What does it mean to play the inside part of the ball | How to play the inside bowling
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Watching this video, I now truly understand what is going on. I have always be taught to shake someone's hand at release. However, I noticed you speak on another video about making sure your thumb is facing the opposite wall and the elbow pointing to the hip at release. I found this to be true. I tried this at league last night. The ball literally explodes at the pocket and the consistency is there for sure. I have to practice this a lot. I had the tendency to struggle moving left to open up the lane a lot more. Thanks for the excellent explanation of these modern techniques..
You have that link of that video you mentioned about elbow and thumb position when release?
Exactly what you said is what I've learned and the results are the same definitely need to practice this because it feels weird at first
Brilliant !!
I’ve learned more in your hook videos and rev videos than when I ask my coach for help. Thank you so much for these
Very well done short video. I'll be paying more attention to this part of my game. Thank you, JR, for all of your tips!
Thanks JR Raymond. I've been bowling in the League and have taken some lessons but this is the first time someone showed me how to play the inside part of the ball to get more rotation which I've been wanting for so long. Thanks again, grateful and wish you continued success.
Thank you! I've been doing it wrong for YEARS! This video was exactly what I needed. Thank you for making this vid!
Great tip! And your hit the nail on the head when you said VIDEO. To practice this, one needs to have video. And thanks for the tip on the Wrist Restricter. I'll have to check that out.
Great Video. I watch most everyone's videos. This is best teaching of inside ball ever seen. My memory tells me of position of the clock. Don Johnson & etc.
thank you so much for this video JR, it was like you made this just for me. this is something i have been struggling with and just couldnt put a finger on why i struggled so much when i tried to move left. thanks again, keep up the great work
Any improvements now??
Thank you so much for your teachings. I look forward to your instructions.
Thank you for your generous, helpful suggestions and for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you for the tip! I tried it at League and my score greatly improved, I had at least 3 strikes in each game🎳🎳🎳
I actually never knew that. Thank you for the instructional video. I will definitely go try this today
So glad I came across his videos. When i started league bowling, I was just a person who bowled on occasion with only the basics that i learned in college for those extra credits. Anyway, started league bowling with the new hubby and his team and I was doing good with my own form and range of scores no lower than150/160 no higher than 210/215 just not always consistent. Well, all the so called tips from the "more experienced league bowlers" and the "don't do that but do this" had changed up my game tremendously over 2 years that I've bowled that i was constantly frustrated and I'm trying to get back to where i was with no luck. I'm all over the place with trying to do this and that and remember this and that to where i had to just quit for awhile.
So glad that I have come across JR's videos because he explains in detail so well and his videos are very precise in showing you what he's telling you. His vids have given me hope to get back in league and try and work in my form and really understand the things that others were trying to "teach."
Hoping to bring up my scores and maintain consistency with my game and get my form back.
One of your best videos with great explanations. Cheers
I have really difficult time trying to get my hand position in to out. I will try this drill.
Thank you Raymond. Your instructional videos are extremely helpful!
Thanks for the video JR!!
I needed this video! OMG, thank you!
Loved the video. Really helpful to see the motion and rotation for the swing to be successful. Just joined a league a month or so ago. Trying to improve as it's been years. Thankx for this 😀
Another well explained video. Thanks!
Great video! Very helpful
Great video. The slow mo really helps to show what you mean and how differently it rolls off your hand and down the lane.
Excellent tip!!!
Thanks a million
Best tutorials by far...quick, informative, and easy to comprehend...I bowled 6 games today...after not bowling for 2 years..this is litterally one of the only issues i had...but my low score was a 201, high 247..so im not complaining!..great content!
Thanks so much for your tips and tips and tricks
This video was very helpful I completely understand now. That would explain why my ball doesn't hook all the time. Because of how I always get my fingers to the outside part of the ball rather than rotating around it from the inside part of the ball it totally makes sense now and it's really been helping and I'm able to move left and hook the entire lane and it also picks up into a much better roll in the back end and more messengers thanks so much Raymond!!!
Great video! Light bulb went off when you demonstrated how to get your hand to the inside of the ball. All this time I was trying to do it with my wrist instead of my arm. Headed to the lanes to practice this. Thanks!
Great tip about the point of the elbow pointed towards the hip. I'll start using that one. Thanks, again, J R.
Real good and informative video!!
I finally understood this and applied during league bowling. This help me see why I was losing rotation especially in the third round. As I got tired my elbow was out without realizing it until I saw this video
Thanks for that Tip JR!
