New Consoles BREAK Crash Team Racing... Here's Why
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled is playable on Next Gen Consoles. However, it seems to break quite a bit for online play. Yea this is an issue.
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They should just disable skipping the intro for the online. That’ll rectify most of the problem.
Just because beenox stopped adding content to the game, doesn’t mean they can’t fix bugs and do patches and whatnot. I hope they decide to fix online
Worse, coz I actually HAVE expectations for Ps online to be good.
Agreed they can just sprinkle in a few bug fixes even though they dont add content anymore
I don’t think Beenox will add much else to CTR. They could comeback in future for another update but not sure on that.
It’s seems clear Activision are moving away from the racing genre for now. The games poor online system, difficulty putting it on all platforms and also how much content they put in CTR makes a CTR sequel or new racing game extremely unlikely especially anytime soon.
If the PvP game is a party game that will be much better for Activision. A party game will be easier to put on all platforms and also likely to have a better online network system. We will see.
@@marklundie7637 Additionally, Beenox had outright said in a Twitter post that they were moving away to a new project, so they aren't going to be able to keep the server running forever.
Hopefully Beenox will have earned enough profit to afford a better server by the time we see what their next game is.
Yeah i just wish Beenox could continue support for CTR Nitro Fueled and finish the job as in the last few characters that they need to add to the roster remaining bug fixes as well as adding the most requested CNK story mode, Beenox could do that if they made a Next Generation Edition port which could happen if Activision needs Crash for a year but don't have any projects ready for that year, kinda like in 2018 where there was no "New" Crash game but ports of N Sane Trilogy to fill in the void while Spyro Reignited Trilogy was that year's annual family console game for both of Activision's yearly quotas.
I'm not a developer, but I have been programming for years now.
I'm 90 percent sure this is what the problem is:
This must have been a way for the server to detect players that have infinite loading screen problems. Remember that when the game came out, everyone was using a PS4, so the loading times shouldn't have been that different.
So let's say, player A has reached the start of the match, but player B is still in the loading screen. They are both using the same console so they should've reached the start of the match at the same time. When this happens, the server believes that the reason player B hasn't gotten to the start of the match yet, is because he is stuck in an infinite loading screen and therefore removes him from the match.
Now that there's a next gen console that loads much faster than the previous one, a PS5 user can easily reach the start of the match before a PS4 users ends their loading screen. And since the game was not designed to consider the speed of two different generations of consoles, it would still count the PS4 player as someone who is stuck in the loading screen(even though he actually isn't) and kick him out.
It seems that my line of thinking was kinda headed in the right direction
TLDR
If this the case the fix shouldn't be too hard to implement.
Extending the time the game takes to flag someone as stuck should do the trick, for what i understand not even by that much, 2 to 3 second more seems about right.
Woo I made a small cameo. Great to have you back I've been waiting for this video!
Cameos are cool
Ok now skeleton crash must be a new skin for crash in crash on the run
Unlock it for dying 100 times
@@Dante_Sparda_DMC this is too good now
Lmao
I love the thumbnail. Reminds me of the “One Eternity Later” ending in Spongebob episode “Squid on Strike”!
Lol oh my god can they just come back to the game already😂.
They've likely already moved on. Its been almost a year since they stopped support and its unlikely they would just be sitting around.
Do makers ever do that tho :/
@TKize777 nope
At least Team Sonic Racing didn’t have this issue...Yeah, I said it
4:40 I have become one with the dirt
Haven’t seen something like that since Crash Nitro Kart
Day one patch should have included the online fix. It never happened, and it never will :/ I don't understand how Beenox could do such a lame work in 2019. And yes, this is the worst online experience of my life. It's not normal to wait 40 minutes to play. Really frustrating.
This reminds me of _Need For Speed Carbon (PSP) online_
If you ran the game on the UMD, it would load normally. But if you ran the ISO (digital), everything loads so fast that the race cancels out, because the match gets tired of waiting for your UMD buddies to load.
Yeah, i noticed that a few days ago, too bad coz NF is one of my fave online games.
