Flesh and Blood is a Fighting Game

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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2023
  • The Trading Card game Flesh and Blood is obviously very unique, but where its roots are dug deep might surprise you. I contend that Flesh and Blood is a Fighting Game.
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Komentáře • 365

  • @JohnSmith-en8xf
    @JohnSmith-en8xf Před rokem +72

    You have something special going on here, like the Rhystic Studies of FaB. Can’t wait to see what’s next

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +10

      You said the same words I said to myself half a year ago when I started preparing 😉. Thanks so much!!

  • @Perkleton
    @Perkleton Před rokem +103

    FGC head and casual FaB player here - Day 1 of learning FaB I said to my friend "this is a fighting game". I've played a ton of TCGs in the past, and FaB captures the elements that make the matches feel so much more edge of your seat and fun. FaB has so much in common with fighting games and I'm so glad to see someone talking about it. Excellent video and great explanation👊

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +9

      Thank you so much! Yeah it's uncanny. Catch-up mechanics, combos, frame data, and that "never say die" feeling.

    • @bloomcrawler
      @bloomcrawler Před 18 dny

      Have you heard of UFS by JASCO games or UniVerses (Current)? It is a fighting game in card game form. All fighting game mechanics have been transferred into it even super meter. UFS died but UniVerses has continued the line with various IP's and it plays the same. Although, games for UFS UniVerses are harder to find in person If your playing just your friends though it mirrors fighting game mechanics and system exactly and the cards are cheaper. Difference being, hi, mid, and low attack cards exist.

  • @transientfire8962
    @transientfire8962 Před rokem +42

    As a former tournament player in Tekken and now a deeply invested FaB player I agree with this very much!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +4

      Hell yeah! It's good to know the tekken people are on my side, too! Tekken is the one fighting game I just...can't play haha. Not from lack of liking it mind you, the game is just so hard!

    • @DMArmada
      @DMArmada Před rokem

      Tekken is GOATED.

    • @blahblahgdp
      @blahblahgdp Před rokem

      Name?

    • @burnpisces7733
      @burnpisces7733 Před rokem +1

      Aye yo, you tryna jam on some t7??

  • @flyinggraysuns9620
    @flyinggraysuns9620 Před rokem +22

    I had never played a TCG before but love fighting games and a friend recommended FAB to me with the tagline of “Mortal Kombat mixed with poker “. I’ve been a dedicated player ever since . Great video 👏👏

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +3

      He wasn't wrong! MK even more so in some ways because you can pick certain moves for fights!

    • @Bosch6784
      @Bosch6784 Před rokem

      Play UFS. It has an actual mortal combat set

  • @QDurlstonP
    @QDurlstonP Před rokem +13

    Side point, FaB brings the satisfaction of fighting games to those who want the joy of that dance without the stress of input skill. An amazing experience for those who want a mental challenge before a dexterity/pace based one, while also adding another complexity element to balance out the game with character customization, prediction, and foretelling through deck construction opportunity and pitch stack tracking 👌

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      100%! Part of the reason I have dedicated more time to FaB is this exact thing. While I love hitting buttons in a sequence, my reaction time isn't the best. I will say, though, that input skill is, in some ways, an overrated one. With a few good options and an excellent understanding of neutral, you can go much further than someone with perfect execution, but no understanding of positioning.

  • @taylorcrawford5760
    @taylorcrawford5760 Před rokem +23

    This is the content that grows the game. Amazing stuff. Amazing editing and well written.

  • @deejus.
    @deejus. Před rokem +26

    You've expressed thoughts I never knew how to put into words! Quality content! Absolutely love the dash animal archetype shout out too. Please continue to make content like this forever.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +2

      I'm so glad I could do that for you! That's what I've always dreamed of doing for people: put things they already know into words and expressions! Thanks!

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 Před rokem +14

    I haven't heard of this card game before, but now I'm intersted.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +3

      You should definitely try it! You can pick up precon decks for most heroes for 10ish bucks. The "Commoner" format is absurdly cheap for a tcg and represents the heroes decently well. Good places to find decks are fabrary.net and fabdb.net.

  • @jeffersonwinslow8218
    @jeffersonwinslow8218 Před rokem +13

    Putting eloquently into words something I've felt and loved about FaB since my first ever WTR draft!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +3

      Awesome!! I'm glad i could do that. I think alot of us have something to say about FAB and are only recently steering to figure out how to say it!

  • @tiozuradasexatas6754
    @tiozuradasexatas6754 Před rokem +11

    I'd say the same thing with Yu-Gi-Oh (most of the time):
    - Unforgiving learning curve
    - Different combos for different situations practicing, as well as mind games
    - All the resources avaliable from start (well, it depends on how well your starting hand is) with effectiveness falling down the more the game extends
    - Chain building is really important and defines whether the game is in neutral or not
    - The game literally came from a battle shounen and was its most prevalent magic system, with the cards being ultimately a representation of the players psyche

    • @Kool212
      @Kool212 Před rokem +5

      That's what it transformed into, but it tried to have that escalation with the sacrifice system before.

