my GOD i really need you to know that your video essay was what basically brought back my childhood love of scooby doo and fred tenfold, hence why this video exists at all! so thank you! may your freds forever be kind and forever be dumb
Fred is actually a believable teenage guy; weird interests (traps, nets...), kind of dumb but does his best, cares a lot about his friends and supports them however he can, a lot of the times oblivious to a girl's advances
Honestly that description is just the cherry on top to selling me on Fred's character. Not that I ever disliked him, just didn't realize how fun he was, even in the background.
There's a line exchange between Fred and Daphne where she says "Fred, you're a middle aged dad in an eighteen year old's body." He agrees, and admits that "it's time I own that."
You got that kinda wrong, Fred isn't like a quirky dad trying to fit in it with the kids, he's just a quirky dad. Lol Fred is genuinely weird. (In a good, innocent, almost adorable kind of way)
I love how Fred is literally the most bland but also the most complex character of this group. Like, literally, the writers never know what to do with him in every reboot or remake that comes out, so we see him as a cowboy, a circus kid, a theater kid, a trap lover, a net lover, straight up himbo, a walking disaster, a cheerleader idk anything, literally, anything they choose to do with him it just works, and, regardless of anything they do, he never looses his cute smile, positive personality and weirdly inocent look. He IS the best character. It's like they keep his personality and everytime they want a filler they use him as the reason for it to be there, and IT WORKS! (we don't talk about Velma show, that was just a bad dream or a mandela effect)
@@psnfailout000 I say the most bland but also most complex because, if you don't know him well, you think he's a supper generic character, thinking his wholecharacter is just being the leader of the group and also really nice and positive. But in every show and adaptation he's always so much more than that, always presenting something different for the only sake of trying to make him something else than that and still making it seem totally natural, because it's Fred, he can be anything, and that's what makes him so good.
@@FortunAdlaich Mindy Kaling only ever plays one character, herself. I genuinely think she may be one of the most spiteful and vindictive people in the entertainment industry which says a lot.
"We've been stopping real estate developers when we could have been hunting Dracula?!?" Fred wanted to fight Dracula shirtless in the rain. Honestly I can understand his pain
It sucks how "adult animation" doesn't contain humor that's relatable to adults, it's just 100% edge for the sake of shock value but it becomes the norm so it's no longer shocking, plus middy kaling is an unfunny bigoted dumbass
I'm imagine it like Fred would take off nets from Daphne and run away with them, so he could use them for his trap or some other stuff, while leaving Daphne behind.
I love to think to myself that Fred was the only boy who couldn't fit in with the others and somehow met with the gang cause all of them were just amazed by him
Shaggy: Owner of the Mystery machine Daphne: Pays for the gas and parts Velma: Able to actually read the paperwork and books Fred: Has his driver's license
Very fucking badly. I haven't watched Scooby-doo in a LONG time and I just saw a few clips of Fred in that new shitty show... My jaw hit the floor on how badly they fucked up his character in that show along with many others. He's basically a full blown idiot that has been pampered by wealth without any charm put into it in "Velma." Not even a leadership position role they can gi- IT'S WOKE BULLSHIT OKAY!
I will never forgive Mindy for what he did to my sweet sweet boy. He is a himbo who loves traps, his van, and his friends. They absolutely MASSACRED HIM.
Fred is one of those characters who seems forgettable and uninteresting at first but if you look back at it he's somehow one of the funniest characters
Fred is one of those rare few people who were popular in highschool, not just cuz they were rich and good looking, but because they genuinly deserved it and were actually loved by everyone because they were such a joy to be around. every school has at least one.
nah Fred would never cut a steak himself, he’d set up an elaborate tripwire mechanism made of nets and ropes to cut everyone’s food the minute the plate touches the table. ofc, it would accidentally cut the plates too probably, but the food would still be cut. like cmon Velma that scenario wasn’t that hard to think up
I like how none of Fred’s friends are outright upset with him when he does weird things. Like they’re a little weirded out sometimes but they’re just like “oh that’s Fred being Fred.” Which makes sense because if they loathed him they wouldn’t spend time with him? It’s crazy it’s almost like they’re “friends” or something
I admit I haven't seen Velma yet, but I always hate it when shows make a group of friends all seem to hate each other. Why would anyone willingly hang out with a bunch of people they can't stand?
@@TheSameYellowToy there's a certain point in which you CAN get away with that, if you give the jerk characters atleast some redeemable qualities and fun times together on screen, Velma is written and directed by toxic manchildren, so they wouldn't know anything about that.
@@anyaforger6178 it's sad really, but the best thing you can do against this shitstorm of a show is to not watch it, don't even pirate it, i don't even get the concept of hate-watching shows, i mean does "if you don't like it don't watch it" not apply anymore?
FRED LITERALLY HAS SO MUCH DEPTH, He is a dramatic innocent himbo with a soft heart who's funny without even trying. Why tf the Velma show potray him as spoiled rich kid 😭 that show butcher literally everyone
Because mindy hates white people (especially the rich ones) she just wanna act like she's better than everyone by self-inserting herself into velma and have all the characters (including her staff members) simp for her, being all judgemental about someone who's above her, and making fred a spoiled rich manchild, I'm a black dude and I don't judge somebody based on their skin color.
While "Velma" better to be banished, I think Fred portrayal in that show would be better (and funnier) if he act like Ned Flanders from the Simpson. A genuine nice guy in cynical awful community.
@@hafirenggayuda I find it weird they didn't do that and make him the simp instead of shaggy, because the power fantasy of having a white guy get stepped on by her would be too good for her. Oh wait the new episodes do that while making him a nazi
What's crazy about cartoon Fred is that he's the only character left in the Scooby-Doo cast who even today, is still voiced by his OG voice actor Frank Welker ever since the show first came out in 1969.
And shaggy has been Casey Casem and then Mathew Lillard with no issues, scooby doo has one of the most wholesale voice actor relationships of any franchise, even kate micucci and grey de'lisle
@@moredumbtoit5325 Slight correction: I think Shaggy was played by someone else since the VHS movies, then another actor for the 2000's until the current one took over
@@goj1_lag00n yeh the whole series cringe they shit on these character . This is stupid and and woke writing one agree with it that is not include Scooby doo it good because they not try to butcher the Scooby doo
I love how in almost every iteration of Scooby Doo they almost always depict Fred as being a book smart jock with a dorky side to him. And then Velma fucked it up.
I feel like the "spoiled rich kid" trope could have actually worked, but they destroyed it. Our Fred isn't an asshole. He's a well-meaning guy who loves nets and his friends!
