These Brake Pads Will Make You Ride FASTER!!!
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2020
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I wanted to test the different brake pads Shimano offers back to back to see how big a difference they could make. I have heard all sorts of theories about resin pads vs metallic pads. I have even heard of people running one of each in their brake callipers! I wanted to test it for myself and the results surprised me! It helps that I started out with the best brakes on the market!
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Love the content idea, it’s fresh and very useful. What I love more is your riding, committed, full gas and very precise. Excellent job, cheers RG!
Do I run metallic pads?
What do you run Jesse?
What a great video.
loving the videos remi! keep it up :)
Awesome edit !! Nice one Remi ! gotta love a good pro component test video
Love the quality of this video! Keep it up :)
I used to be stuck on semi metallic. Once I find something that dials in my style I tend to want only that thing and for the longest time I only used semi-metalic pads in my old tektro mech pull disc brakes. I live in the Calif desert east of San Diego and we don't get very much rain (0.5 in per year avg) so I don't worry about wet conditions. When it would get wet good luck stopping with those things. My new Vitus came with resin pads and xt brakes and I pretty much fell in love with them. I do alot of high speed/down hill stoppies and go thru pads like every 2 months. I ride 30 miles every day. But the resin hold up pretty consistent across the board, all conditions, all uses. Once in awhile I'll get an over or under bite from them but I think it's probably due to dust buildup or a rotor contaminant because it's usually just a one off and the bite settles back in to a consistent pull that I love.
Btw, Nice breathing regulation. People hear my breathing when I do videos and always have something to say about it. It's normal when your hauling ass to regulate your breathing to stay steady. I think alot of people hold their breath and hang on doing technical sections. That's why they don't look like you and me baby😁. I get the most out of riding at 50 and I credit my breathing techniques that I learned long ago in special forces. I don't do much of anything else in terms of working out and I've still got a 6 pack and pretty decent guns from just doing wheelies and stoppies. Good luck when your season starts again bud. Nice reel 😁👍😎
Thanks for doin this...also gnarly pace man
Great comparison video! I honestly haven't had a look at the pads on the new bike!
loved the video, want to see more of this testing content.thks!!!!
My comments for what they're worth. Firstly, in terms of how you conducted your test, I would suggest you need to get a proper bedding in routine sorted when you change pads and especially when you change compounds/materials.
Secondly, in terms of my experience between the two. Of course I'm not as fast as you but do race downhill in the UK. I find the resins heat up quicker (after they've cooled down between braking events) so I can get my braking done sooner and I can get off the brakes again as I don't have to wait for the metallic pads to heat back up again. I occasionally a metallic pad when there is more prolonged braking in Alpine decents, probably more like what you're doing in BC.
There's always a trade off, I don't agree that metallic pads provide more power than resin, they just provide more power when they're hot enough. At your pace on that much elevation change, they're definitely better suited. Maybe if you use bigger rotors and shed heat better, resin might be important.
Great content. Would love to see a video on suspension setup.
If you run no brakes, you will go insanely fast
Damn thats sick!! awesome laps. can't wait for the next one :). Now ALN has to push her YT Chanel too, so everyone of the Rocky Mountain EWS Team showing their skills
Great video and analysis
Im using sintered now and they break pretty good. In the basque country rains A LOT! and Resin pads wears out too quickly. Metallic are ok here too but they are noisy in wet
Great video! I just have one question did you use the older model resin pads H03A on the newest 2020 version of XTR brake calipers? The reason why I ask is because I can't find anyone that has XTR brake pads in stock and it appears to me that the older finned pads can fit. Thanks for your help.
Hey Remi. Subscribed!
What timing system are you using? It looks sweet!
I have a 2 piston shimano xt m8100 brake, to learn what wheelie pad fits, resin or metal. What shimano series to choose.
This is rad. As a bigger guy I always have preferred metallic pads, resin always seems to overheat on the steeps.
Maybe that's why my rotors are always so heated, even on the small 30 meters descends!!!!!
What rear shock are you running have a slayer also and want to swap
From coil to air
Hey man, a random question: how come that you use x2 instead of dhx2? Is the slayer not poppy enough with a coil or is there another mystery:)
Damn you're fast!
My summary is: Its situational and dependand how you ride:
I am a rear dominant brake rider and i go mostly 15-30min woods downhill tours with 70% dry and 30% wet conditions.
I think the best setup for me (Guide RSC front and rear 200mm) will be front Organic (to get the bite i need, when i brake with the front now and then) and Metallic for the rear (because i use rear brakes more often and for enduro braking (or wet condition safety brake) you need that power when the brake is heated up or wet).
I dont know if the front brake will get wet faster then the rear tho... because of the stuff spitting onto your bike when decending. That would negate the positive benefit of resin pads on the front.
Did you change rotors each time? It will change the way they function.
Were both pads bedded though? I think resin will not bite much until they are bedded.
Where are people finding XTR 4 piston pads ?
why dont you run resin pads at the back and metalic at front or half half for back brake?