Wonderful tip for me! At least first time out after viewing video. Now for next week. Thanks.
Excellent tip!
Awesome as always
Thanks for this excellent tip.
This is very interesting. Previously, we were taught that it was okay outside the ball at release. Now, in modern bowling, this is mentioned quite a bit. I am seriously struggling with this. I used to always think this was difficult. Now, I get what it means. Pointing your elbow toward your hip and keeping it there takes a bit of strength. I appreciate this tip. Will try to practice this.
Wow. I was practicing by myself yesterday and I set up my phone behind me. It didn't feel like it but when played the video I saw myself playing the outside of the ball. Maybe I have always done this? I don't know. But now thanks to this video I will be working on this.
That's exactly what I figured out now when I bowl I consciously keep my elbow in because I kept going around the ball. This video is great it explained it .what I already learned the hard way after game after game.. great videos keep them coming I would definitely like to come down there and have you watch my release and help me.
Great advice
Very useful tips..👍👍👍
Thanks for the tip 👍
Great video Jr thank you
Good stuff thanks
Yep this is me for sure I always start way right cause I release it with my right hand to the right all the time.
Good advice as usual
Yeah amazing I am big fan of you keep it up 👍🏻
Great video! Now I need to leave work and see this in action.
Lol I just had this thought myself :)
Thank You JR!
Wow! Thankyou for explaining it! ITS THE ELBOW!!!
Love and learning from your vids. Please explain to me or the better yet the world what it means to get through the heads clean and what does mid lane control mean???? Thanks for the help
My comfort zone is outside up the back of the ball and I've done well. But I've always struggled when I had to move left take some speed off and get the ball to react. The outsides burn up so fast this yr my only option is to change balls and move inside. I always knew what i was trying to do but had limited success. For some reason watching this video and some slow motion pro releases it finally sunk in. I had a 300 and two 800s in the past month so TY JR.
Started playing the inside of the ball and the ball catches the lane so much better. Covering more boards and retaining more energy. The ball motion is also a lot more predictable.
Thanks will try to watch what I'm doing
Very similar to the over the top golf swing that we see in golf. Thanks for the tips!!
Thank u jr! Can you do an example of this but for left handers? Thanks again katie
Will try. I always need more revs after game 1
great thanks JR
thank you
thanks for this video. What should I do to correct , why is my ball hook early many times? Appreciate it very much for your response regarding this matter. Once again thank you in advance and more power to you!
Great video! I'm getting over a severely injured wrist from almost dying going over a cliff over a year ago. Have nerve issues where the ball's thumb hole edge is hitting the inside base of my thumb but my driller decreased my span by 1/8in which got rid of that a few days ago. Not sure if i can do this but will try.
Which glove are you talking about in this video ?
Thanks
One of the single hardest things in bowling to do here! Being able to change rev rate and rotation angle is probably the most versatile thing a bowler can do.
Gonna work on that tonight 👍🏻
I have a wrist positioner I have been using will this help me keep my hand the way you showing?
As always looking forward to trying this out! I take something away from all your vids
Do you have any drills to help keep the elbow inside towards the body? That's one thing I struggle with.
Have you made the video addressing the breaking down of the wrist you mentioned around the 3:37 mark? That is definitely my problem
JR, what I like best about you is your ability to make it clear and simple. You also tend to speak in whole sentences with a minimum of confusing stops and starts. Appreciate it!
Hey JR, is that the same as in your ball reviews when you say getting more hand on the ball?
I think have the issue with the wrist breaking. I have a very high track and on pin down balls I track over my thumb often. I not sure if it’s because I’m not clearing my thumb fast enough or because of my wrist position l.
Interesting, I must be playing from the inside a lot more than I think I am as I am trying to get moved more right. Even playing Pearls (Zen Pearl) on lanes that aren't even dried out, I still have to get too far left. I don't seem to have any problems hooking my ball and I am still maintaining about an 18mph ball speed. I am actually trying to get more up the back of the ball these days and decrease my axis rotation but maintain as high of rev rate as I can.
Can this be implemented for someone who uses 2 finger method? Which I don’t do the traditional 2 finger 2 hand style. I tuck my ball wrist curled back
Scary.... I was just talking with someone about this yesterday. Get out of my head JR :)
What if it starts from the outside during downswing then inside at the top of the swing and back to outside during release? Is this also optimal?
So how do I hold the ball to start to do this thanks.
link for the turbo wrist restrictor?
