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It’s seems I couldn’t sleep and checked out your channel for a reason - I’d completely missed you Epochs on one of my favourite subjects! Became completely obsessed in my late 20s too, after reading Carlos the Bewitched by John Nada. More Hapsburgs please Beau! ❤
I think Carl also misses the intensity and brutality of the Yugoslavian war… tribesmen?! He’s not seen the towns still peppered with machine gunfire holes. I lived opposite an actual minefield.
The Spanish grandees were the players that really put this war into motion. The Treaty of London called for the partition of the Spanish overseas empire -- this is what London and Versailles were wanted -- but the Spanish court was not going to accept it. Whether Louis XIV or Leopold sent a prince to Madrid was less important than the status of the overseas Spanish Empire. Both London and Versailles loved the idea of a partitioned Spanish Empire, which would allow expanded access in markets that were previously closed to them. The Spanish grandees sent an ultimatum to Louis XIV to send a grandson to Spain, and, in return, Spain would give France exclusive access to Spanish Empire markets. If Louis refused, then the offer would be made to Leopold instead. Louis did not want the Spanish throne, but the Spanish markets were appealing; also, it was within his power to prevent Leopold from gaining those markets. This is what Louis agreed to -- not to merge France and Spain into one super country. Leopold's counter plan was to build an alliance and invade Spain to oust Philippe of Anjou in favor of Leopold's second son, Charles. To this end, Leopold offered London the same proposal that the Spanish grandees had offered Louis. The idea of Louis, cast as the bogeyman, uniting France and Spain into one country was just a useful fiction to placate the public, rather than trying to explain that England was going to war just to force open the Spanish markets.
France was the greatest threat to the European monarchies at the time for the exact same reason that the Hapsburgs were a threat a century and a half earlier. Monopoly on power. Europe had been purposefully deconstructed and separated into states to prevent another 30 years war, but now France had the size, the power, the army the economy, the sheer cultural and political clout and king with the absolute power, vision and lifespan to make itself felt across the world. Any state nearby would not have been able to withstand the French invasions, especially the deliberately balkanised border between the larger German states and France. However, like in risk or monopoly or any other multiplayer game, all the other powers looked at this, and decided that this would not stand. This also saw the reappearance of the British soldiers and forces in a major way to the European continent, as we’d been in a bit of a lurch throughout the 1600s deciding whether or not to have a king, and making sure the king doesn’t get any French or Spanish ideas about absolutism or Catholicism. We then spent the next century trying to contain France on the world stage 😂
There's a great line, can't remember the book, but it is something like "All wars since then have been fought to justify that first Atlantean invasion." As in, every war is just a continuation and picking up of the pieces of the last one all the way back to the very first mythological war.
Looking at it at bit from a localized Spanish perspective be it peasant or noble I can see why many would approve of Philip of Anju to become king. First of all with a king belonging to a distant cadet branch of the bourbons it decreases the chance Spain and France will go to war again Second for the 200 years of their rule the Hapsburgs used Spanish blood and treasure to protect their other holdings like Naples Milan or the Netherlands I’ve heard it said the Spanish saw their Hapsburg monarchs as wayward never truly one of them. So this could be the chance for a fresh start to have a new monarch from a powerful less inbred family not directly tied to any other far way domain ,as kings of Spain their attention would be only on Spain not spend their blood and treasure on propping up other kingdoms or Duchies that belong to them . This prospect is even more enticing when Philip renounces any claim to the throne the throne of France and allows the house of Bourbon Anju to become a fully Spanish royal family
The Royal Navy doesn't have a full air wing for either of the nation’s two aircraft carriers. Maybe its 4d chess because Chinese PLA Navy has copied the Aircraft carrier with no airwing model or maybe its Stupid ego bullshit. The carrier is not a meaningful part of defense strategy outside of an unwillingness to let go of such a "prestige" item, even if it's been sank by several different drydocks. It may still do deployments and missions but it's real mission is the ability to ensure on the Navy's wiki page it has "Carriers: 1" in the infobox. In this dynamic the carrier is mostly irrelevant, or because of how unreliable/non-functional it is, you don't plan around having it, you plan around what happens if it actually shows up,
Na... Still doing it.. Up to number 145... This weeks one is part 3 of an Edward III series.... I'll post another older preview on here later today too... #118 is about Robert Walpole. 🙂
24:30 was a repulsive remark. Is Carl going to make fun of the Elephant Man next? I mean really. Charles II had no control over the tragic circumstances into which he was born. Cripes, I feel sorry for the soul. Nothing wrong in pointing out the irony, but the callous way Carl did so was bad form.
I find it funny Loius and the French are cristized for being anti protestant yet the British are never so for all of their anti Catholic laws. "Hey it's okay when i do it but judge others for their intolerance."
well,one would think that some"braintrust"would've come up w/anti inbreeding policy,before it got as it was. y'all didn't git far,informatively,were they not in an economically exhausted,tho"land wealthy" condition?? imagine an editorial cartoon w/Spain a freshly cooked turkey,other powerful countries &related regions,all holding carving knives,each in both hands..