    • @Nouxatar
      @Nouxatar Před 11 měsíci +3

      FaB is Guilty Gear, Yu-Gi-Oh is Marvel. I hope this makes as much sense here as it does in my head.

    • @GS_CCC
      @GS_CCC Před 8 měsíci +1

      Ygo is like if Arakune Vs Elphelt was a match up.

  • @user-fu7no1xu5b
    @user-fu7no1xu5b Před rokem +4

    I have never played flesh and blood but love fighting games and MtG.
    Thanks to this video, I learned how to play FaB, have watched gameplay vids, and am thinking about picking up a deck to use at my lgs.
    Thanks!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      You're welcome! And I hope you do. The game is so fun.

  • @chiptasty6231
    @chiptasty6231 Před 15 dny

    As a long time dizzy, testament, Naoto, and now DJ main I was stoked to see that you consider Prism in the zoner category! When researching who to main while learning the game two weeks ago I knew something seemed familiar about her…

  • @OminousBlackbird
    @OminousBlackbird Před rokem +5

    I’ve been describing fab as a fighting games for years .. my friend who is knee deep in fgc and tired of mtg sent me this lol thank you for making this video hopefully we can get him playing fab now.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Haha I hope so! That's the goal. I knew there was a huge crossover!

  • @BombDoggy
    @BombDoggy Před rokem +2

    well put together, I was talking with a friend about this concept and we had already started using more fighting game terminology compared to card game terminology with FaB. I am excited to see more people talking about this. (also incredibly well made video dude)

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      It's great, right? It's been so fun to see everyone start considering this. What terms do you borrow from the FGC?

    • @BombDoggy
      @BombDoggy Před rokem

      @gorganiantome well, the first thing that comes to mind is okizeme when referring to having and maintaining tempo by forcing your opponent to want block or otherwise reducing them to smaller hand limiting their response options (and wake-ups by extension)
      How we have been treating Uzuri, rather than being a balance character, we have been experimenting with her as a 50/50 character
      Leveraging her ability and stealth reactions and go wide potential to create situations where our opponent has to guess right on how to block or be punished for blocking.
      Wanting to create an okizeme situation where the opponent is now in a guessing game to get out of it and looping it until we get a hand that prevents this or they guess right and can reset to neutral or challenge and steal a turn.
      The biggest problem with this playstyle is that the balance is incredibly delicate with the potential of doing nothing hands existing. Getting the ratios right will be key in this style of deck. However, it is quite satisfying to do stuff like bluff a switch in to instead double spike a stealth card.
      Or present a go again attack into stealth swap
      Some of the 5 card hands can have some very difficult to read play lines for the opponent, and it creates some fun guessing games where if they choose poorly, they get punished.
      Think Milia from guilty gear, with many of the same problems and a bit less reliability in what tools she has access to at any given time.
      Another fun aspect of the bluff game in this playstyle is you can get hands that support both and if your opponent is not making you block, it is possible to play less than optimal turn cycles to keep the loop up. It just looks awkward as heck when you do it.

  • @MFSIMBA
    @MFSIMBA Před rokem +5

    I play alot of fighting games and Magic, but FaB always seemed really elusive to me. A scene only just cropped up near me but I didn't really know where to start or how the game flows, cause I've been having issues playing TCGs other than Magic. But breaking it down like this? I've never been more interested, this is so fucking cool thank you so much.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +3

      You're welcome! Thanks for commenting. I hope you end up trying something! It's really an incredible game.

  • @AdmTee
    @AdmTee Před rokem +4

    Me and my locals were actually comparing FaB to fighting games on Monday. As a long-time fighting game player, this made absolutely perfect sense to me. It's such an uncannily accurate description of deck archetypes and playstyles.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +2

      Right??? I'm always amazed how deep this rabbit hole goes when I would sit down to write more of the script for this video. I kept saying "well, damn, I need to talk about that, too." It's why I ended up throwing in that bit toward the end about "FAB writ Fighting Game Part 2," because there was just no way I could get it all.

    • @AdmTee
      @AdmTee Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome I'm really looking forward to the Part 2. I think this is gonna improve deck building for a lot of folks, myself included, by framing it a little differently. Really love the content dude, thanks for your time and effort!

  • @featherlord2768
    @featherlord2768 Před rokem +3

    Might be my favourite piece of Flesh and Blood content i’ve ever consumed, put many of my thoughts and the way fab games played out into a lovely video essay.
    Thank you and looking forward to more!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      More on the way! Thanks so much for the really kind words! Now I just have to figure out how to top this! haha

  • @showcase0525
    @showcase0525 Před 8 měsíci +1

    13:38 - That was art.

  • @pervysagemkd
    @pervysagemkd Před rokem +2

    I discovered fab in November last year, few days before Dynasty came out. I grew up playing card games, but I also grew up playing Tekken a lot. It's my fighting game of choice. When I first tried this game I said to my friend.. "Hmm.. this card game... feels more like a fighting game than a card game to me. Feels more like a "hero game" than Hearthstone for example... I feel like there is that 'dance' of attack for frame advantage, who has the priority, rather than the tempo that traditional card games do..."
    And you put that entire train of thought into a well made video that some of my freinds who never played fighting games just can't wrap their head around.

