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Melian the Maia - Epic Character History
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- Melian the Maia was an instrumental figure of the First Age of Tolkien’s Middle-earth, and she was a light amidst much darkness in Beleriand. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts about Melian in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Melian the Maia is one of my favourite characters in the Silmarillion. Something about her seems so mystic, besides of course the fact that she is basically an angel older than Arda itself
I imagine that first conversation between Cirdan and Melian:
Cirdan: “Yeah, I spent a really long time looking for Thingol and missed my chance to go to Valinor because of it. I wonder where he was all of that time.”
Melian: “Umm...”
Yeah that would have been awkward conversation indeed.
Cirdan basically ran the Arda ferry, so I suspect he went there.
He accomplished many great deeds in Middle Earth ere he finally made that journy to the West, who can say how the world would have been changed if he had never gone looking for his Lord?
I'd rather imagine she answers in the singsongy tone of Bill Wurtz: Meeeee~
CLAPPIN CHEEKS!
Tolkien never wrote about Melian and Thingol beyond the Fall of Doriath, but given that only Feanor and Finwe were specifically mentioned as not receiving a new body as long as Arda endures, we can assume that Thingol eventually left Mandos and was reunited with Melian. The chief sadness of their tale comes from the loss of their daugther at least until the end of the World - of Luthien, the greatest elf and the one through which a divine strain, older than the World itself, entered into the lineages of Elves and Men.
"Lúthien went to Menegroth and healed the winter of Thingol with the touch of her hand. But Melian looked in her eyes and read the doom that was written there, and turned away; for she knew that a parting beyond the end of the world had come between them, and no grief of loss has been heavier than the grief of Melian the Maia in that hour."
-The Silmarillion
I like to imagine that Thingol stayed with his friend Finwë.
You are a scholar, and a gentleman.
I knew about Feanor.... But how do you know about Finwe not beeing reincarnated?
@@Nebedikte24 There's a story about Finwe's deeds after Morgoth killed him, included in Volume 10 of the History of Middle-earth.
Essentially, Finwe agrees to stay in Mandos forever so that Miriel can come back to life. Miriel then becomes a handmaiden to Vaire and stays with her, weaving tapestries that tell the history of the Noldor.
@@SNWWRNNG thank you for your enlightning answer 😁😇
Oh Elu Thingol, the luckiest elf, if not creature of all Middle Earth.
Alas, he had everything, and yet let greed and arrogance blind him to not see the wisdom and council of his love, and lives and a kingdom that might have survived until all elves diminished into the West were forfeit and wasted. 😢😢
May that be a lesson for us all.
Imagen this, Thingol gives the Silmaril to Feanor's sons, and then comes the time of Earendil, no silmaril, no Entrance to Valinor, No Valar host, and darkness rules.
Thingol, one of the Firstborn of Eru, Knew the thing that Melian the Maia did not, End and Doom are Part of the First song of the Ainur, We all must Perish, We all must meet our end.
And Thus Thingol SAVED middle-earth, and gave us the Bloodline of the Great Kings, and Elven Healers.
Thank Thingol for his wisdom, wisdom to know the Plan of Eru, That all must Perish, Even the Halls and caverns of Mighty Doriath.
@@abalogan interesting theory indeed, however I don’t think it would have gone that way. Thingol and the others from his people weren’t under the curse of Mandos and the Valar invitation to the immortal lands still stood for them. And they had a Mayar on their side, which would bridge even better Middle Earth to Valinor. In fact, help could have been sought earlier had Doriath endured. Haha it’s all theories, it’s interesting to explore
@@tommykawaii "help could have been sought earlier had Doriath endured" What? Both Círdan AND Gil-Galad sent ships to Valinor, Both failed in all their attempts. EVERYTHING must end, even Arda and Ea, that is the point, the halls of Mandos are for all, and even they will perish before the second song, THAT is my point.
@@abalogan it doesn’t mean Doriath would fail too. Melian returned to Valinor after Thingol died, why couldn’t she go to seek help, would Doriath be under imminent threat from Morgoth? They were the cousins of the Teleri from Aqualonde, the invite from the Valar still stood for them. Yes, things would eventually come to an end, but it could have been a different end for that kingdom, a less sad one.
@@tommykawaii Melian is a wild card, i will give you this, BUT Círdan is Thingol's kin, He is the one who searched for him the most when he and Melian disappeared, he is ether his Thingol's Brother, or Nephew or cousin, so the same relation to the Teleri, still no help, The answer was "The road to the west is closed" but Melian is a wild card, she might have gotten help, not sure.
