RISE OF THE THIRD POWER: Review - Indie Trash or Treasure?!
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Was made in RPGMaker, but ported to Unity during development.
The leveling system definitely challenges which is a good thing for some players who might get bored with basic level grinding for traditional gains with new skills. Have a great weekend David and I'll see you on twitch later for live a live.
However I hate SKILL tree related systems reason being with that system its nearly impossible to learn EVERYTHING that's why I even hated Dragon Quests 8 and 9.
I’m in love with those graphics! And by the makers of Ara Fell? Sold.
As for the character portraits, I would point you to Lunar. I loved them there, love them here from what I’ve seen.
They really need to make an Ara Fell sequel... theres just so much they can do after that ending...
Ara Fell sucks. Good thing I saw this comment.
I do wish you could turn the portraits off. I'm definitely getting this game but with my backlog I think I'll wait for a discount. If I grab an indie at full price in the near future, Crystal Project seems a bit more interesting.
I agree with the portrait complaint that isn't petty. Pulls you out of nostalgia and I hate overly anime esque art.
Really looking forward to playing this! You’re right though, the character drawings during the dialogue are goofy as hell.
I'm with you on the hand-drawn character sprites. Honestly, they wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for those noses. They look like something out of one of those 'How to Draw Anime' books that you can tell were made by people who know very little about the artform.
It looks like something my 5th graders would doodle during recess
Those portraits are hot garbage😅. I loved Ara Fell so I’ll have to try this out. Great video and run down 🤙🏻
I've actually been wanting to pick this one up myself before long! While I feel pretty similar to you when it comes to indie RPGs, but RoTP grabbed my attention with its early trailers, and if it gets your stamp of approval, I know it's good xD
I totally feel you on the character portraits. The art certainly isn't bad, and I don't mind 'em, even in 26-bit throwback games, but boy is it out of sync with the rest of the visual design
Same creators as Ara Fell. They did a pretty good job with this one.
I'm about 7 hours in with an indie RPG called Shadow Fate, and by god it's sooooo good! I've already picked up Rise of the Third Power and I had beaten Ara Fell in the past, but I'd recommend Shadow Fate to you David. It's got a really cool battle system, amazing pixel character animations, and it fits right in with the 90s jrpg aesthetics. The first quarter of the game even feels like something out of FF7.
Oh damn you just reviewed it! I finished it last month. All in all, I thought it was an interesting game. It was more open than Ara Fell (which I would still love to see a sequel for). The music was fantastic and the story itself was pretty good. I like when certain things start to heat up towards the end.
I'm about halfway through the game and I'm enjoying it so far
Randomly just saw this on sale in the eshop. Had to come over to see if my favorite JRPG channel approved of the game or not. Great review. Picking it now.
I've definitely had my eye on this one! Appreciate your love of RPGs, especially old school ones. Live a live is the one I'm most looking forward to this year!
I like the portraits.
I was listening to this in the car on my drive home. I was really tuned out when you said “RPG maker” game as I expected it to look like Kemco garbage. Gotta say tho, once I got home and checked out the visuals, I love the aesthetic. I don’t even mind the portraits but I like anime already. I’m super excited to check this out David, thanks for all you do!
Kinda reminds me of Doom & Destiny with the way you describe the humor. I will have to give this a shot.
I hate the grainy low-res font. Hate hate hate it.
The original games were grainy and low-res because the hardware of the time couldn't do any better, not because the developers thought that it would be ironically retro or something. I don't have a problem with simple graphics, but I do have a problem with pointless eye strain.
I played this game on a whim and absolutely adored my playthrough. Super awesome game, can't wait for more from them.
Is David coming around to paying attention to indie games? The last video I saw from him was about a Final Fantasy 5 inspired indie RPG with a job system and heavy focus on crystal gathering that looked cool. He often says that he doesn't engage with the indie scene, but maybe that is changing. A lot of indie games are more reminiscent of the RPGs from the 90s that inspired them, and David has asserted his opinion that he isn't as interested in the big budget new releases as he used to be. Also a lot of the new JRPGs are moving towards fast paced, edge of your seat action like Final Fantasy 7 Remake, FFXVI, and the new Trails arc, so it is nice to still have classic turn-based options. In the end a game should be judged on it's own merits and not whether it was made by a multi-million dollar AAA studio, or by a small group of passionate individuals working on something they genuinely care about.
I can agree with you there. I've just been burned by so many Indies in the past that I'm very cautious whenever it comes to them
@@davidvinc I get that. If you take a look through Steam's storefront there are a crap ton of RPG maker games and the like that can be subpar RPG experiences. I find it hard to hate on them though as they are often made by regular people who are learning as they go. I did enjoy Cosmic Star Heroine, Ara Fell, Fell Seal: Arbiters Mark, and Stardew Valley. I might not have given Fell Seal a chance until you recommended it. As a FFTactics inspired strategy RPG with a deep job system, it scratched the right spots. See you in the next video David :)
Oh my God, the boldness of the trash/treasure font makes me nervous 😂😂😂😂 love it David!
