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#keitruck - Auta a dopravní prostředky
If the states are so concerned about safety they need to ban motorcycles.*
*Please don’t actually do that
Amen
There should be a restriction on hood heights too, we banned pop-up headlights for pedestrian safety but it’s totally fine to have the hood of your dually be 5’ high
these states need to ban politicians
Ban AI Generative
@@Fhwgads11not only that, but so many SUVs are so high off the ground, that you are likely to get dragged under them.
They're illegal because they're so cheap and affordable🤷🏻! All the companies can't sell their 80k luxury trucks if you're buying an old little Honda for less than 5k. That's why they want them illegal.
@slapshotjack9806 This is a fine example of the people they pay to discourage you from buying it😂. How much were you paid to say that buddy? Do motorcycles have all those safety features other than the speed????? You could just buy it for city use and stay off the freeway 🤷🏻. But that would require using your brain to much and thinking about it before going on the freeway.
Or you could upgrade the engine because it's a Honda and make it go faster😉. You're an Imbecile. Shut your mouth. Go find a pool and look for the scratch and sniff sticker at the bottom 😂😂😂😂.
@@slapshotjack9806 so ban them from highways? it's a common law in many countries.
@@blackwidowrsa the government knows that people will still try to take them on the freeway then when they cause accidents people will begin complaining and the government will have no choice but to ban them again so there’s just no point in even allowing it in the first place
@@slapshotjack9806
But motorcycles are??
@@slapshotjack9806 highway speeds is understandable, but motorcycles do not have air bags, crumple zones, nor seat belts. Yet they are considered safer??
They're so worried about "safety". But not worried about rising hoodlines that obliterate and overrun pedestrians. Great to see politicians care about us.
Also, the Tesla Cybertruck with it's angular and razor sharp body panels that will cleanly bisect any pedestrian that it hits.
I have a Ford Falcon utility with a canopy on, and one time I couldn't find it. Yep, hidden behind a giant American truck!
@@CWINDOWSsystem32 It's amazing that the cyber truck is bad at every kind of safety
@@ianhelyar6383 Very annoying how many of those stupid giant things are coming into Australia. Even here in Hobart where they must be a massive pain in the arse to navigate around the narrow roads!!
i own what used to be considered a large full size mercedes sedan in the 80s, with a high ride height too.
you cant even see it if it’s in-front of you bumper to bumper at a stop light
they do not want cheap, small, easy to work on vehicles in the marketplace. they want as much of our income as absolutely possible be required to go into our vehicles, and to strip as much freedom from us as they can.
They want people to buy f-150s for 100k and get 13 mpg.
@@agentrex_adventures a lot of places dont
@@agentrex_adventures Because the van is nowhere near as versatile as the truck. You watched the video right?..
Did you see how much space the truck bed had with all the sides down VS being stuck in the van which has an even smaller interior than a MINI-van....
@@JGreen-le8xx I'm not sure if you know this or if it will change your opinion of the vans versatility or not. But the seats in the back of the van can fold down to have just as much "bed" space as the truck. And I don't mean that the seats just fold the back part down and create some stupid hump in the back. The seats go into the floor to make a nice perfectly flat surface. Of course it doesn't have foldable sides like the truck, but on a good amount of the vans you can take the headrests off and fold the seats flat into a bed. Sorry about the giant text wall, I just really love the van versions of the kei trucks and not as many people talk about them.
@@commentman192 OMG....😞
I know all about vans..WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS VAN WHICH IS A KEI VAN ! IT LITERALLY HAS LESS STORAGE THAN A DECENT HATCHBACK CAR!!!
These get forbidden in the US but the cybertruck is allowed? Bonkers.
Dumb question
@@TheCoreBreakdownquestion? I think it was a statement. Unlike elons toy which is a disgrace.
@@jwalster9412If it was a statement, why use a question mark? This is not a good question. Tesla is way safer than these.
@@alanhinkel420 it was a statement? He wasn't asking a question, he ended the first part with a '?' and the second with a '.' meaning he was stating something he was questioning, not something he needed to be answered.
@@jwalster9412 well, it’s s dumb statement.
The real irony of these being called "dangerous" is that they're so much safer than massive pickup trucks for anyone not in a vehicle too
Kei cars don't need to pass crash tests in Japan
@@Mofapilotsome SUVs don’t have to here.
@@pile_of_trash Didn't knew that!
@@pile_of_trash what SUV in the 2024 model year does not have to pass crash test safety standards?
As far as I know the only vehicles sold in the United States currently that do not go through crash test ratings are low volume, low production vehicles and this was done to allow startup companies to make low production cars it is a good thing for the car hobby and it was recently implemented.
The occupant of a vehicle is the priority for safety. Everyone else not in the vehicle is of no concern to manufacturers during a crash.
Worried about Americans figuring out that big is not better. They are popular world wide, and they are sold new all over the world.
They're too affordable and desirable that it'll threaten highly profitable SUVs
Nope that's not it.
Tiny engine cars are not good on wide stretch american roads
@@toyotaprius79 You actually think that the average American will even want one of these things? They're terrible for American roads.
@@bludclone True
The Kei pickups are a threat to domestic car manufacturers, because once the suburban homeowner realizes that this is what they need for those Lowe's and Home Depot runs, even the Maverick becomes less of a desirable purchase option.
bigger bed than a Maverick and better fuel economy.
don’t even get started about how popular these would be with college kids or high schoolers. these are perfect little hotrods or cheap EV swaps, the vans are the spiritual successors to the hippie vans of the 60s too.
Unfortunately suburbanites are too propagandized to realize kei trucks are good for them
Absolutely correct. 💯
I actually own a maverick hybrid and after researching it still will get better gas mileage than the kei. trucks But on the other hand I'd love to have a Kei truck too
The problem is they want to outlaw these vehicles and not the giant bro-dozers. The roads would be way safer without those on it.