  • @rjsaripada7880
    @rjsaripada7880 Před rokem +3

    What an awesome video! As a long time Fighting game player and is now currently addicted to FAB, this video was a such a treat.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      You and me both! I played Magic for years and years, dropped it for fighting games, then went back to card games and eventually found FAB. This video has been in my head for so long.

  • @DMArmada
    @DMArmada Před rokem +5

    VERY well done on this video!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Thanks DMArmada! I'm so glad you liked it. A bit starstruck here, not going to lie 😂

  • @leightb9348
    @leightb9348 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Coming from a background in mtg into fow into argent saga... early on someone had told me, fab is a fighting game like street fighter or a boxing match. They said this without giving me any other perspective or correlation to the game itself. As a result i was hugely turned off by the idea and didnt pick the game up until a year later when one of my wonderful long term community members encouraged me toctey the game while i was looking for a new game. I immediately fell in love with the game and became a Katsu/ninja main. I wish i had understood this dynamic better early on in my fab career. And i wish i had a better perspective like this before. It dodnt help that i never had much console game availability or pvp console game availability in my youth. So i sorely lacked perspective of what a fighting game was really about. Coming from a mtg background, it really didnt translate very well at all.
    This vid did an AMAZING job of breaking down why, and how. This made me understand the dynamics i was missing. And theres some serious tips in gere for how to learn to be a better fab player as well. Thank you so much for your effort in making this video. It was an enjoyable watch!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks so much for your story! I'm so so happy I could help you develop a deeper understanding of the game!

  • @jacobkissel
    @jacobkissel Před rokem +1

    Amazing video! Thank you so much for putting this together. Seeing all the comments from Fighting game players looking to try fab is surreal. Please please keep making stuff like this!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +2

      Can't stop won't stop! Thanks so much for the kind words!

  • @madelinemiyun2712
    @madelinemiyun2712 Před rokem +2

    really quality stuff, the kind of thing fab really needs

  • @austinshores819
    @austinshores819 Před rokem +8

    What a criminally undersubscibed channel. THIS is the FAB content I CRAVE! Reminds me of Spice8rack and Rhystic Studies for magic. Keep up this amazing work, it's gonna payoff!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +2

      Spice8Rack and Rhystic Studies are my two primary inspirations! You nailed it.

    • @austinshores819
      @austinshores819 Před rokem +1

      @@gorganiantome I'm glad I found your channel before I decided to do it myself! Lol The FAB space desperately needs this content

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      @@austinshores819 Couldn't agree more. I had thought about it for so long. I even had started another channel where I was doing a lot of the same stuff other people were doing, but worse haha, and I just wasn't having fun with it. So I just "alright, you're either doing what you love to do or you're not a FAB content creator."

    • @austinshores819
      @austinshores819 Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome it's still such a young space to try and figure out, but there's plenty of room to carve your niche. I've been thinking about teaching myself the skills so I can make a blitz focused channel. It's all I really play since I'm a Shiyana main. Definitely happy I found your stuff and you took the plunge, can't wait to see where you go!

  • @danielwappner1035
    @danielwappner1035 Před rokem +1

    okay NOW you've convinced me to try out fab

  • @_Br33zy
    @_Br33zy Před rokem

    This video flew under my radar and I wish I’d seen it sooner! Amazing work, man!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      So all my content creator heroes are just going to make my day over and over again? Haha! Thanks so much Br33zy! I can't explain how much I appreciate it!

  • @EKTurduckin
    @EKTurduckin Před 3 měsíci

    Great video!
    I'd love to see a rathe times article that keeps up to date with heroes and where on that triangle fighting game chart.
    Coming from Magic you're absolutely right on "jund mid range is 'play Rhinar, but kinda not'"

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 3 měsíci

      I have a rathe times article series on FaBxFGC already! You can go read them all now.

  • @JakeTheSasquatch_
    @JakeTheSasquatch_ Před rokem +1

    GRAPPLER SUPREMACY. What an incredible video. All of our conversations about it being a fighting game finally hitting the general populace. Love it.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      And the post-conversations playing out in the comments lol. Check out @noahrobinson4242's comment.

  • @demiurge2501
    @demiurge2501 Před rokem +1

    I’ve never played FAB(MTG player) but I LOVE fighting games, this seems like a great watch

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja Před 2 měsíci

    How dare you call me a grappler? (I haven't played FaB yet but the hero I like the most is Azalea). Great, awesome video. Coming from a MtG background, I was also struggling to categorize FaB's characters in the traditional archetypes, but as soon as I started watching deck techs and gameplays, it hit me that FaB was a fighting game (which I also play somewhat often). You do a great job in the video translating all their similarities and making it clear where the games meet. Really great video.

  • @nafets507
    @nafets507 Před rokem

    I've been thinking about this kind of concept for weeks, but you put it into words to succinctly and understandably! This is such a marvellous delve into FaB and general game design as a whole

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thank you! I'm glad it helped you find more words for your own feeling! If you're interested, I did an interview with Push the Point on their CZcams channel about it!

