Mani Shankar Aiyar & Pervez Hoodbhoy at THiNK 2011
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- Indian politician Mani Shankar Aiyar & nuclear physicist Pervez Hoodbhoy in conversation with NDTV's Barkha Dutt at Tehelka-Newsweek's THiNK 2011 on "Seven Ways to Rescue Pakistan"
THiNK 2011 is an incredible festival of ideas hosted by TEHELKA in collaboration with Newsweek (USA) - held in Goa, India from November 4-6, THiNK brought together the brightest minds in the worlds of technology, the arts and literature, medicine, economics, human rights, politics, business and more from the US, UK, India, Afghanistan, Israel, China and Pakistan to share ideas and inspiration.
For more on THiNK 2011, visit www.goathinkfest.com
if mani had his way .. the mumbai attak would have been much easier ... and more vicious
despite of being Indian, i am absolutely in love with Parvez hoodbhoy , he is so intelligent and he speak so well.
7ii
How beautiful discussion but what will happen.to ghazwaye hind
make a concrete wall on the radcliff line n forget about pak, we do not need anything from pakistan economically, let them make their own destiny
100% my thoughts
Lets forget them altogether
Consider no one lives there
MANI, like always impractical and crazy..AND HOOD BOY ALWAYS A STATES MAN..
give Mani to Pakistan, we will have that gentleman from Pakistan....
Prof. Pervez Hoodbhai is highly respected scholar and activist who is trying his best to create awareness against radicalization and strengthening democracy in Pakistan.
Guysss...don't abuse Mani shankar aiyar. He is mentally lil unstable.
Why does this Idiot keep saying India will invade Pakistan. It's always Pakistan who has attacked India and killed and our Citizens
Borderless India Pakistan and Kashmir may sound so peaceful and prosperous but it is not.
It is impractical and threatens security.
+Ram Lalit Tiwari Because the number of Muslims would increase 3 fold ,and survival of Hindus would be difficult.
Mr Mani says idiotic things, we know...is it a habit or an illness? We don't know!
Pak really deserve people like manishankar iyyer
read the book the Pakistan papers by Manishaker Iyer a great scholar India had
Looks like a dream, nostalgic, how much has changed in last decade......
Lived in Islamabad as an Indian diplomat 1991-95.
Mani's grand-standing is nauseating. Has he no respect for lives lost in the India vs. Pakistan conflicts? He is suggesting to open the borders with Pakistan so that we can have a 7/11 every day of the year.
I empathise with Hoodbhoy. Islam has stricken Pakistan to its current situation, a failed state full of corruption and terrorism. Secularism is Pakistan’s only hope.
Delhi Elections 2020
Congress - 0 seats
Mani's idea of European Union is so wrong. European Union is on verge of collapse. Mani is a fool.
Can we offer citizenship and may be a position as VC or in one of IIT. He will be an asset and a leading light to Indian Muslims.
Always liked Pervez Hoodbhoy' s liberal ideas and if anybody agrees with me , the Radicals even look different than the Liberals.......................: - )
Shameful days. Hard to believe such criminals were ruling over Indians.
Aiyar should have been appointed in Indian Kashmir to sort out the issue. Pundits could survive many years and Aiyar can easily survive many many many years with or without any security. Wish the next government should fix him there and should not allow him to come back for the future of Kashmir.
Mani shanker can you choose to Live with Majority Muslim area with your young daughter and wife ???????
His wife is a Muslim,that is why he favours to live with a Muslim majority country,You see the love for muslims and Pakistan comes from that link.
Aravind Sai Mani's wife a Muslim? It looks like correct. His stupid ideas can be explained now.
The more I see Barkha the more y blood boils..
दिग्विजय, मनीशन्कर, बरखा, राजदीप को ले लो और परवेज़ भाई भारत को दे दो... Parvez Hoodbhoy is more sesnsible then all of them.
Good old days .
david hadley came to india with visa.... mani is forgetting all
He came on American visa.