Exactly. The stupidity of current day America is baffling to me. Unfortunately, it's spreading over here to the UK too. Now every other car on the road over here is an SUV. There's also a lot of guys buying Ford Ranger T6's, which are noticeably larger and taller than any of the previous Ranger's. Another difference is I used to see loads of old Ranger's actually being used as work trucks with all the dents, scrapes and bed attachments you'd expect to see on a work truck, whereas I'm pretty sure guys are only buying the T6's to give off an "alpha" image because I've never seen so much as a speck of dust on any of them and it seems the only thing the owners of them use the bed for is to haul around their inflated egos.
@@MajimaEnterprises We call the alpha image guy's vehicles pavement princesses or mall crawlers.
@@Kenobi-vu9mb Soccer Tanks
@@MajimaEnterprises Also spreading in Australia. Ergh....
Many truck owners can't park their full-sized trucks in their garages. You could easily fit two of these kei trucks inside of one garage bay and still have room for your lawn mower, snow blower and a bunch of empty boxes that you "May need someday".
the truck is the box that they "may use someday" 🤣 they just carry those boxes with them everyday!
you can park these on your porch.
Fun fact Texas just classified these as cars back in April of this year, and they can be titled and registered and driven on public roads. Although I would advise staying off the highways. But the 25 year rule still applies to them
Louisiana as well allowed them as well during the Bobby Jindal era, in 2008 or so, but speeds are capped at 55 mph but most Highways in our state are that... No interstate driving and no highways that are partial or no access to emergency vehicles or something like that. 25 year rules are that as well...
And also can get registered and titled as long as you have taillights, headlights, mirrors for the passenger and driver and the basic stuff like that as well.
If Texas is similar to our state when it gets to that potentially, both are in common tbh.
It was also thanks to the Kei truck community in Texas They worked with law makers to make them legal
@@f1champ551 there isn't a speed cap for them in texas right now but everything has to work on them just like any other car and highway speeds over here are 75mph
@UCJfwWR2jYSkaiFPTPorI9gA yep I was one of the guys that signed the petition to get them legal!
I would be very scared driving these in TX, here in TX they love their trucks big, and they drive fast. Even 18 wheelers fly down the road well beyond the max speed of these Kei cars.
Kei trucks are death traps but motorcycles and scooters aren’t.
Government logic at work.
And before anyone starts, no I am not advocating for making two wheeled vehicles illegal.
Political correctness is not at all correct. It is almost always corrupt. Our nation is a lot less free than it was in 1945.
Motorbikes CAN be risky if handled by a poor rider. Pickups and SUVs, however, are the real death traps. They're too massive to be functional.
the big difference is the term truck, the motorcycles and scooters aren't in the category of truck so that is the big difference also those kei trucks haven't airbags, have not esp, an crash with a larger SUV And your die immediately because doesn't even have a big weight and the doors aren't thicker but thin and also is dangerous for the rest of the users on the roads , if transport loads
@@megacap55 But we have motorcycles/scooters legal to road use with no metal between you and whatever hits you, your comparison isn't a great example. It's not a "truck" most of the early 1970's Japanese import "trucks" were as flimsily made as this cabover if not worse.
@@tauncfester3022 but are not in the cars or trucks vehicles of 2 to 4 passengers or under CAFE
Another thing to keep in mind is that, while Kei trucks are undeniably less safe for their drivers, they are vastly more safe for other vehicles and pedestrians around you. The people in the Kei truck are literally the only people adversely affected by the decreases safety standards of the Kei truck, as they aren't unsafe in any way that effects others, and due to their small size and great visibility, it's easier to see and stop for pedestrians, and you are less likely to harm anything you might hit in them. Compare this to a big American pickup, where you can line up a dozen kids in front of them and still see nothing over the hood, and which are big enough that you can entirely overrun something or completely crush a small vehicle.
Even more so when those trucks are modified - either lifted to where the bottom of the front bumper is level with the roof of a regular car, or squatted where the driver can only see the sky while driving. A lift to a kei truck by the same magnitude would probably only make it as tall as a Subaru Outback.
I posted a lengthy comment that explains this, but in short: You are incorrect. The safety aspect isn't about impact; it's about being a slow-moving blockade on a high-speed road.
@@Javelier But most of these vehicles can go 60 MPH, which means that, aside from very fast interstate highways, they are perfectly capable of keeping up with traffic.
@@Javelier say that as if any other kei car isn't legal either. man has a street legal model T so if you want to talk about blocking traffic😭
@@bow-tiedengineer4453 A zero-to-zixty time of 75 seconds says otherwise.
As an Aussie, it sounds crazy to me hearing Americans talk about the situation over there, given that for a long time you could actually walk into a dealership here and drive out in a new Kei car, van or truck, most of which I recall were sold here by Suzuki and Daihatsu, and there’s little if any restrictions on importing them. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s less about “safety” and more about protecting the sales of freedom trucks
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I'm not going to go too deep into the details, but the reason states are cracking down on these is industry lobbying. And interestingly, if you do a little bit of digging, it's the same group of lobbyists who got states to change their old moped laws c. 2008 (in the recession) to have 50cc mopeds treated the same as full sized motorcycles (ie, registered as motorcycles, insured as motorcycles, motorcycle license required). The aim of which was IMO to keep people from "trading down" from a car to a scooter to save money (prior to this, most states let you drive a moped with a regular driver's license, and often with no insurance, so treating mopeds like full sized motorcycles made them more difficult and expensive for an average car person to get into). This group has been pushing these laws through under the guise of "standardization" - they claim they just want all states to have the same laws, but you don't have to squint to hard to see that the real aim is to try and force people to buy new cars.
i dunno how a system with lobbyists started but holy hell its evil
Our freedoms are an illusion.
