INSANE Realism - RTX4090 | BA178 New York - London | PMDG 777-300ER | Full Flight Review

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    In this video, we carry out a full and comprehensive review of the PMDG Boeing 777-300ER, for Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
    We will be taking the aircraft on a scheduled service from New York's John F Kennedy airport (KJFK), across the Atlantic, to London Heathrow (EGLL).
    Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
    PC Specs
    ASUS Z790
    Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
    64GB DDR4 3600MHz
    Hardware
    Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
    Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
    HP Reverb WMR headset
    TrackIR5
    Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
    Enjoy the flight!
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Komentáře • 204

  • @georgedeane2564
    @georgedeane2564 Před měsícem +173

    Wow, paying $325M is impressive just for a youtube video

    • @megaidiots1539
      @megaidiots1539 Před měsícem

      lol

    • @Phoenixs_Birdies
      @Phoenixs_Birdies Před měsícem +4

      He got it for free cuz PMDG sended him the file

    • @shoku2725
      @shoku2725 Před 29 dny +5

      @@Phoenixs_Birdies 🛫🤓🛬

    • @daveslow84
      @daveslow84 Před 24 dny +2

      Just shows you the huge amount of revenue you can make at 50k subs :p he's rolling in it!

  • @340ACP
    @340ACP Před 26 dny +6

    It will be interesting to see the Flight Factor B777 for x-Plane 12 when it becomes available, so far from the Alpha version that I’ve seen it looks pretty good. Not going to get into the x-Plane vs MSFS debate because it’s like talking about religion but, realism is always my first requirement when buying an expensive add on especially that I flew the triple as a captain for over 12 years. So let’s see what the future holds. What a great time to be a flight simmer!

  • @sailwesterly5444
    @sailwesterly5444 Před měsícem +3

    At last a proper review. Thanks. Laughed at your "knitpicking" the woollen covers on the seats.

  • @SapphireDreamsSimulations
    @SapphireDreamsSimulations Před měsícem +1

    Was waiting for your video! Nicely presented as always! Very excited to fly this on a long haul route over the weekend, what with the time compression and auto cruise features!

  • @SimPicks_real
    @SimPicks_real Před měsícem +3

    Yeah, there you are with the 777. Was waiting for it. Like always great content!

  • @paulkirkland3263
    @paulkirkland3263 Před měsícem +34

    This is the PMDG 777 review I've been looking forward to.

  • @johannberger9630
    @johannberger9630 Před měsícem +3

    Your review is the most important for me! So, thank you! Best regards dear ITBS!

  • @Pilot-2020
    @Pilot-2020 Před měsícem +133

    How's anyone going to afford the addon when it's current price tag is 350 million dollars😅

    • @CyclonesShorts
      @CyclonesShorts Před měsícem +6

      When in a few hours they lower the price.

    • @Itamem0no
      @Itamem0no Před měsícem +12

      They always put it on the site with IRL price before release. Somewhere in the evening (Zulu time), it will be reduced to the real price.

    • @sedeuphadude80
      @sedeuphadude80 Před měsícem +6

      Uhhhh… convince the bank to give you a really, really big loan? It could be hard to do that, though.

    • @aadvantagegold5220
      @aadvantagegold5220 Před měsícem +17

      You’re in luck! It’s on sale for 349,999,999.99! A real bargain!

    • @denziiey
      @denziiey Před měsícem

      @@aadvantagegold5220 XD

  • @jrod_pilot_miami
    @jrod_pilot_miami Před 23 dny +3

    I've never understood the insistence by simmers of modeled circuit breakers in modern airliners. Drives me insane. In real life you don't ever touch a circuit breaker, like ever. In fact, most airlines prohibit pilots from doing so (and it's not in any Non-Normal Procedure). This is by far the best addon of 2024.

  • @user-nk1gl6ck7x
    @user-nk1gl6ck7x Před 28 dny +2

    This is so awesome that a real life pilot is flying flight simulator and this shows how realistic this game is. Thx for taking the time and show us the real work of a pilot.

  • @PaulHendrick-nj7ku
    @PaulHendrick-nj7ku Před 27 dny

    The absolute best content from your channel. Top tier review as always. Great release by PMDG. I'm really enjoying it.

