GEE Indian came out in 1913 with 8 Valve Engine. Good job HD, all the investment you been putting into those Chinese Factory's that make your apparel have done a fine job of fabricating all your parts for your assembled in America bikes.
I would like to see the gas flap door on the touring models turned around so it flips ahead instead of back so it is easier to fill your gas tank without the gas flap door being in the way.
I do have one question. What makes it a financial advantage to ship the parts to York for assembly, rather than finish the bike right there in Milwaukee?
the twin cam was a excellent platform as was the evolution. maybe this new engine will be good too. I don't know why they couldn't just fix the problems of the twin cam it was a excellent base
I have owed 40-50 Harley's, flat head, pan heads, shovels, evos, sportsters. This sounds crazy but the last ten years I have been riding rice burners because I like to go fast sometimes. Have you considered building a fast bike?
I wanted to buy me a new HD, but i know some new vehicle customer have problems with their bikes, especially the engine/primary and with corrosion. All these things will not let the eagle fly forever ...
I ride a 2014 street glide and love it but the new ultra limited is really picking at my brain and my heart really want to buy one but fortunately I can afford it at this moments unless I can convince my wife sell more blood !!!
Ya right im glad harley is trying to update the engine and all but they have had alot of time do so and really never tried to address the fatal flaws in them for all the years they held sway in market. The thunder stroke 111 by Indian is a masterpiece and now that harley has real competition again and sales are dipping they are trying to throw a moderately updated engine onto the market and say "hey look what we did". Polaris did i right by buying the brand and designing a power plant from the ground up and giving people a motorcycle that not going to have planned breakdown at 5000 miles. I think this is a case of to0 little too late. If harley truly wants to hold the market in the yrs to come they need to rethink who they are and how they got there and not just say o well we are the brand everyone knows sell more Tshirts no body will want a bike that never breaks down so they can look cool working on it in the driveway everyday instead of riding it how will indian sell all the tshirts leather garbage and other crap if their bikes dont break down and they dont have to vist the dealership every week
Tony Vasconcelos im talking about cam chain tensioners that are made with rubber boots that have no place inside of any machine and the fact that they do not tell you that if they are not replaced then they will fail im talking about the fact that almost every family member i have with one needs a heat shield for there leg. I could also talk about the fact that the cylinder heads are not offset for a bike that relies on air cooling of them!!! or the fact they hold only a couple quarts of oil im just saying they could have done a better job of holding the market with quality not just "o well we are the only american cruisers out there" thats why indian is going to retake the market
+jay fed Jay but everyone knows that Harley isn't the best engine ... I know that and I wish that I couldn't of seat in traffic without worry yes BUT even with all the flaws that you are mentioning they are still the bike that people like You see what you fail to see is that no always the best bike is the winner .... With that said I love competition ...because if Indian or victory comes out with better bikes Harley has no choice but to make something better and that's the beauty of open markets ....now Harley has to come out with better stuff ...I really don't see them overtaking them but better for us he consumers now we have more choices I am sticking with my Harley but I wouldn't mind and Indian at all. As long it's American I am ok
Harley Davidson works very hard to produce high quality, modern, and attractive products. The Milwaukee eight is another example of this. As I was watching this video, I thought to myself, let's see how long it takes until people make demeaning and obnoxious remarks, my question was quickly answered. It's very easy to make sarcastic one liners. To these people I ask, what have you produced, what qualifies you to nit pick. Have you established a company that has showed tremendous resilience and tenacity for the last 113 years and has a worldwide fan base with the most loyal customers of any brand? Until you have accomplished anything of significance, keep your mouth shut.
What qualifies most buyers like myself is precisely that, I am the consumer who pays a s**t ton of money for their bikes and I want it to perform better than their cheaper competitor, Japanese motorcycles. We want a quality product that doesn't fall flat on its face during the torque curve when out riding. HD is not 100% American made and over charges their customers for an outdated engine design. Victory and Indian have Harley beat by several miles in terms of performance, handling, and reliability.