Just about done wit dc💩🤷🏿♂️
The environmentalists at work. Make buying a smaller vehicle that is cheap to run and more realistically environmentally friendly as hard as possible so instead you leverage people into hybrids or better yet EV's to boost numbers to use as proof that environmentalists are on the right track and need more power in policy making.
@@Hybris51129 I would think enviromentalists would want smaller vehicles in general, electric or not, no?
My concern? Too many people saying the van version is the same as the truck version, instead of it getting the truck unbanned, it'll just get the van banned instead.
Van versions are actually better balanced, they have more weight on the rear. That is one of the most dangerous things about these vehicles is if you do a panic stop from highway speed they will just flip on their nose. I owned one and put a lot of road miles on it and I totally understand the ban.
@@CarswithNashi dont, it should be the choice of the American people on whether we wanna drive a death trap or not, motorcycles suffer from this same issue you talk about, yet are still road legal at least if you do a stopping in the kei truck you have a cab to protect you, unlike motorcycles, also 3 wheelers are very dangerous on the road such as the reliant robin yet they aren’t banned to license, this is just a way for lobbiests to get a cheap vehicle banned that can be put into the hands of the masses and undercut the auto industry
@@CarswithNash If a person wants to drive a supposed "death-trap", by god let them drive the supposed death-trap.
@joelthorstensson2772 Don't get me wrong, I didn't say I agree with the ban, I'm against stifling freedoms... I just said I understand it, these vehicles don't belong on a fast moving road.
@@CarswithNashthen let's legislate them to 50 mph max and enforce it stringently
I have seen a Suzuki Carry van with three 200lb+ guys across the front seats come up to an intersection and the driver deliberately stood hard on the brakes, lifting the rear wheels off the ground....
and at the top of the arc...
they all leaned to the left...
and the truck fell over on it's side.
They then climbed up out of the driver's door, lifted the van back on it's wheels....
and buzzed off into the night.
Great party trick...
While the story sounds apocryphal, I have seen something very similar done on a construction site. When empty, the load on the back wheels on some models is not much at all.
I don't think anyone is dropping their car and wrinkling up the tinfoil door panels and destroying mirrors on purpose.
I saw a big SUV and a monster truck kill people on the news. Just because someone uses it wrong way doesn't mean its unsafe or any car truck would be banned for that reasoing, I'm sure if a cop saw that they would have given them a ticket for reckless driving just as any person doing something reckless on the road
Kei van owner here. The van have been in my family since it was new in 1993 and my mother have accidents were people crash into her into the driver door and nothing unusual happen only some whiplash and the last time i crash from the front nothing happen to me, my knees and legs were ok the car was a bit smashed but the nissan i crashed into was demolished, not even the front glass lamps were cracked, only the bumper and the plastic indicators.
I guess Nissans are just as fragile in Japan as they are here.
You should be legally required to notify potential passengers that you’re a terrible driver and you’re from a family with bad luck.
@@keithb6717 the dude that side fly by a stop sign ,and the front colition was because a grandpa take a corner to wide and fast .
@@ramonponce4539
So you agree. Bad luck in family.
@@keithb6717 i guess 2 accidents in 28 years are bad luck
These were sold brand new in the US. I used to buy the Daihatsu version for the military in the 90s. There was a limit on how many cars and trucks the military could buy, but these didn't count, so we bought a lot of them for travel on base. They were left hand drive and had plates but weren't legal for travel off base.
Thats how they should be used, on a military base or in a city. They should not be legal on any road with a speed limit above 40 mph, simply too slow and weak, hinderance to traffic.
That's really interesting...did they only sell the vans or also the trucks? Come to think of it I think I've seen them on university campuses as well, although that's still mostly sxs and increasingly EVs
@@chir0pterthe University of Wisconsin had a bunch of these ( Suzuki vans and trucks) they had a special license and a slow moving vehicle sign. I don't think they got them out on the hyway. I'm pretty sure the maintenance staff liked them...judging by the way they drove them...seeing them on a snow day in the fleet parking lot was certainly amusing.
@@chir0pter We only bought the truck versions. However, I did a quick search of GSA contracts and Vantage Vehicle International has a contract for various types on their website in EV and ICE variants. I won't link it, but a Google search will find it.
Texas and North Carolina are two states where the kei trucks were banned, but the ban later got reversed as kei users fought back against the lobbyists.
NC here: Yep, not going back now, we have dealerships everywhere and I see them all over the triangle. If they tried again, it’d be a waste of money.
The reason they are so popular in Japan is because they are cheap. A special tax loophole allows for their existence, which is why they meet the dimensions and specifications that they do. Otherwise the taxes are much higher. Also useful for parking in congested Japanese cities.
They’re cheap in Japan because the government favors cramming more people and vehicles into their cities, than they favor safety.
not to mention its a perfect all around use vehicle outside in country sides
@@Area_man115 That's not entirely true. The safety standards are the same for these small vehicles, as they are for regular cars and trucks.
Aww, other countries dont have sprawling suburbs? American mad @@Area_man115
@@TrinomCZ Do you actually know that to be true or are you just saying it?
I mean look at the things, they're all cabover design but most don't even have an engine under the seat or under your feet - So there is literally no structural integrity or crumple zone, the new ones have a driver's airbag, there's no passenger airbag.
Are the safety standards the same?
Safety standards in 2024 require reverse cameras, ABS, ESC, lane keep assist, blind spot indicator, etc. These things obviously don't have any of that.
Hey look, neither does my truck, I'm not saying these things are necessary I'm just saying you're talking trash.
if the states are concerned about these trucks being "unsafe" then they need to ban the Ford Model T or the Willy's Jeep as those are a lot more dangerous than that tiny pickup truck, the real reason is the car companies are afraid of competition
or the beetle or the gremlin. I bet old mustangs are just as bad too
@@nermket4849
No. Of all the old subcompact cars of the same 1970 era, the Gremlin was likely the safest. A Gremlin is actually a compact Hornet with a chopped rear. Way safer than an old beetle and safer than a Pinto or a Vega.
c90 adventure fan i see!