Truly yoystan is a dear gift, one shared between us all. We rejoice in the light you bring us, and dance in the music of your voice
Amen! Well said.
I can hear singing in the darkness...
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Thingol and his wife Melian are my favorite characters in Tolkien's fantasy world. Elwë, as Tolkien described him, was "the mightiest of the Eldar save Fëanor only", the wise and mighty king who ruled peacefully for millennia, uniting all Elves in single culture. It's very unfortunate that Thingol's success clouded his judgement and he became arrogant and reckless. But there is a lesson in Elwë's story - the highest of us could fall deepest. Melkor, the angelic being, was the most powerful of the Ainur, and like Lucifer who was the most powerful of all angels, Melkor fell deepest, into the hell. The same goes for Fëanor. As for the Elwë's wife, the gift of Melian the Maia to Elves and Men is a gift of angelic magic through her blood. Magic is a symbol for two forms of creativity. The first one is the creativity of the imagination - to tell stories and create worlds. The other is the creativity of great leadership - to uplift humanity to be more angelic in this world (that's Aragorn in his best, who, along with his wife Arwen, also was descendant of Thingol and Melian).
Absolutely great comment! Loved the part about "angelic magic." Thank you!
This was great. I never really realized that some of the descendants of Melian would be kings of Numenor and so Aragorn too until this video. Ofcourse!!
Exactly, Aragorn has the blood of not only the three houses of the Edain but also has Eldarin and Maia ancestry as well.
She sounds truly enchanting. Even the vibe of this video was charming considering the sad ending. Great job as always
"They say a sorceress lives in these woods; and elf witch. All who look upon her fall under spell"
One of my fav characters 😍
Shes so mysterious and strange; very little dialogue in the books compared to other characters but man when she speaks u can tell theres 10 other things going on in her mind.
Clearly a strong female character for ages right here 😊
You had me at LEMBAS BREAD
I think it's amazing to think that Gandalf in his youth as Olorin actually knew Melian when they both resided in the gardens of Lorien on the shores of lake Lorellin in Valinor. Melian is a fascinating character in Tolkien's world.
Olorin /Mithrandir/Gandalf served Manwe and Nienna, the wisest of the Valar, and so he was wisest of the Istari, who themselves are Maia, servants of the Valar. So when he returned at the end of LOTR, he was really going home. Imagine the conversations he might have with Melian in the halls of Mandos after the changing of the world.
Youth implies either of them age. I'm definitely all for the garden gossip swapping though.
@@SophiaAstatine Well in their earlier years we'll say. You're right the Ainur don't age but just counting time here. Haha yes I'm sure they did gab.
Awesome video as always! :D
Thanks gentlemen!
@@MenoftheWest what if the Easterlings and Haradrim turned against Sauron
oh damn my two fave Middle Earth more channels in the same place? love it
The whole story of Melian, Thingol, Luthien, and Beren is really beautiful in the grand scheme of things. Melian and Thingol are a union of two of Iluvatar's most precious creations, ainur and elves. Beren and Luthien add men into that union. Iluvatar's three most precious creations united into one bloodline, and it would be that bloodline that would unite the men of Middle-Earth and expel the wicked creations of Melkor and Sauron.
Thingol and Melian are my favorite characters in Tolkien's work. I always love to read that chapter from the Silmarilion, when they met in Nan Elmoth. It is the shortest chapter of the Silmarilion, but my most favorite one. I like how Elwë gave up everything just to be with his love. Some of the Teleri chose to stay with them, but this was their choice, Thingol never forced them to do so. Melian is really the greatest of the Maia. She is very wisdom, compassionate and gentle.
There were three unions between Elves and Men: Luthien and Beren, Idril and Tuor, and Arwen and Aragorn. But Tolkien wrote of only ONE union between an immortal and one of the Divine. That was Thingol and Melian.
I have read Tolkien's books many times, but I don't know whether it is magic of his writing or your amazing voice that makes me watch your videos again and again.
I have to say of all the music to accompany your videos this was 100% spot on. Well done! In addition Melian is among my favorite characters and it seems too often is glossed over along with her daughter.
You know you are good at what you do when you can so seamlessly weave the word "thither" into your commentary...thank you for all that you do for the community, as always: you are a light in these uncertain times.
