking a question. I come in peace my friend. Take care.x
@@TheDOJ-n9teen6t8 Thanks
Though, your point, in essence IS inflation.
The average weekly wage in 1972 was around £30 to £35. This meant in one year someone would earn around £1,800 per year. This would be taxed at 30%. Meaning after income tax they would have £1,260 per year. Adjusting for inflation that would be worth in 2019 around £17,000 a year salary.
The cost of housing though was a very different matter. In the seventies a man on a modest income could manage to buy a home, run a small car, pay the household bills and even manage an annual holiday by the sea. Mum could stay at home, she cooked real food and ran the home, most kids then looked clean and healthy and weren't obese. Now kids are dumped off in nurseries to be 'looked after' by other people, while mum has to go out to work so that the mortgage and council tax can be paid.
@@oli230 When I go into Tesco to do my shopping I am still shocked at the cost of living in 2020
John King yes I am shocked too, the cost of goods rises steeply sometimes, not just a penny or two. If that continues even a basic standard of living will be impossible for many.
Surely the personal allowance (I.e 0% income tax bracket) still existed in 1972.
Good wage
His oratory style is almost Thatcher-esque in parts of this!
I hear it! A very confident and confrontational tone.
That was a " Beautifully Tailored Suit " Mister Heath was wearing !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
Somethings never change
Ted Heath's father was a carpenter and his mother a maid - maybe Britain wasn't permeated with a class consciousness that inhibited peoples ambitions.
he went to grammar school [poor man's public schools] and Oxford......this is where he got a bit of polish removing the spit of 'is 'umble origins.
Britain's class nonsense would never float in the U.S..
Heath's father was a station porter
@@stephenchappell7512 I can't find any sources that say that. Several say he was a capenter - _'Ted Heath's father started his working life as a carpenter and later bettered himself to become a master builder'_ The Independent Obituary 18th July 2005.
@@marklynch5149
Apologies it was actually his Paternal Grandfather at Broadstairs Railway Station
Is that Ollie from The Thick of It?
Heath’s unexpected victory in the 1970 General Election gave him over confidence in his own judgement which led to the disaster of the 3 day week, the state of emergency and the miners strike. He was a dreadful PM who sulked for the rest of his life after defeat in 1974.
He was elected entirely due to the apathy of Labour voters.
Yet he received more votes than Labor in 1974. 46%. Imagine any party getting 46%. His sulk ended when Thatcher was ousted. It's what the Tories do; eat their own.
In 74 he received 46% of the vote with an 81% turnout. That's not apathy. Imagine any party getting 46% and an 80% turnout in 2023. It would never happen. @@67Parsifal
The 3 day week was the result of the Arab Israeli war coupled with greedy trade unions both being outside Heath's control
Does anyone know what the basic rate of income tax was in 1972? Was it higher than it is now in 2020?
35 %, I think
It was 33% in 1976 when I first started work.
The standard rate was 38.75%
@@danw1374 Was there a level where people didn't have to pay income tax, as we have now? Or was that rate set for everyone?
Missing how the Dimbleby family hegemony was already working up through the gears....
And deeply amusing the talk of men as earners and women as housewives.
It is no longer 1972... although we still have the Dimbleby dynasty. 😊
The only Tory leader worthy of a modicum of respect, not least taking us into the EEC which brought the UK huge economic benefits for 50 years until Brexit
Certainly brought ''huge economic benefits'' to France and Germany.
UK was stitched up and Heath accepted a terrible deal, he was over a barrel.
Heath accepted the disastrous CAP and CFP which put UK farmers and fishing industry
at a severe disadvantage. EEC was a protectionist cartel which never suited Britain.
Indeed with the groundless smears against him being an integral part of the Brexit campaign funded by offshore interests
Heath comes across excellently in this interview.
Yes I think a lot of people would have thought that, but he wasn't an excellent man in any way. He didn't even qualify to be called a man, he was a dangerous predator.
@@oli230 You referring to allegations against Heath made by the known fabricator Carl Beech, or the "satanic ritual abuse" claptrap?
@@CaradhrasAiguo49 I first heard about it from David Icke when he called him out as a pedophile in one of his books. Heath did nothing about it. Slander is one thing but libel is much easier to prove.... unless the evidence is stacked against you. British (probably all) politics is a filthy game full of sewer rats, corrupt and corruptible characters are especially selected to rise to the top, particularly ones with disgusting vices because they can easily be controlled. Just my opinion based on what I have learned. You are entitled to your own opinion.