Competition from used 30 year old compact trucks? We already have those here in the US just slightly bigger with an actually comfortable interior, they're called S10s, rangers & HiLux
@@SomeGuy_Somewhere I had a TOYOTA SE5 loved that truck
You guys briefly mentioned some people blame it being right hand drive as why they should be banned, but basically all of the USPS mail trucks are right hand drive so they can deliver to mailboxes.
They have the left hand drive models in the Philippines.
Funny how the big three benefit the most if all right hand drive cars get banned. Their lobbyists are hard at work trying to get the next government bailout
Well there's nothing stopping any other rhd vehicle that passes the 25 year rule from, being imported and registered. And yes mail carriers love factory rhd stuff. I wish we could get options newer than 25 years old because it sucks that I couldn't buy something newer than 1999. I bought a 97 MY Toyota Estima Lucida. But think about all the advancements made to vans since then. I would have much preferred to buy a newer one that had modern amenities like say.....a sliding door on BOTH sides. This whole crap is just the lobbying industry keeping laws in place that favor themselves by banning foreign options. It's almost like we aren't nearly the free market economy that people try to portray the US as.
I own a '96 Daihatsu HiJet Climber. In Indiana, there is a special title/license for mini trucks, which are legal everywhere, except interstate highways. Not sure I want to run mine on a 70 MPH road with tons of semi-trailers trucks anyway. It crises at 65-70 just fine, unless there is a headwind. At these speeds, I can take my hands off the wheel and it runs completely strr\aight and steady. The lobby groups most against these trucks are the side by side folks who don't want this competition. For a much lower cost, I have a vehicle with a plow that I can run on the street, and has an enclosed cab with heat, and some have A/C.
Also some have selectable 4 wheel drive and some have tipping tray options also, remember !
On the Coast Guard base where I was stationed In the early 90s we had several tiny Daihatsu pickups They were fun to whip around.
You can actually buy surplus Kei trucks and vans from government auction sites along with Humvees.
I drove these, back in the 90's, when I was in the Coast Guard. These are hugely popular on military bases.
We've been importing KEI vehicles for almost 40 years now.
Where are the statistics documenting all the fatal accidents involving them. I'll be waiting
Same thing, wanted that question to be answered as well.
Shhhh, don't ask for the data. Accept the governments decisions blindly. Now go buy your base model, 75k, 22ft long, "small", American made pickup truck that can barely handle hauling basic items.
i own a 1995 suzuki kei van, the laws banning that there are absurd. my van can't get to 60mph. so that's a safety feature 😂😂
Also a reason to keep them off any interstate highways.
@@zmortis111 I don't think many would argue too seriously if the ban was simply interstates. Unfortunately it isn't.
30 years ago I drove a Suzuki Carry, 850 cc van (in the Netherlands). It was my first car and it was great.
The guy who I hired as mechanic was 2m and 10 cm's. That was a tall guy. When he had to test-drive my tiny van, designed for small people, he had to fold himself behind the wheel, and reach for the gear-shift under his knee, and could only set in in 2nd gear.
I drove my van on highways and got more comfortable with that over time. But when I went to a car-dump to get spare parts, I'd see the wrecks and was reminded of how a car without crumple-zone looks after an accident. It made me more aware after such a sighting, for a while.
I could transport anything with it, even an 8-person orchestra with instruments, including a contra-bass. I drove over 3000 kilometre on a holiday, and slept in the van, as a make-shift camper.
Beste feature: because it was so small I could always find a parking-spot in a crowded parking garage, in between pillars that other cars would not fit.
Seen from above it took up the same space as an original Mini Cooper, stationcar version.
My Suzuki Carry was the size as a couch and a bed, and it was a great car.
The EPA might even be among those lobbying against them, because of the stupid footprint rule.
Definitely are. It's all a scam.
Let’s be clear, this is a money grab by insurance companies and the big automakers. I have a Subaru Sambar ks4 registered in NY. Still fighting for my title here. I ride motorcycles as well. Can’t tell me one is safer than the other. Maybe they should ban 8000 lbs Teslas that can take out almost any other car and not these. You are telling me those 3 wheeled T-Rex’s or Polaris slingshots are safer than these? Let’s also make it clear it’s not discriminatory to just the trucks, but all Kei vehicles, at least that’s the case for NY. I have taken mine on the interstate and parkways with no issues. No safety or emissions standards should apply to any imported vehicle over 25 years old. That’s what my paperwork says from the federal government when I imported my truck and paid all appropriate taxes and duties. I’ll give the state my plates back when they refund me all my money aka they aren’t getting the plates back any time soon 😂
If you've already registered it, that's gonna be grandfathered in. I just wouldn't give my plates in lol.
The heaviest tesla is 6700lbs, lighter than a f250
You mention 3-wheelers; great analogy, manufacturers wanted to move on to 4 wheelers ( higher price) across the board since Honda had ( 3-wheeler) dimensions tied up in patents. Apparently there was an expiration date on the law but I have not seen the return of the 3whlr.
The new Ram pickup is 8800 lbs and the cybertruck is just under 7000. Trucks today are absolutely huge and unaffordable.
My hot rod brain is saying What would 1600cc of Gold Wing do for that
Hotter cam, turbo, pipes...
Hell even just a B series.
@@the_kombinatorIt's nice to start with a low output engine because anything mostly is an upgrade. Put an ej22 in it
people have done Hayabusa swaps.
It'd do great things.
If states were so concerned about safety, why aren't they banning motorcycles. Of course the reason why they are banning them has nothing to do with safety. It's more protectionist nonsense.
Psst..these aren’t new vehicles, so they’re not exactly employing protectionist economics here.