@@interstellarkitten6487 yeah, look at Lottie from Princess and the Frog. She’s a spoiled rich kid, but she genuinely cares about her friends and is a well meaning and sweet person!
The real issue with the Fred from 'Velma' is. Yes he's a narcissistic man child, but at least he shows signs of actually being nice. He defended Velma and he's genuinely nice to his lawyer (Velma's Dad) at first before his Father reprimands him. Like. He actually shows some sort of growth, even if it's being ridiculed and is somewhat bad as well, but at least he shows signs of 'changing' Mindy Kaling and the other people responsible for that show want you to care about Velma and Daphne. Personally i only really bother still looking at the show because Norville is actually kinda based (except when he isn't) and because Fred actually shows signs of development. And let's be serious for a moment when it comes to the underlying thing happening in the show: In these 4 Episodes i've seen they bring up 3 Problems currently important: - Velma's missing mom - Daphne's search for her birth parents - Serial Killer murdering Hot Girls and removing their brain. The actual Scooby Gang would've at least solved 2 of these cases in those 4 Episodes. Actually i'm 100% sure they would've solved all 3 of them in 4 Episodes and solved 15 other cases as well and it would STILL be better written 4 Episodes than whatever Mindy Kaling produces XD
i esp love how, in Mystery Inc, he goes from an oblivious himbo who’s hyperfixated on his obscure hobby, to a slightly less oblivious, self-secure himbo who’s still hyperfixated on his obscure hobby but knows how to use it to help those he loves
Fred being completely understanding and accepting of Scooby’s health taking priorities over his wants, while only freaking out about it in private is such a sweet thing to do.
@@realNoMee wow. Racism is alive and well. When did we go from “Jude people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin” to “judge people entirely by the color of their skin” Mr. King would be rolling in his grave. Just because someone is white doesn’t make them inherently evil and it’s pissing me off that the narrative keeps getting pushed. Theirs so much venom in these peoples hearts they don’t even want to say “White”
Ugh. Really? It was either he or Velma that put all the clues together in the original series, perhaps a bit too often, which was why I thought he was a better character when they started giving him some eccentricities... Though I thought they went a little far sometimes. That being said, he was never afraid to tell someone good work! If figured out something before he did.
Fred for the last 50+ years: A kind, strong, motivated leader with a lot of passion for his friends, solving mysteries, and the art of trapmaking. Sometimes a bit bumbling and silly, but never plain stupid. An honest, earnest guy who isn't afraid to wear his heart on his sleeve, and has no shame about his fashion, music taste and hobbies. Velma 2023's Fred: Throw all of that out the window and replace it with an exaggerated "spoiled white cishet boy" persona that is so painfully infantilized he can't cut his own food. Also racist for no real reason other than the fact he's the only white main cast member. In fact he's probably only kept white so that he can be the "wah entitled white boy with small privates" punching bag.
And the sad part is you can sorta see the original Fred's personality in there bit it's pushed down Example: when he was framed for murder, he was very polite to the lawyer, only being rude when his dad reminded him
@Undergirl04 His attempts at being a decent person are immediately made meaningless and it's genuinely frustrating to see. The show seems to do that just to remind us how mean spirited and edgy it really is 🙄
That show is the most Blasphemous cancerous most idiotic offensive thing to ever plague Scooby-Doo fans hell to plague the Scooby-Doo franchise in its entirety
This man was the definition of wholesome. He had hobbies that were different and tried to use them to help people while mainly being clueless about everything else around him. He was a jock and never shied away from danger even when he didn't know what he was doing but also really in tune with his feelings. Ok not in tune, expressive but Daphne would disagree with the use of "in tune".
Revisiting because that shitty new “Velma” show decided to take the mildest, kindest, most supportive, most harmless and sweet himbo in the history of TV animation (while movie animation is solely reserved for Kronk), and just make him a shallow and mean-spirited joke. You can try to pry my happy golden boy from my cold, dead hands. But you won’t.
“BuT He’S a WhItE gUy WhO tAkEs EvErYoNe’S CrEdIt” Jesus Christ Fred was the most lovable character next to scooby. Dude was so wholesome and they fucking ruined him
@@detectivemememachin5011 Its okay, they already massacred so many of my boys I have a graveyard. What's another? Besides, it'll probably not be considered cannon if it goes down like the lead balloon I think it will. Also if its bad enough they might not touch him until this lunacy is over. Then again, I may be just super jaded because the last one of mine anyone touched became the biggest internet meme with the worst movie.
a fuckboy/racist/asshole. Who's so ignorant that he can't even eat food without making a mess of himself. An yet he's still my favorite in comparison to the other characters LMAO.
@@1lillbluepikmin it has absolutely nothing to do with the real Scooby-Doo continuity, so you could actually just pretend that it doesn't exist. at least, that's what I've been doing anyway! 🤷
So much stuff is wrong in Velma. It’s not canon. Anything 2022 and past in the Scooby Doo realm is not accepted. Don’t worry. Velma is not canon, and never will be.
I feel like at a certain point the writers just didn't know what to do with him so instead of trying to add new layers to him they just went "Traps and the van, that's all he needs", and I couldn't be happier that they did.
YES oh my god. given that he didn’t have one Big Thing character-wise like the rest of the gang did for so long, it’s so cool to see the writers finally give that to him and just crank it up to eleven! he went from a pretty normal guy that you could probably meet on the street to the exact level of cartoon wackiness that you would expect a character from scooby doo to have, and i love that for him!!
Yeah, that is pretty much exactly it. Writers could be lazy and just reduce scooby and shaggy to fear+food. Fred didn't have a "gimmick" early on though. So there was a period when the writers just...removed fred entirely, rather than either change his character, or try to do something with the plank of wood. The later series managing to glom onto the trap thing and extrapolate it into this amazing himbo trap lover was amazing.
It's depressing seeing a cartoon made for children have more care and genuine talent than the "Adult" version. Ironically the "adult" version is infinitely more childish.
It's mostly because the show for kids was carefully constructed to teach positive values, whereas the adult version was carefully constructed to express the broken toxic mentality of it's creators.
As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to appreciate children’s cartoons more and adult cartoons/media less. When writers can’t be vulgar they are forced to be clever.
If there's one good thing the new Velma show did, then unironically it made me appreciate the older Scooby Doo media and characterizations way waaay more. I seriously don't get why the new writers hate Fred so much (Outside of I guess his skin color and "being rich"), he's like the definition of a loveable himbo.
@@keona5560 They don’t have the bare minimum knowledge of Scooby Doo 🤦♀️😭 How is it that they don’t realize how racíst it is to change Shaggy to black and then change him from being the wealthy one to Fred, the only one they kept white, but only as a “now rich, whíte, douchèbag” This ideology 🙈🤯
@@ifo7319 Changing a character's race in general is stupid and outright lazy. Velma is the golden example of trash political opinions mixed with trash writing leads us with characters and stories being more dry than the Atacama desert.
