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Are you taking corvette orders
Ford is famous for jacking up prices on Raptors.
I have not bought a car in like 18 years but my sister loves to buy cars and dodge is one of their favorites. Her husband claimed to got a good deal on a "rare" dodge sports car but me and my dad know he just got ripped off and the car salesman did his game.
#chevydude how about the scam at the largest dealer of almost every make near my mom's, they put pinstripes and door edge guards on every vehicle they sell and charge like $195 each for them... these items are added as soon as it arrives on the lot..
Hello Mr Dude
Knowing what you know, how do you act or respond to other salespersons when they are playing games you can see right through?
This dude is very trustworthy, he even flamed his own dealer brand 🤣🤣
Bruh🤣
That's how you know you can trust him
Dont be so nieve its a very calculated move hs is a car salesman don't forget, a fast talking wheeler-dealer I don't trust him
This how you know he a real one 💯💯💯
I love the Chevy dude
When a car dealer says that even their own company likes to play "games" that's when they're trustworthy enough for my sub, lol.
Another vote for walking away when the dealer is trying to wear you down by stretching the process out for hours.
Just find a decent place that sell vehicles with a two year loan, if you have challenged credit. It'll save you tons of money in the long run.
Who puts up with that? Many years ago a salesman took the keys to my car in order to have the trade in value evaluated. They held onto my keys for almost 30 minutes. Then I put a halt on everything until I had my keys in my hands. They balked and took their dear sweet time giving my keys back... shame on them! We walked out as soon as I had my keys. I bought a new vehicle later that day, but not from them!
@@kevinstorm6009 Proof that you should never surrender the one and only set of keys you have to the car Give them the spare
@@gwillis01 Really? They weren't the only set of keys I had for the vehicle! Where would you get such an idea?
They had the keys to my vehicle! Even if you had your spare keys with you, would you drive away and leave a set of your car keys at a dealership? For a car you owned? Let that thought sink in for a minute. The answer is, absolutely not! There's no way anyone would do that.
@@kevinstorm6009 Yes it is true that you should not let strangers have your car keys. However, I always want to preserve the ability to make a fast getaway.
I don't want to feel that I am being held hostage.
I just bought my first car and I watched hours of your videos and I went to my dealer ready to play hardball and they didn’t play any games! I came from out of town so I asked for the out the door before I came and there were no dealer add ons. I paid the MSRP for the package I made on subaru’s website and then $353 in doc and registration fees and tax!! I’m kind of sad I didn’t get to use my new negotiating skills but I’m glad I was prepared! Thank you for what you do!!
Why didn't you negotiate on the price?
When I decided what I wanted I built my own car on the sight to see what the manufacturer would charge and it was on the nose the same price. They had no dealer add ons beside the filing fee and even that was fair.
preparing for a worst-case scenario will usually lead to the best-case scenario.
Just bought a Hyundai Palisade (Calligraphy) for the wife. Local dealership didn't have and couldn't get the color we wanted. It seems that dealers don't like to order anything other than Black, White, Silver and Graphite. After an exhaustive search, we found one in the color we wanted (Dark Blue exterior with white leather interior). It was $1200 less than our local dealer was selling them for, AND they gave us $1000 more for our trade than our local dealer offered. The dealership knew they had a good price on it and wouldn't negotiate. Regardless, even without negotiating, the $2200 swing was well worth the 3 hour drive to buy and take delivery of it.
Alot of dealers don't get to pick 100% of their inventory. The blues, reds, and other colors are more rare across all brands. Everyone just wants the boring black, white, greys
@@DF-je3lz grey is the perfect car color though
I bought a palisade and they tried the LOA. I said I'll came back next year when they're more available. They waved it lol
I loved the surprise at the end with Kia. Walked into a Kia dealership last week and the "scam sicker" already had an $1,800 increase above MSRP. I was still interested in the Seltos but when we got to the table they had non-negotiable extended warranties and fees totaling over $5k. When we pushed back it turned from driving the car and looking at the numbers to "what can we do to have you take the care home today". Even after that they didn't lower the price at all because people will pay that much above sticker.
If more people ban together and fight it they will lose. Education is the key.