Heck, there was an hour long update in oct or nov, idk y, so you would think this would have been fixed
I have the game on both ps5 and series x and I can confirm as for now skipping the intro map footage increases the probability of getting stuck on the starting line, I have tested it more on ps5 though
So this is happening on all 5 consoles and not just on Playstation
@@derektereve286 no, just next gen
If they don't want to add more new content then it's fine. But stoping supporting the game with so much bugs and nearly unplayable online, is very bad
Hey CGE, I work in game QA. What you've done here is what we call "Regression Testing" and based on your bug report I'm about 90% certain you were right on the money about load times causing conflict.
I heard of a workaround for this issue that seems to work most of the time. Put CTR on an external HDD (to mimic the load speed of the PS4), and turn on intro cutscenes, that way you load in the same time as everyone else. I think basically the whole issue with this is that since the PS5 loads faster, you load in earlier, and now that online is so mixed with PS4/5 players there's a lot of desync between players' loading times. Everyone needs to load in at the same time for the online lobby to work. If someone loads in too early, it breaks the lobby.
So yeah, while the workaround I mentioned is a bit pricey, it works. And it's not perfect, but, from the one person I did know of who tried that, he had a decent success rate.
I've been having the same types of issues playing online with my Xbox One. I noticed last night that other players were glitching and jumping around randomly on the screen. Felt like I was playing Sugar Rush on Wreck it Ralph
4:35 - That looks like as if the 2 lobbies were loaded on top of each other into 1.
What a mess.
WOW, and yesterday I was thinking about getting back to CTR. Thanks for info...
Wouldn't it be cool if they made a nitro kart adventure mode dlc? Or if they made an option where on the nitro kart tracks it would allow you to either have the original version of the track which has the magnet segments or just leaving it how it is
Will this game ever get on steam for pc? Would be epic.
Sad to see my favourite game falling apart like this. CTR doesnt deserves this!!!!
It’s working fine on PS5. At least it is here
@@siloPIRATE same on switch
I remember being in the Discord stream that u originally found this issue. We all got super confused about the problems with the CTR lobbies...
But outside of that we created loads of inside jokes that day and had a ton of fun lol.
Also, "Don't you dare go lore on me! If you go lore on me, Shooter, I will shoot you out of your editor role!" - CGE, Dec 21, 2020
That is like... your best quote ever.
So, 60fps is still a dream?
It still counts as a ps4 game... So it would be crossplay, which is likely why it gets confused, its not a good idea to mix different amounts of fps goals like that
Not for Yuzu emu
The main reason we never got 60fps is because as the game is right now, higher framerate causes higher acceleration, which was discovered with switch emulation, obviously if people we're going faster just because they had 60fps that would break the game.
@@Revvylo Exactly, and it would likely look weird, If it was a small difference in fps like 30 vs 35 fps, it may not be so bad, but thats double the fps. Obviously that would mean to the ps4 users they might just see a ps5 user driving through an obstacle because for the ps5 user, it wasnt in the way yet, but for the ps4 user they were just going faster
@@riskyworks well that already happens lmao
I'm still taking a break by playing Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled's online multiplayer mode on PS4. Because my hands were tired.
But I can't wait to play my Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled the PS4 game in PlayStation 5 system as backward compatibility along with my other PS4 games like: Ratchet & Clank (2016) on PS4 game,... Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy on PS4 game,... Spyro Reignited Trilogy on PS4 game,... and Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time on PS4 game if I have a PlayStation 5 system very soon if they will be restocked in every stores eventually, until a brand new Ratchet & Clank game: "Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart" on PS5 game will be released in this year so I could get hands on both Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart on PS5 game and PlayStation 5 system in this year.
But I still can't wait!
I am really a huge fan of PlayStation. Because I'm a PlayStation guy. 🙂
i dont know why, but my ps4 disc of ctr nf dont even starts anymore on my ps5, but runs just fine and wonderful on my ps4 pro.
all my other physicall games ps4&ps5 disc´s are working perfect on my ps5, no problems there.
I hope Activision Publishing and Beenox address these issues in some way, shape, or form, because this cannot drag on any longer.