@@Queensizemusic no, but new kei trucks are also banned. wonder why (its not for environmental or safety reasons)
It might not be about safety for the driver but OTHER drivers. This thing is so slow it could cause people to rear end it or would cause people to drive unsafely in order to get around it. It's 0-60 time is stupidly slow. If I were stuck behind this thing on say a 45-60 mph road in a town, I'd take the risk of a ticket and drive on the shoulder/turning lane to get around it. I have things to do. This vehicle is ok for New York City where the speed limit is 25 mph (think they are trying to get it down to 20) but is simply not a reasonable vehicle for anywhere else in this country. Maybe Boston/Chicago.
@@Cruor34 that sounds like your problem, driving illegally and dangerously for no good reason. people drive 18 wheelers, tractors, and other equipment on roads all the time at speeds much lower than a kei truck. just slow down
@@zachb9856 Sounds like your problem that you drive slow. I'll just go around you, and the tractor and the truck.
I thought these little trucks were cool until I got stuck behind one on a 45 MPH road (so 50 to 55 MPH commuting for most drivers). This mini-truck couldn't keep up with traffic, and had people blocked for about a mile back during rush hour traffic.
Would you have tried to push past a motorcyclist who is entitled to the whole road surface in his lane....
just like the Kei truck?
Were there double no passing lines restricting ANYONE from overtaking ANY vehicle?
First, I do not live in USA. So Kei truck is illegal in Colorado, but if you are 18 or older you can ride motorcycle without helmet? Logical?
In my state (idaho) it's completely legal to ride a motorcycle on the freeway with no helmet on. Yet if I fail to buckle my seat belt I'll get a ticket here.
Trying to apply logic to our laws is pointless
@@violetsteele350it's all random nonsense that has piled up over decades, and no one is doing anything to stop the pileup
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow You do not understand the logic..... The logic is about protecting innocent bystanders when you can, not protecting the operator of the vehicle. So: Wearing no helmet only poses more risk to the rider, it does NOT increase risk to anyone else (like innocent bystanders - pedestrians on sidewalks).
Not wearing a seatbelt poses MORE RISK to innocent bystanders than if you wore a seatbelt. Because if you crash medium or higher speeds you'll likely be ejected flying out of the windshield or windows and could hit somebody, an innocent bystanders, a walking pedestrian on a sidewalk.
Obviously motorcycle riders flying off their bike can happen too, BUT that is considered "acceptable risk" BECAUSE there is NO OTHER POSSIBLE way to reasonably prevent that happening with a motorcycle, unlike cars where it CAN be easily & reasonably prevented. And obviously we do not want to ban motorcycles to prevent the operator from being ejected & hurting an innocent bystander as the overall risk of this happening has been deemed "acceptable risk", especially considering motorcycles are significantly less popular than cars.
TLDR: seatbelt laws are to protect innocent bystanders 1st & foremost, not to protect the driver. This is why no helmets are allowed on motorcycles, helmet or not, it does NOT change the risk of a motorcycle rider hurting an innocent bystander. And the odds of a innocent bystander being hit by an ejected motorcycle rider has been deemed an "acceptable risk" to continue allowing motorcycles on the road, especially supported by the fact motorcycles are significant less common the vehicles.
You usually cannot ride a motorcycle without a helmet in the US. You get fines and may even be banned from riding or even driving a car.
We need this truck or something like it for America ! The US pickup manufacturers are certainly behind some of the laws against these. It's a perfect Hone Depot or Lowe's runner ! I'd like to buy one myself !
Doesn't sound like land of the free at all.
hasn't been for a long time. When the Gov't says 'it's for your own good', you know we are getting screwed
Land of the coddled corporation.
Do any of you guys complaining consider people besides yourself? This thing is too slow for American roads. Nobody wants to sit behind you taking SIXTY seconds to get to 60 mph. Even 45 mph is like a 30-40 second wait. I'd say that's the reason, and slower cars like the Fiat they had just were overlooked. Id allow this thing in New York City and that's about it. You can not have this thing anywhere that has speed limits above 35-40 mph. It is too much of a hinderance to other drivers.
Land of the FEE
@@Cruor34then ban old people from driving. how about ban traffic and car accidents for causing people to move slow? just because the kei trucks are slow does not mean that that should just be banned.
I called last week and the El Paso county DMV says they are street legal and can be registered.
El Paso county is like one of the least insane counties in all of CO, maybe along with Weld. The idiocy of Denver and Boulder counties is spreading fast. Larimer is going downhill fast. Of course, get anywhere outside of the front range and things are a bit more sane.
Same exact reason why they put a hit piece on the Suzuki samurai.
They did not last long in the rust belt. BUT not a good idea to run them at Freeway speeds in the left lane. The engine was not made for that.
But they did do well in the snow while they lasted.
I've spent more than half my life traveling around in an Indonesian-built Suzuki Futura (a slightly larger Suzuki Carry with a bigger engine). Still not dead yet.
I drove a 1999 Matiz in Korea for 4 years, and in Canada for 9. I'm still here.
Dead people have trouble making comments on CZcams, I've found.
@@Andronicus2007 Found the F150 fan.
Truck OEM’s lobbying to ban competition. Gotta keep selling those $80k + trucks.
Is so BS, is the Lobby of Ford, GM, Stellantis etc are doing in the DMV.
Totally agree it makes no sense for K trucks to be illegal to register in the States when so many less safe vehicles are ok.
Especially the cars and truck that are 3 stars of less in safety on the roads too and are made in the states and also by the main 3 automakers and also some foreign automakers too!
And yet side by side and four wheelers with no license are permitted on roads where I live without inspection, insurance or restrictions on age.
here in NC they're allowing people to drive side by sides on the road. The "safety" argument is no longer valid when they allow those.
I'm in idaho and it's commonplace to see rich dummies cruising the main roads in their 30k side by sides. Gotta justify blowing that cash on it somehow I guess.