Instead of building a new engine, how about fixing the shi%ty cranks, install Timken bearings again? There are a lot of improvements that Harley should be doing. In memory of Harley-Davidson Motor CO. 1903-1999 Died From Greed.
Well the new engine should have that fix It's all capitalism man it's better for them to make you buy a brand new bike than to fix the one you already have ... If they fix it to perfection you will die with your bike and they don't want that,,, they want you to go and spend money Ina new one.... Me ,,, I'll keep my 09 Harley for now.
I agree with you, Freddy Grey. Harley Davidson always makes a bigger engine to fix the current, existing motor's problems. These issues are overheating, shaking like a freight train, and performance characteristics falling flat on its nose. Their bikes' torque and horsepower drops dramatically on a dyno like a curved pattern, downward.
Highest quality products for your customers???? .... yeah right, like cheap pressed-together cranks, compensators that don't last and cheap chinese wheel bearings that you must change almost every time you mount new rubber and don't forget the endless recalls. I think you guys traded high quality for high profits in your pockets a long time ago. So how many recalls will you have on these new batch of clutches? Wow, 2 plug, 4-valve technology with (only partial) half-assed liquid cooling .... welcome to yesterday! ... that has been around for decades in other bikes that have fully liquid cooled engines. I guess you're saving a FULL liquid cooled engine for ten years from now so you can debut another "new" engine?
You can keep your hot (overheating), violent shaking, and outdated bike. While, the rest of us will be sitting nice and cool at stop lights with our liquid-cooled; performance oriented motorcycles. Most Harley riders, at least when I had my Dyna Sport Bob, were assholes to other non-harley riders simply because they were on a bike that they did not like. Btw, my bike came with a stock 96ci engine.
Jared, why doesn't HD offer their new Milwaukee-Eight 114 (114 cubic inches, or 1,870cc) in the Breakout model or any other series that Harley produces? I don't get it. You want bragging rights from a-z then you offer up your best/latest. GM is doing it via their new Camaro. Going toe-to-toe HP-wise with their fixture, Vette, line-up.
I don't get some people ..I don't see videos of sports bikes ...ever... Why if you hate Harley do you waste time watching anything that has to do with Harley??? Unless you just a troll ....
+Mal Reynolds Dude I hear you... But is capitalism it's the rule they are in it to make money .. If they were making perfect engines people wouldn't buy new bikes nothing last that's how they keep you buying their product .. I like Harley I like the sound I like their bikes ... I think Indian has better looking bikes ( although I think the softail are looking sick) but I like Harley .. Either way I'll say buy whatever you want BUT if could buy American doesn't matter what just buy American and ride ...
+Mal Reynolds Well I don't know about cheaper than Harley I've seen Indian prices up pretty much with high end Harley but yeah I would love the black horse that's a gorgeous bike .... Oh also the victory they coming out with some really really sick bikes I saw one today oh my gosh beautiful bike it's called the magnum ... Let me tell you that's a mean looking bike
high tech and precision, high tech and precision, highest quality. ha. where's my carbon fiber, stainless steel, magnesium, titanium. Where's my high red line ( oh i have to buy that from S&S) engine balancer engineered to be less effective and cause vibrations. Still want one :|
why is Harley Davidson always embarrassed to publish horsepower and torque specs, this new motor is great but you never hear about the horsepower and torque specs
+in shape wit ape fitness Ok but where can I find that info I hear you when you say it's official but it has to be written somewhere right? And when you say the "turners" you mean the fuel management???? Or the dyno tuning???? Is that a nationwide change or is it california market?
+in shape wit ape fitness Cmon man help me out It sound it like a open fact now you telling me that you are not sure??? What is it ??? Is it performance upgrade from factory? Because screaming eagle still online and you can order upgrades.... So you have to be clear on what exactly you talking about .... What fined did they pay? And why would they pay a fined?