Agreed I believe if someone has the xbox series x and the xbox 1 alot more glitches happen credit to my friend liquidd1 for the theory
I was playing the Switch version during a free trial and was wondering why online play wasn't working. I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't even start a match....
On a somewhat related note... my son, whom is a hard-core gamer and die hard Mario Kart 8 Deluxe fan, said he keeps having problems with the drifting and getting CTR:NF to go into the drift. He said sometimes it works and sometimes it don't. I thought it was just me due to not being so good at it but I have similar problems trying to get it to drift. It's like the drift mechanics are janky and unreliable.
This sounds like the experience I had on my PS4. I have never had a smooth race online, and the problems I had range from being kicked from lobbies, to softlocking at the start of races, races failing to start in general, and the worst one is the game crashing when I get first place.
Sad to say still having these issues playing on series x
I know this is unrelated to the Ps4/Ps5 versions but I've seen the glitches in which more than 8 people join a lobby and the one in which you have several tracks to vote in the Switch version several times. The Switch version also has a crazy issue in which sometimes you just can't see a friend as joinable... unless he changes his switch nickname profile do have an A or a B at the beggining of his nickname.
what about just removing the skip intro option entirely? I stopped playing cuz I always acedently pressed that option
That's what I'm saying. Sucks to skip the intro just to be forced to wait for the other players without music. Especially when there's been sometimes where I've waited longer than the intro because someone had a bad internet connection.
i dont think i've ever ran into softlocks like this, but more often than not i'll be waiting in a lobby and 5 seconds before the actual race starts everyone dc's. this usually happens several times in a row before i finally get anywhere, and even then i still get a few dc's during the race.
I had recently started playing the game on the series X system, transferred my data from the One S over, I swear no game on my console literally crashes more than CTR: Nitro Fueled, it's not even online solo gameplay doing a regular typical Cup Race by myself crashes the game which is weird.
Like I'll be in the middle of a race speeding around prime example, Electron Avenue, I'm able to get through two laps and then all the sudden my game will freeze with this loud noise, then it'll kick me from the game then put me back on the Xbox hub screen.
Never had that issue on the One S.
They should really disable skipping the intro for online. The reason I don't skip the intro is so that I don't get stuck at the starting line waiting for everyone else viewing theirs. And now it's gamebreaking on PS5 to skip the intro online? The best lesson from this is: Never skip the intro while playing Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled online. Not only can you not trust the other players to skip the intro when you do, making you keep waiting as long as the intro anyway in a more boring state, skipping it from a PS5 screws everyone else over.
If you skip the opening cutscene for a race, you won’t be able to open the pause menu in online mode. Let the cutscene play and it will allow you to open the pause menu and exit the race without having to close the application.
Is it a problem exclusif to the PS5 or does the Xbox Series have the same promblem? I ask because when CTR N-F was launched, there was already 3 version of the Xbox One, with all of them having a slightly different hardware. Heck, there is even a version of the original Xbox One that have a half-HDD/half-SSD hybrid. (The Xbox One Elite, which is the model I have.)
You should try running the game from an external HDD and see if this still happens.
sounds like theres some sort of data sent to the other players if you skip the intro and if you receive that data too fast it crashes.
Likely its an issue that like you said due to the speed of the PS4 vs PS5, it never came up but likely has always been there.
I’ve been playing CTR on PS5 and other than waiting on the grid for other players a not longer (maybe I load in faster than they do). Otherwise everything’s working as well as before. The races start fine (maybe the odd one doesn’t but that’s just like on PS4). I’m not getting disconnects, lag, teleporting. Basically it works just fine here. Also it loads faster
Now I’m a little afraid to go online on my PS4 version, in fear of racing with PS5 players
How do I get a refund if they don't fix this?
Well that explains a lot, a few days ago I went back to CTR (on Xbox one) and have the exact same issues but I never skip the intros online
Finally! Sonic!
Could it be that since its p2p, when a ps5 loads the game faster, its forcing the ps4 players to load earlier than intended or prepared. This overload or software shorting causing the crash.
Still sad about there being no PC version, ever. I'll never get over it!
