Mwaf ati Ruto must not Go we wait till 2027 ? If the people are not confident in his leadership then he must resign or be impeached. No sane person can defend and praise Ruto
Mwaf Uhuru is not our target right now.Lets keep the conversation strictly on this revolution atleast we get things done discussions za history ni baadae
Mwaf. Please read the Nation Newspaper on Saturday. It was indicated that Koome had a frosty relationship with Ruto and that there are instances where he was not inolved in matters e.g the King's visit and when planning how to deal with these protests. It was stated that Ruto took advantage of the situation
Mwaf the diff between this regime and Uhuru regime is that during Uhuru time Pple we're not united and they we're not yet fed up. Right now Pple are fed up and tired with politicians bullshit.
Let's give credit where credit is due. The GenZ guy said it correct and on point. Police brutality should not be normalized and if it already has been in us older guys, we need to change our mentality ASAP
36:24 kuna seismic shift kubwa in times. You can't compare the Kibaki era to the past and current regimes as there have been so many developments, from a new constitution to a new civic awakening among the masses to a tremendous decrease in tribal politics.
Mwaf I agree with you on a lot but this time bro you are wrong. No one is sanitizing Uhuru, wote ni wabaya, the problem is that you are comparing, stop comparing eveil, evil is evil, there is no lesser evil.
Zi mwaf kuna vitu hazidai 2 cents zako. Huyu jamaa amefanya ivi juu ya pressure na nature ya protesters. The other time hawangedu ivo juu excuse ilikua ni ODM protesters. So hakuna credit unafaa kupea huyu msee
I'm a huge fan of iko nini and most of the times I'm always in line with the assumptions and thoughts of you guys,but of all the episodes I've followed leo nayo mwaf umeuma nje,ama all this is for you to keep the topic going coz whatever you are talking about iko tu kwa same point hutaki kuona the bigger picture here,anyway to sort this out,you were on record saying for the first time in kenya this was the most peaceful protests ever carried out in kenya,wachana na io story yako ya police brutality that one will always be there,na sio kenya pekee,ata you favourite comparison country US,the fact is we have all faced a shady kenya but it's time for change,so stop comparing ooh this happened in 2007 uhuru this kibaki that,I mean so unaprefer tunyamaze ruto aendelee same way hao wengine walifanya ama,come on let's embrace change and join together
It's good to be realistic and acknowledge all incidents and at the same time acknowledge the progress that is taking place...it's not a competition which generation has done what considering all protests have been for patriotic changes for our country that we all belong to
As a Gen Z, it can be hard to recognize the small wins Mwaf is talking about. We want to see real change, like Mutisya mentioned, such as appointing competent people. However, we can't leave out the progress the older generation is seeing. I think we need each other's perspectives; otherwise, Gen Z will become numb, as Mutisya is saying, and keep asking for more without realizing the small changes.
Mwaf bana. Stop diverting attention to Uhuru. Hatukatai he was and is a devil but those are sideshows. Now we concentrate on The Sugoi Butcher. NEVER CONGRATULATE A FISH FOR SWIMMING, PLEASE!!!
I'd say,you choose how to think about it.There's no pride in suffering. Don't make it about the Lous.That would be very shameful for anyone who thinks that wayThere's no lesser death. Focus!
Sincerely, after listening to you Mwaf, huwezi sifu mse kwa job ako elected kufanya kitambo...why did we have to loose many innocent lives for action to be done...Ruto mwenyewe alisema kitambo "he knows more than some of his CS's".....He ought to have dismissed this cabinet like from day one.
As Kenyans and as Africans tumezoea bad govervance so that if leaders for once do the right thing tunawasifu sana. It's a right for every Kenyan to have good medication, education, free corruption etc
For the first time in the history of Kenya snippers have been ised on innocent protesters then mtu anasema hio ni gain. Picking bodies and hiding them ati progress
Mwaf is always Mr. Right, never acknowledges the point of view of the other person. Then best way is to always chill and listen to him rant like Ian and Rapcha does
Please stop saying that about Ruto, there has never been protests like this one of Genzs it's actually annoying to hear you mwaf saying it's Ruto. It's all pressure from Gen Z s why are you giving Ruto credit when Kenyans are being retrieved from a quarry. Get serious ama usalimiwe pia wewe!
