It amazes me how quickly they created the Northern Line Extension to service a new development for the rich, who are unlikely to catch the tube, and the Bakerloo Extension, to service the working class living south of E&C, has been waiting for the last 80 years.
It’s also down to the fact the property developers are stumping up the majority of the cost of the extension. Not that that makes it right just financially why it has happened
The Northern Line extension is mainly being financed with private money. If the extension is successful they have plans to connect it to Clapham Junction.
I love old stations...especially in the way that they can record history. Here in Chicago on one of our original Elevated rapid transit lines, there was one station that had a wooden platform twice as wide as any other on the system. The reason was that it had been a junction station for three branches off the main line at one time, but when one of them was closed, they simply extended the platform out over that branches track. But I'm rambling. I could do that for hours if someone doesn't stop me. Thanks for a fun video.
There are heaps in Australia, specifically Victoria. They assumed that every town would discover gold or become large so pretty much every town even small ones then they closed most for them. Quite sad imo.
There was a third station just 300 yards from Battersea Park Station called Battersea Park ROAD Station, opened in 1867 and closed in 1916. It's right next to the Dog's Home and is marked by ornate brickwork around two of the arches. From the road its position was marked only by three mysterious rusty red doors but the arches have recently been renovated for office space as part of the Battersea/Nine Elms redevelopment. Having disappeared so long ago its existence is almost completely forgotten.
If it the Overground gets developed then the future's orange. It's a nice coincidence to see this video because Giles Gilbert Scott just turned 140 a couple of days ago. He designed Battersea Power Station, the red telephone box and also Liverpool Cathedral amongst everything else listed in that day's google doodle. More videos please. They're just the right length with just the right amount of info just nicely explained.
Throughout this great video, all I kept thinking was about how the woodwork everywhere just needed the following... 1/ a quick light scratch with a finer sandpaper 2/ a quick wash with a rag with white spirit on it 3/ a quick wipe over with a barely damp rag 4/ a cursory wash of under coat applied with an inch brush to get in all the cracks 5/ a final, more careful coat of good, old fashioned exterior gloss. Of course, I'm only speaking for myself here
I live in America. I have no idea what half of this is. I don't know where any of these places are. But this is still some of the best CZcams content I've ever seen.
Queen’s Town Road was my commuter station for 9 months or so when I was based in an office in a railway arch just south of the station. I was working for Railtrack at the time and have very happy memories of that job, the office and that bit of London.
Two stations that I’ve ‘zoomed’ through - good to take a closer look... You say that Queenstown Road only gets served by stopping services - but of course, if they didn’t stop, they wouldn’t serve it 😆
The same thought crossed my mind too. I started to envisage a new boarding/alighting system based on the old mailbag transfer thingy used by the old Royal Mail trains.
I used to live in this area and was the first aider at the accident at Battersea Park when a train went by with a door open and smashed all the windows in my train. This was in the 1960s. Many were covered in glass. Hence the locks on train doors now.
I remember still having slam doors you could open from the inside of the carriage on my journeys to school on the Portsmouth direct line in the early 2000s. And being school children it wasn't all that unusual for someone to accidently open one of these doors in transit, scaring the other passengers into wanting to pull the emergency cords. Being slightly older and hopefully wiser, I can look back and understand just how dangerous this all was but at the time it was just one of those things and was seen as nothing more than an inconvenience. We never could understand why they still used these carriages with such obvious safety flaws. I know these doors could be locked by a guard and that caught us out on one occasion. Going back to the rear carriage (to save time exiting at petersfield) we found on our arrival that all the doors in that carriage had been locked... We had to hurriedly climb out the door windows... Fun times!
My second favorite thing to-do in the 90's was to watch commuters on slam door stock opening the doors as the train pulled into a station (usually around 20-30mph) and hoping that the first guy will jump off too soon going arse-over-tit. Seconded only to jumping off the train myself in such a manner, much fun.
@@ED3Nize these internal handles were only present on stock that had restricted drop light openings. They were removed from loco-hauled stock and EMUs with fully opening drop lights after a child opened a door using the internal handle at speed and was killed. I'm of an age when I can remember these of the doors of the first generation DMUs,; I could never get them to work.
I was on a train with slam-doors, someone got on and didn't shut the door properly and a bit further on the door was sucked off by a passing train and it went spinning between the two until it hit the window where I was sitting showering me with glass, the train then was stopped in the middle of nowhere (West Horndon) where I was taken to hospital. Really shook me up.
It’s a privilege to start the day stateside by watching your handiwork. Keep the great work coming. Selfishly, I would love to see more vids from this area. There’s something really captivating about following the labyrinth of crisscrossing lines and junctions south of River on a map while the video unfolds. I’m probably highly biased from many an enjoyable ride on slam doors while going to visit friends in Canterbury back in the 80s and early 2000s. It’s not quite the same with the Javelin.
You should show the ticket hall @ Battersea Park Stn. It's breathtakingly gorgeous & gives a sense of the grandeur the Victorians were aiming for when the station first opened. Personally I think there needs to be a sense of grandeur injected into many of the perfunctory ticket offices around the country. In the same way that a company building & entrance sets the tone for the rest of the company, the same can be said for a ticket office/ station entrance. Battersea was certainly grand because of the park, which is reflected in the apartment buildings facing the park.
Queenstown Road gives off similar vibes to St. Johns station just before Lewisham. It also has an island platform despite being on a busy mainline and I think it also had a limited service until the redevelopment of London Bridge. Kind funny that.
