Chelsea were competitive for the first half. They gave it a go for that half and the game was still alive until the 2nd goal which was in the 50th minute. They forced arsenal to play well and it was only once they went 2-0 and very quickly 3-0 before they threw the towel in. Did Brighton do the same? I don't think so.
â@@KristianDabeskiChelsea was Man city once. MAN City will be Chelsea before The Russia joined đđđ Arsenal is the only club in the premiere leauge with discipline and credit score. â€
So true only difference is he is a pundit. And forest a club involved in the league. I agree with you though. Think forest had every right to come out and say what they did. How else anyone gonna listen unless they made such a big deal out of it.
â@@marioknight5937explain then, roll over is a team giving up knowing the other team will win, like Chelsea the other night against arsenal. Brighton actually tried to play good football and didn't change their style for city, don't see how that's rolling over against the best team in the world
@@rosscleary9110 West Ham didn't lay down for Arsenal, Arsenal just cut their asses because they were better. I can't believe y'all don't understand the difference between laying down for a team and not being good enough to win. Comprehension, analysis and perspective are fundamental.
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j Clearly you didn't watch the Arsenal Chelsea game. Let me just copy paste what I had to explain to someone else "Chelsea got their ass spanked. Understand the difference. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. Arsenal scored early but Chelsea was able to suppress the storm that Arsenal was and going into the half at 1-0. Chelsea was still in it. Oh and btw Chelsea had about 2 or 3 guilt edge chances that could have had them in the lead by half time. Chelsea didn't lay down for Arsenal they just weren't good enough to match up to them. In the second half Arsenal's quality showed. It can get no clearer than this. If you can comprehend the difference then..."
All this flip flopping đ. "This is the tightest and best title race we've had in decades" and then "Who's going to stop ManCity, teams fear them" đ
Chelsea actually put some effort in, both teams had chances to score in the first half, the xG was 1.27 vs 1.21 at halftime and Jackson and Disasi missed two sitters. Brighton just didn't care at all and rolled over from the start. De Zerbi must be the most overrated manager ever.
He didn't, he said City were great but Brighton were shite. Can see them struggling next season unless they pull more brilliant recruitment out of the hat
FFS. Keown, are you blind? Using your logic, far more teams have 'rolled over' for Arsenal than City or Liverpool! Chelsea, Newcastle, West Ham, Palace, Burnley and, you guessed it, Brighton, being recent examples!
To all Arsenal/Liverpool fans who complain about City winning another title, look at your own team who had it in their hands but couldnât cope with the pressure. Thatâs one quality City possess your teams donât the ability to deal with adversity.
This is true. But if Man City continue to dominate the league as they have done because the gulf between city and the rest is so big, what's the point?!
@@mrkeithmorgan1 Exactly? - lmao. Are you even making a point? The point made by 58JMG was whether the league was worth it when Utd and Liverpool were dominating, FFP has nothing to do with it, the domination is the same. Is a league pointless when one club dominates - like in Germany and France?
Do you know what a run in is? A team can have an easier run in than another with both teams still having played the same number of games and teams over the course of the season overall. Both things can be true - learn what context is. Heâs a hard listen because youâre a fool.
Did he not watch Brighton against Arsenal? I had thought City would have a hard time at the Amex until I watched Arsenal pick Brighton apart while barely trying. I was a bit surprised that Pep didnât go hard after goal difference.
Brighton lost the Keeper, defender both Central midfielders and none of them have been replaced add to that the injuries this season, no March or Mitomo, Enciso plus the fact they ainât got a decent striker itâs not a surprise really
As a Liverpool fan what is disappointing is both us and Arsenal having allowed City to another title. City haven't been at their best season so credit to them.
Not sure as an Arsenal fan how we've allowed Man City to win another title, they're an incredible team. How many Arsenal players get into the City team? We're punching above our weight. You had a 5 point lead on City.
@@MrShahussareally bad ?? What. Yous havenât been. What you on about. Really bad. You expect yous to literally win every single match yous play. Yous have been brilliant. Just not as good as the last few seasons. Really bad?? I a Utd fan. I know what really bad is haha
@@MusaOzilOfficialwhat the smiley face for ?? 1 point difference between yous and Liverpool and yous and City if they win their game in hand. I a Utd fan. Yous have been the best team this season yet city most likely gonna win it.
@@Lovelydroppthey havenât played the same amount of games. Arsenal are only top because theyâve played an extra game đ€Ł we all know Arsenal arenât winning anything.
@@eljay6714 yeah so arsenal are top of the league. Thanks for confirming mate, wasnât too sure before u let me know! Itâs so impressive how many down bad people Martin has pissed off today đ€Łđ€Ł your head has completely gone pal
â@@Lovelydropp we all know Arsenal aren't winning anything AGAIN. Just wait until they are on equal games. Arsenal will be in 2nd.....like always. Sounds like your head is gone by the way you've bottled the season and every trophy again. What is it? The 4th straight season going trophyless?