  • @Oomurodashi
    @Oomurodashi Před měsícem +48

    The real life 777-300er Captain and pilots were not kidding on the PMDG forums. The sounds are really off and not right.

    • @pavelpolska
      @pavelpolska Před měsícem +1

      Wtf do you know about the sounds and whether they are right or not?

    • @Glegh
      @Glegh Před měsícem +33

      ​@@pavelpolskayou don't need to be a pilot to know the sounds aren't right

    • @amirtak9886
      @amirtak9886 Před měsícem +8

      They're still using the old sounds from P3D. I hear no difference between this MSFS and P3D versions.

    • @iamjames8200
      @iamjames8200 Před měsícem +20

      @@amirtak9886 Classic PMDG, claiming things are built from the ground up when they aren't.

    • @amirtak9886
      @amirtak9886 Před měsícem +7

      @@iamjames8200 even the textures on the nose wheel tiller are from P3D.

  • @nicdecaz425
    @nicdecaz425 Před 20 dny

    Fantastic video and great insight, as close to the real thing as it gets! Thanks

  • @pythosdegothos6181
    @pythosdegothos6181 Před 29 dny +1

    LOVE that sound, but also, it's crazy to think with the out of cabin window view you are looking at an engine of the same diameter of a 737, just a monstrous engine nacelle. Gorgeous model.

  • @michaelheely
    @michaelheely Před měsícem +2

    holy moly the intro is very realistic looking. had only time to watch the intro so far.

    • @arescyp
      @arescyp Před měsícem +2

      exactly the same in FSX and P3Dv5 but the price was not that much high

  • @BKGBlueface
    @BKGBlueface Před měsícem +1

    This was the review everyone was waiting for ✅✅

  • @georgezaharoff
    @georgezaharoff Před 18 dny

    What’s impressive is the music is very close to the BA music. Incredible!

  • @julietsierrayankee2498
    @julietsierrayankee2498 Před 29 dny +2

    The Baro minima can be set at a faster speed by holding left click then dragging the cursor further away from the knob

  • @joshuaingram3470
    @joshuaingram3470 Před 28 dny +2

    Did anyone notice how incredible the wing flex characteristics were on takeoff? Looking very much forward to adding this to the hangar.

  • @user-mc7bh9yg9k
    @user-mc7bh9yg9k Před 28 dny

    Just flew from LAX to SFO to try this bird out and WHOA!!!!! In VR this thing is awesome! Thank you PMDG!

  • @PAPERandPENCILguy
    @PAPERandPENCILguy Před měsícem

    This was really cool, can’t wait to fly it tonight :)

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Před 26 dny

    Even though I own this sim, I still get blown away from watching other people's videos. Incredible realism.

  • @ApolloCochrane
    @ApolloCochrane Před 8 dny

    Loved the the video, and I'm loving the 777, but where do you get the great boarding audio from? I have PACX and GSX, I'd love to get a hold of some authentic boarding audio music with the safety announcements etc. if possible please sir!

  • @JW-wx7mk
    @JW-wx7mk Před 29 dny

    Great video, as always, well done.

  • @artswri
    @artswri Před 29 dny

    Great presentation as always!

  • @madyoda
    @madyoda Před 28 dny

    Great video once again. Lots to learn in this beauty

  • @RyanBreaker
    @RyanBreaker Před měsícem +8

    Those dogs barking at 13:53 don't sound quite right haha

  • @HarryTrent
    @HarryTrent Před 21 dnem

    Good video as always. Do you know if I buy pmdg for msfs 2020 it will work with 2024?

  • @rogerrees9845
    @rogerrees9845 Před 29 dny

    Another interesting presentation....Thank you so much....Totally out of my league in ability needed to operate the aircraft but it seems very realistic... Roger..Pembrokeshire

  • @cocox9948
    @cocox9948 Před 15 dny

    Great video ! I really like this 777,I have the A320 Fenix and 737 PMDG and my frames are pretty good almost 50 fps with all max to ultra but with this 777 start pretty good but sometimes i see my frames drop to 25 fps and is only with this airplane I think something is wrong

  • @thedreamliner007
    @thedreamliner007 Před měsícem

    Amazing landing!