I never understood how some people think Fred's a boring jock douche. He's a very adorable dork that somehow is a nice and very good looking guy. (his design is a typical american dude since this series is from the 70's). Really hate with what they did to him in Velma. Honestly really insulting.
Doesn't make any sense. One of the writers said he took credit for everyone else's work in the older shows. 1. It was usually his work 2. He never hesitated to tell someone good job if they figured something out before he did.
@@allenharper2928 what?! He's basically the big brother in the group looking out for everyone. Placing traps has always his idea but whenever someone else have much better idea he never rejects or even punching down them. God.
Honestly, he was the least interesting one out of the group but not because there was something wrong with him. It was just that he didn't had a defined and memorable trait and he was just forgettable in general. But yeah, he's sweet, he's the (cheer)leader, and without him (without the original Fred that is) the show wouldn't make sense cause it's him who loves making traps and catching monsters
It’s easy to understand why; they judged him by his looks, apparent social class, and skin color and came away with their worst prejudices about those things.
Im impressed that frank welker has been willing to be the main voice of fred for so long. He was literally the voice for fried in scooby doo’s first installment, and still voices him to this day.
And here Iam discovering Fred had actually a consistent personality all these years, even in the cartoon in wish they were kids he was extremely enthusiastic and intense.
Not to mention they could have utilized the fact that he was confirmed on the spectrum for Autism But i forget they only care about minorities based in racial differences
The best thing about this is the fact its obviously shallow af and lazy writing trying to be original, quirky and or smart. It gives me hope in humanity that nobody's buying the bullshit.
THAT’S IT he’s normally such a serious character that when he does have a rare unhinged moment he unleashes twice the amount of pure chaos at any one time
This is the true Fred. A genuinely kind, understanding, supportive and goofy character and not just some rich psychopathic moron like the Velma show wants to portray him.
@@Edible_Kittens yes, the mystery gang are high-schoolers by default except when the plot say otherwise like in zombie island and pup named scooby doo.
Even the live-action movies got that Fred is a himbo and that he's at his best, when he's lifting up his friends. How on Earth did the Velma team mess up this bad?
By Team you mean an "insecure narcissist feminist indian" who thinks relatability automatically equates to good writing, because that team consists of one person, to whom "we" supposedly relate to. The fact she claimed she liked Velma (The original Velma), and assassinated her character along with Fred, Shaggy (Who turned into a desperate simp), etc. This show is the accurate representation of "Character assassination" and how self-insertion ruins a show.
@@razumahiroki9216 She's not even really a feminist, because that would require her to not also view other women as things to tear down to empower herself, or herself by proxy.
@@razumahiroki9216 Don't forget "RICH PRIVILEGED narcissistic Indian woman", I wouldn't call her a feminist seeing the way she depicts her female characters though. She manages to be sexist towards both men and women
This actually made me tear up. I never realized how much I adored Fred's character. Seeing the new abomination, idk gets me more sad I love how he talks about nets a lot 😂
Fred in all of the originals: -an honest and strong leader -cares for all of his friends -happy go lucky guy that tries his best not to be cynical or nihilistic Fred in Velma: -narcissistic rich asshole -actually canonically racist -unlikeable in almost every single way
@@HappyCynic So her real self insert isn't Velma but Fred?! 🤣 Velma is the person she wants to be while Fred is who she really is in her bad fanfic, I'm still not over what she has done to these characters
You. You get it.
my GOD i really need you to know that your video essay was what basically brought back my childhood love of scooby doo and fred tenfold, hence why this video exists at all! so thank you! may your freds forever be kind and forever be dumb
The original himbo
Hey he’s not dumb! He’s naive :) and it’s beautiful.
OH MY GOSH JELLO?! I FUCKING LOVE YOU WITH ALL MY HEART MARRY ME (ignore that last part)
Ayyy is nice to see you here Jello, wasn't expecting you here.
"look gang, a door"
"I wonder where it leads"
*struggles lightly*
"we'll never know"
"Daphne...I'm not a boy anymore...I have feelings 8D" 😂💀
That made me lol literally
@@ssteakmate983 oh freddy 🤣
Literally a human golden retriever
hahaha like nick Nelson 🤣🤣
You've been hit by a smooooth criminal
That an Inside Job joke?
@@spectralight8412 no
Mr. Peanutbutter????
Fred is actually a believable teenage guy; weird interests (traps, nets...), kind of dumb but does his best, cares a lot about his friends and supports them however he can, a lot of the times oblivious to a girl's advances
He's the most realistic teenager I've seen on tv
@@alchemistofsteel8099 what about shaggy?
I can definitely relate lol
@@l0sts0ul89there's likely people like him though likely not entirely exact but close enough.
I have always perceived the gang to be in their late 20s, early 30s, never teens
"Look Gang, A Door!"
"I Wonder where it leads"
"We'll never know-"
I love him so much
2:30 “Stop! STOP!😨” *gasps from the gang* “my shoes untied 🥲”
I love how he said it as both of them are dead in the center of the screen, like . . . yes Fred . . . . . that's a door . . .
LSM2
3:26 *PWAAAANGGGGG* "Surprise!"
"he's a lame grandpa stuck in a seventeen year old's body" is the best way to describe Fred's character
Voiced by a (currently 76 year old) grandpa.
Lame, but lovable and reliable
Honestly that description is just the cherry on top to selling me on Fred's character.
Not that I ever disliked him, just didn't realize how fun he was, even in the background.
or a human Golden Retriever
He's just like me fr
I never realized until today that Fred fits the "quirky dad tries hard to fit in with the kids" trope too well.
That’s a weird way of saying he’s a himbo
There's a line exchange between Fred and Daphne where she says "Fred, you're a middle aged dad in an eighteen year old's body."
He agrees, and admits that "it's time I own that."
You got that kinda wrong, Fred isn't like a quirky dad trying to fit in it with the kids, he's just a quirky dad. Lol Fred is genuinely weird. (In a good, innocent, almost adorable kind of way)
@@BoneMittens actually he is autistic in mystery inc lol
@@avaliausd. yeah, there's nothing tryhard about him.
Fred is the kind of man we need to see more of in fiction. He's a beautiful example of real manliness and shame on anyone that wants to tear him down.
He's also just so damn wholesome. I remember watching inside job and was so damn happy that Brett acts just like him.
He's the Jonathan Joestar of cartoons. And he's like 18 years ahead of JoJo
@@Eli-el4ls ah yes, buff gentlemen
Shame on Mindy Kaling.