As a newly minted Civil Engineering graduate I used Queenstown Road every weekday morning and evening for 18 months 1976 - 1977 to go to and from work in Waterloo. It was not exactly salubrious then and neither were most of the ageing 4SUB EMUs plying their trade between Waterloo and the suburbs.
@@AtheistOrphan Shall I tell you what one late (well) two , rider did in a corridor(side) stock compartment - and it was in first class, the only complaint was they were smoking as well in a non-smoking one)- All the way to Chessington South Too.
So good to see my hometown of Battersea in this brilliant video. Many fond memories of using these stations and walking past them! Very informative - keep up the great work 👍
At 1:05 "It's only served by stopping services." That's a relief. I've got visions of passengers being hung out of the doors on hooks, with large nets on the platforms, much like the TPO trains of old.
With the old slam door trains you could get on/off whilst the train was moving (closing into a stop. There were signs telling you not to alight before the train had stopped, but none telling you not to _board_ before the train stopped...)
Another excellent video, and as a side note, the line to Wandsworth Road lost its connection to the Brighton Main Line when the platforms at Battersea Park were extended to accommodate 12 car trains
The 'pew-like seat' at Battersea Park Station is called a settle, popular in the 18th and 19th centuries. There were long curved ones used in houses and pubs and put around open fires to keep the heat in for those who were able to muscle their way in, the intimidated folk freezing elsewhere in the room! I suppose that the one on the platform might protect sitting passengers from unpleasant draughts more that the standard lattice-seated bench.
I love scruffy South London: long may it remain so (though it's getting more up itself every day). I first visited Battersea Park station as a ten year old en route to the Pleasure Gardens/ Funfair: we only travelled one stop from Wandsworth Road but that was an experience. It was old-fashioned even then, the little green two-car EMU that served the South London line every half an hour; such a contrast with the Tube.
Thanks for uploading. I really enjoy your vids as I love history. They always transport me back to a forgotten time. Governments, railway companies, private companies should really should make more efforts to preserve, restore and even re-open these stations and anything else that is part of our history.
Queen's Road,was on the LSWR's,Richmond Roundabout service(both ways),and was always a local operation! It operated as clockwise,and anti-clockwise,and was on an even interval timetable. The Southern,just maintained what the LSWR,did with steam! The LBSC,not to be outdone,was using a similar type service! There was a 1909,Employees timetable book,reproduction,and the extent of LSWR services,was awesome,and with no electric operations! If you can find it,you'll find it a fascinating read! Check out Ian Allan,and other publishers,for further information! As usual,Jago,a beautiful 📹 video,and that LBSC station is a gem! Thanks again,for your tenacity,and racking up the mileage!! 🚂🚇🚉😇😀😇😀👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for your new report about these two smaller overground stations Queenstown Road and Battersea Park. I love your video clips very much, looking to Britain and London in special from Germany. Best wishes to you, stay healthy and bye. Günter.
I remember standing on the wooden platform 1 as a child after playing in Battersea park going home to Wandsworth road the line was vic to London Bridge loop and a school friends dad was the station manager at Wandsworth rd in the 1960s his house was just off the platform
Alighted opposite that abandoned platform, in the Summer, and it has a uniquely desolate aura all its own. Felt like instead of jollies at the nearby park I was Michael Caine getting off the train to avenge my dead brother done in by the Newcastle mob.
A couple of years ago I travelled via Queenstown Road station and the ticket office in the entrance had been lovingly converted into coffee shop. You could sit and enjoy your hot drink at the ticket counter while watching other travellers through the “ticket window”. A few of the original ticket office features had been kept which made for a nice atmosphere while waiting 25 minutes for your next train to Waterloo.
Jago, I have minimal interest in trains/the tube outside of design and architectural history. But your channel is so well put together, and so interesting, I watch everything you do on the day it comes out. Many thanks, you're one of my favourite channels on here.
I am always fascinated by the Vauxhall milk platform where much of London's milk was siphoned off at purpose built spigots there and was a very industrious operation running all day and night. Much of the traffic for that was assembled locally here at Templecombe sorting yard having been worked up from the S&D for onwards journey to Vauxhall. Don't visit Templecombe as its tragic how that massive freight and passenger operational junction has ended up a seedy single line a shadow of its former importance. Viewers of the Professionals and the Sweeney would have recognised the old nearby National Carriers freight station which was the South London version of Bishopsgate Goods Depot, operating 24/7 distributing and collecting much of central and South London's freight and often visited in its dereliction by TV companies although it was still in operation when the Sweeney shoots were done but very run down. I remember the cross track signal box at Battersea Park, very rambleshack and was such a shame it was torn down with little ceremony :*(
Several times I’ve been on an overground train to Clapham Junction that had to get redirected to Battersea Park. I’ve seen many disgruntled passengers step out onto the platform wondering where the hell they are. The trouble is you really need to listen out hard for the change in destination. The driver won’t always announce it, leaving that to the automated message which doesn’t sound any different. So if you are chatting to someone, on the phone or have your headphones on listening to music you can easily miss the change. The station is far enough from Clapham Junction that its not a trivial walk (having done it myself) and there never seems to be an attempt by TFL to offer alternative arrangements to Clapham Junction. You’re left to fend for yourself, bus, taxi, walk, wait for a train...somewhere. Great video as always!
I recently travelled on the 06.33 “parliamentary “ service from Batt Pk to Dalston Junction (prompted by a video by Mr Marshall) . I’m a major student of the LBSCR South London Line, the “Elevated Railway.” And yes those steps down from pl 3&4 are rickety!! I
I seem to recall that when it was just Queen Road, the (Battersea) suffix was used to avoid confusion with Queens Road (Peckham). It appeared as Queens Road (Battersea) on the Southern Region green totems, and tickets of course.