I love near the closing when you speak of how these wonderful stories can impact our lives today outside of Middle Earth.
Melian the Maia aka Gandalf's First Age Counter Part...Both did so much in just a few Ages!!!
Thanks, Mellon for the Info of the most famous *maybe?* Mother in Middle Earth...
Until Sauron VS Elves Vol 1 (2nd Age Version) Marion Baggins Out!!!
You’re so wholesome, I love it
Great video! I really like your emphasis on the lasting impact Melian had on Middle Earth. I've always felt kinda sad at her departure but now see how much value she continued to have.
Thanks for doing this one. Melian was always a character that stood out in my mind in the sillmerillion. So, happy to know more about her
She is my favorite character of the Silmarillion, thank you Men of the West! That was lovely.
Oh,Yoiston (I hope I spelled that right😄) I think it was providence I stumbled upon the video today. Since my grandad died, I've been just lost. It was the first big death in the family in quite a while and I feel like I've been just floating through life for the last 6 months, not progressing, not bettering myself, not...living. This video just reminded me, I HAVE to get up, I must move forward. Not to do so would be to disgrace my grandad's memory and I won't do that. Thanks, Yoiston! You always seem to help me with a video whenever I need one.
I’m sorry to hear about your grandad, my friend. Think of him and of the good times you had together, and never give up on hope and happiness! Smile for the memory of him, and push forward! That’s all any of us can ever do. I’m sorry again for your loss. ❤️
@@MenoftheWest I will think of him and everything we had together. Thank you again. You gave me encouragement earlier this year and I thank you for doing it again. Love and peace, my friend! I'll keep walking forward along side you.
Thank you for doing this video. Melian is one of the most interesting and meaningful characters.
Love your content!
It does end with sadness but look on the bright side,....... it’s NOT “Twilight” lol 😆
Words of Wisdom my friend!
Lmao! Thank God!
"Always look on the bright side of life" *whistle*
Melian - the great grandmother of the Numenoreans and the High Kings and Lords of Men and Elves. Her bloodline has the most continuity in ME.
Melian is one of my favourite characters, thank you!! 😊
The mother of Luthien Tenuviel, the fairest of all Children of Illuvitar 😍😚
Another wonderful video Yoysten! Very informative and I love hearing about Melian she was definitely a very interesting character.
So basically Melian retired.
All the other Maia do their work in Valinor, so it's more like she came out of retirement and stumbled back into the office.
I don't know how you do it sir, but, its like you top yourself with each new video. What a beautiful story. I love that your able to recognize the sentiment and importance of some aspects of this lore we love so much. It shows your character. Never change!
Thank you for your care and for your passion.
It's so funny, I watched your revamp of your Beren and Luthien videos this morning, and thought to myself that I want to know more of Melian. How bout dat?!
You know it's kinda awesome to think that this Maia is one of Aragorn's ancestors 🥲
I mean... wouldn't she reunite with Thingol in Valinor?
Could you do "What if Thingol didn't ask for a silmaril". It's because of him asking for it that his fate was intertwined with that of the doom of Mandos and thus he died. I would wonder what would happen if Thingol survived to the 2nd age
Exactly. He lost all respect in my eyes when he sent Beren to get a Silmaril. Like, why on earth would you mess with that?! And then when Melian told him to give back the Silmaril to Fëanor's sons, again he made a stupid choice. That's why he had to die. Otherwise a really interesting character.
Imagen this, Thingol does not ask of the Silmaril OR gives it to Feanor's sons, and then comes the time of Earendil, no silmaril, no Entrance to Valinor, No Valar host, and darkness rules.
Thingol, one of the Firstborn of Eru, Knew the thing that Melian the Maia did not, End and Doom are Part of the First song of the Ainur, We all must Perish, We all must meet our end.
And Thus Thingol SAVED middle-earth, and gave us the Bloodline of the Great Kings, and Elven Healers.
Thank Thingol for his wisdom, wisdom to know the Plan of Eru, That all must Perish, Even the Halls and caverns of Mighty Doriath.
Exactly! That is how the great fall. It's another example of Tolkien showing how power corrupts. Thingol became the victim of his own ego.