@@theo9372 Brighton had ten shots against Arsenal and seven against Manchester City. But more importantly, it was an even match against Arsenal in the first half an hour before Arsenal got a penalty while they conceded three goals to Man City before that point. They just didn't care from the get go.
Keown is a hypocrite, many teams have rolled over for Arsenal (Crystal Palace, West Ham, Burnley, Sheffield United, Chelsea) and also most of those teams were also depleted
"Arsenal drew with Southampton and drew with West Ham at the business end of the season." Yep, and Liverpool lost at home to Crystal Palace and Everton at the business end of the season. They were also tipped second favourites to win the league. At the start of last season, Arsenal were tipped to finish 6th.
â@@ForzaMilan-di2zd The plan was to keep the ball passing it around among the players n the gk to lure City to come for it while they play long ball into the mid field for counter. City read it well n the plan failed. It's simple. Check the analysis of De Zerbi's Brighton tactics n u will find it.
@@NATAR160 I know what the plan is. I just think De Zerbi was too naive, to think he'll get away playing this way against this team of all teams. Basically we gave City the game. Coach needs to learn
Wonât hear a peep from Keown about teams rolling over for Arsenal by having their key players miss games against Arsenal through suspension or injury. Palmer, Douglas Luiz, half of Wolves team, Gnabry, Coman, Alphonso Davies, Udogie this weekend to name a few
@@johnsonaning7666 because Chelsea is pathetic... lacks any structure or leadership... Did Palmer drop out of the sky or did he get transferred from Man City??? How many penalties did Palmer take when he was at Man City???đ€
@@Rodney231 you sound like a kiddo. He didn't take a penalty kick for City because City already had one. Palmer has converted all his penalty kicks for Chelsea and that's why the coach prefer him
Arsenal bottled it when they went to city and parked the bus, instead of saying we are arsenal and we will beat you. And that negative we come for one point will cost you the league by one point. Thats why city win leagues because they would not park the bus and accept one point.
@@dre22which chance could have won you the game? Donât say the Jesus one where he put it wide and had a defender directly in front of him. Or the trossard one where he was clearly offside and hit it straight at the keeper. City had the clearer chances with haaland fresh airing and open net and ake missing a header from 2 yards. You parked the bus and showed no bottle from the 5th minute when haaland ran in behind the defence. From that very second. You camped on the edge of the 18 yard box. That is not a winning mentality.
Martin is feeling the exact thing us Liverpool fans have felt for years. Ill tell him as a fan. Nobody stops them Martin. As painful as it can be Citys derby rivals United have been a joke against them for 10 years. Wouldnt it have been nice during Liverpools 1 point title misses if Arsenal would have turned up ? Palace and Spurs have turned up against them oddly. So fair play to them.
@MrKiant are you some sort of Literalist ? No team ever has won every single game. It's what's known as generalisation. No team stops City in general. They have no historic rivals. Even Manchester United don't rouse themselves for the Manchester Derby. This is factually proven. They have very very few teams that offer a fight against them based on peps entire time at the club. I'll spell out 3 teams during a season who sometimes take points off them and not just based upon a one season sample. Literalist. Liverpool, Palace and Tottenham. Now, having been in a title race with them, I back up what I say. Martin is feeling what all Liverpool fans have felt for 7 years. You hope someone will give them a game and not wilt under their aura. But they don't. Apart from the occasional anomaly.
you can ONLY bottle something you are EXPECTED to win (no one expected Arsenal to do anything). Otherwise, we'd have to stop the hypocrisy and ALSO say that Liverpool bottled the league 7 times. See how that works???
@Dragonaut111 Only Arsenal bottled it. They was up 11 points and had a very bad run in. Now Arsenal is trying to call other bottle job to project their pain
I'm glad Martin addressed the whole "bottling it" nonsense surrounding Liverpool, considering they have MASSIVELY overachieved all season - 9th at one stage last season and not even in the discussions pre-season due to the rebuild. They've just run out of steam and senior players hitting periods of shocking form right at the worst time. simple as. On a side note, he can't be lambasting Brighton for rolling over when Arsenal absolutely steamrolled a piss poor Chelsea team the other night đCity fans watching that game thinking "here we go Chelsea might be the ones to take some points off our biggest rival" only to watch Chelsea not even trying to win....
All this flip flopping đ. "This is the tightest and best title race we've had in decades" and then "Who's going to stop ManCity, teams fear them" đ
Just heard Martin go on and on about Spurs and then saying Spurs fans only think about Arsenal. If only someone could explain to him in slow and clear terms the irony of that.
9 first team injuries Martin? We cannot play a full fit strong 11 against city. Donât blame Brighton for your own clubs shortcomings earlier in season
Keown is being quite blinkered in his analysis. De Zerbi has the biggest injury list imaginable and only a small squad. It is since that happened that there has been an inevitable fall-off in their performances. It says nothing about De Zerbi.