What kind of people are these mani shankars he is literally saying that its indias responsibility to take care of pakistan
I had never imagined this former Indian diplomate called Mani Shankar Iyer would pale into idiotic baffoonery of pseudointellectualism, in his advocacy favouring a borderless India-Pakistan.
He is neither a statesman nor a visionary like his counterpart on the stage.
We need to have a strong unsurpassable border all around us .
We must not forget the fact that Pakistan has forced us to go to war three times in the past .
The more we become powerful and tough the better Pakistan will behave. That's all.
Will you ever learn or attempt to love before you die? You are really poisonous. Get a snake bite. You may become normal.
Manishankar should migrate to Pak. And then try and see whether they are interested in taking his advice.
How Beutifully he Talks n Replies .
Hats off fr Him.
Crazy man and a Crazy Idea (Manishankar)
if pakistan became athiest it may still have chance
Why our ( may be theirs) elites has so much affection for a failed stated, instead of for Bangladesh... a state which is doing much better than Pakistan.
There is no discussions and seminars for integrating Bangladesh with India..
This is Mani's full time job and hence he is so passionate. Mani tea stall was another options left to him but looks like he prefers to perform a Mujra in Lahore more than anything else. Frankly Mani is trying hard to save his only job and not Pak or India :-). Just ignore him.
Ajmal qassab was an indian national
😂😂😂😂
Manishankar is a Indian Pakistani.
we would like one Pakistani Taliban Representative to make the discussion hot !
this guy s so nice.
question to MANI SHANKAR - WHy did congress divided INDIA in 1947. ? Why did CONGRESS party divided INDIA in cahoot with ISLAMISTS/ Jihadists and , British imperialists ? So congress is also the culprit .
Mahatma gandhi wanted no division , but he gave in to threats, intimidation and violence and killings.
Mahatma Gandhi also wanted to dissolve and fold congress party , after independence - but that did not happen. It is now the responsibility of INDIANS to show the path of exit to congress party , which follows religious , divide and rule policies and divisive agenda on all possible ways.
😂😂😂I think they r suffering from mental agony ....
Did this event and his interview took place in POK at Jihadi headquarters ?
I am a fan of Barkha Dutt.whichever program she anchors. She is always more than prepared for the job
Pervez Hoodboy,love him always.
Border less Indo Pak relation Great Idea. It should be set as a Goal in both countries to achieve to though it is difficult but not impossible.
India could hav saved pak & it missed it biggly .. a simple declaration after the war of 1971 & could hav been added in the Simla agreement , if there is a coup in pak , on any crazy imagination .. India has the right to attack to bring the civilians govt back to the helms .. this single declaration would hav saved pak from itself ... Iyer needs to retreat back to Himlayas & start making peace with himself .
Everybody know how best Mani can lie.
Many discussions on this issue are going on. It makes me extremely suspicious. Are there people who are dreaming of union with Pakistan but do not say it openely. Leave aside for a moment what would Pakistanis want.
I will tell you one thing for sure. I do not wish harbour neither friendship nor animosity towards Pakistanis or Pakistan.
Please let no one even dream of becoming one nation ever.
This will be recipe for disaster. The Pakistanis think that they are Arabs. Agreed.
Why argue?
Borderless India pak??? What a joke by Mani 😮😮😮
Mani is known Pakistani in India.
Don't forget that ass stank 'Burqa' Dutt's singing paeans in the hope the Maulana Aiyar reveals himself.
Ashish Uffa brother please don't speak like that we brothers first then we neighbours,no definite by religion difference. kashi ram have no different by kashi khan.
how can u forget the anchor, she is the agent of isi in india.
What idiot people . Intelligent and liberal people are consider ISI agent. God safe your mentality....By day way INDIA is not country of R. S.S and B.J.P only. We are more than that.