This is such a wonderful channel. My newest favorite. I live outside NYC in America and these videos are helping me through the lack of travel during the pandemic.
I've now visited Battersea Park dozens of times. First time I was on an Overground train that got diverted there, we all got off. Now we all tell people to stay on and cross the platform instead. And I went there once and the trains from Victoria were stuffed up (at the same time London Overground was stuffed up) so ended up walking to Queenstown Road and getting a train to Putney. Those horrid staircases do need to go from Battersea Park, as they are a death trap.
3:28 Trademark Jago bouncing walk shot... But with a twist! Love it. Also, compare and contrast the bench at 3:13 with the manky modern thing at 4:41. I know which I'd rather sit upon.
There used to be SouthEastern services through Battersea Park into Kent, until the island platform was extended for longer Southern trains, cutting off the line on the other platform into/from Victoria.
I watched the 60s film 'Up The Junction' recently, starring a young Dennis Waterman, and was shocked to find out it was all about Battersea and not Clapham!
I arrived at Battersea Power Station station to experience the Northern line extension, went for a long (enjoyable) walk in Battersea Park, and then got lost trying to find either Queenstown Road station or Battersea Park station for my return into Central London - despite the helpful maps in the streets you get in London. I did eventually find Battersea Park station. Two stations down, one to go.
Would go past Queenstown Road going from Barnes into Vauxhall travelling from uni to work. I loved the abandoned platform because right behind it is a brand new luxury apartment complex and I loved the dichotomy
I have only had occasion to use Queenstown Road once, and found it very alarming as the platforms were so narrow! As for Battersea Park, back in the day it was on the South London Line from Victoria to London Bridge, most of which is now used by the Overground and the (very useful for me) service from Victoria has been abandoned. I do remember occasionally changing at Battersea Park, for reasons which now escape me, and back then, the platform where the South London Line stopped was an extremely rickety timber one - you would have loved it!
Change a Battersea Park, we were turfed out their once because of a line blockage somewhere, I think I wanted Earlsfield but had to go to Clapham High Street then tooting (actually an 156 and change at wandsworth could have been quicker , At one time the 44 used to run past Battersea Park station but it was re-routed away on the north side of the thames instead .
I think though I may be wrong that the "Battersea" addendum was originally added prior to the renaming to Queenstown Road to avoid confusion with Queens Road in Peckham... Certainly my father was once offered a ticket to Queens Road Battersea before the renaming when he wanted one to the Peckham station.
@@JagoHazzard Is that another apostrophe differential too. I read that many london street names were amended in WW1 to assist with deliveries by reducing similar names, though there remain plenty of Queens's Roads about.
I have a clear memory of Nunhead station having wooden platforms. I’d like to think they’re still there, just covered in a very thick layer of tarmac? Love you channel! 👍
Indeed: Battersea Power Station Station :) Can't wait to see which diction becomes popular usage when differentiating from the power station zone itself. Bit of a mouthful. Great vid.
From the mid-1980s, I occasionally alighted at one or other of these stations when returning from a Denmark St shopping spree to my sister-in-law's place on Queenstown Road. I would get to Victoria and then see what trains were available. As the years have gone by, fewer and fewer trains seem to stop at either station, and I end up going to Clapham Junction and catching a bus (or walking) instead. Shame.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the now closed Battersea Park Road station, that was pretty much next door to Battersea Park station, but on a different line! Some street level evidence of the station still remains. I only found out fairly recently that Queenstown Road used to be called Queens Road. Growing up in the area, I always knew it as Queenstown Road, and thought when my dad's generation referred to it as Queens Road they were doing so for brevity, or just out of sheer laziness! But in reality they were just using the name that it used to have in their formative years. A video on Battersea Station would also be good, not that there's much of it left to be seen! Oh, and while you're in the area, wander up the High Street and get a few shots of my old school, no longer the comprehensive that I attended, but now the educational establishment of a potential king of England! Much obliged 😊
Obviously you are certainly an authority on the railways and streets of our capitol and your videos tough the inner nerd in me like no other. This is why, as a native of York, with its rich rail history, I wondered if after this lockdown is over you would ever consider a video on the city. Maybe a small tour of the railway museum, a staple of yorks history and culture or even an overview of the rail barrons of York like George leeman. Just a though. Keep up the good work sir, ill be watching closely either way.
I'm an American who has only ever been to Heathrow. Never ridden the Tube. Don't know if I ever will. But I enjoy your channel and droll humour so much.
I’d love to see a video about the stations, past and present, in Brixton. I’m particularly fascinated by the disused northern platforms a at Brixton and the disappeared western platforms at Loughborough Junction, as well as the lost East Brixton station. I am no rail engineer so I have no idea what obstacles there might be to opening up the disused platforms at Brixton - but surely easier than building a station on the viaduct above? (As has been proposed to provide a connection with the Overground). I believe the last passenger trains to use the western curve at Loughborough Junction were in 1929, running from Wimbledon to Ludgate Hill via what is now the approach to Thameslink. Many thanks for your hugely interesting and entertaining videos which I watch keenly. This episode is a particular favourite! Thanks, old bean!
Random fact. The Russian word for a railway station is Вокзала, which sounds like 'Vargsahl'. Rumuour has it that when the Russian rail network was being planned, they visited Vauxhall station and were so impressed with it, that all stations are modelled on it and named after it!