@@oli230 You discredit yourself completely by referencing David Icke as your source - a known fantasist, conspiracy theorist and grifter. I didn't rate Heath as a PM and his 30 year sulk after losing the leadership to Thatcher will always count against his legacy, but your allegations and those of Beech are wholly groundless.
He received more votes than Labor in 74 as well. 46% with an 80% turnout. No one gets numbers like that anymore.
Beautiful speech
Rees Mogg is similar speaking today
Softer tone with Jacob
Heath has an intellect. Mogg is a dullard.
Rees Mogg is a thicko though
Heath didn't privatise the system or solve the issue his SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EDUCATION privatised energy, water, telecoms she was right the railways were privatised wrongly
Real wages and productivity must increase hand in hand with one another! ..that is elementary economics. Edward Heath is trying to explain this to Kimberly which the latter is unable to comprehend at all!
It seems everyone working for Thames tv at the time was a fool and a communist that couldn’t grasp such simple concepts or did grasp them and set out to mislead the public that it was possible to earn money without working.
When I see how the west is destroying itself with covid Lockdowms and indefinite massive stimulus for a locked down economy I think they may have succeeded
Interesting for me to see the face of someone now accused of the worst crimes imaginable. Quite civilised!
That is why paedophiles are so dangerous. They come across as reasonable and decent people. This is why many catholic priests were trusted.
@@johnking5174 or rabbis
smeared with
not accused of
@@stephenchappell7512 Exactly. i don't believe a word of those smears.
@@davidgoulden5956
Of course we should now see it for what
it was, a part of the general campaign of disinformation waged by offshore interests in support of Brexit (we haven't heard any follow up 'allegations' since have we?)
Disastrous government
Heath who sold this country out in 1970 EEC to the start of the Rot EU
And now we are out and all poor as dirt. I supported Brexit and I regret the sheer stupidity of leaving. Immigration wore than ever, poverty worse than ever and now dumbasses want imperial metrics back. Can't fix stupid.
I remember Ted Heath as a kid, thankfully I was not a vulnerable little boy in his vicinity. What a disgusting person he was.
I wonder if he dared to act out his "alleged" perverted ways in 10 Downing Street for the four years he was there?
John King I have read that some of his activities were on his yacht out at sea where allegedly some of the bodies were dumped. I expect he practiced his evil wherever he though he would not be caught out.
@@oli230 Then I assume he never dared to whilst in No. 10. You can understand why Thatcher hated him. But Thatcher herself seemed to be friends with paedophiles. She was a great friend of Jimmy Savile, and had Peter Morrison in her cabinet, who was known by the police and parliament for his attraction to teenage boys.
He was odd, single, and difficult, but not a criminal. Baseless allegations by a fraudster several years ago
@@cnevill2 people aren’t labelled criminals until they are caught and prosecuted and that never happens to people at his level. To get to the top you have to be corrupt or potentially corruptible because that’s how they are controlled, God forbid there could ever be a free thinking autonomous prime minister, look at BJ, I wonder what his predilection is? When there is a threat to them being exposed for their disgusting deeds they protect each other because many of them are perverts of one type or another. If you don’t believe this then start doing some research. Clue; It all comes back to their God.
Ted did things to very young boys, disgusting embarrassment to this country
Harold, you should be kaned for your wicked falsehoods. Challenge you to produce a shred of evidence.
Out of curiosity, do you have any proof he did those crimes? I've researched the allegations a bit and I can't find any bits of evidence to support the allegations.
Whatever happened to "presumed innocent untill proven guilty"?
Accusations of a ring of child abusers alledgedly consisting of Harvey Proctor, Lord Janner, Lord Brittan and Edward Heath were made by Carl Beech.
The accusations have been proven false.
Beech was himself a convicted child abuser and sentenced to 18 years imprisonment for perverting the course of justice in 1991.
About 20% of parliament was involved.
@@shivill2236
Coincided with the Brexit campaign and therefore should be regarded as disinformation
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This is an old video and has no relevance for current generation and politics.
Of course it hasn`t - it`s not intended to! The intention as with all of these Thames tv retrospective videos, is to take a look back at how things were - of interest then to those of us who were around at the time...
keshava Bhat Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat them.
its good for economic historians. Ask an LSE Economic History grad.
If you do not watch these videos you cannot understand where we have come from to be at the point we are at now. As others have said you end up repeating the same mistakes again.
I wasn't born till 78 so this is so important for me and younger to know about this