    • @nafets507
      @nafets507 Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome I’ll check it out!

  • @juneaino5805
    @juneaino5805 Před 11 měsíci

    fantastic video!!! will be waiting with baited breath for the next video (whatever it may be)

  • @dihimono
    @dihimono Před rokem

    This is exactly what clicked on me after one day I watched some EVO clips! Really appreciate it someone made it into a video :).

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Yes! I love watching EVO. The more I played FAB, the more I saw it in fighting game clips and just couldn't get it out of my head!

  • @milkokawaiidjiev5000
    @milkokawaiidjiev5000 Před rokem +1

    Literally the best video i've watched in relation to FaB. 10/10 , well deserved sub and like my dude.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thank you thank you! Incredibly kind words. I just gotta figure out how to top this one 😂

  • @srakin9528
    @srakin9528 Před rokem +2

    "Draw 4 mechanic" - Datadoll electronic screeching

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Sorry data Doll. I don't know enough about blitz to talk about it 😂

    • @srakin9528
      @srakin9528 Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome All you really gotta know is that it turns out when everyone else draws 4 and you draw 3, that's...not good!

  • @veridis_qu0
    @veridis_qu0 Před 10 měsíci

    As someone from the fgc that is currently getting into FAB after organizing an offline local in my LGS this was super interesting. This is exactly how I felt about FAB when I saw it being played in the store and fell in love with it immediately. I will use this as a reference to pick my nest hero :)

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 10 měsíci

      I'm so glad to hear it! One of the reasons I fell in love with FaB was because it was basically street fighter, but didn't require reaction time! 😂. My reaction is horrible.

  • @SigmaOrDoS
    @SigmaOrDoS Před rokem +4

    Awesome video, I am a long time MtG and Street Fighter player, I do strongly agree with this PoV as I usually try to match MtG archetypes of aggro/tempo/midrange/combo/control to FaB and it's probably more correct to see it as you put it.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      This video was birthed from my trying to do exactly as you! It's natural that the game which birthed so much of TCG terminology would be applied to FAB. Hell, we still call it "the graveyard" after all haha. But for me, it just never felt right to call a fatigue deck control!

    • @SigmaOrDoS
      @SigmaOrDoS Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome I believe Dromai and Prism lean more for control decks and not fatigue, because they are not fighting to diminish you but to actually create a board big enough to kill with death by thousand cuts, opponents spent cards either going at you or in a balance not to let them taking control of the game.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 Před rokem

      Bring your Magic cards to fighting events, and look into Flesh and Blood.

  • @ramirgeddon
    @ramirgeddon Před rokem +1

    i actually described it to one of our new comer way back when as its similar to Tekken. With cards acting like frames/ frame advantage etc.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Crazy! I am continuously surprised, reading all these comments, how many people thought just like I did. Great minds!

  • @m-n-rcast
    @m-n-rcast Před rokem

    Michael and Roger just had a great session of Street fighter 6 last night. All these analogies were amazing. Awesome video

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Hell yeah! I'm glad you got Michael to play. Did he play Dhalsim like he suggested?

    • @m-n-rcast
      @m-n-rcast Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome Yeah, but he was a bit too advanced to start with, and Michael has settled on Luke for now.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Luke's a good choice! He's the true Shoto of SF6.

  • @LaustinSpayce
    @LaustinSpayce Před rokem +2

    Awesome video, I only really play Smash occasionally - the breakdown of fighting game archetypes was a real eye opener, a much cleaner way of telling heroes apart in fab as opposed to forcing mtg archetypes! I wonder what equivalents to Ike, Villager and Bayonetta there are for FAB from smash haha.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Haha for that you'll have to ask a Smash aficionado. I'm sure they have a lot of the same archetypes, but I've never really dug deep into Smash enough to figure it out. I can ask my buddy and see what he says!

  • @blakemeier8003
    @blakemeier8003 Před rokem

    Kudos on the vid. I would say Kassai in blitz with Copper fueling her Blood on Her Hands turns is the closest we have to a super meter and EX. Love the rushdown/rounder/zoner talk will steal that for sure.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thanks! Yeah I've only ever played in one blitz event and never against Kassai 😆. But I could definitely envision that as a sort of metered line.

  • @postpwnedtv
    @postpwnedtv Před rokem +1

    This. I have compared it to a fighting game for so long was just never able to.. put those thoughts into words and good comparisons. I love this video!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Thanks man! I am glad I could help others explain the game to other new players!

  • @PoopKingg
    @PoopKingg Před 11 měsíci

    This is the best Flesh and Blood video on CZcams.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci

      Wow! Thanks so for such high praise! If you're interested, I believe my first two articles which expand on this subject are now free on The Rathe Times. More of those are to come in the coming month or so. Then I will go on to make FAB/FGC part 2!

  • @mawillix2018
    @mawillix2018 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This is a great video, and I wish there were more like it. I'm addicted, please help.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 7 měsíci +1

      More to come! I'm so happy you enjoyed it!