I do wish that people wouldn't use the American non-word "signage" and use the proper British term, "Signing" or "signs". Queens Road was re-named Queenstown Road to avoid confusion with Queens Road station in Peckham and about the same time Clapham was changed to Clapham High Street to avoid confusion with Clapham Junction and Clapham Yorkshire.
You don't want to use words invented by Americans? In that case, you probably ought to know that this website was invented by Americans, the network you use to talk to it was invented by Americans, and the transistors that power your computer were invented by Americans. So I guess you'll be leaving now?
Thanks for this video. It's nice tgat these stations still have features from the pre- Grouping era. I could be wrong, but I think Battersea Park used to be called Battersea Park Junction. I remember getting out there on a trainspotting trip to London in the early 70s. We stayed on the platform for half an hour, then went on to Clapham Junction.
I remember this stop it was handy for some of my colleagues who worked with me on the old prince of Wales redevelopment next door PS if your into quirky history involving iron work and wood wooden platform covers take a look at the Grange Hill Chigwell loop of the central line it original was a rail line spur east of Milford that was incorporated into a pre-war plan to be brought into the underground and the tunnel from Leytonstone to Hainault was converted into a was time underground factory
Very interesting as always, I always wondered why Queens Road became Queenstown Road. The high-backed seat reminded me of Barons Court (see recent Jago video). I had forgotten about the "South London Line" (Victoria-London Bridge), 100 years ago very busy, but killed by bus, tram and tube competition. Not sure if it would provide a useful journey option now but at least the tracks are still there if needed.
Well, if this channel wasn't a bloody great find I don't know! Stumbled across it yesterday while out burning and pillaging on CZcams, as we all we Norsemen like to entertain ourselves during the Big Sniffles....oh how I miss the sound of swords and axes! Anyhoo, great channel and most enjoyable videos! All Hail LMS....! Greetings from a Swede in Glasgow! 🍻
@@JagoHazzard You better believe I am, I'm stil watching all your Tales from the Tube videos, absolutely love them, very interesting to say the least! Huge railfan myself, steam in particular.... Looking forward to seeing what you'll stir together in the future Squire! 🍻
1:03 "It's only served by stopping services". Unlike East Croydon, where they use a Royal-Mail-like net for picking up standard class passengers.
I love this channel so much
Same... I don't even live in the UK 😂
Yeah
Same
Me too
Same, I feel like this channel caters to questions that I have wondered about London that I have never felt comfortable asking in public.
"Only a fool will try and walk down the stairs while filming." 😂 😂 Making that statement while filming and walking down the stairs. 😂 😂 😂
It amazes me how quickly they created the Northern Line Extension to service a new development for the rich, who are unlikely to catch the tube, and the Bakerloo Extension, to service the working class living south of E&C, has been waiting for the last 80 years.
Yes but the rich people need a way to get the poor people into serve them
It’s also down to the fact the property developers are stumping up the majority of the cost of the extension. Not that that makes it right just financially why it has happened
@@GWJUK I can hear the tutt-tuttng as I type, but hey, that IS a tasty kahuna burger (ie. you do have a point...)
The Northern Line extension is mainly being financed with private money. If the extension is successful they have plans to connect it to Clapham Junction.
@@MATTY110981 Well that's alright then.
Hoy poloy Central here we come!
I love old stations...especially in the way that they can record history. Here in Chicago on one of our original Elevated rapid transit lines, there was one station that had a wooden platform twice as wide as any other on the system. The reason was that it had been a junction station for three branches off the main line at one time, but when one of them was closed, they simply extended the platform out over that branches track. But I'm rambling. I could do that for hours if someone doesn't stop me. Thanks for a fun video.
You’re most welcome!
Oh, I think most of us here are quite happy about rambling on; otherwise we wouldn't be here, would we? Come back and ramble some more.
@@JagoHazzard OK I put my clock back 1 hour. How do you manage 4 weeks?
There are heaps in Australia, specifically Victoria. They assumed that every town would discover gold or become large so pretty much every town even small ones then they closed most for them. Quite sad imo.
There was a third station just 300 yards from Battersea Park Station called Battersea Park ROAD Station, opened in 1867 and closed in 1916. It's right next to the Dog's Home and is marked by ornate brickwork around two of the arches. From the road its position was marked only by three mysterious rusty red doors but the arches have recently been renovated for office space as part of the Battersea/Nine Elms redevelopment. Having disappeared so long ago its existence is almost completely forgotten.
If it the Overground gets developed then the future's orange. It's a nice coincidence to see this video because Giles Gilbert Scott just turned 140 a couple of days ago. He designed Battersea Power Station, the red telephone box and also Liverpool Cathedral amongst everything else listed in that day's google doodle.
More videos please. They're just the right length with just the right amount of info just nicely explained.
This is a superb channel , much needed during these Covid times . The narration is great as well .
Throughout this great video, all I kept thinking was about how the woodwork everywhere just needed the following...
1/ a quick light scratch with a finer sandpaper
2/ a quick wash with a rag with white spirit on it
3/ a quick wipe over with a barely damp rag
4/ a cursory wash of under coat applied with an inch brush to get in all the cracks
5/ a final, more careful coat of good, old fashioned exterior gloss.
Of course, I'm only speaking for myself here
Looking forward to the Battersea Power Station Station video in 2021.
I live in America. I have no idea what half of this is. I don't know where any of these places are. But this is still some of the best CZcams content I've ever seen.
Thanks!
Nether to half the people who live in london !