  • @Boeing777FR
    @Boeing777FR Před 28 dny

    Hey we usually start the engines thanks to the auto start so you don’t need to wait for the N2 to rise to run the fuel ;) Anyway that’s a splendid simulated aircraft and a great video :)

  • @captsonko.9345
    @captsonko.9345 Před 29 dny

    Woo😮 these guys build this plane really,it's worth the price.pmdg is pmdg,study level machines.

  • @GhostChilliPepper
    @GhostChilliPepper Před měsícem +2

    look how far we have come

  • @FR-ek8lj
    @FR-ek8lj Před měsícem +10

    Brilliant video! Shame about those engine sounds… not quite there.

    • @buckachiddy
      @buckachiddy Před 29 dny +3

      Agree, awful. Reminds me of the defaults in XPlane 11.

  • @sietze023
    @sietze023 Před 22 dny

    Looks insane real! Are you using a sort of Nvidia filter or Reshade?

  • @pilottris
    @pilottris Před měsícem

    Do you use a preset for your flight sim? Just the colours look really good..

  • @Qu4DSprayz
    @Qu4DSprayz Před měsícem

    777 vid from my favorite MSFS creator? What more could you ask for!

  • @rennyzucker9120
    @rennyzucker9120 Před 29 dny

    Think I’m more excited about you flying out of KJFK lol

  • @activex7327
    @activex7327 Před 27 dny

    31:30 Those clouds/lighting looks super realistic, wow. Do you use any weather add-ons?

  • @ibrahimusluer3649
    @ibrahimusluer3649 Před 28 dny

    which sofware do you use for screen recording? in replay mode it does not show slats, flaps and gear movement.

  • @youyu521
    @youyu521 Před měsícem

    that intro is the jem

  • @mercurybullet6043
    @mercurybullet6043 Před měsícem +1

    How many nappies were changed during that crossing?
    Summer in London, haha.

  • @Flywithcraig
    @Flywithcraig Před měsícem

    How did you do the cabin announcements?

  • @TrueBlade-1889
    @TrueBlade-1889 Před 28 dny

    I assume the flickering as you pan around is due to your use of frame generation ?

  • @OzzyInSpace
    @OzzyInSpace Před měsícem +1

    That engine spool up though.... MMMM MMMM!

  • @phantomphreaq
    @phantomphreaq Před 17 dny

    Does this only use simbrief FLPs or does it also use the in game flight plans? I find simbrief difficult to use as I have discalculus

  • @no_limit_rxndy
    @no_limit_rxndy Před 22 dny

    nice however howcome there were some PTU sounds during the cabin walk?

    • @no_limit_rxndy
      @no_limit_rxndy Před 22 dny

      i still love this aircraft either way tho ❤❤

  • @mattyb5rockies
    @mattyb5rockies Před 15 dny +1

    I am curious why you wait until 30% N2 before selecting the fuel control switch to run during engine start. With the autostart system engaged, the EECs should monitor all of that for you. The only thing it will not auto shut down for is no positive increase of oil pressure. I mean if that is a company procedure to wait until 30% N2, then that is enough said and a valid answer. I am just curious really and want to know your thoughts or procedures.

    • @IntotheBlueSimulations
      @IntotheBlueSimulations  Před 11 dny

      Hi Matty,
      That was simply user error on my part - I didn’t realise Boeing had gotten clever over the years ; )
      My only Boeing experience comes from sims, predominantly with the 737 - hence why I (erroneously) waited on the N2.
      I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )

  • @leedove7255
    @leedove7255 Před měsícem

    Looks like a few animations need work like wipers and rotating tyres.

  • @helpstonfilms8778
    @helpstonfilms8778 Před 29 dny

    Incredible

  • @markscars1069
    @markscars1069 Před 26 dny

    It’s pretty epic. Combined with Lossless Scaling permitting TLOD of 400 giving 60fps aloft and a solid 1080p 40fps flying into IniBuilds EGLL same as you (does your vid capture software cost frames? I’m on an RTX 3080/i7 12700k/32GB DDR4), it is along with the BS Duke the best in the sim right now. And in VR the sheer scale of the flight deck really comes across.

  • @MrSunlander
    @MrSunlander Před 24 dny

    Ever consider making a video about making a video? I stick with stills as I haven't a clue where to start with film. Cheers!

  • @1Mr.Legend1
    @1Mr.Legend1 Před 29 dny

    You chose reverse no credit in tablet but used reverse on the after touchdown?