It’s seems I couldn’t sleep and checked out your channel for a reason - I’d completely missed you Epochs on one of my favourite subjects! Became completely obsessed in my late 20s too, after reading Carlos the Bewitched by John Nada. More Hapsburgs please Beau! ❤
I think Carl also misses the intensity and brutality of the Yugoslavian war… tribesmen?! He’s not seen the towns still peppered with machine gunfire holes. I lived opposite an actual minefield.
The Spanish grandees were the players that really put this war into motion. The Treaty of London called for the partition of the Spanish overseas empire -- this is what London and Versailles were wanted -- but the Spanish court was not going to accept it. Whether Louis XIV or Leopold sent a prince to Madrid was less important than the status of the overseas Spanish Empire. Both London and Versailles loved the idea of a partitioned Spanish Empire, which would allow expanded access in markets that were previously closed to them. The Spanish grandees sent an ultimatum to Louis XIV to send a grandson to Spain, and, in return, Spain would give France exclusive access to Spanish Empire markets. If Louis refused, then the offer would be made to Leopold instead. Louis did not want the Spanish throne, but the Spanish markets were appealing; also, it was within his power to prevent Leopold from gaining those markets. This is what Louis agreed to -- not to merge France and Spain into one super country. Leopold's counter plan was to build an alliance and invade Spain to oust Philippe of Anjou in favor of Leopold's second son, Charles. To this end, Leopold offered London the same proposal that the Spanish grandees had offered Louis. The idea of Louis, cast as the bogeyman, uniting France and Spain into one country was just a useful fiction to placate the public, rather than trying to explain that England was going to war just to force open the Spanish markets.
France was the greatest threat to the European monarchies at the time for the exact same reason that the Hapsburgs were a threat a century and a half earlier. Monopoly on power. Europe had been purposefully deconstructed and separated into states to prevent another 30 years war, but now France had the size, the power, the army the economy, the sheer cultural and political clout and king with the absolute power, vision and lifespan to make itself felt across the world.
Any state nearby would not have been able to withstand the French invasions, especially the deliberately balkanised border between the larger German states and France. However, like in risk or monopoly or any other multiplayer game, all the other powers looked at this, and decided that this would not stand.
This also saw the reappearance of the British soldiers and forces in a major way to the European continent, as we’d been in a bit of a lurch throughout the 1600s deciding whether or not to have a king, and making sure the king doesn’t get any French or Spanish ideas about absolutism or Catholicism.
We then spent the next century trying to contain France on the world stage 😂
There's a great line, can't remember the book, but it is something like "All wars since then have been fought to justify that first Atlantean invasion."
As in, every war is just a continuation and picking up of the pieces of the last one all the way back to the very first mythological war.
very cool just subsribed....👍
it was during that war the Portuguese army reached Madrid.
Looking at it at bit from a localized Spanish perspective be it peasant or noble I can see why many would approve of Philip of Anju to become king.
First of all with a king belonging to a distant cadet branch of the bourbons it decreases the chance Spain and France will go to war again
Second for the 200 years of their rule the Hapsburgs used Spanish blood and treasure to protect their other holdings like Naples Milan or the Netherlands I’ve heard it said the Spanish saw their Hapsburg monarchs as wayward never truly one of them.
So this could be the chance for a fresh start to have a new monarch from a powerful less inbred family not directly tied to any other far way domain ,as kings of Spain their attention would be only on Spain not spend their blood and treasure on propping up other kingdoms or Duchies that belong to them .
This prospect is even more enticing when Philip renounces any claim to the throne the throne of France and allows the house of Bourbon Anju to become a fully Spanish royal family
thought thumbnail headline was present day...
Q,old&crabby
The Royal Navy doesn't have a full air wing for either of the nation’s two aircraft carriers. Maybe its 4d chess because Chinese PLA Navy has copied the Aircraft carrier with no airwing model or maybe its Stupid ego bullshit. The carrier is not a meaningful part of defense strategy outside of an unwillingness to let go of such a "prestige" item, even if it's been sank by several different drydocks. It may still do deployments and missions but it's real mission is the ability to ensure on the Navy's wiki page it has "Carriers: 1" in the infobox. In this dynamic the carrier is mostly irrelevant, or because of how unreliable/non-functional it is, you don't plan around having it, you plan around what happens if it actually shows up,
I’m out of the loop, has epochs ended?
Na... Still doing it.. Up to number 145... This weeks one is part 3 of an Edward III series....
I'll post another older preview on here later today too... #118 is about Robert Walpole.
🙂
24:30 was a repulsive remark. Is Carl going to make fun of the Elephant Man next? I mean really. Charles II had no control over the tragic circumstances into which he was born. Cripes, I feel sorry for the soul. Nothing wrong in pointing out the irony, but the callous way Carl did so was bad form.
I find it funny Loius and the French are cristized for being anti protestant yet the British are never so for all of their anti Catholic laws. "Hey it's okay when i do it but judge others for their intolerance."
well,one would think that some"braintrust"would've
come up w/anti inbreeding policy,before it got as it
was. y'all didn't git far,informatively,were they not in
an economically exhausted,tho"land wealthy"
condition?? imagine an editorial cartoon w/Spain
a freshly cooked turkey,other powerful countries
&related regions,all holding carving knives,each
in both hands..
When all your wealth and power is within your bloodline, it hardly matters what your pugs of the children look like