City fan here, we have been pretty bad this session. I do think Arsenal has been the best team this season on form. I can't believe they are behind City, it's just bonkers
Disrespectful to Brighton really. Is he saying the tactics they chose surrendered the game. Keown made his fair share of mistakes so he should wind his pencil neck in.
How funny would it be if keown was at the utd game in a few weeks and neville did a hop skip n jump barging into martin on the come down after utd beat them đđđ
Brighton didn't roll over for City, City forced them into schoolboy errors.... Unfortunately for us Arteta ripped the trust from the process against A Villa when he erred with positioning and selection...
Thing is I don't think they rolled over but how he tried to play like that against that city side is beyond me. They did like 10 passes in and around their own box under immense pressure. Why not just clear it? If it isn't ego from the manager then its shitty tactics. Foreign tosh, just hoof the ball out its ridiculous... We've seen City struggle when you press them all over the pitch, yes its hard to do but your not going to beat them by playing out from your box especially a team like Brighton.
Brighton have had our team torn apart this season, Mac Allister, Caiceido, Mitoma, March, Encisco, Ferguson, Gillmore, Estupinan, Lamptey, Hinchelwood, Webster, Pedro all gone for the whole or large parts of the season, how the hell you expect us to compete like last season?? The ref and VAR were as bad as us or worse last night, they pretty much handed the game to City with all the terrible calls they made. De Zerbi and the team will learn from this season and bounce back I believe if given the backing from the club
So when Arsenal played Brighton and made easy work of them given how open they played which ultimately led to a 3-0 drumming, for Martin, that was a fair and solid Brighton performance. But when they play in the same ilk vs City, then Brighton rolled over? To each their own, but that seems a bit of a double standard no?
Martin is completely clueless - Foden IS one of the best players in the league - Brighten did NOT rollover for Man City - they have been struggling lately and City played exceptionally well Martin should not be employed by talkSPORT if he can not at least pretend to be objectively neutral
Brighton has his best players taken from him to the big teams then has the rest of them injured playing young guns from South America basically there first year
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j No they were not. For most of the first half, the game was in the balance against Chelsea. They went to sleep in the second half. Brighton on the other hand didnât lay a glove on City. Game was over after 30mins and City eased off the gas. It was like a training ground match. Disgraceful
De Zerbi's being linked with a few top jobs, when all he did was take over what was already a good side that Graham Potter had built. Ok, he got them to 6th last season, but they're 11th currently & Potter got them to 9th in his last season, so he's hardly taken them to another level.
I listened this morning and couldn't believe the sheer distain that Keown spoke with, if Arsenal didn't lose to Villa then Arsenal would in the driving seat.
I wonder what Keown's opinion of Sheffield United's performance against Arsenal back at the beginning of March is? Or Chelsea a few days ago? Didn't both of them roll over for Arsenal?
If Arsenal had beaten Brighton the same way, guarantee Martin would have called it a champions performance from Arsenal! And how they were just the better side
Just trust the process, Arteta has transformed Arsenal and everyone has hope as compared to previous years. We are not talking of finishing top 4 but a chance of winning the league.
Martin stop moaning about teams rolling over and Shearers comment making it harder for teams to play city, absolutely rubbish. City are a great team who have won trophies on merit and are fighting for the title this season. Accept it,its no different to Fergies time with Man United
Brighton certainly rolled over, no possibility of relegation or Europe, De Zerbi fed up with no money & effectively advertising for a bigger job - the Brighton players are already on the beachâŠ
Who coached Palmer and Foden? Is it not Pep Guardiola and his system? So this is not propaganda, its a facts that Phil is one of the best young player and coached by the best.
poor from keown, Brighton missing about 10 players currently a few of which walk into MC, Liverpool and martins beloved arsenals starting line ups / match day squad. hes seething but at end of the day nothing is over yet !
Is he the biggest plum ever! Chelsea fight Man U, Liverpool, city, then whimpered to 5-0 for Arsenal! Also, loosing a 9 point lead if quite different to a tight race slipping away!
teams are settled in their positions in the table and dont have anything to fight for are rolling over and have one eye on holiday plans lol the only teams putting up a fight will be relegation or top 4 race teams at this stage of the season.
"When you look at City's fxiture, they're easier, ours are harder." So, Arsenal have already had their easy fixtures and are still going to lose the title to City?
Wait until City batter Nottingham Forest and we'll hear Martin Keown telling us how Nottingham Forest rolled over for City. He should understand that City has only one game to play for and they're very focused now.
@@TM-uh1qp I agree with you đŻ. I am sure even Pep knows that and you saw he substituted 5 players. That's something Pep never does. The only thing which might help City is the anxiety that Nottingham Forest will be having that they have to win the game. That will force them to open up and press City because they would like to score. Manchester City always struggle when teams are playing low block and defending with 10 players like Arsenal, Chelsea and Real Madrid did at Etihad.