  • @rickb1428
    @rickb1428 Před měsícem +6

    Great review! I notice around 14:00 you can hear all sorts of cabin sounds. Is that included or a different add-on?

    • @Jannik_Stein
      @Jannik_Stein Před měsícem +6

      probably post edited, they're not a part of the aircraft

    • @managed9348
      @managed9348 Před měsícem +1

      Fsrealistic does stuff like that

    • @learjet55c
      @learjet55c Před měsícem +1

      Recorded within an Airbus

    • @Londres104
      @Londres104 Před měsícem +1

      If you listen you can hear the PTU barking, meaning this was Airbus recording. So no this was edited

  • @aleemosi
    @aleemosi Před 26 dny

    Can you do a video of your graphics configurations? Please

  • @malektalge
    @malektalge Před 29 dny

    Could anyone help me with a problem I’m having? I plug my controller into my pc and start the game and all the controller binds are empty. Seems everything is erased so the controller has no input

  • @pedrorocha7847
    @pedrorocha7847 Před měsícem +2

    Is it me or the engine is shacking at 26:00. That´s some next level realism! Excellent video review as always!

    • @santeris.4708
      @santeris.4708 Před měsícem

      Yeah, PMDG animated some engine wobble for this series

  • @ryano6071
    @ryano6071 Před 23 dny

    what’s the performance like compared to the iniA320N?

  • @Youtub77W
    @Youtub77W Před 28 dny +6

    After listening thousands of 777-300ER takeoff from the front and middle of the cabin + cockpit, and flying more than 10 times on this aircraft, I can confirm these are NOT REALISTIC and need bug improvements.

  • @Gabrielpqd95
    @Gabrielpqd95 Před 24 dny

    Can you share the collor settings your simulator?

  • @philipj.2169
    @philipj.2169 Před 27 dny

    Which reshade are you using?

  • @SoupGuyy
    @SoupGuyy Před měsícem

    Do you use tobi eye tracker?

  • @splashbrothers6308
    @splashbrothers6308 Před 29 dny +1

    What are your thoughts on MSFS 2024? They released the second trailer recently.

  • @UnitedAirlines4Life
    @UnitedAirlines4Life Před měsícem

    Any chance for a Taog UH-1 review?

  • @EyeSpyMyLittleEye
    @EyeSpyMyLittleEye Před 29 dny

    Any news on when its coming to marketplace?

  • @HarryTrent
    @HarryTrent Před 21 dnem

    You greased them landings 🙃

  • @nicholaspb9133
    @nicholaspb9133 Před 29 dny

    Strange how this BA livery doesn’t have the ‘to fly to serve’ silver logo after the BA wording on the fuselage. Seems like a big error on such an iconic livery

  • @happyteenpost5165
    @happyteenpost5165 Před 29 dny

    What are your reshade settings

  • @qGapz
    @qGapz Před měsícem +5

    they are really testing my patience by pricing it at 325 million

    • @InformedandBlessed520
      @InformedandBlessed520 Před měsícem +1

      Sent pics of the PDMG site to my buddies letting them know I am a little short. 😂😂😂

    • @qGapz
      @qGapz Před měsícem +1

      @@InformedandBlessed520 Any idea when the actual price will come?

    • @InformedandBlessed520
      @InformedandBlessed520 Před měsícem +1

      @@qGapz It was supposed to be today. Funny thing is the PrePar3D 777 version is priced normal. I say check back late today or tomorrow.

    • @qGapz
      @qGapz Před měsícem +1

      @@InformedandBlessed520 I guess. is there any way you can ask them? Don't mean to pry.

    • @InformedandBlessed520
      @InformedandBlessed520 Před měsícem

      @@qGapz I wish I had that type of power. The company doesn’t list a customer service number and refer all questions to their knowledge base and forums. All we can do is wait.

  • @marctbates
    @marctbates Před měsícem

    They need to sort out that nose wheel

  • @Bhavin_Lathia
    @Bhavin_Lathia Před měsícem

    This is great! Can someone tell me if it has crash feature inbuilt since it's boeing?

