This All New ARM Based SBC With A Lot Of Power! Orange Pi 5 Plus First Look
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- The New Orange Pi 5 Plus has Up to 16GB and a Powerful8 Core ARM CPU.
Powered by the RK 3588S this is defiantly a fast Single board computer and in this video we test it out with OrangePi OS Droid to see if we can run games and emulators on this new SBC.
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small change to the details of the vid, please know that the Orange Pi 5 + has the rk3588 not the rk3588s.
can u run all the same games in an actual gaming front end like batocera or retropie and show the results from those environments
you should consider trying dietpi for these SBV videos. At least for orange and other larger players they usually have builds available and you can use their configs to set up the same software suite on every system indentically :)
Dual NIC with OpenWRT support. Nioce 👏
$150, LOL, I hope you're at least getting a $20 cut with your affiliate deal ETA, with your solid sales pitch and audience reach, you're def worth it.
I am a little curious about your opinion of the NanoPC-T6. I know you have reviewed other machines, in the NanoPC series. I know you also reviewed the latest NanoPi. It uses the full 3588, and it has both wireless and a NVME M.2 slot.
What I really want to see is the new handheld they're coming out with!
Hey ETA! May wish to update the description for the video. The OPi5+ is RK3588 based, not RK3588S. From my understanding that's why it's able to support all the higher end IO available. :)
he said it correctly in the video ... also in the description it's written "defiantly" instead of "definitely" ... maybe he does not write the description and does not re-read it ...
It is not what he said, but what he showed in the benchmarks@@pierro78
Batocera v37 came out a couple of days ago, runs beautiful now
On the Orange Pi 5 Plus?
Just a FYI,the arch version is now available on their website :)
The specs are amazing ! So great I/O options !
I wanna see:
1. Power consumption 😁😁
2. Antutu using nvme vs sdcard class A2
3. The OpenWRT
2-3 watts idle with nvme, 1.5 without. 10w max at normal usage
@@dim3nt0
Thanks 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I saw the Arch build is available for all 3 Rock 5 SKUs now.
I’ve been wanting to see this review! I’m really curious if you can use the m.2 oculink adapter and graphics card with it.
Edit - also, the Joshua Riek ubuntu image is out for these too.
because like for this comment was simply not enough
Id love to see a review of this ubuntu image. It works a lot better than the distros provided by orangepi.
… and two months later: ended up trying this myself with the same chenyang (sp) oculink 16x to 4x, same m.2 to oculink adapter, an ASUS RTX3060 (not TI), and wrote the OS (ubuntu) to orange’s 256 GB emmc module. It actually 100% works from the hardware side of things! Just not the software side unfortunately. I couldn’t get nvidia’s arm 64 driver to work, and the “additional drivers” in the apt repo didn’t want to work either. Didn’t try other distros or cards though.
@@JazzTechie genuine question, why? The CPU isn't nearly powerful enough to use this as a gaming or workstation PC so what would a 3060 do for you?
I'm so thankful for this board. 🙌🙏
Your description is wrong. This uses the RK 3588, not the slower RK 3588S.
alrighty, time to check that arch image.
I've love to see this thing running Android TV
I love raspPi alternatives although I’m not sure that I would call them like that. Even though the hardware is there, firmware/software is for the most part shit. I lost recently 3 days fighting to get HDMI to work on OrangePi 4, just to realise that the public version is bigged and nobody checked it. Then I downgraded and networking was not working on that version. It’s just a struggle to do anything with them, because the community is nowhere near the one from raspberry.
These SBCs are cool and all, but how's the GPU support on Linux? Those always seem to be forgotten
Has a mesa mainline driver working but clonky as today. On the legacy kernel also has a mesa driver (hacky one).
Panfrost has some support for it
The first thing I knew this would be great for is a router with opnsense on it, because of those dual 2.5Gb lan ports
I was thinking of a firewall computer, since you have 2 ports, or a computer for streaming locally from different tv boxes because of the HDMI input
Mine gets here tomorrow. They have Debian Bookworm (12) desktop available for download.