I mean there would be a shit ton of hackers
@@user-zv3jk6fs8i What's the worst those could do? I'm sure Beenox can find a way to stop them. And if you see a cheater, can't you just kick that person from the lobby?
@@dave9020 true
switch players: damn... i kinda dont care
also, this might be why they didnt do a pc version. they might have run into serious problems with online between different strengths of pc so they just stopped trying?
Not stop trying, they didn't want making cross platform online of their games.
@@Aji63637 ....dont get what that means. Pc players would play with other pc players. It dosent count as cross platform if the pcs have different specs. What im saying is that varying strengths of pc would cause this same issue.
I don't really play CTR online anymore due to the lack of new content, so I was shocked when I 1st heard about this.
I wonder if turning off the intro cutscene would work the same as skipping it manually. At least if you turn the intro cutscene off you can pause and leave the game if it takes forever to load instead of exiting it and reloading the game.
CTR's online Pretty much Sucks for me, The thing is, every few races, It Kicks me out of the lobby and Says "Network Unavailable" and I can no longer race, I'd have to wait a certain amount of time, The thing is, it's only doing this to me on PS4, not switch, This also started happening to me During the Circus Grand prix in November.
I know the online issues are very serious at this point, but that skeleton crash would make a great legendary skin.
Haven't had time to sit down and play CTR lately. The last time I did (around December) I definitely had trouble playing. Then again, it was more of me trying to either find a lobby or stay in one. Doesn't help that I still don't have a PS5 yet. So I do hope Beenox and Activision comes back to this game and fixed it. It's too good of a game for me.
On another note, I love the thumbnail for the video. Wish we had that in the game during the Spooky GP.
I can't even play the game, it crashes the moment i start it up. It only works if i'm offline. This has been going on since nearly the start of this console generation.
So basically the ps4 needs the load time of the level intro to be able to catch up ti the ps5 version which loads much faster and skipping the intro therefore kicks out the ps4 players who aren’t loaded in yet.
Same thing I can't play anymore my sister like it we can only play arcade and adventure mode but not anymore online in the PS5 maybe Activision need to make the online for PS5 too i hope they do something
Thank god I don’t do online I was doing cup races and adventure mode
Let me tell ya, the hard drive is not the reason why it loads quicker plus it doesn't have a Hard Drive at all. Its actually a SSD Solid State Drive and it literally can access the files faster. Than a hard drive disk.
What I can tell ya, its the RAM Chip and GPU that are way upgraded that can make the best performance
2:33 you can pause the game when you skip the intro using the settings
None of those problems are new. They werent as frequent as they are now, but people always complained about them. So, no, it's not a PS5 problem. I'm playing on my PS4 and most of my races are like you showed. Oh and Oxide Station is absolutely broken now. If you fail the third ramp because you bumped into something before the jump, it makes you spawn before the jump, but your position is at the beginning of the lap (likely in last place)
You know what you should've tried? A PS4 player being the host of the lobby
You, the PS5 player and host of the session, are probably kicking the PS4 players because you didn't receive any data from them after the intro ended, so the game would assume they lost connection and promptly kicks them, but what if a ps4 player is the host? Would PS5 players be the ones disconnected instead or would it actually work like normal?
I dont think they will bother patching Nitro Fueled.. they will surely be releasing a brand new CTR on PS5 in the next year or 2.
Its working fine on my ps5.. i just play the intro and don't skip it..
I’m sad.
I never bought CTR Nitro Fuelled at launch, but was considering buying it now (I have PS4) - but now I think I should save my money if online is so broken!
I play on the xbox one and experience the same online issues from lobby's disconnecting, races not starting and even the racers place not showing accurate.
Missed opportunity to call the new channel Canadian Guy Plehs 🙃
Activision and Beenox has to patch this game out even if they stopped supporting this game.
I am still waiting for the online issues to be fixed, I am one of the players that left due to this. However, if Activision and Beenox speak up and do something to make online here work much more better again, I might return to CTRNF and have fun. Until then, I am playing different games and TSR online.
