VORTEX VENOM 5-25 FFP SCOPE! BEST SCOPE FOR THE MONEY?
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I purchased a Viper a couple weeks ago for a LR 243 and this scope is well worth the money, very clear and turrets are very precise. will be getting a second one
When you checked your target with the level, you kept saying level when you had the level in a vertical position. A vertical framing piece, such as a post or stud, is "plumb" when it's perfectly straight, and when a horizontal member has no tilt, it is "level." Just saying! Most people don't know the difference...
at 25:08,,, i meant more of a forgiving eyebox... NOT unforgiving LOL... anyway, good results with the vortex venom for sure!
Very good and honest demonstration and review. I just got this same scope with the same reticle and planning to mount it on Remington 700 varmint in .223, thanks for your effort!
Thanks, you too!
Very nice review of a quality mid range (price wise) scope. Excellent scope for long range target shooting. I own two of them and I am completely satisfied with them. One comment I disagree with is the throw lever. I have it installed on both my scopes, it was very easy to install and it work incredibly well. I admit it does look a bit on the "cheapo" side but once installed it is very solid and performs flawlessly. I can't say enough about that model scope, incredibly pleased with them.
Venom is an excellent scope and one I could use for anything. If I was to get into 1 mile club, I might go to the Golden Eagle HD which is a 15-60X60. But that would be overkill for shooting deer and hog in the dense forests of northeast Texas.
I have just about never used a lighted reticle and the few scopes I have, including the Arkens, the battery just wears down.
I have a number of Vortex scopes. Crossfire II 3-9x40 that came on my Mossberg Patriot. Two of the Diamondback Tactical 6-4X50. And now, three of the Venom 5-25X56.
All of which were doing fine. But I kept reading of how people, some of whom I respect very much, were going bonkers for Arken. So, I got a few. A 4-16 and a few 6-24. Good glass. Not superior to Vortex but comparable. I happen to like the Vortex more. Both have chromatic aberration. Which is not a deal killer. That is what happens when you put on coatings to fight against glare.
My problem with Arken is, I think, a design issue. Specifially, the turret covers or scales are held on by little allen screws. And no matter what I do, they loosen. So, then, when I notice they are spinning freely and hope the actual turret has not moved, costing me my zero. This has happened more than once.
The turret design of Vortex optics is completely different and this has never happened, not even once, with my Vortex scopes. Set it and forget it. Although I also had a problem with the Vortex throw lever and the mag dial is so very tight.
What has cause drifting shots for me. First off, the rings. You can only tighten down to 18 in-lbs or so. So, what I do is set the rings so that the front ring is at the back of the objective bell. Well, first, I tighten the base while pushing toward the muzzle. So, on a rifle like my TC Compass II .308 Win, it came with separate little Weaver mounts. I went to EGW and found the 0 MOA pic rail for my model. Put that on. Now I can mount where I need it. This way, recoil cannot cause the scope to drift back.
Let me be a scope heathen for a moment. Full disclosure, I align the scope longitude-wise with the body of the rifle. It works better for me than a level.
Another cause of errant shot placement for me is the stock. My Mossberg Patriot started out with the worst accuracy, probably around 2 MOA. When I put it in an MDT chassis, I got 1 MOA with my mediocre shooting ability and 60 rounds worth of hot barrel. I found later why that is. Long story short, the stock for the Patriot has a gap in the rear action screw guide and also the mag well is used as a spacer. This means you can never torque down the rear action screw the way you need to. This means you could have a millimeter of movement in the rear of the action, using the front action screw as a fulcrum. Change to a chassis or some kind of bedded stock and it will improve. My TC Compass II has a single piece molded plastic stock with metal pillars for bedding and it averages 1/2 MOA out of the box. And after 40 rounds.
So, the guy who had shots all over the place, I would suggest looking at the scope mount placement and the stock. Also, I am rather mystified. How could he live in a place where he can have a firearm and ammunition. And he got hold of a Venom but is not allowed to ship for repair or receive it? And it cost him the same amount as here in the USA. And he has access to internet and ability to post on YT. So, it is not one of the countries that blocks off internet access and we know who I am talking about.