Did you change out rotors as well? Shimano suggests you never you the same rotors with different pad material. After the pad is bedded in the brakes rely on a cohesion between the pad and pad material on the rotor to maximize bite.
I've tried the Shimano metallic pads, they had a better bite than resin, but they cracked eventually, now I use TRp semi-metallic pads, but I don't know which pads you use, maybe it's a secret?
currently using TRP Spyke mechanical brakes, but might try hydraulics again
It might cool to try mixing pad materials so one of the pads is resin and the other is metallic in the same brake. I believe this is something Minnaar does.
I have heard that too. Also an option that I should try! Too many options not enough time!
Hi u will be racing on slayer this season ?
Remi you going full pro CZcamsr? Nice production value... getting some Punter vibes (in a good way)
punter lives down the street from me. Punter vibes by proximity?
This will be a cool series over the next 3 months.
What watch is that you are wearing?
Its a free lap watch. Basically starts or stops the time when it comes in proximity with the pole I placed at the end of the track
The problem is that you run Shimano's on/off brakes😂 Thanks for the video and stay safe!
if you don't know how to use your fingers they might be on/off, right
What about using different pads between the front and rear? one avenue to explore 🤷🏼♂️
Definitely an infinite amount of possibilities! I think that Metallic in the front and Resin in the rear could be a good option though just because you are far more likely to break traction on the rear.
DirtyJane is the best track in town! So rowdy at speed , I love that chundery stuff❤️❤️OH and metallic pads rules 😉😂
One of my favourite tracks!
Shimano recommends swapping rotors, which makes perfectly sense if you think about it. Resin on rotors previously used with metallic will not work like intended.
Better also buy a new drive train and caliper while youre at it.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 i'd recommend you should also swap frame and fork
CZcams User only if your going from resin to metallic... no drivetrain issues should occur going the way round. But calipers? Yes, definitely.
Yep, you will not see the real effect without having a second set of rotors that have been beaded in for the resin pads. Running resin pads on a rotor coated in metallic compound will give a different result than running resin pads on a rotor coated in resin compound. But if you're looking for more power and better breaking feel then don't run Shimano brakes, virtually anything will give you better modulation but if you want that with more power look at Magura or Trickstuff.
@@paradox963 going metallic on a resin beaded rotor often results in polishing the rotor... because all the resin and grid fragments work like a polishing compounds. At the end there is less power and it’s even more likely to squeal.
Resin are quiet and do give more power to stop. You experienced the placebo effect!
ur underrated
Slowly but surely man!
Sram guy over here. Wh0 is Rezin?
Did you use different rotors for the resin pads?
I didn't. I wanted it to be as simple a swap as possible!
@@remithesemi the lack of resin material on your rotors is likely why you weren't getting enough bite
Do you notice a difference between finned vs non-finned pads Remi?
Sick🤘
I have sintered pads, never tried metallic how do they compare
I believe they are the same thing
they are the same
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Brakepads make you faster ? - I always though good brakepads make you slower ! :D - I personally like Resin-pads with 203mm Rotor on the front - and metallic pads with a 180mm on the rear. I dont know if this makes physical sense, but it feels very good for me
resin pads need to be worn in before riding obviously. (not sure if you did that but the fact that you felt they had less initial bite make me think you didnt) and you need to switch rotors or thoroughly clean your rotors with rubbing alcohol or brake cleaner before breaking in the new pads.
switching pads isn't as simple as just switching the pads.
Yes it is.
use ceramic mtx pads
Use TruckCo pads!
Ceramic pads no?
I had to watch this in 0.5 playback speed
it actually looks pretty normal in half speed lol
Removing your breaks will make your ride faster...😃😃😃🍗
Cool I didn’t know that better stooping power could make you faster.
Who knew!
есть такая поговорка. чем меньше тормозишь, тем быстрее едешь )))
For me it will always be metal, because putting new pads in every week or two just gets expensive.
Every week or two? Exaggerate much? Metallic pads definitely noisier than resin (with metal, as seen when actually looking at them), but they do last and not get overheated as easily. Change my mind, yo...............
@@bartsimpsonsonson im talking about riding a lot. Like, a lot more than most people. 10,000m of vertical in two weeks. And if its wet out, trust me, resin pads will be completely used up by two weeks. Oh, and as for noise, its usually a vibration somewhere else in the system. If everything is tight, metal pads are no noisier than resin. Unless its wet out, then all discs are gonna howl.
@@SnootchieBootchies27 No offense intended, just me running my mouth without all the facts. Plus, I believe the metallic pads would like wear down the rotor faster.
resin suck in the rain
No brakes will make you faster if you send it enough
Resin for me. Too slow to make use of metallic pads.
300th like!!!
like to see this test done in the wet
maybe one day!
Loved this. Myth busted.
This test is just...what?
run half half... :)
they dont work? lol....
Resin are the worst. #1 Sintered #2 Semi/ceramic ...Bros don't let other bros use resin....
remove your brake pad to go even faster.