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Před měsícem +2

      Not on this as it’s a 777, but the PMDG 737 Max will have a pre grounding version of MCAS to enable it to force the nose down and a click spot to have the door blow off

  • @divemaster2452
    @divemaster2452 Před 27 dny +2

    Nice video.
    Few very minor things…
    You don’t need to put left forward fuel pump on for the APU. With AC power, it connects automatically.
    With auto start on, you don’t need to wait for 30% N2. Just set fuel control to run as soon as you select start, and the auto start system introduces fuel when it needs to.
    You always fly a minimum of vref+5 on approach.
    Otherwise pretty good knowledge.

    • @Q3ark
      @Q3ark Před 23 dny

      Hey dude, just wondering why it’s vref+5, is it necessary on all Boeings or is it unique to the 777?

    • @andrewbennett2582
      @andrewbennett2582 Před 21 dnem

      ⁠@@Q3arkIt’s Vref + Half the Headwind Component, but with a minimum of +5. If there are reported Gusts, its Vref + Half Headwind Component + the whole Gust Factor (Gust factor being the difference between the reported wind speed and gust speed), to a maximum of Vref + 15.
      Eg on runway 27 with wind 270/10G20 = Vref + 5(Half headwind component) +10 (gust factor is 10, difference between wind strength (10) and reported gust (20) so total VRef+15 (which is the max). If gusts were 25, still Vref + 15 as 15 is the max to add to Vref. Hope this helps. It may be for all Boeing, I’m not sure. But certainly for the 737, 777, and 787.

  • @aleksanderl
    @aleksanderl Před 28 dny

    are all the sounds original?

  • @greglawrance6086
    @greglawrance6086 Před 29 dny

    Hopefully the engines are GE115’s not 90’s! 😉😀

    • @greglawrance6086
      @greglawrance6086 Před 29 dny

      Just seen they refer to them as GE90-115 which is fair enough. You don’t need the left fuel pump for the APU as it can draw without on the ground.

  • @ilarikousa1500
    @ilarikousa1500 Před 29 dny

    @Into the blue simulations you may have upset FOQM there.. BAW SOP mandates autothrust whenever operational

  • @MrsPuggyWggyHaASquareCutPunt

    This or the Fenix if you had to pick one for the year? Speaking for a friend 🤭

    • @danielmalmros8532
      @danielmalmros8532 Před 29 dny +1

      Might be wrong person answering ;) But if he/she is more for Short/Medium haul Fenix would be the better choice even if 777 can do medium haul good to ofc.
      PMDG is however more fps friendly and i was suprised how smooth everything felt in 777, considering how weak pc i have, almost as smooth as with the PMDG 737NG family.

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Před 26 dny

    They should add rare ufo 🛸 sightings lol

  • @baptistecbn3049
    @baptistecbn3049 Před měsícem +1

    Available in the marketplace ?

    • @joshuadunston774
      @joshuadunston774 Před měsícem

      No it's on PMDG's website for 325M$ right now it should be in the marketplace in the upcoming weeks!

  • @AwesomeAmeya0114
    @AwesomeAmeya0114 Před měsícem +3

    For those wondering why it's the price of every single one of my organs combined, it's because they're finishing up their Securing Aircraft Checklist before leaving it to the general public 😂. Around Maybe 18:00-1900z, we should get it at normal price

    • @Londres104
      @Londres104 Před měsícem

      “One of your organs” was the best comparison to the price😭

    • @AwesomeAmeya0114
      @AwesomeAmeya0114 Před 28 dny +1

      @@Londres104 Haha thanks 😆

  • @totruav0015
    @totruav0015 Před měsícem +11

    WHYS IT 324 MILLION

    • @denziiey
      @denziiey Před měsícem +1

      so that people can't buy it yet. they're probably prepping the servers for the overload

    • @RyanBreaker
      @RyanBreaker Před měsícem +4

      Well yeah that's how much a 777 costs.

    • @totruav0015
      @totruav0015 Před měsícem +4

      @@denziiey lmfao imagine if someone buys it ☠️

    • @denziiey
      @denziiey Před měsícem +2

      @@totruav0015 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @ysteineker7001
    @ysteineker7001 Před 29 dny +1

    Do you know the difference between B777 and B737-900? I don't. Toying around at PMDG site, update and clicking - hope to get rid of fun price, and sale started.
    Then --- WOW - the price looks right! $50. Paypaled and start download - unzip I noticed I purchased B737-900.. Wasted $50 - I own the -700, never going to use -900.
    Well at least you guys can shake your heads and have a laugh.
    Thanks for the review. It looks similar to 767, I am familiar with. I am too old to learn something very different.
    BTW - waiting for email confirmation of B777 purchase now. Yes , I triple checked the basket first....