As an Arsenal fan I really think Martin is right about foden is world class in my opinion but why be scared of that come the Euros if foden doesnât perform everyone will turn on him which is sad . By the Declan rice is POTY đđ»
And Chelsea didnât roll over? Their biggest loss ever to Arsenal
Nah Chelsea rolled over seasons ago, they just met us and we schooled them. Simple
@@isaacjacobs3785 Chelsea schooled Arsenal at the Bridge
@@KristianDabeski Living in the past precious ?
Chelsea were competitive for the first half. They gave it a go for that half and the game was still alive until the 2nd goal which was in the 50th minute. They forced arsenal to play well and it was only once they went 2-0 and very quickly 3-0 before they threw the towel in. Did Brighton do the same? I don't think so.
â@@KristianDabeskiChelsea was Man city once. MAN City will be Chelsea before The Russia joined đđđ
Arsenal is the only club in the premiere leauge with discipline and credit score. â€
I bet Martin was not disappointed when Arsenal played Brighton and Chelsea đđ
And this is why people don't listen to Arsenal fans or ex Arsenal players
You surely do.
@@realeyes2458 lol nope just looked at the title of the vid đ didn't need to listen
That's called stereotyping and makes as much sense as racism.
@@MrKeefy1967 đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł wow you are a little fragile comparing what I said to Racism đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł bloody hell
Heâs not lying but Iâve been saying thisâŠteams have been just rolling over for Arsenal and city
Cant question referees integrity but can question players and teams of doing the same. Hypocrisy.
Such facts
So true only difference is he is a pundit. And forest a club involved in the league. I agree with you though. Think forest had every right to come out and say what they did. How else anyone gonna listen unless they made such a big deal out of it.
He wasnât crying when they rolled over for Arsenal 2 weeks ago
tell me you don't know what roll over means without telling me what roll over means đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
@@marioknight5937 What West Ham did against Arsenal. Anything else?
â@@marioknight5937explain then, roll over is a team giving up knowing the other team will win, like Chelsea the other night against arsenal. Brighton actually tried to play good football and didn't change their style for city, don't see how that's rolling over against the best team in the world
@@rosscleary9110 West Ham didn't lay down for Arsenal, Arsenal just cut their asses because they were better. I can't believe y'all don't understand the difference between laying down for a team and not being good enough to win. Comprehension, analysis and perspective are fundamental.
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j Clearly you didn't watch the Arsenal Chelsea game. Let me just copy paste what I had to explain to someone else
"Chelsea got their ass spanked. Understand the difference. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. Arsenal scored early but Chelsea was able to suppress the storm that Arsenal was and going into the half at 1-0. Chelsea was still in it. Oh and btw Chelsea had about 2 or 3 guilt edge chances that could have had them in the lead by half time. Chelsea didn't lay down for Arsenal they just weren't good enough to match up to them. In the second half Arsenal's quality showed. It can get no clearer than this. If you can comprehend the difference then..."
- Arsenal beat Chelsea,Great Win
- City beat Brighton,Rolled Over for City
- City against Establishment,no?đ
All this flip flopping đ. "This is the tightest and best title race we've had in decades" and then "Who's going to stop ManCity, teams fear them" đ
Was thinking the same, chelsea rolled over and let odegard and rice tickle there bellyđ
Chelsea actually put some effort in, both teams had chances to score in the first half, the xG was 1.27 vs 1.21 at halftime and Jackson and Disasi missed two sitters. Brighton just didn't care at all and rolled over from the start. De Zerbi must be the most overrated manager ever.
Chelsea absolutely rolled over. Has anyone not had that opinion?
Chelsea only gave up 1 in the first half. Brighton was bent over by half an hour.
What a bitter man is Martin, degrading every city result. Poor martin
He didn't, he said City were great but Brighton were shite. Can see them struggling next season unless they pull more brilliant recruitment out of the hat
â@@paddyandhisguitar2831he did, he gets bitter đ
FFS. Keown, are you blind? Using your logic, far more teams have 'rolled over' for Arsenal than City or Liverpool!
Chelsea, Newcastle, West Ham, Palace, Burnley and, you guessed it, Brighton, being recent examples!
To all Arsenal/Liverpool fans who complain about City winning another title, look at your own team who had it in their hands but couldnât cope with the pressure. Thatâs one quality City possess your teams donât the ability to deal with adversity.
This is true. But if Man City continue to dominate the league as they have done because the gulf between city and the rest is so big, what's the point?!
â@@mrkeithmorgan1
In that case, what was the point when United won 13 in 21 seasons? Or when Liverpool won 11 in 18.
@58JMG exactly! Difference is Man U and Liverpool weren't facing 115 chargesđ
@@mrkeithmorgan1 Exactly? - lmao. Are you even making a point? The point made by 58JMG was whether the league was worth it when Utd and Liverpool were dominating, FFP has nothing to do with it, the domination is the same. Is a league pointless when one club dominates - like in Germany and France?
We do look at our own team and we don't see the shadow of 115 charges handing over our head.
Never seen anyone as bitter as this lmaooo
Keown is a hard listen. .. complaining city have an easier run in yet they all play the same teams over a 38 season. Muppet.
