PATRIARCHAL CURSINGS
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2024
- We’re talking Mormon fortune-telling aka patriarchal blessings. And how, for many ex-Mormons, they were less of a blessing and more of a curse. I give a little patriarchal blessing 101, share about the significant way my blessing changed my life and then read and unpack listener submissions about the crazy things their blessings said.
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I’ll never forget this random girl I went to seminary with, SO different from me in so many ways, sharing what her blessing said (same patriarch probably back to back) and she shared lines VERBATIM from my own. It really upset me for the longest time. Now of course it all makes sense.
One thing I don't like about patriarchal blessings is how it can put people into boxes. My sister's mentions that writing is a talent that she should cultivate (and ofc use for the benefit of the church) so my parents always encouraged her to write. I also enjoy creative writing, but my parents never encouraged that and were even critical about my writing goals. I just got to the point where I stopped bringing it up to them because I could see the difference in how I was treated compared to my sister. In their minds my "gift" was art, so how dare I try and break outside of that box when it wasn't ordained by god. 🙄
Super fun thing to unpack with my nevermo therapist lol
My BYU roommate’s said she’d be mother to sonS and daughterS. She had 4 girls then 1 boy, then 3 girls then 1 boy. They did not want all those kids and certainly couldn’t afford them. Those s’s ruined her life.
@@DancingQueenie wow 😢 that's heartbreaking
I received mine just before I turned 16 and it mentioned that I would meet my future spouse in college. My senior year I started dating someone seriously and we talked about getting married but I always was haunted by my blessing and that I was “supposed to” marry someone from college. I just tried to push that part of my blessing aside since I was very happy with who I was dating. I ended up going to a semester of college after high school and I always made sure I was very stand offish with anyone that felt like was flirting with me lol. Long story short, my boyfriend and I both served missions and married each other afterwards. I still had the haunting feeling that I was marrying the “wrong”person even though I loved him and wanted to marry him. That feeling totally went away when we decided to leave the church 5 years ago.
Mine was a total disappointment. Giving up my patriarchal blessing when I resigned my membership was not a problem for me at all. Glad to see it go ✌️
Same here. Uploaded it to a log, attempting to show similarities with patriarchs.
You are definitely sharing your voice for goodness in the world, so thank you for that !
I found mine a year or so ago. After a quick read I laughed at how generic and uninspiring it was and threw it away.
I really loved my blessing. It was something I was sad about when I realized that if the church isn’t true, neither is that blessing. I felt at the time that it said some very specific things to me. I found confidence in some of its messages. I severely over-interpreted it at times and it did loom over my head. Like if I made one mistake I wouldn’t receive any of those blessings. Overall, it is one thing I feel was a net positive for me within my Mormon experience because it did serve as my first tool for manifesting positivity into my life.
Edit to add: I wanted to submit things regarding my blessing but I also felt anxiety surrounding sharing about it. Something I better think about and sit with I guess.
This was a discussion that I have been waiting for in the post Mormon community! My curse was really rough and really only talked about me not offing myself 🥵
Geez
I was blessed to learn about the life of the prophet Joseph Smith....I guess he was right lol oof.
Mine mentions hymn 27, he asked me to study it and told me it was super relevant in my life. It was poor wayfaring man of grief. A ton of my blessing was about having to be patient in my life… great…
My dear amazing TBM mother shared recently that she is pretty devastated that she's in her late sixties now and hasn't/can't fulfill some of her blessing. It makes me so mad at the church that these arbitrary, cut-and-paste, utterly meaningless words can cause her such anguish and make her feel she is somehow not good enough / not faithful enough, when she is the most faithful!