OrangePi is probably the second best thing you could get in terms of support, so this is cool to see. Many SBC's suffer from the fact that the kernel is ancient and drivers & BSP won't be updated....ever... I feel like OrangePi is ahead of the curve in that regard.
What would be the first in support.
I'm new to a lot of this .
From what little I know this looks like a good pick for light gaming and video streaming.
@@robertbishop9229probably the Raspberry pi itself on 1
What do you mean??? This RK3588 series all run on the same legacy kernel for every maker...
For whoever want to use mainline kernel, they don't use the official images, those are for makers that needs vpu/npu/etc to work properly. Mainline: armbian/manjaro/etc..
@@microlinux Yeah, but A. Not everything uses the RK3588 - there's many SBC"s and many SBC"s for which no up to date driver exists. B. Sure, there may be an up-to-date kernel & gfx driver for some off brand SBC, but it's not always the case it'll drop in nicely, and if it doesn't, then you have to try to fix it manually. Now if you want to jerk around with then that's fine, but not everybody does. C. There's more to it than just the kernel. The image will at the very least have the DTB's included which may not work correctly if you just take some other image for some other SBC.
When I say support I mean going to the website and downloading a modern image with a modern kernel and modern drivers. Then I also mean community support - when something breaks there's a forum or how-to's or whatever else to fix it because somebody already put in the work. With the Orange Pi you get a pretty decent shot at that. With the Raspberry Pi you get very good support, tons of info and forums about it. With some off brand no-name shit? There's tons of them for which the latest images, if you can find them, are running early 3's version of the kernel or even earlier. If something doesn't work? Figure it out yourself. And if some drivers you drag over from another SBC's image don't perform well on yours? Tough luck. It's all fine if you want to just mess around with installs, but if you want the shit to just work out of the box then support is important. And just because there's another SBC which uses the same chip as yours and has modern drivers, doesn't mean the user wants to spend time pillaging shit off of that image to [hopefully] work with their SBC.
In general, with anything in life. The less the # of people is who use something, the lower the amount of support and information about that thing there is. A commonly used configuration will typically always work out of the box. Joe Blow's SBC which "should be the same since the chip is from the same family?" Maybe not always. And maybe the user doesn't care to fix it.
ETA Prime, I hope your reviewing and doing a gameplay dmeo for emulation on the new Amazon Fire Max 11? Thanks as always for all that you do! Curious about the Pixel Tab when its out, too
Looks amazing,was thinking about some psp love 😊
Not to knock these videos or anything, but I don't care about any SBC that's several times more powerful than a Raspberry Pi if it also costs several times more. The RPi 4 is four years old now and hasn't gotten a price drop (if anything, it's more expensive due to shortages); give me something that's more powerful for the same price, and then I'll be interested
It isn't that bad, it is 3-4x faster than the Pi 4 in some regards and doesn't cost twice as much. I just got an Orange Pi 5B I am going to be testing, I got it for about $90 USD. The Pi 4 MSRP for the same 4GB is $55, so it isn't even twice as expensive. Not to mention that a Pi 4 is out of stock everywhere, and you can only get it for like $140 from people selling it used.
I do want a newer faster Raspberry Pi though, as it tends to have better software support.
@@markleaf1970 Oh, this looks interesting... they're also on sale right now. The low end 5B is only $5 off, but still. Does it have the same form factor as a RPi so I could still use one of RetroFlag's cases?
By a radxa zero it's even smaller
Let's be honest to ourselves. What is the current price for RPi 4? Not the MSRP but the price you can actually buy it? You will learn that OPi 5 is actually cheaper than that
You're just complaining for no reason. $40 performance sbc days are over. Quit batching about it. Save a little longer and play with the new ones.
Arch appears to be available now.