To quote Jim Carey as Ace Ventura, Pet Detective - "Really?"
The other thing I like about the Venom and the Diamondback is also mentioned here. The eye box. A bit wider field of view and I don't have to get my eye close and take a chance on getting scope brow. When I get one of those marks, I have to do my Carol Channing impersonation.
Elfster very nice optic. I to use Vortex as my primary brand optic. I'm running a Viper 6 by 24 PST gen 1. Enjoyed the video, and the information. Echo
I just bought mine vortex venom on Sunday .. putting it on my rpr .308 I may step out my realm and make a video about it
Awesome! Let me know if ya make a video!
Will do
I have this scope on my .22LR PRS rig - loving it!
Great review. Looks like the Viper is a solid performer for the money.
Great video, that rock river is a smokin shooter man.
It's definitely a tack driver for sure!
Especially with the right reloads
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloadingwhat upper is that its extremely accurate
I looked at this scope but went with the Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 6-24x56.
Have viper,venom, eagle nothing but good anybody can get bad optic I would send it back calling it junk whatever great customer service
Aaoptic has the refurbs for 350 right now shipped and all.
That throw lever is perfectly fine. Are you using a tow chain to turn your magnification up?
Nah, I just disagree. Didn't like it
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Awesome video, thanks for sharing!!
Love Vortex as well. BUT,... Something nobody ever mentions:
My Nikon HAD a lifetime warranty as well. 'Til they decided, uh.."Not Anymore"!
Obviously all a company has to do, once they've made their Million$, reaching a market saturation point, they can just quit manufacturing scopes & say they aren't going to honor warranties any longer. 🤔 hmm, -makes one wonder how long ANY "Lifetime" warranty is really good for. When it comes down to it, a Lifetime warranty is only good as long as the company wants to honor it.
While this is true, you have to look at the company mission statement and business model. Nikon is know for producing cameras and lenses for hipsters and lefties. They know they’re primary customer base and don’t want to piss them off. Rifle scopes was just side cash for them. Companies like Vortex (and especially PSA) are super based and the risk of them just stopping making optics out of nowhere is pretty minimal.
Hi, I'm new to the world of precision shooting and I would like to know if there is a secret if there is one to making groups under moa because despite my efforts I can't stay under 1.25 moa and I was impressed by these groups of 0.5 and 0.2 moa😳😳😳
Thanks and congratulations for your videos💪🏼
Do you reload? What rifle?
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloading first of all thanks for replying 🥰
I shoot a ruger american predator 20 inch barrel in .223 and no i don't reload because i don't have the equipment and experience to reload yet.
In my opinion, to get such groups you need to reload and have a quality barrel or get lucky with a good barrel. Here is the reloading playlist I did on my other channel czcams.com/play/PLUDk7Fz8nLrci7RYhEApboyZl3p84MyvM.html
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloading thank you very much I had already seen some videos but the playlist had escaped me now I will study and introduce myself to the world of reloading and in a while I will let you know if I can narrow down the groups.😆😆😆
The last thing I was very interested in this optic (vortex venom) and I wanted to know if the turrets were locked or can be adjusted without being unlocked because it seems strange to me that the windage turret is free to turn since even a plant is enough to change the setting.🤔
@@michelemoretti8320it can be you, it can be the rifle or it can be the ammo. Most probably all combined. Also those 3 can be broken down to more issues. Anything can decrease your accuracy/consistence.
You can ask somebody experienced to try your gun+ammo combination on bench to figure out how much is you and how much rifle+ammo.
Awesom scope !!! I was planning on installing this scope on my CZ 457 22Mag, would this be overkill or useful ?
Hard to beat for the money!
Good catch!
Looks awesome... would've been cool if return to zero would have spot on
Very nice video!
Thank you very much!
What scope mount you using?
I think its within the first minute of the video. F3R machine
I'm curious to know why you would buy a mil scope when you think in moa. Seems like a lot of unnecessary math. Is there an advantage to mrad that I'm not seeing?