Do you know what a run in is? A team can have an easier run in than another with both teams still having played the same number of games and teams over the course of the season overall. Both things can be true - learn what context is. Heâs a hard listen because youâre a fool.
Did he not watch Brighton against Arsenal? I had thought City would have a hard time at the Amex until I watched Arsenal pick Brighton apart while barely trying. I was a bit surprised that Pep didnât go hard after goal difference.
Brighton lost the Keeper, defender both Central midfielders and none of them have been replaced add to that the injuries this season, no March or Mitomo, Enciso plus the fact they ainât got a decent striker itâs not a surprise really
Keown trying to write off Foden, what a melt the man is đ€Ł
Says he's been talked up and put into opponents heads ...then says he's player of the season for me đ
But albino gifted foden goals if u watched the game ,it wasn't that hard
Foden is over rated like any other british players who the media always pushing
@@craigmillington1258rashford is over rated foden is under appreciated.
As a Liverpool fan what is disappointing is both us and Arsenal having allowed City to another title. City haven't been at their best season so credit to them.
You are spot on. I follow City and we have been really bad this season
Not sure as an Arsenal fan how we've allowed Man City to win another title, they're an incredible team. How many Arsenal players get into the City team? We're punching above our weight. You had a 5 point lead on City.
Arsenal havenât âallowedâ anything. We are still in the race with them. Not sure about Liverpool though đ
@@MrShahussareally bad ?? What. Yous havenât been. What you on about. Really bad. You expect yous to literally win every single match yous play. Yous have been brilliant. Just not as good as the last few seasons. Really bad?? I a Utd fan. I know what really bad is haha
@@MusaOzilOfficialwhat the smiley face for ?? 1 point difference between yous and Liverpool and yous and City if they win their game in hand. I a Utd fan. Yous have been the best team this season yet city most likely gonna win it.
Caveman Keown is raging this morning đ€Łđ€Ł
Yeah heâs fuming that heâs pocketed Simon yet again and arsenal are top of the table. You must be right, heâs absolutely fuming!
@@Lovelydroppthey havenât played the same amount of games. Arsenal are only top because theyâve played an extra game đ€Ł we all know Arsenal arenât winning anything.
@@Lovelydropppocketed Simon for making excuses? đ€Ł you are so lost.
@@eljay6714 yeah so arsenal are top of the league. Thanks for confirming mate, wasnât too sure before u let me know!
Itâs so impressive how many down bad people Martin has pissed off today đ€Łđ€Ł your head has completely gone pal
â@@Lovelydropp we all know Arsenal aren't winning anything AGAIN. Just wait until they are on equal games. Arsenal will be in 2nd.....like always.
Sounds like your head is gone by the way you've bottled the season and every trophy again. What is it? The 4th straight season going trophyless?
Keown is just mad he wouldn't be saying that if it was arsenal
He didn't say that Wolves and Chelsea were depleted with injuries and that Arsenal had everybody back
Well duh
People are bias?!?!? Omg this has never happened before!!!!!!
Known is just ticked off because Brighton went to Arsenal at the end last season, and won 3-0 and took the title away from them.
âDe zervayâ btw
'De Zervay's' a top job.
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De Survey is easier on the tongue
De Surveyyy the Hipser
We asked a 100 people "do you agree that Martin Keown is a bitter twat" Da Zurvey says..100/100 people agreed
Martin is unbelievably bitterđđđđđ
Same as Brighton didnât roll over when they played Arsenal a few weeks ago đ
De Survey đ Survey says your deluded mate
Ha isn't wasn't just me noticed his strange pronunciation
Its funny, when teams "have a go" against City everyone complains they "rolled over" when they park the bus they complain "why didnt they have a go?"
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Thank you....I said the same thing
Constantly trying to pass out from the back and then it's game over in 20 minutes is not really having a go, is it?
â@@ruthraibrighton had more shots on target against city than arsenal. Did they roll over for arsenal?
@@theo9372 Brighton had ten shots against Arsenal and seven against Manchester City. But more importantly, it was an even match against Arsenal in the first half an hour before Arsenal got a penalty while they conceded three goals to Man City before that point. They just didn't care from the get go.
Keown is a hypocrite, many teams have rolled over for Arsenal (Crystal Palace, West Ham, Burnley, Sheffield United, Chelsea) and also most of those teams were also depleted
"Arsenal drew with Southampton and drew with West Ham at the business end of the season."
Yep, and Liverpool lost at home to Crystal Palace and Everton at the business end of the season. They were also tipped second favourites to win the league. At the start of last season, Arsenal were tipped to finish 6th.
Mr. Keown give us name of your dealer because the product is magnificent đ
Chelsea let arsenal walk all over them. Martin is as deluded as TY from aftv
"Chelsea let" is just a ridiculous phrase
Deluded is your comment defending an absolute calamity of a team
@@mjg4529 I was taking the piss out of Martin, sorry you don't understand sarcasm.