  • @AzakiahIsYourOnlyGod
    @AzakiahIsYourOnlyGod Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @HeirofDacia
    @HeirofDacia Před rokem

    This video deserves a sub, my man.

  • @MajiinBae
    @MajiinBae Před rokem +2

    Holy shit you startled me when you said my name 😂

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Haha! MAJINBAE ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? ME, CZcams GUY. Thanks man!

  • @anthonyrodriguez9232
    @anthonyrodriguez9232 Před rokem

    This is a great video, my only question is is there a great place to try FaB online since I don't have a local scene near me?

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Yes! Felttable.com to play against ai of whatever heroes you like to try out everything. Grab potential decklists from Fabrary.net or fabdb.net (just upload and import.) Start there because it's alot better to get a handle on the game without feeling rushed by an online player. Once you got a handle, talishar.net is the next step!

  • @Cardboardgrinch
    @Cardboardgrinch Před rokem

    Suuper cool video! So chill, lovenit

  • @skurai
    @skurai Před rokem

    great video. Impressive quality. (You shouldn't leave that pitch black screen so long tho. It is quite odd to the eyes and very unsettling for the viewer. Great video non the less. well done

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Fair enough. Still learning how to end videos. That's probably where a "like comment and subscribe!!!!!" Should go

  • @BigHenshin
    @BigHenshin Před rokem

    *Cries, remembering the Universal Fighting System TCG*

  • @magentapoke5829
    @magentapoke5829 Před rokem

    Great video and i felt like it makes it click in my head better

  • @Svergara1
    @Svergara1 Před 9 měsíci

    I've been playing felt table for a few weeks and really having trouble as a magic playing getting the pacing of attacking and defending......honestly, this video was the explanation i needed and now actually get the pacing and ability to combo!!!

  • @FinalShadow95
    @FinalShadow95 Před rokem +1

    Omg, this is the best FAB video I saw. Thanks!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Huge praise! I gotta figure out how to top that haha! But thanks so much! That's very kind of you.

  • @CallumDark
    @CallumDark Před 10 měsíci

    Red in the Ledger is why I play Azalea. I just absolutely love that card. I also like grapplers because I just want to land one big hit to create tempo. It was always meant to be.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Haha! I'm very glad you enjoy her. The different archetypes, and what attracts people to those archetypes, is what makes such a fun and varied game for everyone!

  • @alextruell1758
    @alextruell1758 Před rokem +2

    Great video, well articulated and doesn't attempt to put FAB in a box it doesn't belong in just because it's a card game. I'd love to feature you on the Rathe Times, if you're interested!

  • @SmashCentralOfficial
    @SmashCentralOfficial Před rokem

    1:00 I got some blitz Precons the other day and played with a friend and after I was like "I really like the flavor of this game. Its like a 1v1 fight and the cards are the strikes and blocks. If you imagine it in real time it's a really cool fight"

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Exactly! You have to sort of imagine the fight in slow motion, but it works so well and everything tracks really elegantly to a duel.

  • @j4bon505
    @j4bon505 Před rokem

    MTG and Guilty Gear: Strive gamer here (testament zoner gaming).Great video ! I’ll look into flesh and blood more. I’ve heard about it in the past but haven’t really looked into it that deep. Love the comparisons and parallels.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thanks!! I'm glad to hear my video is landing with MTG players as well. Based on your testament play, I'd try out Iyslander, Lexi, Dromai, or *maybe* Kano.

  • @Pleia_Ds
    @Pleia_Ds Před 11 měsíci

    That’s what full power Ishizu Tearlament mirrors felt like

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci +1

      From what I've heard! Maybe give FaB a shot if you liked that dance in YGO. Every match of FaB is that to some degree!

  • @EviLRiskie
    @EviLRiskie Před rokem

    great video and comparison! Thanks for the content, new sub here

  • @Nouxatar
    @Nouxatar Před 11 měsíci

    Okay, so, been thinking about picking up FaB for at least the last few months, and I finally got around to doing so around a week ago. As a big FGC head, if this happens to be an answerable question: I play Anji in GG Strive and Manon in SF6. I like slower paced, yet somewhat evasive characters with a strong emphasis on mindgames, the kind that win by getting into the opponent's head. What FaB hero(es?) would you recommend?

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Boy have I two heroes for you! Either: 1 Uzuri or 2 Dorinthea. They are both less grapplers like Manon, but they are focused heavily on mind games. Uzuri has a mechanic where she can represent an attack on the combat chain and then swap it for any attack in her hand for free. She doesn't go very wide (slower paced), but she threatens damage Every turn and blocks really well. That's my top recommendation. Uzuri is in the Outsiders box, and very few of her cards come from elsewhere.
      Then there's Dorinthea, who attacks with her sword every turn, and, if she can land the attack twice, she gets to put a +1 damage counter on it. How she does this is, you guessed it, mind games! Her cards are more spread out, as she's one of the oldest heroes, but she's very strong. Look up Josh Lau on CZcams to learn more about her.