When playing this game online. It’s so annoying when coming up against sweats. They finish the race while you just got on the 2nd lap coz they know all the tricks in levels. It’s also so bad how the game ends 30 seconds after the winner goes to the finish line. As a result. Players don’t earn newly as much coin cos they DNF. Having recently played mario kart 8. It’s much better coz the race ends affect the second last person goes to the finish line.
What about the 'Nitros Oxide Edition'??
And is it only on PlayStation or also the same on other consoles/pc?
I nowadays just skip online on PS4 Pro. I still fully enjoy it as if this feature did not exist.
It's still better than nintendo online
Edit: I stand corrected
no because it laggs on games without server but not softlocks them you can leave at any time and games like splatoon that run at 60 ticks per second are good and perfectly playable when no hacker/homebrewer is in the lobby and the problem isnt the game itself but the internet of other user trld: no nintendo switch online is still better
I think they fixed the problem. You no longer have the option to automatic skip online.
One thing I learned about the PS5 back compat since day one is, you just don't do it. It doesn't work all that well and clearly Sony clearly threw something together just to please the people. Just play PS4 games on PS4 and you'll be golden. It's that simple.
I feel kind of down that they decided to no longer support the game, since we could have had a decent rival to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and a lot of consoles don't have much in the way of kart racing titles. If they could come up with more online modes and such, it could have easily countered one of MK8D's key selling features.
Did you ever actually try without the intro cut scene to see if it would make a difference?
I know this is a discussion on how bad CTR NF's online is, but I'm looking at the thumbnail wondering "what if that was a skin for Crash?"
❤️I Loves Crash Team Racing Game
Still seems to be a thing in 2023. Just bought the game and been having all the problems you listed in the video on my ps5, I switched over to my PS4 and have been having far less issues.
I think that if you play the game on the PS5 running on the External HD and not the SSD it might solve the problem.
Beenox were not believing in CTR continuing to be successful in 2020 already, no wonder they were not even thinking about the new gen back then.
second channel should be called Canadian Guy *Pl-eh-s*
I played on the Xbox series s It had the same problem with online CTR
Why fix issues with the game or add things that people had been begging for for months(like RIPTO or WILLIE) when you can just make another bundle for the pit stop, for items most people already have?
I'm wondering if the fix would involve removing the ability to skip the intros. What else can you do in such a short amount of time?
Perhaps they should put a cap on load times so that all players could play together. Although this would be less then ideal for ps5 users, it would make the game more stable for crossplay. (Besides I personally believe that the load times for ctr on the ps4 isn't that bad anyways).
Edit: If that really is the issue.
I would like to see crash tag team racing remaster for ps4
I was also stuck in an online lobby
OK first off....YOU CANT JUST HIT ME WITH THE GOOFY SCREAM UNEXPECTED!! although i did laugh maybe a solid 5 minutes. lol
I was playing on Switch during the trial period they were offering and it amazingly ran well
That's because this only affects the Playstation and Xbox versions with next gen consoles being Backwards Compatible. Because this game has no cross play, Nintendo Switch owners won't have to worry about these issues. However, the Switch version has issues of its own...
I was trying to play online on PS4 a little while ago, waited for nearly an hour, every single game I had either wouldn’t start, or I was disconnected almost immediately.
What is that scream called at 4.40 marker
Safe to dream, but most likely Beenox stopped CTR support because of budget issues and/or switching development to Crash 4. With "maybe" a DLC for Crash 4 coming and the rumoured "Crash PVP", there's little chance we'll be seeing Beenox at CTR support again.
I think if we get a party game next that will be better for Activision. They will likely be able to put the game on all platforms and also have a better online system for it.
Due to the poor online system of CTR, the difficulty of putting it on other platforms and also the massive content already in CTRNF I don’t see Activision doing another racing game anytime soon.
They could go back in future to update CTR but that’s about it.
A little social experiment: thumbs up if you, like myself disable the intros (via options if you don't know how you can do that).
So you lied and mislead on the title AND the video. It's not next gen that's is broken, just the PS5.
If the Series X works just fine then go play on there then, I highly doubt it works but baby wants attention.
4:41 Nice use of the Goofy scream.
This game deserves better.
Yes finally! The return of discussion based videos! Hooray!