During this entire situation it is unfortunate Mwaf is yet to interview Genzs. Maybe this week you can try to find 2 Genzs not necessarily famous people, so that we can hear from them. As one of them I feel like it would be great to hear from the horse's mouth.
This quite a heated discussion, my 2 scents,, @mwafrika i agree with you theres some change, but remember the change is in police is due to the pressure,, the president firing his cabinet is due to the amount of pressure we have inserted. We can’t ignore the fact that in the past our brothers and sisters we lost in the past due to police brutality, but let’s say now we are putting enough pressure nationally. The police are not taking accountability, they are submitting to pressure
Mwaf sare gate keeping. These things Ruto has done are tactical. Attitudes have not changed. Cabinets have been dissolved before IG haumii sana. He will have a nice pension and parastatal appointment. I haven't seen anything that shows change will happen.
Point of correction Dr. Oyuga is alive, she survived. On the issue of police brutality has been there since the Moi era, the fact that Koome resigned doesn't mean that WSR has done enough progress only prosecution of the perpetrators of the evil act and also the fired Cabinet secretaries must be audited and those found corrupt be prosecuted hence their loot be recovered.
Mwaf unafikiria na kichwa gani? Punguza kunyonga bro 😅. Unabishana vitu zingine ata hazi-make sense. Tuko present, the guy resigning is not being held accountable, that’s a government move kutuliza pressure ya protest
Kama vile mutisya amesema, you don't laud the fish for swimming. Why? because he was supposed to do it right from the beginning of his tenure since we the people put him on the ballot
Mwaf Ur right to have Ur opinion....and those who want ruto to resign have a right to their opinion... this mwaf is different from the one who got a letter from cck while in the US ...my opinion of mwaf is that he loves to complain alot which is okay and once u see that u will accept him for who he is....
56:15 Individuals ndio wasee hutugeuza na wanatufinya nyuma msee it is always about the individuals.... Corruption for a time iliisha 202 but was brought back by Kibaki mwenyewe .... Juu yeye kama individual alikua ana benefit...
Mwaf you should even listen to yourself. Nobody went to protest for Ruto to kill people then the police inspekta to resign then we clap for him. There is too much evil going on in this country.
Huyu mwaf ni either amepewa kituu ama ameingiza njevee mbona all of a sadden ameanza kuona zakayo saint why compare zakayo with other previous presidents
38:06 The fish promised to name the people who robbed the coffers of this nation dry before he became president. We want him to walk the talk or in this analogy swim as he promised.
Kuna jamaa amesema hapo yako ni ' Unnecessary talks'. Hapo ako na point, every move ruto ana make ni very calculated, maybe ni yeye ame influence hii mambo under water. Hakuna accountability yoyote naona.
Mwaf there is something you are not getting. Ruto has just been cornered and that is why he is doing what he is doing. This guy is more lethal than all the other presidents. In fact, he is just like Museveni and Kagame. He is just biting the humble pie and not taking responsibility as you claim. Politics is a very complex game that we cannot just analyze from your point of argument
Mwaf is the same person who recently said “If a police officer kills a citizen , it is the president who has killed” Loosely translated to Ruto has killed. Mwaf acknowledging a killer’s actions after a citizen has lost life is quite absurd.Comparing two killers and being okay with the lesser evil one is sick. Iam a Luo who understands violence and I think we should be on the fore front to want Ruto out. Starehe yako ukiwa Starehe boys centre ilikua kunyonga tu . Bure kabisa.