@commentator69
It's about the Mets.
I love how Fred is literally the most bland but also the most complex character of this group. Like, literally, the writers never know what to do with him in every reboot or remake that comes out, so we see him as a cowboy, a circus kid, a theater kid, a trap lover, a net lover, straight up himbo, a walking disaster, a cheerleader idk anything, literally, anything they choose to do with him it just works, and, regardless of anything they do, he never looses his cute smile, positive personality and weirdly inocent look. He IS the best character. It's like they keep his personality and everytime they want a filler they use him as the reason for it to be there, and IT WORKS!
(we don't talk about Velma show, that was just a bad dream or a mandela effect)
Whats velma?
@@fbiagent.. You don't wanna know
@@fbiagent.. is better to be a ignorant
Doesn't that make him the opposite of bland then?
@@psnfailout000 I say the most bland but also most complex because, if you don't know him well, you think he's a supper generic character, thinking his wholecharacter is just being the leader of the group and also really nice and positive. But in every show and adaptation he's always so much more than that, always presenting something different for the only sake of trying to make him something else than that and still making it seem totally natural, because it's Fred, he can be anything, and that's what makes him so good.
"Fred constantly took the credit of his friends’ work when solving mysteries"
Do your homework, Mindy Kaling.
Just like her character, Kaling loves to insult and destroy others to boost her own ego.
@@FortunAdlaich Mindy Kaling only ever plays one character, herself. I genuinely think she may be one of the most spiteful and vindictive people in the entertainment industry which says a lot.
More like Mindy killing with how she's massacring these characters.
Fred always congratulates the team after their work is finished
But Fred realized it himself, so he decided to switch from leader to cheer leader 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This isn't the Fred we deserve. But it's the Fred we need right now.
this is absolutely the fred we deserve and need right now. shining joy and loyalty... our poor boy
BAaAaaTmAn REfErEncEEeeEeeEee
Absolutely
@@whitemoonwolf13 but Mindy kenily aka VELMA just ruin it for us!
@@ezeahrizcalupas6280hush it’s not apart of the canon anymore
"We've been stopping real estate developers when we could have been hunting Dracula?!?"
Fred wanted to fight Dracula shirtless in the rain.
Honestly I can understand his pain
Fred confirmed for Belmont descendant
I mean, a net could just be a bunch of whips tied together
@@nicolasbolas2247 "Look at this net, that I just found!" -Fred, probably.
The sudden manly urge to fight with vampires in the rain.
The most hilarious thing is that he saying that line in crossover with Supernatural
"those are Franks"
"I thought they were mine!" 😂😂
That one killed me too XD
I've been laughing for minutes non-stop at this one every time.
It is even funnier when you realize his voice actor is named Frank
Fred, my man, you didn't deserve what happened to you.
Peace
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
Fr
Hey our nicknames are oddly similar....
My man Fred went from Fred to FREud
What happened to him?
Why a modern, adult Scooby-Doo wouldn't take advantage of dad humor himbo Fred will always be a mystery to me.
Because Mindy would rather use him to be racist towards white people.
That should be the real mystery they solve
maybe because Mindy and her team are bad at writing shows, let alone a Scooby-Doo show lol
It sucks how "adult animation" doesn't contain humor that's relatable to adults, it's just 100% edge for the sake of shock value but it becomes the norm so it's no longer shocking, plus middy kaling is an unfunny bigoted dumbass
Because Mindy and her team are a bunch of misandrists and racists. They only saw Fred as a white man who is bad because he is a man and white.
4:18 I was NOT expecting the “I have FEELINGS!” And I burst out laughing at 2am this is 10/10
Man he's hank hill vibes going
I laughed out loud at 3 in the morning myself
The transparent non-binary flag made me laugh so much
@@fandroid6491 what does the flag mean?
@@mauler7303 that means he's not a binary code
I NEVER REALIZED HOW SILLY HE WAS hes so cute😭😭
yeah fred's awesome.
Ikr? I don't understand how anyone could think he is an asshole white rich boy :(
He's just a sweet Himbo XD
Fred was pure and untainted
Until Velma came along
Not "Until Velma came along."
No, until *"Velma"* came along.
hey everywhere man
Not canon fred
@@monkfish2047 I really hope that's it's own thing
Everything woke turns to sshhiitt
Daphne: *wears some fishnets*
Fred: *Heavy Breathing Intensifies*
this is an underated comment
I'm imagine it like Fred would take off nets from Daphne and run away with them, so he could use them for his trap or some other stuff, while leaving Daphne behind.
I was just saying this outloud when I scrolled down. 😅
LMAO
@@iimhealed there is none
Amusing how the new "Velma" has united all the ACTUAL fans to vastly appreciate the older better versions more.
for real! i've been binge watching a lot of the older stuff and really enjoying it, especially Mystery Incorporated!!
I've always enjoyed Scooby-Doo. Damn. It's probably one of the longest running cartoons around.
I love to think to myself that Fred was the only boy who couldn't fit in with the others and somehow met with the gang cause all of them were just amazed by him
Lol either him or velma started the whole gang. He even managed to get a super attractive girl in Daphne to be head over heels for him by accident 😂😂.
I mean how could you not be head over heels for him he's SO sweet!!
@@aliikram8252 I think Shaggy came up with the idea, Velma organized it and Fred helped realize the idea.
Shaggy: Owner of the Mystery machine
Daphne: Pays for the gas and parts
Velma: Able to actually read the paperwork and books
Fred: Has his driver's license
@@9starcirno Scooby-Doo: Emotional Support
Velma ruined Fred, so we watch this instead
Very fucking badly. I haven't watched Scooby-doo in a LONG time and I just saw a few clips of Fred in that new shitty show... My jaw hit the floor on how badly they fucked up his character in that show along with many others. He's basically a full blown idiot that has been pampered by wealth without any charm put into it in "Velma." Not even a leadership position role they can gi- IT'S WOKE BULLSHIT OKAY!
Velma ruined everything.
Don't lose your head, just love the Fred
What's Velma ?
@@danialyousaf6456 Scooby doo show without Scooby doo HBO max just released it this week you're gonna be disappointed
What a polite himbo
Sure would suck if some higher budget fanfic completely character assassinated him
He was white man wasn't he? And that too a straight one
I was saying becoz he was like this sooner or later company would ruin his character
@@womenhavehivemind9043 no idea what you’re trying to say but sure
@@snekdrek they were just making a joke dw lol
@@stxrbxrry9237 no I literally have no idea what they’re trying to tell me
@@snekdrek cis white male bad - weird people
Can you believe that Fred has had the same voice actor for 50 years? Frank Welker must have really understood the assignment.