Very nice, thanks for the quick look. I am looking forward to working on some projects with this board. hopefully, Arch OS comes out soon.
Maybe try Tower of Fantasy?
Its very similiar to Genshin Impact but have native controller support 😊
Just ordered one. I have a pi 400 keyboard that I use for a table top arcade and very soon touch screen with orange pi
Do a video 🙏 keep me posted... I want to do Call of Duty Mobile.
This is in a handheld would be perfect.
I would love to see a Gamecube full test can you can do that. :D
Thank you for covering this!
Does it work with other power supplies, like of a MacBook for example? 5V 4A is outside of USB spec, so I wonder if it is PD-compatible.
on their documentation they say PD is not supported
Sbc's sure have come a long way since the pi3
Please mention about power usage to of these sbc's.
So why does everyone seem to want to use arch? Please explain on the video when you make it. Thanks!
They used to say it would be available with 32gb RAM but I don't think that will actually come to fruition. Probably overkill anyhow.
i might try it soon
Aww ye! The RPI 5 ki--- wait, it doesn't exist. :[
Could be interesting if there is support from Armbian, the only one that does a good server base image
There is
Ooh, I wonder if, when the ARCH linux OS is released, would the pikvm tools work on here. With that hdmi in, and 2 out, I could see this as a killer ip kvm. The hdmi input going to a local hdmi kvm, and an output to a monitor (if you want it) and reach it from ethernet or wifi.
I'm still waiting to see more on the NanoPi R6C which has the same chipset.
Hold on a minute, it's capable of recording HDMI like a capture card?
Sorta, I would recommend a cheaper opi5 and a cheap usb capture card. Obs runs fine
yes, when the software is ready
1:35 Literally had to come here to figure out where to plug in the power. One would tend to think it would be close to the power button. This thing doesn't really have a 'front' in the traditional sense of the word.
You should be able to use a USB Controller, on the Orange Pi 5 w/Orange Droid I was playing Diablo/Minecraft XBox 360 USB controller with no 3rd party software.
You mean diablo 4?
Great video, but I missed the power consumption section. What is the power consumption in idle, avg use, and maximum load?
Imo, ETA has become like typical high level CZcamsr these days. Not much technical details on temps, cooling, power, PSUs tested etc....
What about RetroPie on these???
orange pi 5 is even faster than raspberry pi 5
Great video,
I'm thinking about getting one soon.
I'm new to gaming on a box like this and would like to try some.
What do you suggest for controller's.
I usually use boxes like this for just movie streaming.
Also I'm interested in know how to record streaming on the hdmi input.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance......
Controllers are best from Microsoft(Xbox) and Sony. 2nd tier is 8bitdo, and tier 3 is gamesir. I would recommend sticking to classic Xbox controller, or looking towards 8bitdo best models. For record, depending on OS you will be using software may vary from what is available
hdmi in! this could straight up kill the elgato cap cards
I am watching this on FydeOS on a Orange Pi 5 vanilla - it's really sexy, you have ChromeOS with Android and Linux subsystems. I wonder if FydeOS supports the 5 plus too...
It's just a different dtb. I don't think that would be a problem
Hi, love the channel, just something id like to see, maybe build it myself, sbc like this built in a handheld with dual or maybe triple screens, so surface duo running linux(?)....just an idea!
Can you try Switch emulation with Yuzu (android ver.) on the Orange Pi 5?
Can we run it as an NVR for IP cameras or like a surveillance.
Have you tried connecting to the portable touch screen via usb-c ?
I know you have a screen like that ,i saw it in one of the other videos.
I'm wondering if all the functions will work?🙂🙂
Windows 11 + Android = Orange Pi
Waiting for your fire max 11 review. Would also love to know if the new fire max 11 can play HEVC (x265) 10 bit videos. I know none of the current amazon tablets can play this type of media which is a bummer.