39:19 Nikama Mwaf haoni ilikua 11th hour for Ruto. Kibaki na Uhuru hakuna mtu aliwai wachomea parliament... Na kama si kulipa bloggers watu wangefika Statehuose na angekua ameenda home mapema veryfast
Mwaf nikama ume chunwa kakitu, tunakuona vile unakuja. Sahii bado hakuna mtu anapata credits, Kenya bado ni chafu na tunaiosha pole pole. Hatuja fika, mambo ni mingi
Na mwaf Kuna misconception you have ati wajaka ndio tu wanajua police brutality, boss watu wa mount Kenya wameface police brutality since precolonial period.
Take chill pill people I’m with Mwaf and I think the dude making valid points and I too share same sentiments nothing wrong with differences of opinions
Of course the IG didn't resign. He was forced to resign. The same way Uhuru forced Kimaiyo and Gichangi of NIS to resign after West Gate attacks. Claiming that it was about 'resigning' is just being diplomatic
Mwaf last year, 75 people died during protest, why did not ruto take action or IG resign, so ruto is just doing coz of GEN Z pressure, not coz he wants to, so I don't get what u are saying.
Mwafreeka has become so unreasonable these days.You kept fighting the ruto government and now that everyone is fighting it you start sympathizing..you suffering from STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.
Mwaf is allergic to the truth 😂😂
Mwaf kubali kushindwa don't underestimate the pressure Gen Z wameweka. Don't give Ruto credit for being forced to do the right thing.
Mwaf ati Ruto must not Go we wait till 2027 ? If the people are not confident in his leadership then he must resign or be impeached. No sane person can defend and praise Ruto
Mwaf thinks that because he is older than the average Iko Nini listener he is smarter.
I always tell Mwaf to cease taking/analysing about politics. Not informed at all
Mwaf is a government apologist...😢😢😢
Mwaf Uhuru is not our target right now.Lets keep the conversation strictly on this revolution atleast we get things done discussions za history ni baadae
You can't argue with Mwaf and win, "he's always correct "Ian knows that, that's why he's quiet 😅
Mwaf.
Please read the Nation Newspaper on Saturday. It was indicated that Koome had a frosty relationship with Ruto and that there are instances where he was not inolved in matters e.g the King's visit and when planning how to deal with these protests.
It was stated that Ruto took advantage of the situation
Really Mwaf!! Really?? Pliz kojoa ulale
Wachaneni na mwaf namtetea kidogo, msi anguke nae
Mwaf surely, so we shouldn’t protest because no one was answerable during Uhuru’s tenure ?
Mwaf kidogo umeenda left.....
Mwaf shenzi
Asalimiwe na tuchome hii studio yake
Anyone thinking Matiang'i warr we'll find ourselves on the island of Kajitombe!!
Mwaf the diff between this regime and Uhuru regime is that during Uhuru time Pple we're not united and they we're not yet fed up. Right now Pple are fed up and tired with politicians bullshit.
Let's give credit where credit is due. The GenZ guy said it correct and on point. Police brutality should not be normalized and if it already has been in us older guys, we need to change our mentality ASAP
44:07 Big up Mutisya for patiently bringing up this point 👏
We can’t all be wrong and you’re right
Mwaf sometimes it's not weak to listen and agree.
Mwaf it's not time for comparisons nkt!
36:24 kuna seismic shift kubwa in times. You can't compare the Kibaki era to the past and current regimes as there have been so many developments, from a new constitution to a new civic awakening among the masses to a tremendous decrease in tribal politics.
Mwaf in his feelings! lamba glucose utuliye
Mwaf you want to tell us simply because it was largely Luos killed you understand more than other people who are not Luos.? I dont think so.
Mwaf I agree with you on a lot but this time bro you are wrong. No one is sanitizing Uhuru, wote ni wabaya, the problem is that you are comparing, stop comparing eveil, evil is evil, there is no lesser evil.
Kindly stop comparing injustices.
Your ability to defend an extremely obtuse point is quite impressive Mwaf... Historical FFS?!!