During my swing how do.i keep my hand like this?
Are there any drills for this, besides using the wrist restrictor? When I stay behind it rolls out flat and I can't seem to get that last second 'yo-yo'
When i try to do this. I will have a low back swing. And therefore no speed, ball hook from left to left gutter. But if i incresse my back swing. There will be no hook at all. Cant seem to catch it at the bottom with a higher seing. What can i do?
I have virtually no axis tilt. I’ve been bowling for about 20 years. I’m 29 now. I’ve always played the down and in approach. Carry I 185 average. Are there any drills I can do to increase axis tilt? How does it ‘’feel’’ at release to have a larger axis tilt? Thanks
Where did you find a 27 inch stirophom ball?
How do I play the inside part of the ball because every time I try to throw it I am throwing it almost like a back up ball
You just have to play the inside until the very last second then rotate around the ball from the inside
Tim Hurst told me that years ago. Thanks, Tim and thanks to you, J R.
This is the next thing I'm trying to develop in my two finger bowling swing. There are times when I nail it and then there are times where I flop.
when i used to bowl...the lanes were so dry...i always had to throw a kill shot...and i still over powered the lane at times...so playing the inside of the ball wouldnt work for me...unless i was converting the 7 pin spare...then i could stand in front of the 7 pin about the 2nd dot...throw the ball at the third arrow from the left...let the ball go out to about the 2 board on the right and itll come back and take out the 7 pin
JR , I am 68 years old I been bowling about 2.5 years of leauge bowling, this is the hardest for a lot of bowlers to do, is this the same as staying under the ball? and letting the ball do its own thing?
How do you gauge how much "turn" is enough??
What about 2 hander's?
Do you guys offer bowling lessons?
So should I have my thumb at 3:00 instead of 12:00?
I gotta remember this...
So how do you achieve this? When you pick up your ball in the setup, do you like twist/rotate your hand clockwise (right handed) at the start? I find doing this puts tension in my forearm so I’m not sure if that’s right.
Booze .. I am just recently getting the ball to hook. This video is one of the best I have seen. When I pick up the ball, I use both hands to lift it, then put my fingers in, then my thumb. It’s important to start with a relaxed thumb. To get more hook, after I am warmed up and hitting my target. I try to get my hand more under the ball, which seems to point my first finger down during the swing.
And as JR said, on the swing try to keep your elbow close to your hip. When the ball gets to the release point, it should pull your thumb out first. Your wrist will turn the ball counter clockwise, and your fingers will naturally pull the ball into a good rotation. And it takes lots of practice to get comfortable with this...if I squeeze my hand, my thumb gets stuck and pulls the ball to my left (am right handed).
Good luck!
Odd coincidence, I just started to understand this the other day and wondered why I never saw a video on it.
Ok...but WHEN do you let your wrist and hand go to release the ball?? I can keep my wrist bent like that all day, but I just wind up "throwing" the ball instead of rolling it....if I try to roll it by "hitting it on the down" then I wind up just dropping the ball.
When looking at your grip with the grips at 12 and thumb at 6. My track starts right of ring finger and flares over fingers and thumb hole. Never used to do that. Right handed. Completely lost. Any videos on that?
Either your ball is drilled incorrectly or ur jus trying too hard to create revs and rolling it over ur thumb hole instead
Having a hard time with my wrist breaking down low. Cant stay behind the ball.
3:38 Is what I’m currently struggling and experiencing with. For as long as I’ve know it to my hand turns into a suitcase like position after my backswing peaks and stays that way until release. My hand is behind the ball prior to that singular point, any advise on correcting it?
czcams.com/video/fr9lDk848-g/video.html along with what Mr Raymond is saying, this video could possibly help you, it helped me tremendously, hope it helps
JacquesAnthonyMusicTV Great link to that video...helped me quite a bit
How do u play inside the ball without the ball going behind your back?
Great analisys... Greetings from Mexico
Most house lanes are dry or spotty and you can't stay to the inside of the ball or you will end up with too much hook and missing the pocket and also missing spares. Big hook does not knock down pins.
Not sure what houses you're bowling in. Most houses have a puddle in the middle
@@Tenpindoctors I bowl at Bowlero in Commack, NY and oil is a luxury there and many houses on Long Island in Nassau and Suffolk County the lanes are spotty or dry or one week there is oil for the leagues and the next week is spotty or dry.
The PBA lane conditions are not like real life league bowling oil patterns