Partition was a blessing in disguise. if not for partion, the suffering would have continued till this date. What pakistan suffers now would be our fate. You may keep romanticising the idea of this relation, but truth be told, we are far too different. Most Educated Indians think less about religion than an average pakistani. We don set upon imposing our thinking, but I have seen for myself how Pakistanis tend to do so. Not that we shouldn't be friendly, But frankly India has always been kinder.
Lala land. That is where Mani Shankar is.
Love your comment. Right on.
Pervez hoodbhoy is very nice man.He can think unlike most of his country men.He is no fanatic.All the best for him.
We have met hoodbhoy in India when he came to our college. He is a very mature, articulate and intelligent person. Good to see that people like hoodbhoy play a role of influencing the masses in Pak. However, on a side note, it seems a little bit like he is putting on a fake accent here. Could be just me!!
Anyway a good debate
I simply do not want to know what the Pakistanis think about their origin but I do want to know what they plan as far as we are concerned. My desire is to live as neighbours. We will go our way and let the Pakistanis go their way.
We are different people, we Indians and Pakistanis, as far as present times are concerned. What people think of the past is irrelevant. Past is history. It must stay as history. People say history repeats itself. But when and if it does, I will not be there, hopefully.
Iyer saab the problem of free border is it will encourage smuggling.
mani lost his mind and not into his senses
I do not agree with borderless pakistan and india. I do not see any country without borders. Without borders things will be much more problematic in the future. We need borders but can exists peacefully together.
He has the most respect for the lives lost during the three wars. He has so much more respect that he does not want to see relations go sour so that we have more wars with Pakistan. We are both Nuclear states. We end our civilization, with another conflict.
Pakistani fanatics win does not worry me, neither does the threat of bomb blasts. Kashmir is already their agenda and I couldn't care less about that. Better relations with Pakistan can be there without we getting distracted." Mirror image of India, our understanding of Pakistan " etc are vague terms. Fact is , we are two nations and two people. We must keep it that way. We already have growth and stability. We are not Pakistan and never will be.
Pakistan is always going to remain a part of India. We need to accept this. It was and will always remain a part of India. Today if a war was fought between India and Pakistan u have the muslims in India who will isolated. We cannot have a 15% of a population disenfranchised. The Pakistan also share a larger connection to all of us Indians mostly north Indians. U discount the power of assimilation. Punjabis Pakistan are deeply ingrained in Indian culture. We should step up and accept them.
Opening birder to radicalized nation of Pakistan is dangerous idea. People to people contact is possible after dismantle the terror centres and Saed and Ajhar behind bar
What Hindus need to learn from history from Indian history and from their relationship with Muslims is simple..
Think of Islam as a Siamese twin..the twins being politics and religion.
There was a reluctant acceptance of Islam among Hindus ..for many a reason.
The first primary reason is that Hindus see it as 'just another mode of worship' let us make peace with it..let us ignore the politics of Islam....
India is a very big country of bdiverse people - your opinion is fair for south indians - but North Indians & Pakistanis do have a very unique kind of super-hate/love relationship -
Mr Parvez got this only kohinoor talent Mani 😂
haaaa haaaa mani learn something from Pakistan panelist.
Mani is daydreaming on the stage. Border-less Pakistan.... come on ...
this person name mani s was working in mea and was counsel general. people said nehru himself intervened and he was selected in ifs. embarrassment of hoodboy is visible, and anguish of the chamcha is clear. shocked to see that people like mani was deciding our foreign policy. horrible!!!
it is pathetic to see the audience was clapping for the chamcha. looks like most of the audience was mindless secular.
"May their tribe increase" :)
Parvez did not receive applause. Looks like most in audience were Muslims.
@ram333312
he has respect for those lives thats why he has this stance since he doesnt want more bloodshed due to india-pak conflicts
Unification is the way forward. It will come one day and people will see.
Dear Dr Hoodbhoy, ignore these uneducated and ignorant generals who have shallow thinking and have narcissist traits. Pakistan is proud of people like you who served it honestly and without any agenda. Stay safe. We need you not the generals.
in what capacity is that b dutt asking people questions? her cred is in tatars
India with its large population should reduce its dependence on technology.