We did roll over for City. City werenât nothing special. 2 goals given to them thru our players or the managers stupidity. Was embarrassing coaching
â@@ForzaMilan-di2zd The plan was to keep the ball passing it around among the players n the gk to lure City to come for it while they play long ball into the mid field for counter. City read it well n the plan failed. It's simple. Check the analysis of De Zerbi's Brighton tactics n u will find it.
@@NATAR160 I know what the plan is. I just think De Zerbi was too naive, to think he'll get away playing this way against this team of all teams. Basically we gave City the game. Coach needs to learn
Man City were absolutely ruthless last night, its hard to see them losing another match this season.
WE'RE CHEATING AND WE LOVE IT!
We do
Yeah we cheated 115 times versus Brighton as well. You can count the moments!
Love you Man đ
115 reasons why we love winning đ
Rodri has been better than rice.
One English the others not. You notice they brought up 3 English players for the poty
But rice isn't a CDM but CAM
@@barugambireismailismail1688 he's not a cam lol
@@barugambireismailismail1688 no he is not.
Can we even compare Rodri to Rice really???
Wonât hear a peep from Keown about teams rolling over for Arsenal by having their key players miss games against Arsenal through suspension or injury. Palmer, Douglas Luiz, half of Wolves team, Gnabry, Coman, Alphonso Davies, Udogie this weekend to name a few
Martin conveniently forgetting all the years his arsenal were regularly shipping 4s and 5s against city when they were in title races with Liverpool
Villa rolled over too when they played their 3rd team vs City.
Just Imagine what foden goal tally would be if he added like 10 pens to his already impressive goals ...
Maybe he's not a good penalty taker
@@johnsonaning7666 I have seen him score....I have never seen him miss a pen
@@Rodney231 And he is not the penalty taker for City but Palmer is for Chelsea.
@@johnsonaning7666 because Chelsea is pathetic... lacks any structure or leadership... Did Palmer drop out of the sky or did he get transferred from Man City??? How many penalties did Palmer take when he was at Man City???đ€
@@Rodney231 you sound like a kiddo. He didn't take a penalty kick for City because City already had one. Palmer has converted all his penalty kicks for Chelsea and that's why the coach prefer him
đđThis Martin guy is hurt,omg!!!!
Sheeesh, man!!!đą
Arsenal bottled it when they went to city and parked the bus, instead of saying we are arsenal and we will beat you. And that negative we come for one point will cost you the league by one point. Thats why city win leagues because they would not park the bus and accept one point.
We created chances to win that game and had more shots on target than City
If only those 115 charges aren't parked
@@dre22 You had 28% possession .
@@realeyes2458literally the driest banter. Log off.
@@dre22which chance could have won you the game? Donât say the Jesus one where he put it wide and had a defender directly in front of him.
Or the trossard one where he was clearly offside and hit it straight at the keeper.
City had the clearer chances with haaland fresh airing and open net and ake missing a header from 2 yards.
You parked the bus and showed no bottle from the 5th minute when haaland ran in behind the defence.
From that very second. You camped on the edge of the 18 yard box.
That is not a winning mentality.
Martin is feeling the exact thing us Liverpool fans have felt for years. Ill tell him as a fan. Nobody stops them Martin. As painful as it can be Citys derby rivals United have been a joke against them for 10 years. Wouldnt it have been nice during Liverpools 1 point title misses if Arsenal would have turned up ?
Palace and Spurs have turned up against them oddly. So fair play to them.
Nobody stops them and lists 2 teams who played well against city. Oh the cognitive dissonance
@MrKiant are you some sort of Literalist ? No team ever has won every single game. It's what's known as generalisation. No team stops City in general. They have no historic rivals. Even Manchester United don't rouse themselves for the Manchester Derby. This is factually proven. They have very very few teams that offer a fight against them based on peps entire time at the club. I'll spell out 3 teams during a season who sometimes take points off them and not just based upon a one season sample. Literalist.
Liverpool, Palace and Tottenham. Now, having been in a title race with them, I back up what I say. Martin is feeling what all Liverpool fans have felt for 7 years. You hope someone will give them a game and not wilt under their aura. But they don't. Apart from the occasional anomaly.
Imagine trying to justify Arsenal bottling it again!! Keown actually looks like a spoiled petulant child on here. đ
you can ONLY bottle something you are EXPECTED to win (no one expected Arsenal to do anything). Otherwise, we'd have to stop the hypocrisy and ALSO say that Liverpool bottled the league 7 times. See how that works???
â@@marioknight5937Arsenal and bottling have the same meaning!!
@@jacklegros6614 and 'Liverpool' means the same thing but 7 times stronger đ€·ââđ„±đ„± boring banter
Crazy liverpool will end up with a trophy this season, whereas the best arsenal in the last 15 years will end up with the best defence and attack đ
klopps quadruple farewell season? just tin pot cup? cry bout it
So it's up to Brighton to help Arsenal win the league.Oh dear oh dear.What about the home loss to Villa Does that not count if they don't win it.