Kei trucks are legal in NC. Check out Mayberry Mini Trucks near Mt Airy, they are responsible for getting the law passed where they can be driven anywhere, yes, even the Interstate.
Saw one in front of a grocery shop in Chinatown NYC! Great way to get your wholesale produce from hunts point to Manhattan.
We can license and register them in the state of Texas. If i remember correctly, we just can't drive them on a road with a higher posted speed limit than 55mph because that's pretty much their max speed.
Same in Louisiana, allowed in highways that are 55 Mph or Less on the speed limit. Most Highways in Louisiana are such and can get you to major cites in Louisiana without being on the interstate and also they aren't allowed on highways with partial or no access to emergency vehicles or such.
How is it that I can drive a crazy fast motorcycle and be considered "safe", but driving a kei truck is considered dangerous. That makes no sense at all. Motorcycles do not have seat belts, kei trucks do...
These should be legal everywhere, except on the interstate highways. They are likely safer in a crash than a motorcycle. What if you obtained an out-of-state vehicle registration? Just saying...
Apparently registering the Truck in Montana is a popular option.
In my state you have to register them as a farm truck and you can't use them on an interstate or anywhere the posted speed is above 55 mph.
And you can guess why: Semi truck + Tiny Japanese truck = ☠
Duh they can’t even reach those speeds
@@slapshotjack9806 Max speeds: Daihatsu Hijet: 81 mph, Suzuki Carry: 75 mph, Subaru Sambar: 87 mph, but I would prefer to stay alive
@@MichaelOKeefe2009A semi truck vs a motorcycle is the same outcome.
@@MichaelOKeefe2009 semi + [insert smaller vehicle] = ☠
Ban anything smaller than a semi on the highway, too unsafe 🙅♂
indiana currently is legal with Mini Truck plates restricted to non-highway/interstate.
My ‘90 Suzuki “Super Multi Roof” has a/c, 4 wheel drive, if you hit the button, fuel injection and turbocharged. I put in a better stereo and ditched the Japanese a.m. radio. This little van is so much fun to drive around town. Here in Florida they are legal but you have to know which DMV to go to and who to see there to get it registered. I’ve had five people in it and still a lot of room for cargo. Insurance is cheap and it sips fuel. I won’t take it on the highway but if I did I suppose it would be….ok-ish. True, if I was hit by an Excursion they wouldn’t even find the ashes but with so much glass I can see one coming ahead of time to avoid it. I only wish we had a Suzuki mechanic around here.
About 15 years ago, when I was in Germany, the local municipality used these for yard work, garbage can cleanup, and general city works.
It was all the functionality of an F-150, in the form factor of a kubota side by side.
Are you sure they had these trucks? I would rather expect something like a Multicar. But I have to admit, Daihatsus were officially imported to Germany, so it is possible.
Kei is the Way!! You have the fun driving fast and not breaking the speed limit.
Lol!!! We all know why they are trying to ban it... because it means less profit for those produced in house.
In PA, they're either banned or about to be. An interesting thing is that a few companies that make off road side by sides think that these Kei trucks are a threat to their market. So if these trucks are a safety issue, how 'bout older cars like antique vehicles, model T's or model A's. They're just as bad with safety, you think? A friend of mine has a Honda Activ and loves it. Some models even have A/C and are super charged. They even make vans. Parts are very available. I've even seen some with left hand drive. Keep up the pressure to keep these Kei trucks legal!
@@slapshotjack9806 I've seen more model Ts than Kei trucks in the past year here. Maybe anecdotal experiences aren't an objective way to evaluate the reality of something.
@@slapshotjack9806 oh, I guess every vehicle from about 1990 and back should be illegal to drive on the highway then! You could get Kei trucks with airbags if only Mercedes hadn’t made it illegal to import a car less than 25 years old. You think 2024 model kei vehicles have no occupant safety?
@@slapshotjack9806 The fact that you can't believe that someone has a different experience than you tells me all I need to know about your intent to actually discuss something.
@@Fhwgads11 why do you have to spam me with your ridiculous responses any American car could flip a kei truck in an accident you’re just mad that you can’t drive your little fisher price toy on the road kid
@@slapshotjack9806 New cars and light trucks since 1998, sure. But you can still register and drive older vehicles without airbags with no problem, which I believe was the point in bringing up older vehicles.
We don't even have a small truck anymorw
Well. The highest amount of motor vehicle fatalities in the US occur in..................Silverados......
I would have thought Cadilac Escalade or modern big Chevy Suburban would have been biggest killer as drivers of vehicles are poor drivers.
@@caseysmith544 Bad drivers are not as dangerous as arrogant ones, which is what 90% of TRUGHCK owners are. Especially if they own a Ram.
@@ootdega Or own an Escalade as they are arrogant and/or too old where Cadilac was once a super Luxury brand but is more a mid level luxury brand on par with Lincoln or Lexus.
This is what too much government always does. It restricts what THEY don't want around and supports what will benefit them.
My friend has one that was sold in US but as an offroad/utility vehicle and spent its life at a water treatment plant. He just uses a LSV placard/triangle like tractors use and is in a rural part of Wisconsin that has roads marked for offroad motorcycles and ATV's. But it is another state that you cannot register a Kei vehicle for on road use generally... Now if you want spend a bit there are importers that have worked out with USDOT to get these imported Keis 50 state registerable and even sell nearly new ones around the 25 year rule somehow... I can't name any off the top of my head, but I've been on their websites...
Ahhh classic stupid Colorado laws. A beautiful state ruined by stupid politicians. But hey they voted for it.
no we didn't, for example we voted No on same sex marriage bill and they rammed it down our throats anyway. We've been hoodwinked with rigged elections too, to force liberal policies. Coloradans are not aligned with Denver weirdos and are actually down to Earth and conservative.
The same with GA!!