Queen’s Town Road was my commuter station for 9 months or so when I was based in an office in a railway arch just south of the station. I was working for Railtrack at the time and have very happy memories of that job, the office and that bit of London.
Thank goodness for people like yourself. You preserve little pieces of history & present them in a very nice way. Glad I stumbled across your channel.
Two stations that I’ve ‘zoomed’ through - good to take a closer look...
You say that Queenstown Road only gets served by stopping services - but of course, if they didn’t stop, they wouldn’t serve it 😆
The same thought crossed my mind too. I started to envisage a new boarding/alighting system based on the old mailbag transfer thingy used by the old Royal Mail trains.
+1 lol
@@cargy930 Golly Gosh, between you two; you have suggested a fabulous new thrill ride. Something to really make Battersea Swing!
@@TheHardlove4u It'll never replace the old funfair though!
@@cargy930 i suppose that would be better than my thought of having the station on rails and moving it with the train.
I used to live in this area and was the first aider at the accident at Battersea Park when a train went by with a door open and smashed all the windows in my train. This was in the 1960s. Many were covered in glass. Hence the locks on train doors now.
Those locks on the slam door stock didn't come about until the closing years of the last century
I remember still having slam doors you could open from the inside of the carriage on my journeys to school on the Portsmouth direct line in the early 2000s. And being school children it wasn't all that unusual for someone to accidently open one of these doors in transit, scaring the other passengers into wanting to pull the emergency cords. Being slightly older and hopefully wiser, I can look back and understand just how dangerous this all was but at the time it was just one of those things and was seen as nothing more than an inconvenience. We never could understand why they still used these carriages with such obvious safety flaws.
I know these doors could be locked by a guard and that caught us out on one occasion. Going back to the rear carriage (to save time exiting at petersfield) we found on our arrival that all the doors in that carriage had been locked... We had to hurriedly climb out the door windows... Fun times!
My second favorite thing to-do in the 90's was to watch commuters on slam door stock opening the doors as the train pulled into a station (usually around 20-30mph) and hoping that the first guy will jump off too soon going arse-over-tit. Seconded only to jumping off the train myself in such a manner, much fun.
@@ED3Nize these internal handles were only present on stock that had restricted drop light openings. They were removed from loco-hauled stock and EMUs with fully opening drop lights after a child opened a door using the internal handle at speed and was killed. I'm of an age when I can remember these of the doors of the first generation DMUs,; I could never get them to work.
I was on a train with slam-doors, someone got on and didn't shut the door properly and a bit further on the door was sucked off by a passing train and it went spinning between the two until it hit the window where I was sitting showering me with glass, the train then was stopped in the middle of nowhere (West Horndon) where I was taken to hospital. Really shook me up.
It’s a privilege to start the day stateside by watching your handiwork. Keep the great work coming. Selfishly, I would love to see more vids from this area. There’s something really captivating about following the labyrinth of crisscrossing lines and junctions south of River on a map while the video unfolds. I’m probably highly biased from many an enjoyable ride on slam doors while going to visit friends in Canterbury back in the 80s and early 2000s. It’s not quite the same with the Javelin.
Many thanks! Once lockdown is lifted, I’d like to look around here a bit more.
You should show the ticket hall @ Battersea Park Stn. It's breathtakingly gorgeous & gives a sense of the grandeur the Victorians were aiming for when the station first opened. Personally I think there needs to be a sense of grandeur injected into many of the perfunctory ticket offices around the country. In the same way that a company building & entrance sets the tone for the rest of the company, the same can be said for a ticket office/ station entrance. Battersea was certainly grand because of the park, which is reflected in the apartment buildings facing the park.
3:24 Sunny in Britain! Can't have that.
It's because of Covid. 😜
Queenstown Road gives off similar vibes to St. Johns station just before Lewisham. It also has an island platform despite being on a busy mainline and I think it also had a limited service until the redevelopment of London Bridge. Kind funny that.
As a newly minted Civil Engineering graduate I used Queenstown Road every weekday morning and evening for 18 months 1976 - 1977 to go to and from work in Waterloo. It was not exactly salubrious then and neither were most of the ageing 4SUB EMUs plying their trade between Waterloo and the suburbs.
Fond memories of the 4subs and their bouncy full width compartments.
@@AtheistOrphan Shall I tell you what one late (well) two , rider did in a corridor(side) stock compartment - and it was in first class, the only complaint was they were smoking as well in a non-smoking one)- All the way to Chessington South Too.
So good to see my hometown of Battersea in this brilliant video. Many fond memories of using these stations and walking past them! Very informative - keep up the great work 👍
I used to go from East Brixton Station (long closed) to Battersea Park Station for the Easter Parade every year.
I do wish they would reopen East Brixton - or the platforms at Loughborough Junction - as it would make a much-needed radial transport link.
@@AnnabelSmyth Write to the mayor
Is this the real life, or is this just Battersea?....
caught in a stair slide, theres no escape from trainality
NO one ever agrees with me that one of QUEEN says that and the others say fantasy !!
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Battersea Park on the overground be like:
🤫🧱🧐 Where is he?
At 1:05 "It's only served by stopping services." That's a relief. I've got visions of passengers being hung out of the doors on hooks, with large nets on the platforms, much like the TPO trains of old.
PreNeanderthal
Imagine being scooped up by email !!
With the old slam door trains you could get on/off whilst the train was moving (closing into a stop. There were signs telling you not to alight before the train had stopped, but none telling you not to _board_ before the train stopped...)
Another excellent video, and as a side note, the line to Wandsworth Road lost its connection to the Brighton Main Line when the platforms at Battersea Park were extended to accommodate 12 car trains
Chicago still has wooden platforms, mostly in great old Victorian L stations downtown. You’d quite like them.
where was the secret shop???