I will never forgive Mindy for what he did to my sweet sweet boy. He is a himbo who loves traps, his van, and his friends. They absolutely MASSACRED HIM.
Mindy saw "Masculine white man?!" and needed to nerf every good aspect of him
And nets, of course.
Wait a minute though, wasnt the van Shaggy's?
@@TheActualRealDrPepper the history of nets >>>> anything else
@@Murmarine it's Shaggy's canonically but only Fred drives
Fred is one of those characters who seems forgettable and uninteresting at first but if you look back at it he's somehow one of the funniest characters
Pure Chad Himbo energy
honestly, i didn't remembered him being this funny XD guess is 'cause shaggy and scooby had more "comedic" screen time
Fr though, he and Daphne were the least interesting ones but ig Daphne gets 4th place in the ranking
Funniest without being overly mean or crass
They all had their funny moments tbh in Scooby Doo you just can't not like them all
Fred is one of those rare few people who were popular in highschool, not just cuz they were rich and good looking, but because they genuinly deserved it and were actually loved by everyone because they were such a joy to be around. every school has at least one.
“Those are francs”
“I thought they were mine”
Pure comedy gold
he looks like the kinda guy that knows how to cut steak with a knife.
He also look like the kind of guy who wouldn't cut a random person's leg off.
yessir
I was confused until I remembered what the reference was. God I hate the Velma show.
It took me 5 seconds to get the joke. I hate the Velma show so much.
nah Fred would never cut a steak himself, he’d set up an elaborate tripwire mechanism made of nets and ropes to cut everyone’s food the minute the plate touches the table. ofc, it would accidentally cut the plates too probably, but the food would still be cut.
like cmon Velma that scenario wasn’t that hard to think up
I like how none of Fred’s friends are outright upset with him when he does weird things. Like they’re a little weirded out sometimes but they’re just like “oh that’s Fred being Fred.”
Which makes sense because if they loathed him they wouldn’t spend time with him?
It’s crazy it’s almost like they’re “friends” or something
I admit I haven't seen Velma yet, but I always hate it when shows make a group of friends all seem to hate each other. Why would anyone willingly hang out with a bunch of people they can't stand?
@@TheSameYellowToy there's a certain point in which you CAN get away with that, if you give the jerk characters atleast some redeemable qualities and fun times together on screen, Velma is written and directed by toxic manchildren, so they wouldn't know anything about that.
@@LucasMiddleNameandLastname22 yeah it feels like "this is a show for adults but i dont expect my audience to have any maturity over middle schoolers"
@@anyaforger6178 it's sad really, but the best thing you can do against this shitstorm of a show is to not watch it, don't even pirate it, i don't even get the concept of hate-watching shows, i mean does "if you don't like it don't watch it" not apply anymore?
@@LucasMiddleNameandLastname22 Hate-watching doesn't exist.
FRED LITERALLY HAS SO MUCH DEPTH, He is a dramatic innocent himbo with a soft heart who's funny without even trying. Why tf the Velma show potray him as spoiled rich kid 😭 that show butcher literally everyone
Because mindy hates white people (especially the rich ones) she just wanna act like she's better than everyone by self-inserting herself into velma and have all the characters (including her staff members) simp for her, being all judgemental about someone who's above her, and making fred a spoiled rich manchild, I'm a black dude and I don't judge somebody based on their skin color.
Damn. even in one of Mystery Inc episode, he even lives on the side of a river and he never even complained, in fact; he loved it.
Fred being a Elvis fan and making dad jokes about him are the highlight of my year 💀
Even the CZcams algorithm knows the Velma tv show is shit and did Fred dirty.
Everyone in that show is just so hate filled. Fred especially which is completely out of character for the man. He’s pure positivity
While "Velma" better to be banished, I think Fred portrayal in that show would be better (and funnier) if he act like Ned Flanders from the Simpson. A genuine nice guy in cynical awful community.
@@hafirenggayuda that would require Mindy Kaling to not be racist. Or a bad person.
@@danielgiovanniello7217 Task: Impossible
@@hafirenggayuda I find it weird they didn't do that and make him the simp instead of shaggy, because the power fantasy of having a white guy get stepped on by her would be too good for her. Oh wait the new episodes do that while making him a nazi
"Why can't I be cold and heartless like the other guys- WHY MUST I FEEL"
Fred is an icon
🎶Freddie, you’re a special boy🎶
Relatable
I love your profile name.
@@grandpa_the_kid I love you for this😆 made me giggle all over again
Fred is the GOAT
What's crazy about cartoon Fred is that he's the only character left in the Scooby-Doo cast who even today, is still voiced by his OG voice actor Frank Welker ever since the show first came out in 1969.
And scooby
And shaggy has been Casey Casem and then Mathew Lillard with no issues, scooby doo has one of the most wholesale voice actor relationships of any franchise, even kate micucci and grey de'lisle
@@moredumbtoit5325 shaggy orignal actor did die
@@jd2792 But that was a while after Matthew Lillard took over
@@moredumbtoit5325 Slight correction: I think Shaggy was played by someone else since the VHS movies, then another actor for the 2000's until the current one took over
3:03 That heartfelt blubbering was so hilarious and heartwarming at the same time. XD
The zoom-ins really add to the effect. Kudos to the video editor.
Man, what a nice character.
I hope nobody butcher his character.
Sadly Velma butcher the character
@@runajain5773 like everyone else's character.
@@goj1_lag00n yeh the whole series cringe they shit on these character . This is stupid and and woke writing one agree with it that is not include Scooby doo it good because they not try to butcher the Scooby doo
I'm glad to know Scooby Doo fans will not give away their adorable himbo man without fighting. #savefredjones
I went to this video to remind me…
Just to remember.
my favourite one:
velma: "those are franks"
fred: "i thought they were mine!"
He's just so cute
well he’s voiced by frank welker, so they’re technically his
I legitimately laughed out loud at that line.
Can we petition to rename francs to freds?
My favorite was the trapeze story
“You think I’m some kind of leader, Daph? Well you’re only half right I’m a cheerleader.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself
What’s that from?
@@fromthecheapseats7126 scooby doo
@@SavingGraceByLove I mean what Scooby-Doo series or movie?
@@fromthecheapseats7126 It seems to be from 2019’s Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost.
I love how in almost every iteration of Scooby Doo they almost always depict Fred as being a book smart jock with a dorky side to him. And then Velma fucked it up.
True
The real Fred always looks out for his gang even as they split up! Not that narcissistic man child from Velma!
Just like the narcissistic woman child who created the “show.”