    • @Nouxatar
      @Nouxatar Před 11 měsíci

      @@gorganiantome Thanks a bunch!!! I figured if the "I play X Magic deck, what FaB hero should I play?" question wasn't answerable, then this one might be ;). Cool video and channel, wish you all the success!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Nouxatar the fighting game is a much easier way for me to tell you what FaB deck to play than MTG haha! That's really the whole premise to my video.

  • @Jackthunderification
    @Jackthunderification Před rokem +1

    My man you are speaking Gospel. I got info FAB with a buddy over a year ago and the first thing I did was compare it to a fighting game. Thank you for making this video!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for your comment! I'm getting more and more amazed at how many people said this the moment they started playing like I did!

    • @Jackthunderification
      @Jackthunderification Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome it is a very unexpected crossover for sure. But once you play a game of FAB the similarities are immediately apparent. Loved how you point out the importance of situational awareness in both games

  • @pheano
    @pheano Před rokem

    I've been comparing fab to fighting games for a few years now, I'm glad you made this video because you articulated it so well

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thanks Pheano! It's super cool to hear that you also compared it to Fighting Games! I'd say great minds and all that, but I only got this one video 😂

    • @pheano
      @pheano Před rokem +1

      @@gorganiantome gotta pump those numbers up

    • @Cathardigan
      @Cathardigan Před rokem

      @@pheano ooo. I smell a sequel! Haha. Thanks for sharing

    • @pheano
      @pheano Před rokem +1

      @@Cathardigan no no no get someone that knows more about fighting games than me

  • @MrRazerath
    @MrRazerath Před rokem

    Great content! Subscribed!

  • @DeadSummerArt
    @DeadSummerArt Před rokem

    What an absolutely beautiful video essay. Very glad I found your channel! +1 sub :)

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much for the kind words!!! I really really appreciate it 😁

  • @mclair81
    @mclair81 Před rokem

    What a great video. Pure quality.

  • @gauge9100
    @gauge9100 Před rokem +2

    Okay first off putting all of the heros into fighting game archtypes is genius! Im am so downloading the online version and giving it a try now. Also i saw no Melty. I highly recommend MBAACC or TL. They are very fun. MBAACC has a free community edition to try.
    Edit: Probably going to play Lexi

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Awesome! I'm so glad to hear it. Yeah try out felttable.com to learn the rules. You play against an ai and it's wonderful. But yeah I've played SOME MB. They're really fun! MBAACC blows my mind with its complexity 😂

  • @ttltobbe
    @ttltobbe Před rokem +1

    Again a banger of a video!!!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thank you! I really, really appreciate your comment.

  • @RagingfanaticTV
    @RagingfanaticTV Před rokem

    idek anything about FAB and i still don’t get how to play but this was entertaining to watch :) great game knowledge

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Haha! There are a ton of videos to learn how to play. Felttable.com also has a tutorial against a robot!

  • @mistervader
    @mistervader Před 11 měsíci

    If you’ve played Yomi and how similar its gameplay is to FAB, you’d absolutely see the parallels right away. :D excellent video!

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I hadn't heard of it until this comment. After this comment, I found it on steam. After finding it on steam, I bought it! Wow!!

    • @mistervader
      @mistervader Před 11 měsíci

      @@gorganiantome glad you liked it! Yomi has its own fighting game based on it called Fantasy Strike. It’s super simplified, though with one-button specials and the like, but still fun enough to play from time to time.
      Both games were developed by David Sirlin, who as you know developed the HD Edition of Super Turbo. So dude knows his stuff.
      Have you heard of UFS as well? That's another TCG that's literally all about fighting games.

  • @bird8592
    @bird8592 Před rokem +1

    Kinda wish UFS (now universus) was more accessible to more people. Alot of people I ask look at ufs turn structure and nope out, but it does capture head to head mechanics well.
    If FAB did one thing right it was being easy to understand and play by comparison.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      I'm always amazed at how FAB can be simultaneously so simple and so complex. it's a marvel. And UFS is the My Hero Academia card game, right? I never tried it! Looks cool, though.

    • @bird8592
      @bird8592 Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome It's a bunch of different ips but my hero is the most well known currently.
      It had street fighter, soul calibur, kof and more way back in ufs days. They had variable hand sizes and health to simulate archtypes so grapplers would have low hand, but high health and beefy abilities for example

  • @derenathor
    @derenathor Před 11 měsíci

    Just ordered my Levia demihero! Excited to play Fab's first dragon install character.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci

      Congrats!! The vynnset carda I'm still missing should come in today!!!

  • @SSDsmiley
    @SSDsmiley Před rokem

    Wonderful video! I haven't played a lot of fighter games but I do like the archetype scheme much better for FaB than using MTG's archetypes. I also kinda want a FaB fighting game now...