The 'pew-like seat' at Battersea Park Station is called a settle, popular in the 18th and 19th centuries. There were long curved ones used in houses and pubs and put around open fires to keep the heat in for those who were able to muscle their way in, the intimidated folk freezing elsewhere in the room! I suppose that the one on the platform might protect sitting passengers from unpleasant draughts more that the standard lattice-seated bench.
1:06- "It's only served by stopping services'. As opposed to stations where people try to board or leave non-stopping services, which can get messy.
The London and Blackwall Railway was served by trains that didn’t stop...
I love scruffy South London: long may it remain so (though it's getting more up itself every day). I first visited Battersea Park station as a ten year old en route to the Pleasure Gardens/ Funfair: we only travelled one stop from Wandsworth Road but that was an experience. It was old-fashioned even then, the little green two-car EMU that served the South London line every half an hour; such a contrast with the Tube.
I remember the wooden platforms at Battersea Park being in use in 2008
As a Battersea resident would love to see more local station vlogs. Thanks for this. Fascinating stuff.
What you'd call battered old stations with a certain charm.
Thanks for uploading. I really enjoy your vids as I love history. They always transport me back to a forgotten time. Governments, railway companies, private companies should really should make more efforts to preserve, restore and even re-open these stations and anything else that is part of our history.
very accurate and picturesque, a real example for this kind of video ! The station building is absolutely magnificent, thanks for showing it in detail
Queen's Road,was on the LSWR's,Richmond Roundabout service(both ways),and was always a local operation! It operated as clockwise,and anti-clockwise,and was on an even interval timetable. The Southern,just maintained what the LSWR,did with steam! The LBSC,not to be outdone,was using a similar type service! There was a 1909,Employees timetable book,reproduction,and the extent of LSWR services,was awesome,and with no electric operations! If you can find it,you'll find it a fascinating read! Check out Ian Allan,and other publishers,for further information! As usual,Jago,a beautiful 📹 video,and that LBSC station is a gem! Thanks again,for your tenacity,and racking up the mileage!! 🚂🚇🚉😇😀😇😀👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for your new report about these two smaller overground stations Queenstown Road and Battersea Park. I love your video clips very much, looking to Britain and London in special from Germany. Best wishes to you, stay healthy and bye. Günter.
I remember standing on the wooden platform 1 as a child after playing in Battersea park going home to Wandsworth road the line was vic to London Bridge loop and a school friends dad was the station manager at Wandsworth rd in the 1960s his house was just off the platform
Alighted opposite that abandoned platform, in the Summer, and it has a uniquely desolate aura all its own. Felt like instead of jollies at the nearby park I was Michael Caine getting off the train to avenge my dead brother done in by the Newcastle mob.
Its so nice to see these old buildings looked after. I think when this covid is sorted out, the buildings would make beautiful restaurants..
A couple of years ago I travelled via Queenstown Road station and the ticket office in the entrance had been lovingly converted into coffee shop. You could sit and enjoy your hot drink at the ticket counter while watching other travellers through the “ticket window”. A few of the original ticket office features had been kept which made for a nice atmosphere while waiting 25 minutes for your next train to Waterloo.
@@ashtonkirby4342 That sounds lovely.
I love this channel so much!!!! So humorous and informative. A perfect combination.
Jago, I have minimal interest in trains/the tube outside of design and architectural history. But your channel is so well put together, and so interesting, I watch everything you do on the day it comes out. Many thanks, you're one of my favourite channels on here.
You’re most welcome!
I am always fascinated by the Vauxhall milk platform where much of London's milk was siphoned off at purpose built spigots there and was a very industrious operation running all day and night. Much of the traffic for that was assembled locally here at Templecombe sorting yard having been worked up from the S&D for onwards journey to Vauxhall. Don't visit Templecombe as its tragic how that massive freight and passenger operational junction has ended up a seedy single line a shadow of its former importance. Viewers of the Professionals and the Sweeney would have recognised the old nearby National Carriers freight station which was the South London version of Bishopsgate Goods Depot, operating 24/7 distributing and collecting much of central and South London's freight and often visited in its dereliction by TV companies although it was still in operation when the Sweeney shoots were done but very run down. I remember the cross track signal box at Battersea Park, very rambleshack and was such a shame it was torn down with little ceremony :*(
Several times I’ve been on an overground train to Clapham Junction that had to get redirected to Battersea Park. I’ve seen many disgruntled passengers step out onto the platform wondering where the hell they are. The trouble is you really need to listen out hard for the change in destination. The driver won’t always announce it, leaving that to the automated message which doesn’t sound any different. So if you are chatting to someone, on the phone or have your headphones on listening to music you can easily miss the change. The station is far enough from Clapham Junction that its not a trivial walk (having done it myself) and there never seems to be an attempt by TFL to offer alternative arrangements to Clapham Junction. You’re left to fend for yourself, bus, taxi, walk, wait for a train...somewhere. Great video as always!
You would really have to go into Victoria (which, of course is Zone 1) and out again, I think.
@@AnnabelSmyth Yeah I agree. I guess it depends on whether they need to connect with another train at Clapham Junction etc.
I recently travelled on the 06.33 “parliamentary “ service from Batt Pk to Dalston Junction (prompted by a video by Mr Marshall) . I’m a major student of the LBSCR South London Line, the “Elevated Railway.”
And yes those steps down from pl 3&4 are rickety!!