Man the anger at the portraits haha. I think it's a nice touch since not all games like this (especially indie) would even have custom art for portraits, I think it's fine might have been cooler for games like this to have portraits more often (I say this as a pixel artist) . Good review tho
Appreciate the honest review! Been thinking of checking this out but was afraid to after KEMCO 😁
Thanks for the review, David! Has me wanting to play - kind of gives me the same hidden gem vibes as “Fuga: Melodies of Steel” for some reason.
I love when my game reviews come with a side of puns and pettiness. Thanks for another great one, D!
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Seems like a good switch purchase. The character portraits don’t bother me that much, but I see your point. lol I’ll take a chance for $20.
Blunt in positives and negatives, can appreciate this kind of review.
The sprites are surprisingly detailed. Imma find ways to play this game.
Great video! Thank you David, I've just got the game! 😁
I can't wait for Sea of Stars. This indie rpg look so good. You have to chek this game. 😁
The most honest reviews seriously very good
This game is so good glad I bought it. I like the cannon girl
I been wanting to try out this game. I'll will buy it when there is a sale on it. Thanks David :)
I really liked your review of the game David it seems like the devs don't want people to waste time,there is no grinding and annoying random encounters that ruin the dungeon exploration,the progression system also seems to Be like that since from what you Said the player needs to get a certain resourse through side quests to level up,i am really interested in the game Now😃
This was a great game! It had a more mature story and "grey" characters that weren't some goodie 2 shoes for the sake of being good. They had secrets and dark pasts and some really dark stuff that will leave you and the party stunned. It is absolutely worth your time and the 20 dollar price.
I haven't played the game yet but I like the character portraits.
Just finished it a few days ago on the hardest difficulty. Definitely one for the old school JRPG players. I don't think anyone that didn't grow up in the SNES or PlayStation error will appreciate this one. It has its issues, but I'm glad I devoted the 50 hours it took me to finish it.
But I don't really get the hate for the portraits. They're fine.
I think without portraits it would be a bit dry. I agree for better protraits tho. Just started today and it's damn fun.
I'm glad for the review. The character portraits alone were keeping me from buying this despite several recommendations. I think I'll give it a try at some point if it goes on sale.
YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME?! -Nickel
@@Crossbattle777 I believed you just had reservations lol.
@@gunplagoblin9658 that's like giving me half credit 😭😭😭 jk. It's on sale right now on psn
@@Crossbattle777 I just need one more person lol. Though with your excellent Utawarerumono taste I shouldn't have.
@@Crossbattle777 I give you 83.2% of the credit. =)
😀 glad you looked at this. I 100% this on the switch. loved it.
Kinda crazy seeing a new game still using First Seed tilesets. They're almost 20 years old by now XD
Good review. Loved the game. Beat it in a week.
Dude this looks awesome!! I love hidden gems like this. The portraits do feel way out of character to the rest of the game to me. Makes it look like a flash game
Trash or treasure? Why only two extreme options? Jeez!
I think the portraits are fine. It's true SNES games generally didn't have them, but it's also true they suffered for their absence.
You could argue they should have been done as pixel art to match the rest of the game. See: Crosscode.
Damn it David, why do I keep spending money after watching your videos ? LOL. Thanks for the recommendation, I can look past the nitpicks as SNES style sold it to me. 😊
bought the game, hopes are high it looks good
Thank you david I just heard of this little gem
"...trash RPG Maker games that are a dime a dozen..."
Kemco: ¬_¬
Heh, I did those portraits. My feels are hurt, David. 😰🥺
I'm sorry but the portraits look like they don't belong. Why do so many indie retro-inspired RPG games have these? The games that the indie devs draw inspiration from... do not have these...and clearly, most people don't like them.
Sounds like I should get it.
After I wait several months to see if LRG or someone else doles out Physical Copies first.
I wouldn't mind a sequel to the game.
i really enjoyed this game.
Dangen makes awesome games. You should play Astalon Tears of the Earth. Prob my fav game of 2021
Had to give that title a second look. lol xD
Sir, you had me at "developed by the people who made Ara Fell". Sorry, wallet.
Have you ever played Bug Fables: the Everlasting Sapling? I've heard good things about it, but only in passing.
I have! there’s a review up on the channel for it too
I loved this game
You're right.. those portraits are fugly. Would've been better without them. What were they thinking?
The portraits grow on you
Not to disrespect the artist that made the portraits but i hope there's a mod on PC to remove them.