    • @nilsdietrich209
      @nilsdietrich209 Před 28 dny

      737-900 ER flys different than the 700. You should def give it a spin. Cheers mate.

  • @ManielJackiel
    @ManielJackiel Před měsícem +1

    When is the damn place going to release? They set the price at 324million. They wanna release it at 12am 26th of June? Sigh!

  • @Karibanu
    @Karibanu Před měsícem

    JFK not swearing at you & not letting a/c on the runway after clearance, so unrealistic.
    I guess I might fly one on a Japanese domestic route, but otherwise I'm not sure what I'd do with this thing. That was a nice landing, how many goes was that? :D
    Edit: does it handle RNP AR curved approaches properly, or are they still synthesising waypoints?

  • @blind-oxmusic2570
    @blind-oxmusic2570 Před 29 dny

    325M , I CAN AFFORD THAT !!!

  • @travisbouton4056
    @travisbouton4056 Před 29 dny

    Still upset the last 50 plus dollar addon aircraft doesn't work. Freezes ect... Pmdg fix your stuff too on Xbox
    50 50

  • @stevenrojas8251
    @stevenrojas8251 Před měsícem +1

    Classic PMDG pricing

  • @jeeps7er
    @jeeps7er Před 29 dny

    For $77 I'd like the wipers to actually clear the rain.

  • @Avxeryaep
    @Avxeryaep Před měsícem +1

    How did u get it if it's 325M?

  • @Dalamain
    @Dalamain Před 29 dny

    "a bigger version of the 737" ... that sounds insulting lol

  • @lactoese
    @lactoese Před 29 dny

    That engine pylon model is going to annoy me

  • @airmehdimed3570
    @airmehdimed3570 Před měsícem +1

    Guys. Stop using DX12 😂😂😂

  • @cetsy2023
    @cetsy2023 Před měsícem

    Noice.

  • @David-ms5hv
    @David-ms5hv Před měsícem

    Is the pmdg 777 on xbox

    • @evanalca932
      @evanalca932 Před měsícem

      pas encore, j'espère que nous ne devrons pas encore attendre un an !

  • @hitgu1
    @hitgu1 Před měsícem

    I want to know if anyone bought it at its current price haha

  • @jaime77W
    @jaime77W Před 29 dny +1

    Should PMDG keep raising the bar or is just very good, good enough? This may be "study level" but it lacks that magic "feel there" component. On many accounts like sounds, engine response, lack of CBs and lack of class 3 EFB to name a few, this is far from my expectation of having PMDG stuffing a real 777 into our computers and making it feel alive.

  • @jep1103
    @jep1103 Před 23 dny

    I have a 4090 my graphics look nothing like this

  • @joegarrett2005
    @joegarrett2005 Před měsícem

    I’m paying 325 million for the 777 idc

  • @Winwin-ds7cc
    @Winwin-ds7cc Před 27 dny +1

    The first person😊

  • @invertedflatspin9676
    @invertedflatspin9676 Před 28 dny

    Lots of squawks with this bird out of the gate. Don't get me wrong. PMDG's products are top of the line for MSFS, but, I did not expect that after such a long wait and testing by real pilots, that things as simple as the speed tape not working correctly at altitude would present itself. Let me begin and prepare for the onslaught of negative comments:
    1. Speed tape, FL370, M.856 "airspeed low" alarms constant.
    2. Captain's side main instrument panel buttons and knobs do nothing.
    3. Captain's side accept, reject, cancel buttons do nothing.
    4. FO side L inboard, Center, R inboard, etc. does nothing.
    Too many other squawks to mention right now as I am still on a long haul test flight. It could be just that something went wrong for me on the download, but I am finding a lot of inconsistencies for this long awaited product. PMDG did an outstanding job on the visuals though. The 777 is a wonderful girl and I will continue to enjoy her now, while awaiting any patches/fixes which are always and issue with any software product. Thanks so much PMDG.