Hello fellows my favorite is a 1950 FL rigid dog leg frame built it myself sandblasted the frame took care of the hairline cracks stress relief the frame squirted Emron urethane dark rich blue metallic stark six over Springer cut the down tubes of another sprayer add that to mine 6 inches over stock front rocker edit an inch and a half the ride was fabulous no High speed wobble design my own seat with Sissy bar edit fishtails blue Blue Chrome everywhere custom made chain guard out of brass added a brass bib between the tanks carburetor mount brass high-rise manifold 3 inches on my T manifold with a Bendix carb high speed adjustment needle fabricated a thumb lever for my retard and advance my distributor Hallcraft spool on my 21 inch Avon speed master front tire mounted on my springer bracket to hold my hand grenade blue chrome, 22 inch ape hangers customize my clutch do I have Fiber fiber plate to a full plate transmission sprocket 24 tooth primary phase 3 Belt Dr. turn off the chain Oiler and never had any issues with my scooter 22 years with me, replace the pushrods with solid ones that stupid plunger on top of the pushrods Factory sucked if your push rods are out of adjustment that plunger falls between your rocker arms also made custom rocker arms the arms were bolted on not one piece
Part two of my comment only did a valve job once in my kitchen floor turn the oven on about 500° for about an hour and a half my valve guides in the freezer made it inserting tool out of a diesel valve guide had my wife hand them to me they were numbered send bag on the floor burlap folded sacs with my mallet I said one she grabbed one and served it as for number two inserted it hand lab The valves to the seats fresh rooms put it all back together again ran fine who needs to pay for a mechanic not me now you know what I did and how I did it right now on the last leg of finishing my hot rod 1940 Ford deluxe coupe I’m doing all the work myself as usual there at his fellows, 🕶
My last comment My engine oil 60 weight Airplane Engine oil fabricated power steering cooler from an automobile cut the barb’s off soldered number 6A AN fittings stainless braided throughout the bike no hose clamps, enough said.🕶
Looks like a great job! Hopefully, this will enable Harley to stay in-business for a couple of our future generations. I want one. Long Live Harley!!!
We are in 2016 and the video is 480p !?! WTF ?
your mom can
Vitor Reale 😂😂
this is brutal
I hope they did a better job on the engine than they did on this video.
GEE Indian came out in 1913 with 8 Valve Engine. Good job HD, all the investment you been putting into those Chinese Factory's that make your apparel have done a fine job of fabricating all your parts for your assembled in America bikes.
I own two Harley's and the stock. Keep up the good work!
I would like to see the gas flap door on the touring models turned around so it flips ahead instead of back so it is easier to fill your gas tank without the gas flap door being in the way.
Get a video production crew that knows what to do and your videos may be as good as your bikes.
I love ur all New 16 breakout!!!! it's basically a BADASS version With a twist or the night rod muscle! and vrod muscle!
know WTF you're talking about before you post BS !
nice sir m, finally 8 valve
Great show for the layman
I just bought a 2015 Limited. Gotta get some use out of it before I get a new Bike...Most likely a CVO Limited.
I know 1 thing HD is having problems with the milwaukee -eight ,oil going from transmission to primary,not goodit happened with a brand new CVO
I do have one question. What makes it a financial advantage to ship the parts to York for assembly, rather than finish the bike right there in Milwaukee?
Dedicated engine assembly plant. York literally does everything else down to stamping the sheet metal and forming the plastic and fiberglass parts.
the twin cam was a excellent platform as was the evolution. maybe this new engine will be good too. I don't know why they couldn't just fix the problems of the twin cam it was a excellent base
8 valves, 4 valves per cylinder had been common since the eighties. Now if it was liquid cooled Harley would be in the eighties technology
I have owed 40-50 Harley's, flat head, pan heads, shovels, evos, sportsters. This sounds crazy but the last ten years I have been riding rice burners because I like to go fast sometimes. Have you considered building a fast bike?