Also not a fan of the portraits... Although I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "bad". Imo, they are simply generic & uninspired. But, as Dave pointed out, its clearly a mobile/anime art style, which clashes with the 16-bit aesthetic of everything else.
The portraits look like the were ripped from a different game from the iOS or App store and ported into this one.
At least they are more expressive than some others I've seen over the years.
I know I'm being petty but those portraits actually put me off the game. I'll just wait for sea of stars I think. Cheers for the review David!
"I know what you're probably thinking. That this is just one of those trash rpg maker games" No. That's at all what I thinking when I saw the trailer. lmao
I find portraits decent
i agree 👍 definitely not a fan of the portraits
Star ocean didn’t have portraits like those??
Not on the SNES
@@davidvinc did they add portraits to First Departure?!
@@ToolFloydChimera yes
@@davidvinc that’s what got me.
i get an arafell vibe
👏👏👏
I was drawing at my desk while this played and when David lost it over the portraits, my wife burst out laughing from the other room.
Glad to see you reviewing this one. I've been keeping my eye on the game since its release but haven't caved in yet. Mostly because my backlog is pretty lengthy already. This review might just be the thing to push me over the edge.
I agree with your take on the graphics. It does look like different people made the graphics for combat, field and portraits. It's a bit off-putting, but not a deal breaker imo.
I caved because of Ara Fell. I wasn't disappointed.
Eeesh your not lying about the portraits.. Kinda ruins it for me too..
Two indie JRPGs in a row? Both with positive reviews?
Are you starting to reconsider your interest in the indie scene, Dave?
No more indies that interest me are on the horizon, but I had to check these 2 out. I'm fair, I'll give credit where credit is due.
The lore is great and the gameplay is a good one but damn that artwork is helluva rushed 😂
I don't know but something tells me you don't like the character portraits.
Lol
Dude, the character portraits are actually completely fine, they're really not "low-quality" or "ugly" at all, you're WAY overreacting...
Thanks for reviewing this one. While I do like a lot of indie games, most of those tend to be metroidvanias rather than RPGs so I'm a little more hesitant when it comes to diving head-first into the latter. With your review, I've now seen a couple of positive reviews from sources I find to be reliable so I'll probably get this game and give it a try. I'm not fond of the style of the character portraits either, but I think the battle sprites for the characters look great and I'm wanting to see more of that.
There is quite a bit of bias against RPG Maker, but I'm not of the opinion that building a game with the software necessarily means it will be generic and I think good games can potentially be made with it. The results depend on the creativity of those making the game, just because the creators don't have vast programming knowledge or a lot of experience with more powerful game-building engines doesn't mean that they don't have skills in other areas that are vital to making a good game.
i agree with you on the character portraits ..theyre horrid and dont fit in with the pixel style of the game.
The portrait art takes away so much. But, at least it's not one of those pr0n RPGmaker games that seem to be popping up everywhere. I like how the game doesn't shy away from the WW2 backdrop we see in a lot of these games. Great nations soon after a massive war, one of them breaks away to take over. Rise of the THIRD power. Power = Empire = Reich. I also like the trend (at least in this and Crystal Project) towards the FF10 combat style. Messing with turn order and having debuffs that actually work is great.
Those portraits are so bad lol
yes the portraits are just awfully ugly, there should be an option to disable them at least
Man, that character portrait art is ugly as sin. No art would be waaaaay better, less distracting and more in line with the classic 16-bit aesthetic.
Personally i like it. It does not look professionally made (AA/AAA) level but it doesn’t look outright ugly
Funny I just started playing this. I don't like all of the character art but the writing and combat seems really solid so far.
I wouldn't call your misgivings "petty." Honestly the character portraits are the reason I haven't bought the game, I love RPGs for the story and I know those portraits would take me right out the experience everytime.
Gotta be honest with the comments here…do you WANT rpgs to not show the creators artistic sensibilities warts and all? Because saying you don’t even want to see the character portaits will definitely reduce it and make it look like a dime a dozen indie jrpgs out there.
While I personally dislike the style of the faces, I think it's more that it was an odd choice to make them HD vector drawings in an otherwise entirely pixelated game.
The thing is, a lot of these indie RPG games would be much more enjoyable visually if they just would not do the animated character portraits with the dialogue. I mean, Final Fantasy 6 doesn't do this nor does Chrono Trigger. I mean, jeez, what's the point of having the pixel characters if they're just gonna do that.
True, the character portraits stuck out like a sore thumb for me too. The rest of the pixel art is amazing, specially liked the animation.
anime trash portrait art, but whatever
I followed the development of this game for a few years, since I played Ara Fell and then joined Stegosoft's Discord channel. I agree, the portraits are awful! But that's my only criticism, everything else is good or great.
The Character Portraits are completely fine, I don't See what's ugly about them