I feel like the "spoiled rich kid" trope could have actually worked, but they destroyed it. Our Fred isn't an asshole. He's a well-meaning guy who loves nets and his friends!
@@interstellarkitten6487 yeah, look at Lottie from Princess and the Frog. She’s a spoiled rich kid, but she genuinely cares about her friends and is a well meaning and sweet person!
The real issue with the Fred from 'Velma' is.
Yes he's a narcissistic man child, but at least he shows signs of actually being nice.
He defended Velma and he's genuinely nice to his lawyer (Velma's Dad) at first before his Father reprimands him.
Like. He actually shows some sort of growth, even if it's being ridiculed and is somewhat bad as well, but at least he shows signs of 'changing'
Mindy Kaling and the other people responsible for that show want you to care about Velma and Daphne.
Personally i only really bother still looking at the show because Norville is actually kinda based (except when he isn't) and because Fred actually shows signs of development.
And let's be serious for a moment when it comes to the underlying thing happening in the show:
In these 4 Episodes i've seen they bring up 3 Problems currently important:
- Velma's missing mom
- Daphne's search for her birth parents
- Serial Killer murdering Hot Girls and removing their brain.
The actual Scooby Gang would've at least solved 2 of these cases in those 4 Episodes. Actually i'm 100% sure they would've solved all 3 of them in 4 Episodes and solved 15 other cases as well and it would STILL be better written 4 Episodes than whatever Mindy Kaling produces XD
Pov: Velma ruined your precious Himbo character and you need this video to heal.
Yup
@@Lyra_Laney12 i am no psychic. I do have good intuition
@@Lyra_Laney12 𝚂𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝙱𝚛𝚘
YES OMG 😭
This is accurate
i esp love how, in Mystery Inc, he goes from an oblivious himbo who’s hyperfixated on his obscure hobby, to a slightly less oblivious, self-secure himbo who’s still hyperfixated on his obscure hobby but knows how to use it to help those he loves
you put it perfectly! his development in that show is fantastic
The fact that a lot of the newer viewers here are tending to the Fred wounds they sustained from a certain show is quite telling
Fred being completely understanding and accepting of Scooby’s health taking priorities over his wants, while only freaking out about it in private is such a sweet thing to do.
And also turning into Scooby while crying
He has a heart
I have an idea, let's butcher his character entirely because of his race and gender.
@@HazyBlackest haha, Velma bad show
@@yokaiwatcher8500 It is
"Much like the original Fred, our Fred is a wh`ite guy who loves to take credit for everyone else’s work."
- A writer who has never seen Scooby Doo
Why’d you censor “white”? It’s not a slur
@@Broomer52 I didn't. This is quoted directly from the official character Bio for the show Velma.
@@realNoMee wow. Racism is alive and well. When did we go from “Jude people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin” to “judge people entirely by the color of their skin” Mr. King would be rolling in his grave. Just because someone is white doesn’t make them inherently evil and it’s pissing me off that the narrative keeps getting pushed. Theirs so much venom in these peoples hearts they don’t even want to say “White”
@@Broomer52 Yeah it's pretty clear from the show that Mindy Kaling has nothing but vindictive hate and wants everyone to be as miserable as she is.
Ugh. Really? It was either he or Velma that put all the clues together in the original series, perhaps a bit too often, which was why I thought he was a better character when they started giving him some eccentricities... Though I thought they went a little far sometimes. That being said, he was never afraid to tell someone good work! If figured out something before he did.
2:54 is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen. Never seen a man get so emotionally distraught over nets.
Fred for the last 50+ years: A kind, strong, motivated leader with a lot of passion for his friends, solving mysteries, and the art of trapmaking. Sometimes a bit bumbling and silly, but never plain stupid. An honest, earnest guy who isn't afraid to wear his heart on his sleeve, and has no shame about his fashion, music taste and hobbies.
Velma 2023's Fred: Throw all of that out the window and replace it with an exaggerated "spoiled white cishet boy" persona that is so painfully infantilized he can't cut his own food. Also racist for no real reason other than the fact he's the only white main cast member. In fact he's probably only kept white so that he can be the "wah entitled white boy with small privates" punching bag.
She sounds like a real ray of sunshine. 😑
Velma Fred does try to improve but let's be real here, he was treated the same way anyway so his attempt at character development was meaningless
@@reygoh9944 Yeah, he's constantly just being treated as a punching bag regardless of how he changes
And the sad part is you can sorta see the original Fred's personality in there bit it's pushed down
Example: when he was framed for murder, he was very polite to the lawyer, only being rude when his dad reminded him
@Undergirl04 His attempts at being a decent person are immediately made meaningless and it's genuinely frustrating to see. The show seems to do that just to remind us how mean spirited and edgy it really is 🙄
Fred is such a himbo and I love it.
I'm here to recover from the atrocity that was Velma.
Like everyone of us
Same
That show is the most Blasphemous cancerous most idiotic offensive thing to ever plague Scooby-Doo fans hell to plague the Scooby-Doo franchise in its entirety
Same.
Will your not the only one
4:41
The way Fred cheered up his friends with his red pompoms was so wholesome! 😍💖
"I learned a valuable lesson about the trapeze"
Of fucking course it was the TRAPeze
“I’m not a guy anymore! I have feelings!” That was the most perfect line delivery I’ve ever heard.
That's all the legitimately funny commentary about toxic masculinity a man needs in just two simple sentences and the perfect man to deliver.
someone once tried to tell me Fred was the most useless member of the squad. I reminded them that Fred was the trap guy. respect the trap guy.
and hes the cheerleader
I think daphne is the most useless
@@hylianmono Daphne is the mom of the group
@@ninjaked1265 yeah but she has no purpose in catching the monsters
@@hylianmono She's literally the bait 90% of the time, she has a very important purpose.
This man was the definition of wholesome. He had hobbies that were different and tried to use them to help people while mainly being clueless about everything else around him. He was a jock and never shied away from danger even when he didn't know what he was doing but also really in tune with his feelings. Ok not in tune, expressive but Daphne would disagree with the use of "in tune".
3:21 that line is unironically raw af
Revisiting because that shitty new “Velma” show decided to take the mildest, kindest, most supportive, most harmless and sweet himbo in the history of TV animation (while movie animation is solely reserved for Kronk), and just make him a shallow and mean-spirited joke.
You can try to pry my happy golden boy from my cold, dead hands. But you won’t.