If he survived the first age, he would most likely lead most of the surviving Sindar to Valinor. Even without the 2nd kinslaying, the 10 year War of Wrath would have destroyed the kingdom of Doriath as it did most of Beleriand. Thingols had ruled too long to accept a lesser land to govern as his own. He would most likely join the majority of the surviving 1st age elves and travel back to Valinor
As I recall from my reading of the Silmarilion dwarves were finding it difficult to return to their mountain homes and begged for passage through Doriath in exchange for creating Menegroth which meant Kingdom of a thousand caves.. a beautiful kingdom
Love at first sight that lasted years yet felt like a moment.
"hey the literal gods told us to go to the west, how come we're still on this side of the world?"
"well... in my defence, she was really pretty and she can sing and everything!"
"...right..."
Great video. I had no idea Melian was that powerful
I always come to your channel! I love your information about the creations of Mr.Tolkien
She’s my most favourite character. Probably only after Eru Illuvatar.
Beautifully construed Mellon! Gotta applaud your thoughts to create brilliant contents 😍👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍 Keep it up..
Great video!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thank you very very much I have been wondering about this character for years and years
I like the way you are performing videos, tone of your voice and music in the back!
Amazing video yoystan!
What a great world Tolkien created. The first age is by far my favorite. Thank you for your work. I'll be sure to join the paetron before the end of the year.
Thank you, my friend! I really appreciate it!
That was a beautiful narrative for trying times. Great writing on this!
Nice work dude thanks
Loved the video and your insights! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Ema!
So good, thanks for this
You are one of my favourites! ❤
And Melian in time would be reunited with Thingol because he would likely eventually be released from the Halls of Mandos and take corporeal form again. And the Valar were told that in the 2nd great song, after the end of Arda & Ea, that the spirits of Man would join with the Ainur (Valar & Mair) in that singing. So Melian would see her daughter again after all the ages of the world were spent.
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Great storytelling and art!
Great video I love this video story of love between a Maiar and a elf just like Aragorn and Arwen both couples marrying higher beings
Thank you for the heart may we stand men of the west
how much of Melian's abilities were passed along to Elrond? I'm thinking particularly of healing and foresight.
Excellent, as always. Thanks.
I would love a vid on thingol. He was very interesting to me
My favorite female character in Tolkien lore. I named my daughter after her, because she too is a gift of love.
dear yoystan, could you do a video about female dwarfs? that would be great!
i stumbled over your channel a few weeks ago and your videos really help me through this tough time I'm going through at the moment. thank you very much!
Thanks for this video. I have always loved Melian with her girdle protecting the land of Doriath, and Galadriel who did basically the same in Lothlorien It appeals to me because i have always felt the same as them, sad about the worlds swift changes and the loss of so many places of beauty and fond memory. I can deeply empathise with their wish to make their loved places undying. Places where time flows, but doesnt erode. Where the leaves wave in the wind but never fall.
Also, i wonder about something,, since we are on the topic of beings created directly by Eru,... i have always wondered if Tolkien ever wrote anything about the 'original elves' Because Elves have children, like men. But originally the first elves 'awakened' in Cuivenen. Those were not born, but made by Eru. I wonder if they were special in any way, or if they were held in special regard by later elves, and if any remained alive and in middle earth throughout the ages. i cznt remember ever having found anything about that.
I believe Ingwe, Finwe and Elwe (later known as Thingol) were among the original elves who awoke in Cuivenen. The Vala Orome chose them and brought them to Valinor as the three ambassadors that Yoystan mentions. They all became kings/leaders of their people. Ingwe was the king of the Vanyar elves. Finwe was king of the Noldor elves. Olwe the brother of Elwe/Thingol became king of the Teleri elves in Valinor. Thingol was of course the king of Doriath. It’s also possible that Cirdan is one of the original elves as well. I’m sure they would definitely be revered by most of the later elves.
@@dendrocerulean5908 Thanks for your reply :) Tolkien isnt very clear about it as far as i know. He does say that Orome took them to Valinor, but never how many 'originals' were left among them at that time.
But it stands to reason that some were and they would probably rise to the top of the hierarchy. as elves seem to get more powerful with age., and being personally made by Eru should count for something too, if the Nol;dor became more powerful just by going to Aman and looking at the light of the trees.
Cìrdan would make sense, he is described as one of the oldest, so old he even grows a beard, and how could he be one of the oldest if he were not from Cuivenen (unless none or very few of the originals remained ofc and he was one of the first generations born)
Since not all of the elves went with Orome it could be that some of the ones that reamined in middle earth were originals too. Though we could wonder how many would still be left after the countless years of the early ages and the many wars that middle saw. It stands to reason that most that stayed in middle earth were either killed or got tired and sailed west.