Colorado didn't vote for it, Denver did
It has been Californicated.
Oklahoma and Arkansas allows them.
Arkansas says they can't exceed speeds of 55 MPH, cannot be used on any highway that has a posted speed limit of 65 or higher, and cannot be placed on any limited access highway, or stretch of highway that has limited access.
Oklahoma says there is no set top speed for them, but they cannot be driven on any limited access highway, or stretch of limited access, and cannot be driven on turnpikes (which are limited access anyway, so that rule is redundant)
I did some looking into getting one since I live on state line in Oklahoma, but do all my errands in Arkansas, and at the time worked in Arkansas.
In many ways, this is a vehicle that you could cross shop with a 1500 truck. A lot of people just occasionally need a bed for errands around town. They end up daily driving a large truck in order to use the bed 5 times a yr.
Why buy a $60k truck when you could buy one of these and a $30k daily driver? These trucks can be used to get mulch, move boxes, pick up new appliances, deliver parts, etc.
It’s more protection than a motorcycle. And motorcycles don’t have seatbelts!
The fascination with these trucks is only because they aren’t here. If they were here no one would care about them and they wouldnt sell that many
Oh please read all the comments...
there are many here who are interested enough to watch this vid,
be fully and fairly informed...
and really really DO want one to drive around where they live....
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk John bot screen name says that watching a video = buying a car. Wheres my F40 from that Jay Lenos garage I just watched?
they are hot items on the Big Island of Hawaii.
they are a little underpowered for places that rely heavily on freeway traffic. top speed is something like 55 to 60 mph which makes them suitable for the Big Island because there is only one road that could be considered a freeway. most other roads are more like two lane highways.
They are cracking down on them because dealership owners love selling stupidly over priced trucks.
1970 to 1973, I owned 2, 1 Suzuki and 1 Honda. I was stationed in Japan at the time. I had a blast in both of those mini trucks. I wish I had one now.
3:02 it's not that it isn't relatively safe compared to older cars. It's that it doesn't meet the safety standards of the year it was built. THAT'S the catch!
Yeah but guess what, they're all on the roads so what does it matter?
It doesn't need to, vehicles more than 25 years old are exempt from those rules and that it set at a federal level, not by states.
I love the mini truck series. Keep up the fun guys nice work.
The fact that small trucks are illegal and the smart fortwo is legal is insane to me.
I love my 97 Acty, I can drive it to Lowe’s and then bring it home and drive it around the back yard and deliver the materials directly where I need them. It’s fun to drive, gets lots of smiles, and has been a good project vehicle to work on with my boys. I do not take mine on the interstate.
This one time a kei truck killed me. And punched my dog. Burned down my house. And spread rumors about me growing illegal plants in the backyard.
Dead men don't talk. I call B.S. And they weren't "rumors".. We've seen your backyard...
Snitches get stitches where is that Kei truck😡,,,,,,,,,,,,,🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@dirtyharry5320 I never said what kind of plant…
@@poppyneese1811 I believe he has left the country.
I agree, one time a Kei truck killed me and my entire family. Then it went and stole from the homeless, sold crack to children, and smoked some of the devils lettuce. They are completely out of hand. Thank you local and federal governments for keeping these terrible, immoral, devil worshiping Kei trucks off our streets!
Can’t get license plates? Bring them to Nevada. No one has license plates here 🤣
As kei vehicle owners and JDM enthusiasts, we need to band together and fight this on a country-wide level. We need big names helping us out to be taken more seriously. I would love to see TFL help take on this fight. Massachusetts just banned all JDM vehicles. Any JDM that doesn't have a 17-digit vin is in Jeopardy. We all need to fight!
crazy how these are seen as "dangerous" by the government yet the geo metro/suzuki swift is just fine
Really enjoying the Tommy and Kase drive old vehicles series!😂
The k pickup truck has a south dakota plate on must be legal in sd
They are legal in WA State. I know a guy who runs a landscaping business around Spokane, and he drives a white Honda Kei Truck identical to yours.
The little Truck is very popular in Europe.
If vou have to carry a sofa, or going camping this vehicles are great.
Or for a small business -- a Café, a boutique, that's perfect.
Great vídeo, Thank you
They are the new thing for sure. We have some in Miami. I went to the Hot Wheels show recently and saw the coolest one.
From what I’ve been able to determine K-trucks (also called Kei Trucks) are legal in all states EXCEPT Louisiana and Nebraska but most states require them to be licensed as an LSV (low speed vehicle) which is restricted to streets with speed limits of 35 mph or less.
Which makes them useless for their intended purpose, because most states have a default speed limit higher than that 55 is a pretty common default speed limit. There might be a few places where you can use an LSV on the roads, but in most places, you're going to have to go on at least a 45 MPH road to get to the grocery store or the hardware store. Kei vehicles are cars, not LSVs, LSVs are supposed to be stuff like 4x4s and golf carts, not 60+MPH capable fully enclosed vehicles with seatbelts and airbags.
@@bow-tiedengineer4453 That is all true. However, as stated in the video, K-trucks over a certain age are exempt as “historical vehicles”. Rather than discouraging people from buying them by saying they are illegal, people should be encouraged to buy them as a LSV now and convert them over as they get old enough. This will help the states to realize they are not the death traps they are made out to be and encourage them to change the laws concerning them.
@@bow-tiedengineer4453 for example in Summit County Ohio, other than interstates most roads have speed limits of 35 mph or less
Interesting, so you can import new Kei trucks as LSVs?
@@Voyajer. Yes, in Ohio they are considered LSVs and can be imported as such. And at least in Summit county most roads have speed limits of 35 or less so they would be road legal in most of the county.
The comparison of the Fiat & this K truck was perfect.
I had a 1985 Isuzu pup truck, 2.2 non-turbo diesel & 55 mph is all it will do, that Honda k truck is just as safe if not even safer than the Isuzu.