It's so obvious the writers hate Fred
Facts
on no it makes me sad
They hate the whole gang
@@cheshirerose2001 I'm very close to thinking the writers just hate white people, or at the very least love to hate them
“BuT He’S a WhItE gUy WhO tAkEs EvErYoNe’S CrEdIt” Jesus Christ Fred was the most lovable character next to scooby. Dude was so wholesome and they fucking ruined him
I too fear the malicious way Fred will be treated in the new Mindy Kaling show
@@AlecEburhard they made him a douchebag gay possibly racist white guy or somethin apparently
We all finna be like "Look how they massacred my boy"
@@detectivemememachin5011 Its okay, they already massacred so many of my boys I have a graveyard. What's another? Besides, it'll probably not be considered cannon if it goes down like the lead balloon I think it will. Also if its bad enough they might not touch him until this lunacy is over.
Then again, I may be just super jaded because the last one of mine anyone touched became the biggest internet meme with the worst movie.
@@alpyki2588 That's rough buddy. Also, who's the character you're referring to in that last sentence?
The "I learned a valuable lesson!"
"...what was it?"
"Don't drop people!" Made me laugh out loud. I also related really heavily to the stiff thumbs up
"I'm not a guy anymore. I HAVE FEELINGS!" -Fred, Mystery Incorporated
"I'm not thinking of anything! My mind is a complete void" I've missed this character so much 😭
The way he says that is top their himbo
@@LadyJuse bro right? The confidence-just mwah
(Milk carton falls)
@@denyhaguilar679 (riding a mechanical seahorse)
and this was actually funny
Fred went from the cute, golden retriever energy jock to…..whatever mess they turned him into in Velma 💀💀💀
a fuckboy/racist/asshole. Who's so ignorant that he can't even eat food without making a mess of himself. An yet he's still my favorite in comparison to the other characters LMAO.
@@1lillbluepikmin it has absolutely nothing to do with the real Scooby-Doo continuity, so you could actually just pretend that it doesn't exist. at least, that's what I've been doing anyway! 🤷
No such thing as Velma show only good Scooby Doo vibes
And he still managed to be one of the only tolerable characters in the show, and that's saying a lot
So much stuff is wrong in Velma. It’s not canon. Anything 2022 and past in the Scooby Doo realm is not accepted.
Don’t worry. Velma is not canon, and never will be.
I love how wholesome Fred is in this. He is such a goober, but that's what makes him so likeable.
I feel like at a certain point the writers just didn't know what to do with him so instead of trying to add new layers to him they just went "Traps and the van, that's all he needs", and I couldn't be happier that they did.
YES oh my god. given that he didn’t have one Big Thing character-wise like the rest of the gang did for so long, it’s so cool to see the writers finally give that to him and just crank it up to eleven! he went from a pretty normal guy that you could probably meet on the street to the exact level of cartoon wackiness that you would expect a character from scooby doo to have, and i love that for him!!
Yeah, that is pretty much exactly it. Writers could be lazy and just reduce scooby and shaggy to fear+food. Fred didn't have a "gimmick" early on though. So there was a period when the writers just...removed fred entirely, rather than either change his character, or try to do something with the plank of wood. The later series managing to glom onto the trap thing and extrapolate it into this amazing himbo trap lover was amazing.
Don't forget about the ascot
Funniest part is that the van is not even his
It's shaggy's
He just let them borrow it so they can solve mysteries
DONT FORGET THE V ASCOTS LOL
It's depressing seeing a cartoon made for children have more care and genuine talent than the "Adult" version. Ironically the "adult" version is infinitely more childish.
It's mostly because the show for kids was carefully constructed to teach positive values, whereas the adult version was carefully constructed to express the broken toxic mentality of it's creators.
Velma is for adults but what’s new, mystery inc and the direct to dvd movies are for all ages
As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to appreciate children’s cartoons more and adult cartoons/media less. When writers can’t be vulgar they are forced to be clever.
@@Dennis-nc3vw absolutely. If you can't write quality material for any audience, you can't write
@@seigeengine the adult version is nothing more than a self insert fanfic that’s entirely dependent on meta humor and over the top wokeism.
1:53 Fred's face when he says don't drop people is just amazing
Seeing him in Velma make me appriciate how precious OG Fred is.
Every version of Fred is a little different, but they're all lovable goofballs
Thank god you've never seen Velma
@@adestructive39 never seen what? I got most of what you said, but the last word is kind of a blur, strange.
@@smolboi7092 Honestly i don't even know it never happened
@@adestructive39 the good ending
@@smolboi7092 i can try to say it, Vel-(throws up midway through)
If there's one good thing the new Velma show did, then unironically it made me appreciate the older Scooby Doo media and characterizations way waaay more. I seriously don't get why the new writers hate Fred so much (Outside of I guess his skin color and "being rich"), he's like the definition of a loveable himbo.
I've already forgot the slang himbo a long time ago, and thank God I get to remember it again because of Fred and his og character personality
@@baconfoxxe5577 It's not a term I hear a lot but when I hear it the happy neurons in my head fire off
Fred wasn't even rich like that in the older shows, SHAGGY was the one who had money😭
@@keona5560 They don’t have the bare minimum knowledge of Scooby Doo 🤦♀️😭
How is it that they don’t realize how racíst it is to change Shaggy to black and then change him from being the wealthy one to Fred, the only one they kept white, but only as a “now rich, whíte, douchèbag” This ideology 🙈🤯
@@ifo7319 Changing a character's race in general is stupid and outright lazy. Velma is the golden example of trash political opinions mixed with trash writing leads us with characters and stories being more dry than the Atacama desert.
Fred is the only guy that can say "bamboozled" and " . . . the wazoo" and make it not cringe
Fred is just peak himbo energy and I am here for it
4:21 The fact that Fred existential crises isn’t that monsters are real, but that monsters are real and that he WASN’T hunting them.
Pure Chad himbo energy man just wants to trap a monster or stake dracula it's a man's romance afterall
Which movie or series is this from?
@@fromthecheapseats7126 supernatural season 13 I think. If not just look up the Scooby Doo crossover and you'll immediately find it
@@fromthecheapseats7126 supernatural
I never understood how some people think Fred's a boring jock douche. He's a very adorable dork that somehow is a nice and very good looking guy. (his design is a typical american dude since this series is from the 70's).
Really hate with what they did to him in Velma. Honestly really insulting.
Doesn't make any sense. One of the writers said he took credit for everyone else's work in the older shows.
1. It was usually his work
2. He never hesitated to tell someone good job if they figured something out before he did.
@@allenharper2928 what?!
He's basically the big brother in the group looking out for everyone. Placing traps has always his idea but whenever someone else have much better idea he never rejects or even punching down them. God.
Honestly, he was the least interesting one out of the group but not because there was something wrong with him. It was just that he didn't had a defined and memorable trait and he was just forgettable in general.