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      FAB as a fighting game would be awesome! I have to wonder if it would be more 3d (tekken, soul calibur) or 2d (street fighter)

  • @SlamBaron
    @SlamBaron Před rokem +1

    I dont know if my other comment posted but there is already an existing tcg that used fighting game IPs including street fighter called Universus.
    It used to be called universal fighting system but was changed to universus once they rebooted the game with their recent use of the my hero academia anime which they also use alongside fighting games and Capcom games like Mega Man.
    Right now they've been on a My Hero Academia spree with their set released but the mechanics are exactly of a fighting game.
    The attacks can hit high, mid, or low. You also have enhance abilities, throws do damage even if blocked but only half damage since you can't really block a throw in most fighting games save for MK9(LOOKING AT YOU JAX GOTCHA "GRAB").

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Yeah! I read another comment about this game in the comments! I want to try it now, especially if they add some more cards from the IPs I like like SF!

  • @MrThewooter
    @MrThewooter Před rokem +1

    Huh. I guess this is true. In fab I loved prism, even if she was just mtg ported into FaB, and I love balrog, even if he's just SamSho ported into SF.
    I also hate training, I can tolerate around 20minutes in the training room and maybe 2 runs of arcade/an hour on ladder and I just want to die.
    Same with fab, I spend more then 10 minutes learning generic defensive cards, let alone match ups and I zone out and I can really only habdle 4-5 games before I would rather spin on my chair than play.
    Edit : I also appreciate you calling grapplers and especially Pot bullshit, but not GOOD, as though they are frustrating they aren't often top teir, and even more rarely top teir when played purely as a grappler.

  • @iwa9691
    @iwa9691 Před 9 měsíci +1

    After watching this video I couldn't quite figure out whether you were trying to explain FaB to fighting game fans or fighting games to FaB fans. Having to give a basic explainer to each new concept introduced for both sides of the analogy really messed with the pacing for me and I ended up fastforwarding through most of the parts explaining fighting game concepts I was already familiar with. For how much the video already wanted to talk about, I feel that bringing other genres of games like Overwatch, R6 etc without really explaining them such that the examples only fully made sense to those who have tried the games gave the video a slightly rambly feel. Just some genuine nitpicks on an otherwise amazing video, best of luck on your YT journey.

  • @mohnmann
    @mohnmann Před rokem

    Very interesting video and great points.

  • @jiffyb333
    @jiffyb333 Před rokem

    Very interesting idea, and a very solid execution in delivering it. :)

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @tmkfnetrunner
    @tmkfnetrunner Před měsícem

    Based Netrunner mention

  • @AdventureCoGaming
    @AdventureCoGaming Před 8 měsíci

    One of the best pieces of fab media to date

  • @laaronml
    @laaronml Před rokem

    Incredible video

  • @arthurapm9236
    @arthurapm9236 Před 9 měsíci

    I do understand what you mean, but as a magic player AAAND a big fgc fan, I've played honestly waaay too many hours of street fighter, guilty gear and other games alike(but mostly tthose two) and i can see the difference, but magic is actually a lot closer to a fighting game than you would imagine. I just think that you only get to the fun part in a fighting game when you get through the execution part and you can focus on the actual game(neutral and turns) and in magic you have to get to a certain point in understand the meta and all the tools you have at your disposal bit when you get there, it becomes very much a tempo thing, you do have the ideia of getting bigger and building your board, but sequencing ans knowing what your opponent can do and when and how to respond, thats the actual game. Either way, great game, im just goad to see tcg and fgc together, my two greatest passions hehe.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 9 měsíci

      I've played magic for over a decade. FaB is much closer in my experience. I don't think that means it's a better game. Just different. Have you tried FaB?

  • @gerudo6876
    @gerudo6876 Před 10 měsíci

    8th+ rewatch and everytime your cathartic hatred of Potemkin makes me giggle a little

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 10 měsíci

      I really don't like that character 😂
      I still get kara-bustered in my nightmares

  • @safra
    @safra Před 11 měsíci

    Ive been playing card games and fighting games my whole life. Got into fab recently and bought sf6. I feel like the situational awareness is huge in both. The one thing thats a tad different is using ones life as a resource. In fighting games you generally dont do that unless you are trying to hard read your opponent and are willing to give up some hp if you are wrong. I play dromai. Im willing to get smacked in the face if it means i can summon a hoard of dragons on my turn.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 11 měsíci

      While I think you're right that you use your life as a resource much more in card games, you most certainly do use your life as a resource in FGs as well. Often the whole plan for a grappler is to trade blows so they can see what their opponent is usually trying to trade with so they can beat it. Many times I'll trade my life to try and get in on my opponent if the life I'm giving is to jabs and not sweeps/tempo making attacks. Life is a resource isn't so much talked about in the FGC like in card games, but it's certainly there and used pretty frequently.

  • @LongBreadMan
    @LongBreadMan Před rokem

    As a Grappler player in all fighting game I have played, now I understand why I like bravo so much.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Haha! I'm glad I could help provide that context.

  • @FluxbolEscueladeFutbol

    Amazing video! 👍

  • @Mrsierramist1
    @Mrsierramist1 Před rokem

    Great piece of art

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words you've posted in the comments.