That bottle word has traumatized Arsenal fan so they try to call other it. Hurt People, Hurt People
Not an Arsenal fan but people are using the word wrong, you can't bottle the title every week.
@Dragonaut111 Only Arsenal bottled it. They was up 11 points and had a very bad run in. Now Arsenal is trying to call other bottle job to project their pain
@@realgems24liverpool 5 points in front bottled it cry bout it
He's shaking in his boots!
I'm glad Martin addressed the whole "bottling it" nonsense surrounding Liverpool, considering they have MASSIVELY overachieved all season - 9th at one stage last season and not even in the discussions pre-season due to the rebuild. They've just run out of steam and senior players hitting periods of shocking form right at the worst time. simple as.
On a side note, he can't be lambasting Brighton for rolling over when Arsenal absolutely steamrolled a piss poor Chelsea team the other night đCity fans watching that game thinking "here we go Chelsea might be the ones to take some points off our biggest rival" only to watch Chelsea not even trying to win....
Heâs literally just copied what Carragher said and made it sound like he came up with it
Where they not top of the league for most of the season? Have they not capitulated?
@@russellward4624 No?
Liverpool led by 5 points by Xmas with no games in hand by arsenal or City, Liverpool bottled it
All this flip flopping đ. "This is the tightest and best title race we've had in decades" and then "Who's going to stop ManCity, teams fear them" đ
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber đŻ Facts
Just heard Martin go on and on about Spurs and then saying Spurs fans only think about Arsenal. If only someone could explain to him in slow and clear terms the irony of that.
Spurs do only think about Arsenal because they never have anything else to play for
Yeah, Arsenal fans literally invented a day for when they were assured of finishing above Spurs! đ
9 first team injuries Martin? We cannot play a full fit strong 11 against city. Donât blame Brighton for your own clubs shortcomings earlier in season
Keown is being quite blinkered in his analysis. De Zerbi has the biggest injury list imaginable and only a small squad. It is since that happened that there has been an inevitable fall-off in their performances. It says nothing about De Zerbi.
It says he's a one trick pony if he can't adjust his tactics and style at all. He's worse than Kompany.
As much as i would like to agree with Martin. Arsenal had it in their hands up until the Villa game at home. That loss killed us.
The same Villa who rested players when they played Man City
What so arsenal canât win the league because everyoneâs rolling over for city? Come on Martin donât be so silly
He wasnt disappointed in them when Arsenal won 3-0.. if Arsenal can do it Man City dfinitely can do it as well
City fan here, we have been pretty bad this session. I do think Arsenal has been the best team this season on form. I can't believe they are behind City, it's just bonkers
Disrespectful to Brighton really. Is he saying the tactics they chose surrendered the game. Keown made his fair share of mistakes so he should wind his pencil neck in.
A comma is needed in the title as it reads as Brighton claimed they rolled over.
Never rated De Zervee
Keown should have his own show. No nonsense, straight talking, cascading wisdom. Make it happen please, Talksport.
How funny would it be if keown was at the utd game in a few weeks and neville did a hop skip n jump barging into martin on the come down after utd beat them đđđ
Brighton didn't roll over for City, City forced them into schoolboy errors....
Unfortunately for us Arteta ripped the trust from the process against A Villa when he erred with positioning and selection...
So when Arsenal beat Brighton 3-0 a couple of weeks ago did they roll over then? What about Chelsea the other night rolling over 5-0. Awful 'pundit'.
Depends how they played doesn't it?
Thing is I don't think they rolled over but how he tried to play like that against that city side is beyond me.
They did like 10 passes in and around their own box under immense pressure. Why not just clear it? If it isn't ego from the manager then its shitty tactics. Foreign tosh, just hoof the ball out its ridiculous...
We've seen City struggle when you press them all over the pitch, yes its hard to do but your not going to beat them by playing out from your box especially a team like Brighton.
Brighton have had our team torn apart this season, Mac Allister, Caiceido, Mitoma, March, Encisco, Ferguson, Gillmore, Estupinan, Lamptey, Hinchelwood, Webster, Pedro all gone for the whole or large parts of the season, how the hell you expect us to compete like last season?? The ref and VAR were as bad as us or worse last night, they pretty much handed the game to City with all the terrible calls they made. De Zerbi and the team will learn from this season and bounce back I believe if given the backing from the club
So when Arsenal played Brighton and made easy work of them given how open they played which ultimately led to a 3-0 drumming, for Martin, that was a fair and solid Brighton performance. But when they play in the same ilk vs City, then Brighton rolled over? To each their own, but that seems a bit of a double standard no?
Look at Simon smirking at Keown, at the way he's whining at Brighton for losing, Big Kid.
Can't believe Keown has the nerve to say Brighton rolled over for Man City after what Chelsea put up against Arsenal
Martin is completely clueless - Foden IS one of the best players in the league - Brighten did NOT rollover for Man City - they have been struggling lately and City played exceptionally well
Martin should not be employed by talkSPORT if he can not at least pretend to be objectively neutral
100% correct.
martin spitting facts
Brighton has his best players taken from him to the big teams then has the rest of them injured playing young guns from South America basically there first year
Brighton were abysmal and the passing out of the back was madness.