So luckily this engine don't need a outlawed super tuner 😁😁
I wanted to buy me a new HD, but i know some new vehicle customer have problems with their bikes, especially the engine/primary and with corrosion. All these things will not let the eagle fly forever ...
HD - makes a new engine - puts it exclusively on the most expensive line they have... sure that will get you more sales... not!
Can you pre-load the forks? compression and dive? ..
I ride a 2014 street glide and love it but the new ultra limited is really picking at my brain and my heart really want to buy one but fortunately I can afford it at this moments unless I can convince my wife sell more blood !!!
WTF why are the case studs not covered!? scratching pistons is a big no no. it's one of the most taught things in any engine building.
Ya right im glad harley is trying to update the engine and all but they have had alot of time do so and really never tried to address the fatal flaws in them for all the years they held sway in market. The thunder stroke 111 by Indian is a masterpiece and now that harley has real competition again and sales are dipping they are trying to throw a moderately updated engine onto the market and say "hey look what we did". Polaris did i right by buying the brand and designing a power plant from the ground up and giving people a motorcycle that not going to have planned breakdown at 5000 miles. I think this is a case of to0 little too late. If harley truly wants to hold the market in the yrs to come they need to rethink who they are and how they got there and not just say o well we are the brand everyone knows sell more Tshirts no body will want a bike that never breaks down so they can look cool working on it in the driveway everyday instead of riding it how will indian sell all the tshirts leather garbage and other crap if their bikes dont break down and they dont have to vist the dealership every week
Tony Vasconcelos im talking about cam chain tensioners that are made with rubber boots that have no place inside of any machine and the fact that they do not tell you that if they are not replaced then they will fail im talking about the fact that almost every family member i have with one needs a heat shield for there leg. I could also talk about the fact that the cylinder heads are not offset for a bike that relies on air cooling of them!!! or the fact they hold only a couple quarts of oil im just saying they could have done a better job of holding the market with quality not just "o well we are the only american cruisers out there" thats why indian is going to retake the market
+jay fed
Jay but everyone knows that Harley isn't the best engine ... I know that and I wish that I couldn't of seat in traffic without worry yes BUT even with all the flaws that you are mentioning they are still the bike that people like
You see what you fail to see is that no always the best bike is the winner ....
With that said I love competition ...because if Indian or victory comes out with better bikes Harley has no choice but to make something better and that's the beauty of open markets ....now Harley has to come out with better stuff ...I really don't see them overtaking them but better for us he consumers now we have more choices I am sticking with my Harley but I wouldn't mind and Indian at all. As long it's American I am ok
like we need 8 valves on an old v 2 motor? please whats next 2 cams? effen Harley the same old story, should have kept my PanHead.
What size cam does the Milwaukee eight come with out of the factory?
Harley Davidson works very hard to produce high quality, modern, and attractive products. The Milwaukee eight is another example of this. As I was watching this video, I thought to myself, let's see how long it takes until people make demeaning and obnoxious remarks, my question was quickly answered. It's very easy to make sarcastic one liners. To these people I ask, what have you produced, what qualifies you to nit pick. Have you established a company that has showed tremendous resilience and tenacity for the last 113 years and has a worldwide fan base with the most loyal customers of any brand? Until you have accomplished anything of significance, keep your mouth shut.
What qualifies most buyers like myself is precisely that, I am the consumer who pays a s**t ton of money for their bikes and I want it to perform better than their cheaper competitor, Japanese motorcycles. We want a quality product that doesn't fall flat on its face during the torque curve when out riding. HD is not 100% American made and over charges their customers for an outdated engine design. Victory and Indian have Harley beat by several miles in terms of performance, handling, and reliability.
yes,yes,yes!!!!!
Pure H-D con ...and bullshit...