It's funny to watch Americans amazed by kei trucks while here in Brazil we had a officially imported truck/van called "Towner" since the 90's up to 2015 which are essentially kei trucks, same size. Made by Asia (Kia brand) and later by Hafei (chinese).
Back in the day was common to see the van version of the Towner being used as a Hot Dog stand.
That is total BS as Japanese Kei Cars, Vans and Trucks are way better than the massively oversized American Full Size SUV's, Vans, and Trucks.
Are you expecting to be taken seriously with that comment?
@@awesomeferret That's literally the reason that people are trying to ban them. There are modern trucks being made and sold in the US that are twice as big with the same bed space, an unnecessarily large V-8, and completely block your view so that you can't see pedestrians. These trucks also cost more that $20,000 USED, while a BRAND NEW Kei truck costs less than half that once all is said and done. These trucks are more efficient, compact, useful, and cheaper than an F-150 could ever hope to be.
TLDR: Shut the hell up.
@@cadetkohr5508 I can buy a used F-150 tomorrow morning with enough HP (from that mean old V8) to haul an entire mobile home with it's own space for my motorbikes & have a 8 foot bed for anything else I want AND I GET AIRBAGS, HIGHWAY SPEEDS, A/C & REAL SEATS NOT A REUSED BUS SEAT for $4,500, why would I want to spend months importing an even older slower uncomfortable utility vehicle?
Btw The only company still making Kei trucks is Suzuki, everyone else stopped making them because their only market (old farmers) stopped buying them, they all use tractors & ATVs.
Cyber trucks shouldn't be allowed on the roads either, imagine that metal truck hitting a pedestrian? But k trucks are illegal in most states smh
Thank you guys. I am also a fan of KEI cars and trucks. Agree, how can it be any worse than a motorcycle, a micro car like the Aveo, Sprint, or Metro.
Perspective: Chevy Spark 84hp, Scion iQ 94hp, Honda Insight 98hp (Motortrend Aug 4, 2012)
Kei truck is hated because of the chicken tax . Your supposed to buy from the American three
Chicken tax doesn't apply to any vehicles over 25 years old, so that's not that case.
Crazy Colorado, where Kei trucks are illegal for safety issues but drug use is OK
Cars and drugs are 2 totally different things
The main reason "Buy aMurican!", there are a bunch of lobbyists to be fed from the money you pay for a SUV like tank labeled as a "truck".
9:05 Case is wrong here. If people can get a cheap pickup for $5k that has all the utility they need on the 11 days of the year they need a pickup, they will absolutely consider eschewing a pricey Tacoma or F150 as a daily driver, thus hurting truck sales. The SxS mfgs I hadn't considered, but that's also a great point and they would also be looking at a certain segment of buyers choosing kei trucks over utility UTVs. Currently construction sites often use diesel SxS that are not road legal but I could see a segment of contractors wanting to have something that can legally cross public roads.
However overall I think mfgs are scared of regulations that make it easier for non-incumbents in any fashion.
They need to stop with the CAFE and other emissions regulations
Only if they're replaced with regulations that actually make sense instead of incentivizing the unending embiggening of cars.
When xenophobia meets protectionism, coming through the rye.
The problem with these in terms of emissions is that there are way more of these than there are VW buses or old 1960's sedans. Increasingly a lot of the older American cars are actually being exported, not solely because of foreign interest but because domestic interest has waned a bit because a lot of younger people, assuming they know how to drive, may simply view them as too extravagant to own, eve if they appreciate the cultural significance of such vehicles, and carbon monoxide emissions are so high that they far exceed even those from the likes of many small engines for offroad use.
Just last week, I bought a Chevy 3500 with a 12 foot bed, and a 454 engine to be a cargo truck for my business. Of course, I also drive to work in a 660cc Subaru Sambar van, which I occasionally do use for service calls and smaller deliveries... Both have a purpose, and do it rather well. I am annoyed that I can only drive the Subaru because it is over 25 years old, and it falls though a legal loophole, but, actually, the Chevy is 23 years old, so, well, my life is what it is.
My state JUST started an effort to ban them. Gotta keep selling those $100k giant trucks!
I feel like when your driving one of these KEI trucks in North America your only one F150 driver texting on the highway away from death.
Agreed, it's not these vehicles that make them unsafe it's being hit by oversized trucks that makes them unsafe.
If you hit deer in one of these you will be in trouble!
@@atodaso1668
Bingo PAL 🤷🏿♂️😩🙈
@@atodaso1668 not really as you won't be going fast enough also with much less weight than a normal truck there is less force involved in the impact just like the smart car crash tests
@@bamafan-in-OZ If you hit a deer the first thing the deer will make contact with is your windshield, the second thing will be your chest/head. Good luck.
They are popular in Japan because Japan does not have super highways. They are small, nimble and great gas mileage.
When this wind up putt putt gets slammed by a semi or a coach bus with your relative, you'll change your mind. Real fast.
Maybe import the EU system of allowing veachles...
Since there are two types of Regustration methodes:
Registration based on type (Typgenemigung)
Car manifacturers get the veachle tested and so on and the veachle type then gets a CoC certificate which gets issued to the car upon manifacture.
Registration based on onetime inspection (Einzelabnahme)
(This vaaries a lot by country but in Germany's case you have "Einzelabnahme nach § 21 StVZO" baseicly full veachle inspection which includes basicly everything (this does mean things like lights have to be converted on RHD veachles to LHD spec (im most cases only the low beam)))
Kei cars really aren't designed to be driven on rural American highways like this, but they're suitable for driving around cities and small towns. I think they're the more logical option in those environments. Easier to maneuver and park and less fuel-thirsty. I live in a city and occasionally see these kei vans driving around. I wish more people would drive tiny vehicles with under 100hp because they prove daily they're a danger to everyone around them driving anything more.