I have taken that sbc today and i would like to watch a tutorial from you, your can i install android to nvme pci 3.0 . Thank you a lot!
would be perfect as a wireguard router
Hi ETA. I would love to see openfyde working on the plus. I wonder if the orange pi 5 version is compatible or the rock pi 5 with the same CPU?
Is it actually possible to emulate such SBCs on a PC before buying?
Are there any OS's that has, or can enable hardware video acceleration, on this SBC? Thanks.
Do they make cases for this
Can it run android Tv?
I have the Arch image saved in my Downloads folder from 17th May. I wonder why they removed it.
does droid os works for desktop or its only for sbc?
I'm thinking about getting the orange pi 5 plus, is yuzu running great on here?
I would love to see u plug in a 20 port sata expansion card via a m.2 nvme to pcie x1 or x4 expansion card and run 20 ssd's for a file and media server....... CAN IT BE POSSIBLE??? the 2.5gb ethernet ports should make it a viable server running off 5 volts and dont forget to report the wattage it consumes during certain tasks. If the sbc cannot run all the 20 ssd's then try using a 12 railed supply.
I wonder if this thing will run Warzone mobile? Please test Warzone Mobile when it comes out.
Weird that you are using the same gameplay video of Pi 5B here
Yeah yeah. You promised testing Arch with Opi5 as well. Arch Opi OS is available to download for Opi5 and Opi5b for about two months now... Will You do a Video about that?
He copies and pastes footage from his other review, perhaps that's why
@@PikaDevs I noticed that. And this is sad.
I'm still trying to figure out why the thumbnail had very long fingernails. hehe. Weird/fun easter-egg.
this would be perfect to for a home made dvr
Cool looking raspberry pi alternative. Just curious though, what is the purpose of the HDMI in port on it for?
@1:27
You could make it into a streaming device. Get input from your PC/Console use the HDMI-input on the Pi to encode and stream to w/e streaming service you use and then pass it over to your actual monitor/tv using one of the 2 HDMI-out ports. Aaaand, you have a 3'rd HDMI acting as a 2'nd HDMI out which can be connected to a secondary monitor to see chat and live-preview. Who knows. Sky is the limit. I'm just guessing.
You could use it as an "extra hdmi input" for your tv/display and have another sbc passing through it.
KVM
Would it run a ubuntu minecraft server faster compared to a rasp 4?
Hi EtaPrime, can it run Retropie latest version 4.8.4 have you tested ?
Can Orangepi5b plus run Sega Supermodel 3, and Sega Saturn emulator , or Psp/Ps2/Ps3 emulators with Vulkan Drivers installed ?
Hey Prime, I need your help! I just got the rog ally, but when I insert the micro sd card it's not settup ready to use as game storage, can you make a shorts or include it in a video? I would share with all my friends if you made one
WARNING to @ETAPRIME - I think you made a big mistake. The Pi 5 PLUS has an UNcripplied RK3588, not the RK3588S!
The I/O is far better on the former - PCIe v3 based rather than v2. A full size M.2 2280 NVMe SSD is more readily available than 2242 size modules. Ethernet ports are 2.5G. In short the OPi website has many omissions and incorrect pictures.
Unless the video's already been edited I believe the video has all the RK3588 specs and pictures correct. The description does have the RK3588S instead of the RK3588 though. ;)
I'm also not sure what you're describing on the official Opi5+ site page though. I believe I ran in to it about a day after the details were listed. From what I'm seeing the pictures are matching the hardware I've got sitting on my other desk and they tech specs / details are correct as far as I can tell. What are you seeing on the site that's missing or wrong?
You're correct on the above linked main page. Perhaps the page has been updated or I linked to another page. Oh, well.
Yo ETA are you the same guy who made a video about being almost searched by police while on a bike??
Hopefully it's cheaper than the RockPi5
Check your spelling before publish the review. I know you were in hurry, however people will notice that you typed ANdroid. It is a small mistake, but who knows you may do a bigger. BTW all Orange Pi computers on sale now. It is not a big difference, but $5-$7 can be nice.