Instead of building a new engine, how about fixing the shi%ty cranks, install Timken bearings again? There are a lot of improvements that Harley should be doing. In memory of Harley-Davidson Motor CO. 1903-1999 Died From Greed.
Well the new engine should have that fix
It's all capitalism man it's better for them to make you buy a brand new bike than to fix the one you already have ... If they fix it to perfection you will die with your bike and they don't want that,,, they want you to go and spend money Ina new one.... Me ,,, I'll keep my 09 Harley for now.
I agree with you, Freddy Grey. Harley Davidson always makes a bigger engine to fix the current, existing motor's problems. These issues are overheating, shaking like a freight train, and performance characteristics falling flat on its nose. Their bikes' torque and horsepower drops dramatically on a dyno like a curved pattern, downward.
Highest quality products for your customers???? .... yeah right, like cheap pressed-together cranks, compensators that don't last and cheap chinese wheel bearings that you must change almost every time you mount new rubber and don't forget the endless recalls. I think you guys traded high quality for high profits in your pockets a long time ago. So how many recalls will you have on these new batch of clutches? Wow, 2 plug, 4-valve technology with (only partial) half-assed liquid cooling .... welcome to yesterday! ... that has been around for decades in other bikes that have fully liquid cooled engines. I guess you're saving a FULL liquid cooled engine for ten years from now so you can debut another "new" engine?
Radiators are for cages and ricers.
You can keep your hot (overheating), violent shaking, and outdated bike. While, the rest of us will be sitting nice and cool at stop lights with our liquid-cooled; performance oriented motorcycles. Most Harley riders, at least when I had my Dyna Sport Bob, were assholes to other non-harley riders simply because they were on a bike that they did not like. Btw, my bike came with a stock 96ci engine.
Jared, why doesn't HD offer their new Milwaukee-Eight 114 (114 cubic inches, or 1,870cc) in the Breakout model or any other series that Harley produces? I don't get it. You want bragging rights from a-z then you offer up your best/latest.
GM is doing it via their new Camaro. Going toe-to-toe HP-wise with their fixture, Vette, line-up.
yeah if it has a crank like the twin cams not buying it
it does
As a CVO owner, I would like the option to have zero vibes at idle.
then buy a goldwing lol!
If I wanted a Prius, I'd buy one !!☺
+harley62t lol!
WOW! 8 valves awesome technology..........................will be at least 1950's before anyone else catches up....Lmao...
Spoken like a true douche bag !
I don't get some people ..I don't see videos of sports bikes ...ever... Why if you hate Harley do you waste time watching anything that has to do with Harley??? Unless you just a troll ....
+Mal Reynolds
Dude I hear you... But is capitalism it's the rule they are in it to make money .. If they were making perfect engines people wouldn't buy new bikes nothing last that's how they keep you buying their product .. I like Harley I like the sound I like their bikes ... I think Indian has better looking bikes ( although I think the softail are looking sick) but I like Harley .. Either way I'll say buy whatever you want BUT if could buy American doesn't matter what just buy American and ride ...
+Mal Reynolds
Well I don't know about cheaper than Harley I've seen Indian prices up pretty much with high end Harley but yeah I would love the black horse that's a gorgeous bike .... Oh also the victory they coming out with some really really sick bikes I saw one today oh my gosh beautiful bike it's called the magnum ... Let me tell you that's a mean looking bike
Joey Votta Truth hurts some people i guess......
It's really the factory in India.
It's not a tour video is it?
Show the processes, not the people telling about it
high tech and precision, high tech and precision, highest quality.
ha. where's my carbon fiber, stainless steel, magnesium, titanium.
Where's my high red line ( oh i have to buy that from S&S)
engine balancer engineered to be less effective and cause vibrations.