Zi mwaf kuna vitu hazidai 2 cents zako. Huyu jamaa amefanya ivi juu ya pressure na nature ya protesters. The other time hawangedu ivo juu excuse ilikua ni ODM protesters. So hakuna credit unafaa kupea huyu msee
I'm a huge fan of iko nini and most of the times I'm always in line with the assumptions and thoughts of you guys,but of all the episodes I've followed leo nayo mwaf umeuma nje,ama all this is for you to keep the topic going coz whatever you are talking about iko tu kwa same point hutaki kuona the bigger picture here,anyway to sort this out,you were on record saying for the first time in kenya this was the most peaceful protests ever carried out in kenya,wachana na io story yako ya police brutality that one will always be there,na sio kenya pekee,ata you favourite comparison country US,the fact is we have all faced a shady kenya but it's time for change,so stop comparing ooh this happened in 2007 uhuru this kibaki that,I mean so unaprefer tunyamaze ruto aendelee same way hao wengine walifanya ama,come on let's embrace change and join together
It's good to be realistic and acknowledge all incidents and at the same time acknowledge the progress that is taking place...it's not a competition which generation has done what considering all protests have been for patriotic changes for our country that we all belong to
As a Gen Z, it can be hard to recognize the small wins Mwaf is talking about. We want to see real change, like Mutisya mentioned, such as appointing competent people. However, we can't leave out the progress the older generation is seeing. I think we need each other's perspectives; otherwise, Gen Z will become numb, as Mutisya is saying, and keep asking for more without realizing the small changes.
Revolution continua
Mwaf bana. Stop diverting attention to Uhuru. Hatukatai he was and is a devil but those are sideshows. Now we concentrate on The Sugoi Butcher. NEVER CONGRATULATE A FISH FOR SWIMMING, PLEASE!!!
I'd say,you choose how to think about it.There's no pride in suffering. Don't make it about the Lous.That would be very shameful for anyone who thinks that wayThere's no lesser death. Focus!
Sincerely, after listening to you Mwaf, huwezi sifu mse kwa job ako elected kufanya kitambo...why did we have to loose many innocent lives for action to be done...Ruto mwenyewe alisema kitambo "he knows more than some of his CS's".....He ought to have dismissed this cabinet like from day one.
As Kenyans and as Africans tumezoea bad govervance so that if leaders for once do the right thing tunawasifu sana. It's a right for every Kenyan to have good medication, education, free corruption etc
Mwaf is Right! issue ni hajui kueleza.
Mwaf i disagree with you point of view comparing Uhuru with ruto, its about now...weeee wacha
Watched for 37 min and I can't continue with this argument. Kuchoma sana am sure the guest is feeling offended akiskia una side na the government
Oyaah Mwaf huyo boiz alikufunika bro 😃😃! DONT PRAISE A FISH FOR SWIMMING!
Haha now that majority of the relieved CS's are now back I wonder what would be of this session 😂😂
For the first time in the history of Kenya snippers have been ised on innocent protesters then mtu anasema hio ni gain. Picking bodies and hiding them ati progress
Mwaf what's wrong with you?
but truth be told, mwaf ako sawa anaweight both sides
Mkuu... ume derail the whole understanding of what is happening... there is nothing like a comparison of injustices.
Mwaf sasa ako ka-ji-to-mbee anadhani atakujiwa ka haja support hii gava ya madingo.
Mwaf is always Mr. Right, never acknowledges the point of view of the other person. Then best way is to always chill and listen to him rant like Ian and Rapcha does
Eish hapa mwaf you starting to sound like Kibe and watson
Mwaf anaramba rasa ya ruto..kajitombee😊
Please stop saying that about Ruto, there has never been protests like this one of Genzs it's actually annoying to hear you mwaf saying it's Ruto. It's all pressure from Gen Z s why are you giving Ruto credit when Kenyans are being retrieved from a quarry. Get serious ama usalimiwe pia wewe!