This will never be a reality.
mani has gone mad .. his talks of like of a baba... philosophy ... nice ... this guy is gone mad ... sathya gaya hai
ये मणिशंकर की इंटएन्शन ख़तरनाक है,इसको पाकिस्तान ही भेजो।
Miss Burkha Dutt,Flood happens in Pakistan every year.They have to work out a flood management system.Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
Why they can't get any better journalist than Dutt. She is exposed in Nira Radia tapes, working for the politicians, the lobbyists and the businessmen in the grab of a journalist. She should be boycotted at least by Tehelka.
Peace is not an alternative but only choice for prosperity of people of india.
@ram333312 -Mani shankar Aiyar should nt be given such a stage as he is mere a Gandhi loyalist .He does not have any contribution.
good point rihan..... god bless u
"We had decided way back to become two different nations"
Like you had a choice...
A very honest appraisal .
12:33 my god, the audacity of that statement. I dont know how these Congressis had the country for so many years. Glad they're out
A Peaceful neighborhood is unobtainable with out friendship with Pakistan. Pakistan is deeply entrenched in Indian culture. What is one thing that unites India. What is our unity based on ? Germany, for the Germans. Spain for the Spanish. Who is India for ?
Pakistan is apart of India hisotrically, linguistically, culturally, India should step up. Making better friends with Pakistan is for our own well being.
Mani is a good person but what he said is impractical
Together we win. Secularism democracy and inclusiveness will work wonders.
Turning the other cheek is good philosophy when you are dealing with civilized people. Do you know theology the "Islamic Republic of Pakistan" ? Start reading Quran and Hadiths, which Gandhi a noble but foolish soul didn't do and don't make the same mistakes he made.
Mani wake up listen to najam sethi all 4 wars with India were engineered by Pakistan generals and ghq.so where did u get notion that they love peace with India and it is their power base to have conflict.
true man...he was so much entertaining...
Barkha, tehelka, are you insulting all those who sacrificing lives to protect India during Kargil war? If yes, what does that mean. I think only one thing.
Mr Aiyar,
A lot of people like me who are in their early seventies have got over the partition of India, simply because we have to get on with our lives and so do our children.
If you are implying that Indians like me would want union with Pakistan, you are absolutely wrong.
We wish neither friendship nor animosity towards our neighbour. We want to progress, improve our standard of living, education and contribute towards peaceful world, not just peaceful neighbourhood.
@unitydeck there are actually 'countries without borders' ... for example within UK England and Scotland have porous borders ... so is the case within EU and between USA and Canada ... however I agree with you that we can co-exist peacefully with borders ...
Did you do anything better for Islam? ... Typical criticizer with no alternates. Besides, Hamza is brilliant, he has a good grasp about metaphysical elements, idea and is very thorough in his explanations. The mere fact that he gets into debates with important individual makes him someone worth of being debated. What do you know about metaphysics or cosmology? If you can do any better than him, then I salute you, if not keep quiet. You are an ismaili i think? Its typical from you guys.
I agree. Cartoons are always more entertaining.
remember Pakistan tell it s own people that Punjabi is impure language........Bengali is impure language.................we don't do that in India.
unification with who?
You say Pakistan is part of India historically. Reality on the ground is different. India should step up to what? While Pakistanis come in and gun down anyone they can see (e.g. Mumbai), there are some dreamers amongst us, who still want "friendship" with Pakistan. It will be worthwhile asking those who had their dear ones killed in Mumbai attacks. Who is India for? Pray tell me. I hope it is not for the Pakistanis.
Sorry i said Dutt i was meant to say MANI.
I wasnt comparing the veil with undergarments, u missed the point. Actually, I was referring to the idea that there are different standards for men and women in every society. For instance, you won't get fined if you decide to go shirtless during summer ... but a woman? No... You see, 2 different standards... And some women are complaining about it! I was relating this to Saudi where the standard for a woman is to wear a veil and for men it happens to be something else.