Still want one :|
best bikes were built 80 yrs ago
I like the way they look. But I don't like the sound they make. Too f loud that it's annoying.
why is Harley Davidson always embarrassed to publish horsepower and torque specs, this new motor is great but you never hear about the horsepower and torque specs
107 cid 111.4 ft-lb, 114 cid 124 ft-lb. Right off of the HD website. 92.5 hp and 100.6 hp respectively. motorcycle dot com. :/
False
Plastic drive gear against aluminum gear on the oilpump...soooo lol
TheI going to make America great again?
didn't HD just pay a fine, and agree to destroy all tuners? Doesn't that crush their SE performance segment?
Send me the link on that settlement please
+Tony Vasconcelos its official no more tuners!!
+in shape wit ape fitness
Ok but where can I find that info
I hear you when you say it's official but it has to be written somewhere right? And when you say the "turners" you mean the fuel management????
Or the dyno tuning???? Is that a nationwide change or is it california market?
+franco vasconcelos I'm not sure but my wife works at the pilgrim Rd. plant and I think it's no more performance upgrades
+in shape wit ape fitness
Cmon man help me out
It sound it like a open fact now you telling me that you are not sure??? What is it ???
Is it performance upgrade from factory? Because screaming eagle still online and you can order upgrades.... So you have to be clear on what exactly you talking about .... What fined did they pay? And why would they pay a fined?
Hello fellows my favorite is a 1950 FL rigid dog leg frame built it myself sandblasted the frame took care of the hairline cracks stress relief the frame squirted Emron urethane dark rich blue metallic stark six over Springer cut the down tubes of another sprayer add that to mine 6 inches over stock front rocker edit an inch and a half the ride was fabulous no High speed wobble design my own seat with Sissy bar edit fishtails blue Blue Chrome everywhere custom made chain guard out of brass added a brass bib between the tanks carburetor mount brass high-rise manifold 3 inches on my T manifold with a Bendix carb high speed adjustment needle fabricated a thumb lever for my retard and advance my distributor Hallcraft spool on my 21 inch Avon speed master front tire mounted on my springer bracket to hold my hand grenade blue chrome, 22 inch ape hangers customize my clutch do I have Fiber fiber plate to a full plate transmission sprocket 24 tooth primary phase 3 Belt Dr. turn off the chain Oiler and never had any issues with my scooter 22 years with me, replace the pushrods with solid ones that stupid plunger on top of the pushrods Factory sucked if your push rods are out of adjustment that plunger falls between your rocker arms also made custom rocker arms the arms were bolted on not one piece
Part two of my comment only did a valve job once in my kitchen floor turn the oven on about 500° for about an hour and a half my valve guides in the freezer made it inserting tool out of a diesel valve guide had my wife hand them to me they were numbered send bag on the floor burlap folded sacs with my mallet I said one she grabbed one and served it as for number two inserted it hand lab The valves to the seats fresh rooms put it all back together again ran fine who needs to pay for a mechanic not me now you know what I did and how I did it right now on the last leg of finishing my hot rod 1940 Ford deluxe coupe I’m doing all the work myself as usual there at his fellows, 🕶
Police road king flhp tops
8:27 Ronaldinho disfarçado de gringo, tá até mais gordo o bruxo.
The real reason they call it the Milwaukee 8 is because it takes 8 Indians to do the job of 1 American.
My last comment My engine oil 60 weight Airplane Engine oil fabricated power steering cooler from an automobile cut the barb’s off soldered number 6A AN fittings stainless braided throughout the bike no hose clamps, enough said.🕶
1997 Heritage Softail 80 cu.in. Evolution......not the fastest...not the latest ....but who cares...
DROOL!!!!!!!!!!
Indian fan 🇺🇸😎 think they built better engines
Lol it's not an Indian. Its junk ass Polaris!!!!!
Wow! What a horrible video. I seen a few robots. Huge disappointment
Harley service departments sucks! Need better trained technicians, and better customer service!!
Over priced trash!
Twin cam motor is junk that’s y they stopped building it👎🏻