Mwaf seriously you are very annoying and your reasoning is beyond Norma I'm very disappointed mwaf. Sorry
Are you people not realizing that appropriation bill was signed which makes the finance bill active. Ruto is kngiving
During this entire situation it is unfortunate Mwaf is yet to interview Genzs. Maybe this week you can try to find 2 Genzs not necessarily famous people, so that we can hear from them. As one of them I feel like it would be great to hear from the horse's mouth.
Mwaf enda Kaji Tombe... Senji...
Any one with brains can tell Mwaff alitemebelewa na watu wa Ruto.
Mwaf acha Shakur aonge, acha mutisya aonge, Mwaf unaongea sana, acha mwenye unainterview aonge, ungejiinterview if u didnt want other opinions
Kweli
Anaongea saana
This quite a heated discussion, my 2 scents,, @mwafrika i agree with you theres some change, but remember the change is in police is due to the pressure,, the president firing his cabinet is due to the amount of pressure we have inserted. We can’t ignore the fact that in the past our brothers and sisters we lost in the past due to police brutality, but let’s say now we are putting enough pressure nationally. The police are not taking accountability, they are submitting to pressure
Mwaf sare gate keeping. These things Ruto has done are tactical. Attitudes have not changed. Cabinets have been dissolved before IG haumii sana. He will have a nice pension and parastatal appointment. I haven't seen anything that shows change will happen.
Point of correction Dr. Oyuga is alive, she survived. On the issue of police brutality has been there since the Moi era, the fact that Koome resigned doesn't mean that WSR has done enough progress only prosecution of the perpetrators of the evil act and also the fired Cabinet secretaries must be audited and those found corrupt be prosecuted hence their loot be recovered.
Mwaf unafikiria na kichwa gani? Punguza kunyonga bro 😅. Unabishana vitu zingine ata hazi-make sense. Tuko present, the guy resigning is not being held accountable, that’s a government move kutuliza pressure ya protest
Mwaf ni mafi😅
Kama vile mutisya amesema, you don't laud the fish for swimming. Why? because he was supposed to do it right from the beginning of his tenure since we the people put him on the ballot
Mwaf your negativity joh!
Prison warden haezi niambia shet huyu na kanjo hakuna diff😂
Mwaf hapo ziii
Mwaf Ur right to have Ur opinion....and those who want ruto to resign have a right to their opinion... this mwaf is different from the one who got a letter from cck while in the US ...my opinion of mwaf is that he loves to complain alot which is okay and once u see that u will accept him for who he is....
56:15 Individuals ndio wasee hutugeuza na wanatufinya nyuma msee it is always about the individuals.... Corruption for a time iliisha 202 but was brought back by Kibaki mwenyewe .... Juu yeye kama individual alikua ana benefit...
Huyu ninja kirauñi no more fire 🔥🔥🔥 sana
Mwaf you should even listen to yourself. Nobody went to protest for Ruto to kill people then the police inspekta to resign then we clap for him. There is too much evil going on in this country.
Hakuna kitu Ruto amefanya boss, sacrificing one or two people is nonsense first of all those people never deserved to die in the first place.
Guy needs mental health support
Huyu mwaf ni either amepewa kituu ama ameingiza njevee
mbona all of a sadden ameanza
kuona zakayo saint why compare
zakayo with other previous presidents
Mwaf anasema polisi mdogo ashikwe lakini mkubwa aende free..... hii si accountability hii ni kufinyilia msee mdogo
38:06 The fish promised to name the people who robbed the coffers of this nation dry before he became president. We want him to walk the talk or in this analogy swim as he promised.
Mwaf anafikiria na matako😂
Mwaf kubali, Raila amekua akisanitize hizo mauaji kwa hizo regime zingine. Ata sai anataka kusanitize hawa
Kuna jamaa amesema hapo yako ni ' Unnecessary talks'. Hapo ako na point, every move ruto ana make ni very calculated, maybe ni yeye ame influence hii mambo under water. Hakuna accountability yoyote naona.