đ€Łđ€Ł De Survery wants to be Pep so bad
They were better than Chelsea were against arsenal. Either way if you try and play football or park the bus city will still get chances
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j No they were not. For most of the first half, the game was in the balance against Chelsea. They went to sleep in the second half. Brighton on the other hand didnât lay a glove on City. Game was over after 30mins and City eased off the gas. It was like a training ground match. Disgraceful
@@dre22 Chelsea were beat 5 nil, they couldn't get passed arsenal's midfield with 2 players in the team that cost as much as Brightons whole team
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j watch the game and not the scoreline
De Zerbi's being linked with a few top jobs, when all he did was take over what was already a good side that Graham Potter had built. Ok, he got them to 6th last season, but they're 11th currently & Potter got them to 9th in his last season, so he's hardly taken them to another level.
Keown comedy gold !!!
I listened this morning and couldn't believe the sheer distain that Keown spoke with, if Arsenal didn't lose to Villa then Arsenal would in the driving seat.
I wonder what Keown's opinion of Sheffield United's performance against Arsenal back at the beginning of March is? Or Chelsea a few days ago? Didn't both of them roll over for Arsenal?
I don't think he appreciates the work rate of city out of possession. Very difficult to play against.
If Arsenal had beaten Brighton the same way, guarantee Martin would have called it a champions performance from Arsenal! And how they were just the better side
I think every team that tries to play out from the back and makes a mess of it should get docked points !!!!
Without a doubt, Spurs are going to decide who wins the PLâŠâŠ
Kind of like how Brighton rolled over for Arsenal a couple weeks ago ?
Getting a bit bored of cartel approved pundits
Just trust the process, Arteta has transformed Arsenal and everyone has hope as compared to previous years. We are not talking of finishing top 4 but a chance of winning the league.
Martin stop moaning about teams rolling over and Shearers comment making it harder for teams to play city, absolutely rubbish. City are a great team who have won trophies on merit and are fighting for the title this season. Accept it,its no different to Fergies time with Man United
Foden is the player of the season. Palmer is the runner up.
Brighton certainly rolled over, no possibility of relegation or Europe, De Zerbi fed up with no money & effectively advertising for a bigger job - the Brighton players are already on the beachâŠ
Who coached Palmer and Foden? Is it not Pep Guardiola and his system? So this is not propaganda, its a facts that Phil is one of the best young player and coached by the best.
Aston Villa brings a second team against City who knows why.. and now Brighton plays like this.
poor from keown, Brighton missing about 10 players currently a few of which walk into MC, Liverpool and martins beloved arsenals starting line ups / match day squad. hes seething but at end of the day nothing is over yet !
Where was Martin in the last few years. It's now a problem that media prop city up because Arsenal are now close to challenge for a title
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Is he the biggest plum ever!
Chelsea fight Man U, Liverpool, city, then whimpered to 5-0 for Arsenal!
Also, loosing a 9 point lead if quite different to a tight race slipping away!
teams are settled in their positions in the table and dont have anything to fight for are rolling over and have one eye on holiday plans lol the only teams putting up a fight will be relegation or top 4 race teams at this stage of the season.
Keown is odd sometimes. Saying that everyone is scared of City but Arsenal haven't like he wouldn't have against Utd. SO what is your point.
Oh dear Keown is such a baby
"When you look at City's fxiture, they're easier, ours are harder." So, Arsenal have already had their easy fixtures and are still going to lose the title to City?
Exactly what I thought watching it . Brighton didn't brake a sweat
Arsenal fan here.
Martin is so emotional and lacks reason in his thinking.
Doesnât even know the brightons managers name. Says it all about keown
Wait until City batter Nottingham Forest and we'll hear Martin Keown telling us how Nottingham Forest rolled over for City. He should understand that City has only one game to play for and they're very focused now.
Forest will give city a tougher game than Brighton did. They also have something to play for.
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I agree with you đŻ. I am sure even Pep knows that and you saw he substituted 5 players. That's something Pep never does. The only thing which might help City is the anxiety that Nottingham Forest will be having that they have to win the game. That will force them to open up and press City because they would like to score. Manchester City always struggle when teams are playing low block and defending with 10 players like Arsenal, Chelsea and Real Madrid did at Etihad.
As an Arsenal fan I really think Martin is right about foden is world class in my opinion but why be scared of that come the Euros if foden doesnât perform everyone will turn on him which is sad . By the Declan rice is POTY đđ»
Guardiola better take this threat on him very seriously
Yes, Chelsea did the same against Arsenal, and that was a Local Derby !!!!
Saying a player is good is propaganda, he honestly can't be serious đ€Łđ€Ł
Are people sure that this Roberto de Zerbi is the bees knees?
Because it sure doesn't look like it to me.
Normal this side of the season. Mid table teams are already on holiday