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Destinations Beyond always sounds like a 1960s Rod Serling TV programme to me
I seem to recall that when it was just Queen Road, the (Battersea) suffix was used to avoid confusion with Queens Road (Peckham). It appeared as Queens Road (Battersea) on the Southern Region green totems, and tickets of course.
This is such a wonderful channel. My newest favorite. I live outside NYC in America and these videos are helping me through the lack of travel during the pandemic.
Such a wonderful channel - cheers me up every time
Always enjoy your work on the videos!
The stairwell under the bridge reminds me of Bordesley in Birmingham. The whole station does!
I've now visited Battersea Park dozens of times.
First time I was on an Overground train that got diverted there, we all got off.
Now we all tell people to stay on and cross the platform instead.
And I went there once and the trains from Victoria were stuffed up (at the same time London Overground was stuffed up) so ended up walking to Queenstown Road and getting a train to Putney.
Those horrid staircases do need to go from Battersea Park, as they are a death trap.
I really enjoy your videos, so informative. Much love from 🇮🇪 :)
Re the booking hall - I love those little ticket windows!
3:28 Trademark Jago bouncing walk shot... But with a twist! Love it.
Also, compare and contrast the bench at 3:13 with the manky modern thing at 4:41. I know which I'd rather sit upon.
There used to be SouthEastern services through Battersea Park into Kent, until the island platform was extended for longer Southern trains, cutting off the line on the other platform into/from Victoria.
🎶Never thought it would happen, with me and the girl from Clapham...🎶
I watched the 60s film 'Up The Junction' recently, starring a young Dennis Waterman, and was shocked to find out it was all about Battersea and not Clapham!
Out on the windy common that night I ain't forgotten 🎶
@@cargy930 I got off with Dot Cotton... 🎶
@@annother3350 Of course, I'd _go_ with Dot... But it would be Ethel Skinner I was thinking of! :D
@@cargy930 You'd be Ethel Skinner's 'Willie' ?!
Great little video. I always liked these quirky stations
I arrived at Battersea Power Station station to experience the Northern line extension, went for a long (enjoyable) walk in Battersea Park, and then got lost trying to find either Queenstown Road station or Battersea Park station for my return into Central London - despite the helpful maps in the streets you get in London. I did eventually find Battersea Park station. Two stations down, one to go.
Would go past Queenstown Road going from Barnes into Vauxhall travelling from uni to work. I loved the abandoned platform because right behind it is a brand new luxury apartment complex and I loved the dichotomy
Jago, are you suggesting that for Battersea Park the future's bright, the future's orange?
I'll get my (hi-vis) coat.
I have only had occasion to use Queenstown Road once, and found it very alarming as the platforms were so narrow! As for Battersea Park, back in the day it was on the South London Line from Victoria to London Bridge, most of which is now used by the Overground and the (very useful for me) service from Victoria has been abandoned. I do remember occasionally changing at Battersea Park, for reasons which now escape me, and back then, the platform where the South London Line stopped was an extremely rickety timber one - you would have loved it!
Change a Battersea Park, we were turfed out their once because of a line blockage somewhere, I think I wanted Earlsfield but had to go to Clapham High Street then tooting (actually an 156 and change at wandsworth could have been quicker , At one time the 44 used to run past Battersea Park station but it was re-routed away on the north side of the thames instead .
Yes that would be great thanks for your help.
Those stairs in Battersea Park Station are a deathtrap. They are ridiculously steep 😖😖😖
I think though I may be wrong that the "Battersea" addendum was originally added prior to the renaming to Queenstown Road to avoid confusion with Queens Road in Peckham... Certainly my father was once offered a ticket to Queens Road Battersea before the renaming when he wanted one to the Peckham station.
Interesting. Despite having passed through Queens Road many times, I never thought of that. I should be more attentive!
@@JagoHazzard Is that another apostrophe differential too. I read that many london street names were amended in WW1 to assist with deliveries by reducing similar names, though there remain plenty of Queens's Roads about.
There's also Walthamstow Queens Road
I have a clear memory of Nunhead station having wooden platforms. I’d like to think they’re still there, just covered in a very thick layer of tarmac?
Love you channel! 👍
Would be great to see a video about the Nunhead to Crystal Palace (High Level) railway.
Indeed: Battersea Power Station Station :) Can't wait to see which diction becomes popular usage when differentiating from the power station zone itself. Bit of a mouthful. Great vid.
I love interesting videos like this plus I live in Battersea all my life so this was doubly fascinating. Please do another video on Battersea ♥️
I've never been to London and most likely never I will but I do very much like watching these videos.
Love all this series of videos, just wish they were longer!
From the mid-1980s, I occasionally alighted at one or other of these stations when returning from a Denmark St shopping spree to my sister-in-law's place on Queenstown Road. I would get to Victoria and then see what trains were available. As the years have gone by, fewer and fewer trains seem to stop at either station, and I end up going to Clapham Junction and catching a bus (or walking) instead. Shame.
Great video. Battersea Park station appears in the excellent 1970 Donald Cammell film Performance. Cheers
I'm surprised you didn't mention the now closed Battersea Park Road station, that was pretty much next door to Battersea Park station, but on a different line! Some street level evidence of the station still remains.
I only found out fairly recently that Queenstown Road used to be called Queens Road. Growing up in the area, I always knew it as Queenstown Road, and thought when my dad's generation referred to it as Queens Road they were doing so for brevity, or just out of sheer laziness! But in reality they were just using the name that it used to have in their formative years.