ETA always does this. He loves churning out videos.
Can I do Windows 11 on this?
do the operating system images work on the raspberry pi?
Check CPU architecture for compatibility verification, and sort out boot loader specifics (u-boot) etc..
So question for you guys I got a custom desk desk arcade runs all the way up to ps1 games and game vibe and more. I wanna run all the way up to ps5 and Xbox in a 55 inch custom arcade can it be done with a pi5
ps5?? no
is this the 5b or the 5 plus? If its the 5b theres a cpl versions that come with emmc storage , wifi and bluetooth.
The 5 Plus is what's shown; the 5B is an interesting option if you aren't looking for hdmi input, or nvme support. Both are considerably faster than the Raspberry PI.
The biggest downside to the 5 Plus is that as of right now, there's no cases for it for immediate consumption. My homemade case has lots to be desired.
can you run netflix on that?
Looks good but for $150 why not get an actual pc?
150 can only buy a ram or an ssd now. 150 for an sbc isn’t so bad
@@Kekimus GPIO ? 89€ for the 4Go version ? Power ? Consumption ? Efficiency (0.6A when idle) ?
Because of the small size and ability to run alot of different projects.
This is an "actual PC" and for the price you can't get anything new that's better than this. This SBC has GPIO pins, low power consumption, 2.5G Ethernet and much more... For the price it's pretty good.
@@KekimusI picked up an beelink MINI S12 Pro for $160 on lightning deal. Great for the price. But so is this SBC
Can we install raspbian os on it?
there's armbian available, works just as well in my opinion :)
I got mine, and recording my video as well.
The only question is, do you buy this one or wait for a couple of months? They just might put out a version with onboard wifi/BT just like they did to the people who bought the first version. This is what we went through in the 90s with PCs. You bought something awesome, spent a paycheck or 2 on it and you barely had it installed before something absolutely worth upgading to came out. This is also why stuff like retropie is so hard to do for other SBCs. It has to be redone every time they upgrade this device.
They already have the 5B that has the Wifi/Bluetooth built in. Go ahead and get that if that's all you want. Just be aware that you give up NVMe. If you want all the goodies, just buy the Wifi/BT module for this board (5 Plus). You'll then have Wifi/BT/NVMe/2x2.5Gbps/2xHMDI out/HDMI in/USB-C... basically everything you could ever want out of a computer. The Plus is a freakin battlestation.
anyone can tell, can we set to 120hz?
HDMI 2.1 so yes! :D
The HDMI input was never supported on older Rockchip ARM CPUs when running non-Android Linux, so I'm wondering if they get around to support that this time around.
It dont worth it at all, I bought a orange pi 5 plus 16gb with power supply and a eMMC for $179, a WD 1T M.2 drive $75, a Wireless module for $15, a fan, box and WIFI antennas after taxes all added up to $333 with that price you can buy a very decent mini PC, also the process of flashing require more knowledge and experience making other SBC boards more user friendly, easy and faster to setup example the Raspberry Pi is easier, well supported, with a bigger community, good support and software options. In my opinion dollar by dollar you get way better performance and a solid build with a mini PC, if is a SBC what you go for a Raspberry Pi 5.
Edit: All returned to Amazon.
This looks like something I could use for a home server, but I’m Canada, it’s probably so expensive, and I’d be better off getting a used tiny pc.
Wait, what, that thing runs Gran Turismo 4 better than my S20 with Snapdragon 865. A Shame these boards are terribly overpriced.
They're like $100 what do you mean overpriced?
good specs, no software.
either get rpi5 or x86/x64 base board.
just saying.
Why is this special, is it cheap or something?
"definitely", not "defiantly"!
how do you cool thins thing? compared to rock 5b? whats the mounting holes distance?
Can we get get a tutorial for emulators on the ROG ally for research purposes only? I love to pay for my games.