This video I did a couple years ago will 100% answer this question czcams.com/video/UGQvZa90WRQ/video.html
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloading That was a very well done and informative video but it still seems a little like setting your phone language to Spanish. Every time you do something, you have to translate to your native language. If I'm at 100 yards and shooting 4 inches left I simply adjust 4 moa right or I grab my calculator for mil adjustment. Conversely, if I was Canadian and shooting at 100 meters and I was 8cm to the left I would simply adjust .8 mil to the right or I grab my calculator for the moa adjustment. Is it just that most competition shooters are ex-military and military is metric?
I can tell you this much.... if you ever think you might use this for something like PRS competition shooting, then damn near 90% plus guys are using mils... not moa... and most are going to be making calls in mils. Not moa..... unless you're shooting something like benchrest. There is a reason why I have both moa and mil... so I can stay fresh on both... once you fully understand the two, then you simply know it's either 4 quarters to make a dollar.... or 10 dimes to make a dollar.
What's the rear bag you are using?
Nothing special. Just a cheap rear bag from scheels brand name
Is this scope overkill for a Ruger precision 22LR?
In the 22lr prs world, absolutely not
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Thanks for the reply. I ended up finding it on Amazon from a third party seller for $370 plus shipping new!!
I thought the deal was to good to be true so I emailed vortex to see if it was a fake once I received. They said it’s real and got a killer deal!!
Will this work on a scar 17?
SCAR’s thrash optics just due to the weird way the energy transfers through the rifle. So essentially, any optic with a good warranty will work on a SCAR 17 lol
5.56 or .308?
5.56
What twist rate is it.
1:8
I got my self Vortex Venom and I was happy and enthusiast to use it, but after three times in the range with about 600 rounds it lost zero, like 1.5f of elevation @ 50yars!!! I could not see my impacts before I down to 50 yard, than it “jumped” back to Zero and so on… each time I get excellent group but up and down 1.5f @ 50 yards, in addition the ring under the turret carrying the “zero mark” got loosen completely and rotates freely.
I eventually lost 500$
Send it to vortex buddy. Lifetime warranty
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloading I cannot send it to Vortex.
I leave out of the USA mailing scope is illegal where I am from.
@@moshikvano87 where is that?
@@ElfstersRiflesandReloading Israel. No local service Distributor sells Diamondback only, and do not provide service at all
@@moshikvano87 want me to talk to someone at vortex about your situation?
what if its stolen and only proof you have one is the throw lever shade tool, pamphlets' and reciept. Is the warranty still good? mine has not been stolen just curious in case it does get stolen.
Lol no. not protected against theft XD
I see what you did there
@@s.o.f.fpatriotsforlife414 Just asking for a friend. actually, the word I was looking for in my original comment was not stolen but rather lost as I had my Venom in storage or on consignment at pawn shop. I can't remember which and was afraid of losing them due to empty pockets yet for some reason still had the lever, shade, tool, pamphlets and receipt. I realize now that Vortex whether lost or stolen would want the tube back in order for them to honor their no questions asked warranty, regardless and that I was entertaining the idea of stealing if it was possible. Not necessarily planning but certainly entertaining, LOL. Thanks for helping me to see how I am.
I gave my little grandson my old vortex viper to play with it was such a steaming pile of garbage
Sounds like operator error. I've used several without the slightest problem. It's good enough to consistently hit 10"-18" gongs at 200-1760 yards with a 300 PRC, dialing between distances with no problems with repeatability or holding zero.
Vortex promotional video
This scope isn't best for the money.
Couple things... i PAID for this scope with my own money so not sure why you think it's promotional... 2nd this video is kinda old but at the time in MY opinion it was
Venom is junk compared to the Arken Ep5 and the Arken is less expensive!
When i am shooting my b14r i had an arken in on it at first. Switched to the venom because the glass in the arken wasn’t good enough for me to be able to see trace. The arken has a lot of great features, i actually love the way they do their zero stop. But the ability to see why i missed due to a bad wind call because i can see the bullet in the end is a lot more important than a zero stop. Arkens glass does not compare when put up against the venom. And in a scope that’s the most important feature.