I went and got mine when I was 18 right before college because my parents insisted. They had gone to all 6 of my older siblings blessings, but I refused to let them come to mine. I was absolutely TERRIFIED that it would say I had to go on a mission (I already had a LOT of doubts) and they would try to force me to if it did. I was so anxious and filled with dread the whole time. The patriarch spoke to me for about an hour beforehand asking me all about what my talents were, my strengths, and what I wanted to do with my life. lo and behold all of the things I said I wanted to do made their way into the blessing lol and in almost the EXACT words that I just told the patriarch. He plagiarized my blessing from me hahaha 😂I knew I didn’t want kids and of course it told me I’d have MANY children and would faithfully serve my husband. Sick to my stomach. I still believed to some extent and it just felt in that moment that god really didn’t know me at all if this was what he wanted for me. But at least it didn’t say to go on a mission 🫡😂 a win is a win
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My mother's Patriarchal Blessing said she would have the priviledge of Living to see the Second Coming. It also told her she would have 6 children Born under the Covenant. She had medical problems and was only able to have 4 children.
She kept trying to get me to have more kids because those 2 children she didn't have needed to be born. I lost my organs and wasn't able to do that.
And my mother's medical difficulties took her life when she was quite young. She certainly didn't live to see the Second Coming.
i was told i was from the tribe of issachar, everyone i know is ephraim, but here i am. not sure why.
Did anyone else feel a thickness and heaviness when getting their patriarchal blessing. I felt something so bad enter the room and I could hardly breathe.
@@TheHubbabubbabubbleomg yesss I kinda forgot about that part of the experience, but now that you say that I remember it so clearly. It felt so weird and I wondered if the oil they put on your head was special and had a weird effect or even if it was an evil spirit trying to stop me in a moment of strong spirituality (like Joseph Smith before he saw God and Jesus🫠)
i’m grateful that i never got my blessing. i never had any interest tbh and no one ever bugged me about it. one less thing to have hang ups about. heavenly father knows i already had enough existential dread & anxiety disorders 😇
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I can tell my patriarch didn't find me attractive (convert, curvy, wasn't into makeup back then), because he goes back and forth on if I would meet a "worthy son of Zion" in this life or the next.... Like he was afraid of getting my hopes up. Even my ex-RM husband clocked it! 🙄🤣
I would be very curious to know if pretty girls get better horoscopes on average.
I got mine at the ripe age of 25, so I’d know if I was going to have kids or not. (I’ve always had a feeling I wouldn’t be able to have kids)
My ex in-laws judged me because I was from Manassa. They thought it must be because of my Greek heritage since I wasn’t born into the much holier British lineage.
MW - total aside - the family myth was that my MIL’s grandmother divorced her alcoholic husband which explains why she kept her maiden name and why we don’t know what her married name was. I nearly laughed out loud. Couldn’t be she had a baby “out of wedlock”. Gimme a break.
Wow such a damaging part of the religion. I read mine very frequently and analyzed it as truth. I think I need to really reflect on it now and try to process that. Maybe EMDR! 😅
Another great echo chamber session, keep at it, can’t wait for the next one.
It can’t be an “echo chamber” if only one person is talking.
@@Girlscamppodcast An echo chamber is "an environment where a person only encounters information or opinions that reflect and reinforce their own." The term is a metaphor based on an acoustic echo chamber, in which sounds reverberate in a hollow enclosure.
Like I said, can’t wait for the next one
I got mine at 16, so 20 years ago for me and I can confidently say that it was specific for me and many of the blessings promised have been fulfilled. The patriarch even answered a question I had in my mind coming in.. it wasn’t a generic ? Btw. And I had never talked to the guy or mention any of my deep thoughts with him when I met him. Maybe not Al patriarchs are created equal, but bc of that we shouldn’t loose Faith in Christ or his church, we are all imperfect individuals doing the best we can.
Well-known animator gave our kid PB. Happy to see kid Extremely Upset after they got it! Our kid was Adamant it wasn't theirs, as it was boiler plate Mormon BS- going on a mission yada yada. Instead of a mission, our kid graduated w/ BS in 2 yrs in #1Comp Sci program in the nation, finished their MS in Comp Sci & is working for FAANG Co earning $$6+ digits by age 20! Winning😂😂🤣🤣
I’m sorry your mom is disappointed in you. At least you have pot.