Still it is mind boggling to think about living for so long. Imagine, being one of the earliest homo sapiens, having been there when fire and cooking were invented, how flint tools were developed and having met neanderthals in person, knowing all of prehistory and seeing even the pyramids of egypt as something relatively recent. I could imagine getting tired and starting to think about sailing west.
A very extremely great video as always Men of the West.
Just wanna say I've been a fan for years bud and this is an amazing channel. I have an idea for you. How about a top 10 or five greatest men video of all time in the history of arda. Then you could do like a top 10 women category then elves then dwarves and so on. Even if its just your opinion it will still be fun to have the debate ☺
She IS very cute and most vain. Working with Vaire she weaves details in and others out. Nothing would be remembered of her unfiltered. Valar instagram. Vaire would not comprehend minor descriptive elements in the great tapestry quite as well as Melian herself.. having lived through Middle-Earth and being ages old apprentice of Dream Lord as well. So she gets to hide herself there in one glorious display. Most cute and innocent fun.
For all her mystery... a magical art like hers is a talent in covering whole realms with invisibility cloaks. Very smart and beautifully done.
Why should wisdom be so Remarkable ? She's a maia. Same goes for beauty etc. She's a maia. All of them are what they are as much as she is what she is. (I do love her most of all. She's the best she's got _Style_ and an amazing lover too) When Vaire brings out the tapestry you'll get to compare.
When there is no mystery there is no need for Mystery Lady.
She's not a mystery lady and I pray all of you with your proud cocks if you love her for that she'll weave you out and how nice then to be finally mysterious with her... on the dawn of that great revealing no one is interested in mysteries at all.
With much love. Just.. imho. Hmm.
Thingol really punched up with Melian.
These videos make my eyes water
Dude legitimately got to love and make baby with an angel!
You do realize that Meilan would have been reunited with Thingol since he would have been reborn in Valinor after his time in the halls of Mandos? She undoubtedly knew this. She didn’t tarry in middle earth for his loss, but to ponder what other good she might yet do there, before returning to him.
🧡 she is the Heart of Gold.
Queen Melian
Beren and Luthien are amongst my all-time favorite tales in middle earth
Hello Yoysten! In the spirit of Halloween, I would like to recommend a new fan theory idea. What if Utumno wasn't razed completely, and was able to be rebuilt in the first age. How would the wars of the jewels and wrath have played out if Udun had risen once again? Happy Halloween 🎃
Is this heritage why Legolas saw a fiery crown amongst other things appear on Arragorn as he spoke with the Riders of Rohan for the first time?
Lucky elf for being married to a deity.
This was an interesting video!
That story connected a few lose ends I didn't know existed. But the first age is definately clearer now
We are about to become parents, and my wife and I decided that our daughter will be called Melian. ❤
can you please do more who would win vids
This is where real Tolkien fans come together.
Love is love is love is love.
an interesting video this is
Great video youstan but when is the next timeline of arda video coming out
Hey Men of the West I was wondering if you could make a video explaining the relationship of Frodo and Aragorn. I haven’t read the books and have gotten about halfway through The Hobbit and noticed from the movie the strangeness around Frodo’s relationship with Aragorn.
Y you know the importance. We are the ancient ones that sing
Thingol had some of his best years in Doriath as king when he was with Melian!😍😏😇
I’ve always wondered if Melian (before the creation of Arda) actually had some conversations with Sauron (Mairon) and what were her thougts on him?!! Did she think he could turn to evil, even tough he was once a good being before Melkor corruption?
TY.
I think it was Fingolfin who had a singing enchantment dual with Morgoth..... and I wonder whether Morgoth could have been defeated by a duet of enchantment had Melian joined him on his quest.,.. maybe it was Fingon or Finrod tho.... I'd have to go back and check. Either way, they KNEW that the Noldor would never be able to defeat Morgoth by any powers they had... but with Melian? Idk... what do you think?
You're confusing Morgoth and Fingolfin's duel with Finrod and Sauron's. Morgoth and Fingolfin clashed with weapons whereas Finrod and Sauron clashed in a singing battle.
You mentioned dwarves in Doriath around 4:50 and then the poisoning of the two trees of light near 5:15. Were the dwarves “awake” during the years of the trees?
Melian and thingol are my favorite couple in the legendarium
Thank you
Feanor next? :)
What’s the difference between Maia and Maiar?