Mwaf there is something you are not getting. Ruto has just been cornered and that is why he is doing what he is doing. This guy is more lethal than all the other presidents. In fact, he is just like Museveni and Kagame. He is just biting the humble pie and not taking responsibility as you claim. Politics is a very complex game that we cannot just analyze from your point of argument
Iko nini
Mwaf is the same person who recently said “If a police officer kills a citizen , it is the president who has killed”
Loosely translated to Ruto has killed.
Mwaf acknowledging a killer’s actions after a citizen has lost life is quite absurd.Comparing two killers and being okay with the lesser evil one is sick.
Iam a Luo who understands violence and I think we should be on the fore front to want Ruto out.
Starehe yako ukiwa Starehe boys centre ilikua kunyonga tu . Bure kabisa.
Mwaf saa zingine reasoning yako imezeeka.
Anareason kama a villager in nyanza in the 1990s.anashinda akituambia story za luos hapa.
Mwaf Ni fala tu
Mwaf stop your pro Ruto campaign. Too much of it and getting more open and blatant
39:19 Nikama Mwaf haoni ilikua 11th hour for Ruto. Kibaki na Uhuru hakuna mtu aliwai wachomea parliament... Na kama si kulipa bloggers watu wangefika Statehuose na angekua ameenda home mapema veryfast
Mwaf nikama ume chunwa kakitu, tunakuona vile unakuja. Sahii bado hakuna mtu anapata credits, Kenya bado ni chafu na tunaiosha pole pole. Hatuja fika, mambo ni mingi
The moment he started saying Kenyans wako na zile form za kusema Kila mtu amelipwa nilianza kumwonea eighteen
Mwaf be licking ruto intestine 😂😂😂 ajab
Alafu ile audit ya Mdvd ya 4 Billion during vetting ni ya kuwafumba macho cos what I know man is worthy over 15 Billion
Mwaf umelipwa kubali ni njaa yako unaponesha. Sasa Ruto ni nini amefanya so far
ukijikuta unatetea msee amemada mama na mtoi unafaa kujua kuna shida
Mwaf Mgema akisifiwa Tembo anatengeza supu. Ruto anezakua amepak tu gari tukizubaa atoke na chopper maze ile design tubaki tumezubaa😂😂😂
I am sorry for this guy but mwishowe atafungwa.
Don't forget Mathew iteere atrocities.
Na mwaf Kuna misconception you have ati wajaka ndio tu wanajua police brutality, boss watu wa mount Kenya wameface police brutality since precolonial period.
Take chill pill people I’m with Mwaf and I think the dude making valid points and I too share same sentiments nothing wrong with differences of opinions
I love the discussion guys, keep it up watching from Florida, USA.i can watch Bernard anymore😮
I’m lonely here, and I wish to meet the right person soon
We kwendaa😂😂
@@TerenceQuinton 🤣😂🤣😂
Mwaf tunakujua....we saw you in Whitehouse
Mwaf you have a problem with Uhuru...
Uhuru didn’t have the same pressure
@Mutisya👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Mwaf unasinya. 😂
Of course the IG didn't resign. He was forced to resign. The same way Uhuru forced Kimaiyo and Gichangi of NIS to resign after West Gate attacks. Claiming that it was about 'resigning' is just being diplomatic
Yes that's true.mwafreka doesn't understand shit but anatry kujifanya ako na monopoly of understanding.
Mwaf... Gen Z wataanguka na wewe🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mwaf last year, 75 people died during protest, why did not ruto take action or IG resign, so ruto is just doing coz of GEN Z pressure, not coz he wants to, so I don't get what u are saying.
Mwafreeka has become so unreasonable these days.You kept fighting the ruto government and now that everyone is fighting it you start sympathizing..you suffering from STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.
Mwaf learn to listen to views challenging yours. Don't over defend yourself. Take feedback and move- you can't give feedback to yourself