But yeah, he's sweet, he's the (cheer)leader, and without him (without the original Fred that is) the show wouldn't make sense cause it's him who loves making traps and catching monsters
It’s easy to understand why; they judged him by his looks, apparent social class, and skin color and came away with their worst prejudices about those things.
YES! He's always been so nice, easy going and resourceful
The fact that Kiss were the singers for the don’t pull my ascot song is hilarious to me
Im impressed that frank welker has been willing to be the main voice of fred for so long. He was literally the voice for fried in scooby doo’s first installment, and still voices him to this day.
I have to thank the Velma "show" for one thing.
It made me really appreciate the real characters even more.
Same, it made me realize how close I have this show to my heart
And it made me watch a better scooby doo
Absolutely…. I miss this Fred.
@@isaaccabal7054 "Look at how they massacred my boy"
1:49 I don’t know why, but there is just so much hiding behind those eyes when he says that 😂
And here Iam discovering Fred had actually a consistent personality all these years, even in the cartoon in wish they were kids he was extremely enthusiastic and intense.
"My mind is a complete void." Truer words were never spoken
there is not one single thought in that perfect tiny brain of his
Relatable
No thoughts, head empty
I love his pure simplicity
Incorrect-his head is full of traps
Look at this boy...
This pure, precious boy...
How could they ruin him so... 😭
LOOK AT HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY! 😭
@@Observer_DecayTHEY DECEASED HIM 😢
“These telescopes take these little quarter thingies”
“Those are Francs”
“I thought they were mine!!”
Deceased, I am dead🤣🤣🤣
Fred is the original himbo, and I respect him immensely for it
Gotta love how they took such a heart warming and genuine character and said let's just do lazy rich tiny dick jokes.
Not to mention they could have utilized the fact that he was confirmed on the spectrum for Autism
But i forget they only care about minorities based in racial differences
And actual racist jokes directed at him
@Herbivore The Carnivore it's honestly shocking how racist they are towards white people. And I'm saying this as a mexican.
The best thing about this is the fact its obviously shallow af and lazy writing trying to be original, quirky and or smart.
It gives me hope in humanity that nobody's buying the bullshit.
"Bodyshaming is good actually" - Mindy Khaling: Supermodel
Fred is made of sunshine, his heart is as pure as fresh-fallen snow, and he puts a quarter in the Swear Jar when he so much as thinks the word “darn.”
And heaven forbid he says the word "heck".
Let him never enter an ARG
@@redrasegarden whats an ARG?
@@jacintaschneider4145 ever seen monument mythos or local 58?
@{The Autumn Wind} thats cannon
Fred having a breakdown because of nets is such a Fred thing to do
He is consistantly the most obliviously self aware cartoon character I've ever seen.
Fred is a leader who takes his role seriously, but is also your goofy best friend who like his hobbies a little to much
THIS. THIS is the perfect description of Fred here, THANK YOU
@@baconfoxxe5577 This a really good description.
This man is simultaneously the most vanilla and the most unpredictable character on the show.
"Never let 'em know your next move. This includes you yourself."
whats vanilla about him?
@@GrimgoreIronhide his child like innocence, but at the same time unaware of his ignorance but in a harmless way, he always means the best.
It's official. Fred is my new favourite. I've been converted.
Wholly molly, He was born to be a natural cheerleader. My boy gots the moves, the rhymes, the spirit, and the entire cabootle. He had me sneered.
The older Fred ones are like hilarious because they’re so serious.
THAT’S IT he’s normally such a serious character that when he does have a rare unhinged moment he unleashes twice the amount of pure chaos at any one time
@@nemmeton ✨🥲 *beautiful*
Og Fred was an unintentional himbo and I love him
Oh wow that’s a lot of likes lol I thought my comments were lame haha
Feed encounters a locked door and just acts like it's a brick wall
Fred is the kind of guy who makes his own nets.
oh definitely. he takes pride in his craft
@@nemmeton speaking of pride😳
I am almost Certain there’s a joke about that in mystery incorporated.
Impressive
@@redrasegarden now lets see shaggy nets
Door: *Is Locked*
Fred: Understandable, have a nice day. 😂
This is the true Fred. A genuinely kind, understanding, supportive and goofy character and not just some rich psychopathic moron like the Velma show wants to portray him.
Frank Welker has done a 17 year olds voice for 50+ years
An absolute legend. He needs to live forever
He’s 17????
… How am I now older than a Scooby Doo character
@@Edible_Kittens Fred and Shaggy are 17, Daphne is 16, Velma is 15, and Scooby is 7.
@@Edible_Kittens yes, the mystery gang are high-schoolers by default except when the plot say otherwise like in zombie island and pup named scooby doo.
“no one wants to hear your net facts fred!”
I do. i want to hear about your net facts
The creator of Velma really pissed on the memory of such a wonderful character, and then tried to set it on fire.
Even the live-action movies got that Fred is a himbo and that he's at his best, when he's lifting up his friends. How on Earth did the Velma team mess up this bad?
By Team you mean an "insecure narcissist feminist indian" who thinks relatability automatically equates to good writing, because that team consists of one person, to whom "we" supposedly relate to.
The fact she claimed she liked Velma (The original Velma), and assassinated her character along with Fred, Shaggy (Who turned into a desperate simp), etc. This show is the accurate representation of "Character assassination" and how self-insertion ruins a show.
@@razumahiroki9216 the indian part isn't really relevant, Mindy's just a dumbass
@@razumahiroki9216 She's not even really a feminist, because that would require her to not also view other women as things to tear down to empower herself, or herself by proxy.
@@seigeengine You are right. How about feminazi or hypocrite?
@@razumahiroki9216 Don't forget "RICH PRIVILEGED narcissistic Indian woman", I wouldn't call her a feminist seeing the way she depicts her female characters though. She manages to be sexist towards both men and women
This actually made me tear up. I never realized how much I adored Fred's character. Seeing the new abomination, idk gets me more sad
I love how he talks about nets a lot 😂
“Those are francs”
“I thought they were mine!”
And the voice actor is Frank Welker lmao
Fred in all of the originals:
-an honest and strong leader
-cares for all of his friends
-happy go lucky guy that tries his best not to be cynical or nihilistic
Fred in Velma:
-narcissistic rich asshole
-actually canonically racist
-unlikeable in almost every single way
- can cut off a student's leg
- cant cut a steak
You just described Mindy Kaling.
@@HappyCynic So her real self insert isn't Velma but Fred?! 🤣 Velma is the person she wants to be while Fred is who she really is in her bad fanfic, I'm still not over what she has done to these characters
You forgot man child
He's an absolute Chad, and they deserve a kick in the Scooby-snack for suggesting otherwise.