  • @NeoMusicGamer
    @NeoMusicGamer Před rokem

    I have never heard of FaB before, but I like fighting games. This video is neat. I like this.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Give it a try if you have an LGS in driving distance! It's great fun and precons are 10$.

  • @gamezilla345
    @gamezilla345 Před 8 měsíci

    Ever try Exceed? It's a card game that was designed from the ground up to play like a fighting game, and does an excellent job of it. To put it in perspective, FaB feels like a fighting game relative to MtG, but FaB feels like MtG relative to Exceed.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 8 měsíci +1

      No! But that's a new one I've never heard of. Sounds really cool!

    • @gamezilla345
      @gamezilla345 Před 8 měsíci

      @@gorganiantome It's probably my favorite card game. If you've heard of the Guilty Gear Strive Board Game recently, that is the 7th set of Exceed that merely got rebranded.
      This is a great video on it, if you're interested: czcams.com/video/uGm5ybuZib0/video.htmlsi=Wr0Zo6x0V1gXnjUn

  • @andrewostman3135
    @andrewostman3135 Před rokem

    My favorite part of flesh and blood is probably the most stressful even to me and I sweat. It is the last dozen hit points or less on either side. The last couple rounds when both players are so low on health they have to block and are weedling one way or the other to get one card advantage and trick the other into making a mistake. I had that last night with a bravo and I was on viserai we were down to our last hit points and I attacked him with a one damage hit and pummeled it

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Those nerv-y, frightening last couple of turns are the best part of FAB! Every little advantage matters!

  • @sol-dono1235
    @sol-dono1235 Před rokem

    I had an aneurysm at somersault kick

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      Look i wanted to call it flash kick, but then a bunch of new players would come back in a month and say "what's a flash kick?? I only see somersault kick"

  • @XaurielZ
    @XaurielZ Před 9 měsíci

    I don't understand either Flesh and Blood or high-level fighting game play well enough to get most of this video, but the first time I heard the basic mechanics of FaB explained I immediately thought "This sounds a lot like Street Fighter as a card game"

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well...all you gotta do is go pick up a blitz precon for FaB and head to your local game store to learn! haha but for real I'm glad you enjoyed the video and felt the same way as I!

  • @tlove9752
    @tlove9752 Před rokem +1

    I have said to most people that I try to introduce into the game that its a gladiator battle basically

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      A pretty succinct way to put it! Any games come to mind that are like gladiator battles besides FAB? I suppose the point of my analysis video is to find out where I can find linkages in underlying game mechanics. To me, FAB just doesn't matchup with MTG or Pokemon or any other TCG very well. The underlying game mechanics and game engines fundamentally don't track well with TCGs, whereas with Fighting Games, I've found I can find more and more links between the two.

    • @tlove9752
      @tlove9752 Před rokem

      Darkest Dungeon is a game that has similar idea

  • @crayyonnyadrav4055
    @crayyonnyadrav4055 Před rokem

    I myself see FaB more in the RPG-style game, or at least that is what brought me to start and love it. The concept of classes with their strong points and weaknesses is similar to something like DnD, where the Rogue can explode in a huge amount of Damage in a Turn but is defensively weak. Paladins seem more like Guardians for me. And so on.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      For sure! The visuals and the meta-feels of FAB are very much like an RPG where you gain gear and whatnot. But I still contend that it's much more a fighting game with the underlying mechanics of actually *playing* the game.

  • @Cellus5000
    @Cellus5000 Před rokem

    How do I get into FaB. I follow Majiin but mostly for his LoR

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      It all just depends on what your goals are! The best is always to go to fabtcg.com -> Events, and search your local area for stores that have Armories. You can ask the shop owner for an Ira welcome deck if they have it, or grab one of the Blitz Precons. If you want to try online first, I'd say go to felttable.com because there you can play against an AI to learn the basic rules. After that it's all just dependent on goals, budget, etc.

  • @brushwagg7735
    @brushwagg7735 Před rokem

    as a magic boomer and occasionally obsessive Monster Hunter this makes me want to jump ship… tight, well made video.

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem +1

      I only hope i eventually get to make the "FAB PvE is Monster Hunter" some day! I LOVE MH. But yeah, I used to only play MTG, now I really only play FaB. I think it's proved itself worth a try!

  • @focusflute
    @focusflute Před rokem

    been saying this since i started playing during CRU! def is!

  • @joeguy2049
    @joeguy2049 Před rokem

    Fantastic video

  • @pheano
    @pheano Před rokem

    I would also classify prism as a grappler

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      Hmm. Might need to have a chat about that on a CZcams video sometime 😂. I'd love to hear your reasoning. She seems firmly in the Zoner category to me, but I consider grapplers to have evasive damage, because they can force situation in which one cannot block. Prism never forced that (to my knowledge) and instead basically littered the arena with traps and projectiles for the heroes to trip over on their way to her 😂. But I'm definitely open to being wrong!

    • @pheano
      @pheano Před rokem

      @@gorganiantome I think she is between the two, spectra feels kinda grappley to me

    • @gorganiantome
      @gorganiantome  Před rokem

      I can absolutely see your idea there. I'll have to do more research.