A video on Battersea Station would also be good, not that there's much of it left to be seen! Oh, and while you're in the area, wander up the High Street and get a few shots of my old school, no longer the comprehensive that I attended, but now the educational establishment of a potential king of England! Much obliged 😊
I’ll certainly be revisiting Battersea! The more I read about it, the more interesting railway artefacts I learn about.
@@JagoHazzard I have ruther connections to coal yards and dealers in Battersea, It used to be a cheap place to live. Note the Used To Be
Obviously you are certainly an authority on the railways and streets of our capitol and your videos tough the inner nerd in me like no other. This is why, as a native of York, with its rich rail history, I wondered if after this lockdown is over you would ever consider a video on the city. Maybe a small tour of the railway museum, a staple of yorks history and culture or even an overview of the rail barrons of York like George leeman. Just a though. Keep up the good work sir, ill be watching closely either way.
I keep meaning to do a video on Hudson’s complicated legacy - I actually shot footage for it back in February.
@@JagoHazzard oh I cannot wait. I love your channel and how unapologetically nerdy you are.
Love the wooden seat. Good that these buildings are listed, architectural must be preserved.
Yes please, more tales!
Love the disused ones too
Great post thank you Keep safe👍
I want to see all of the stations😂
Love this channel, thanks for taking me on such interesting little trips ;-)
I can remember the timber platform at Stepney East on the old LTSR line from Fenchurch St.
I'm an American who has only ever been to Heathrow. Never ridden the Tube. Don't know if I ever will. But I enjoy your channel and droll humour so much.
are you a pilot?
@@highpath4776 no, just on a flight between Denver and Paris. Brief change at Heathrow.
Great video, very interesting
I’d love to see a video about the stations, past and present, in Brixton. I’m particularly fascinated by the disused northern platforms a at Brixton and the disappeared western platforms at Loughborough Junction, as well as the lost East Brixton station. I am no rail engineer so I have no idea what obstacles there might be to opening up the disused platforms at Brixton - but surely easier than building a station on the viaduct above? (As has been proposed to provide a connection with the Overground). I believe the last passenger trains to use the western curve at Loughborough Junction were in 1929, running from Wimbledon to Ludgate Hill via what is now the approach to Thameslink. Many thanks for your hugely interesting and entertaining videos which I watch keenly. This episode is a particular favourite! Thanks, old bean!
I used to repair the ticket machines at Battersea Park (among many, many others!). Lovely old station.
Probably the least used outward tickets station on the LBSC network?
Thanks for the video :)
Random fact. The Russian word for a railway station is Вокзала, which sounds like 'Vargsahl'. Rumuour has it that when the Russian rail network was being planned, they visited Vauxhall station and were so impressed with it, that all stations are modelled on it and named after it!
I do wish that people wouldn't use the American non-word "signage" and use the proper British term, "Signing" or "signs".
Queens Road was re-named Queenstown Road to avoid confusion with Queens Road station in Peckham and about the same time Clapham was changed to Clapham High Street to avoid confusion with Clapham Junction and Clapham Yorkshire.
You don't want to use words invented by Americans? In that case, you probably ought to know that this website was invented by Americans, the network you use to talk to it was invented by Americans, and the transistors that power your computer were invented by Americans. So I guess you'll be leaving now?
Great Video Mate Love It
Jagos on a roll recently ! This lockdowns really working for you eh?
Thanks for this video. It's nice tgat these stations still have features from the pre- Grouping era.
I could be wrong, but I think Battersea Park used to be called Battersea Park Junction. I remember getting out there on a trainspotting trip to London in the early 70s. We stayed on the platform for half an hour, then went on to Clapham Junction.
That might have been to board on the signal box, the junction to the south of the platforms was quite complex
Great video!
Really love your short films. I'm slowly getting the Wifepoid in to them too.
"only a fool would try to walk down them while also filming" or as I like to call it, playing the filming game on expert mode
I remember this stop it was handy for some of my colleagues who worked with me on the old prince of Wales redevelopment next door PS if your into quirky history involving iron work and wood wooden platform covers take a look at the Grange Hill Chigwell loop of the central line it original was a rail line spur east of Milford that was incorporated into a pre-war plan to be brought into the underground and the tunnel from Leytonstone to Hainault was converted into a was time underground factory
Definitely like to see more.
I am new to your channel. Thanks for this great video. I look forward to to watching more 😀xxx
I enjoyed the video as always Jago !
Ain't getting on no train fool! ..... Or was that plane? .... I crack myself up to! Haha! ...... Brilliant as always, thanks Mr H.
Another brilliant video fuelling my inner train nerd
Would love to see another Battersea video!
Very interesting as always, I always wondered why Queens Road became Queenstown Road. The high-backed seat reminded me of Barons Court (see recent Jago video). I had forgotten about the "South London Line" (Victoria-London Bridge), 100 years ago very busy, but killed by bus, tram and tube competition. Not sure if it would provide a useful journey option now but at least the tracks are still there if needed.
Well, if this channel wasn't a bloody great find I don't know! Stumbled across it yesterday while out burning and pillaging on CZcams, as we all we Norsemen like to entertain ourselves during the Big Sniffles....oh how I miss the sound of swords and axes! Anyhoo, great channel and most enjoyable videos!
All Hail LMS....!
Greetings from a Swede in Glasgow! 🍻
Many thanks! Glad you’re enjoying it!
@@JagoHazzard
You better believe I am, I'm stil watching all your Tales from the Tube videos, absolutely love them, very interesting to say the least!
Huge railfan myself, steam in particular....
Looking forward to seeing what you'll stir together in the future Squire! 🍻