The biggest issue I had with my local Chevy dealership was the bait and switch. In 2013 I was in the market for a new car and wanted a Cruze. I found one advertised on the dealer’s website at $22,000, and went in for a test drive. This car was a 2LT model with the two tone seats, pioneer stereo system, and a sunroof. They sent me on an overnight test drive, so when I came back in the morning I was sold and told them I’d take it. It was at this point that they pulled their bologna of telling me that they had accidentally advertised the wrong stock number for the price, and told me that I would have to take a 1LT model with the regular touchscreen stereo, the simple black seats, and no sunroof. In the end they got the raw end of the deal because I made them throw in virtually everything I could for the price they had already advertised for. I got the gap insurance($500), I got the extended warranty ($1500), I got all of the BS paint and interior protection mumbo-jumbo($500), I got remote start installed($400), window tint($150), and factory floor mats($200) and other things I don’t remember included in their original price. I made them give me free oil changes and tire rotations for the life of the warranty also. Told them I’d walk and blast their Yelp and Facebook pages with bad reviews if they didn’t play ball. They would have done better to give me the original car they’d sent me home with. Dickheads. Maxie Price Chevrolet in Stone Mountain Georgia, Corvette superstore.
Just think,if you hadn't gone into a store in hater land(yes, I'm talking about stone mtn Ga.).
🙄 hater land? Get over yourself.
Thank you for everything man because of your videos I went in to the dealership very knowledgeable and got a veryyyy good deal. I'm 19 with no credit and they tried to scam me but I didn't fall for it and i knocked off over $1000 of useless fees. First time buyer with no help from parents and no cosigner but you're videos helped me so much I wasn't even nervous when I went to sign... all that being said thank you!
As a current Tesla (Model S) and Chevrolet (C7 Z06) owner I can tell you the buying experience for the Tesla was 1000X less stressful, then the "song and dance" from Chevrolet.
Mom purchased a Kia Rio in 2006. Asked for best deal, best price, they wrote up the paperwork, and then she paid cash.
Great little machine. 150k miles, still runs fine. Best thing to know? DON'T buy new, wait 1-2 years, buy cash, have a few friends go and put 'feelers' in the dealership you are considering.
As someone who works at a Mitsubishi Dealership, those scams are done by many manufacturers. However, I am happy that the dealerships I have worked for, don't do any shady stuff like that.
100% right on Kia... at least from the dealership I dealt with last week. Was trying to get a decent deal on a K5 GT Line. They had tacked on $3,000 dealer profit to the price. Couldn't even get them to go down to MSRP. The more I sat there listening to them go on and on about the chip shortage and car shortage I thought there was no way I was going to even pay MSRP on a Kia (of all makes). Plus they contradicted themselves about four times in the 30 minutes I sat there with the sales manager. Frustrated I stopped at the Subaru dealer on the way home. Test drove a Legacy and ended up buying it. No games, treated me like a human being and I got it for 5% below MSRP. It was actually a pleasant experience and I know I got the better vehicle.
Went to a dodge dealership in my local city, they had me sit for 3 hours to run my finances, refused to show me the car until I paid for it, said it was in storage. Never showed me the window sticker or MSRP just wrote what he believed was the price on a 4x4 split sheet. Finally just had to leave. So glad I watched your videos before I went in, I honestly can't thank you enough, I thought experiences like this were far over with
Why did you spend 3 hours there after that kind of treatment anyway?
Dodge is brutal, i was there Monday and it was like they wanted to decide what truck to sell me not what truck do I want
I’ve been to four different Dodge dealers near me the last few weeks. All of them have been cool. No pressure.
@@SubzeroBears1 depends on what you call cool
@@SubzeroBears1 They really wanted my Silverado as a trade but kept trying to sell me a $70k truck and I wanted at most a big horn.
Shopped around online for a new Honda Odyssey, found a price/trim/color we liked, called the local dealer and told them exactly what we wanted and this is what we want to pay. They transferred one in from a dealer 300 miles away at no charge and the whole dealer experience was less than 2 hours including a test drive.
Chevy Dude, I love your videos! I have been looking at a crapload of different vehicles and I agree 100% with you assessment of KIA! They were the only dealer that took me for a drive instead of actually letting me drive the car. I’m in my late 50’s and have never experienced that before (even in my 20’s), oh, and they wanted $1995 above MSRP on all of their cars
Randy K tell em to shove that ricer up the old wazoo 😄😄😁😁😜😛😜😛😜
I almost bought a Equinox last month. It was a nice red, equipped like I wanted, and was at a good price. The salesman walked inside while I was getting my check book for the deposit. Going back by, I put a small "moon eyes" sticker on it. I always do that after I almost got in the wrong car once. Went inside and wrote a check for the deposit and filled out the finance papers. I went back to work and later they said my loan was approved and I could pick the car up the next morning. (Saturday, it was getting late on Friday). Signing the final papers, I noticed it said it was black. When I asked about the color, the salesman told me I had looked at a black car. I asked to look at the car. No moon eyes sticker. THAT car, with my sticker, was out by the street to draw traffic. The manager got rather stuffy with me insisting I had bought a black one. I showed a picture on my phone of the car I wanted to buy. I walked out. They didn't want to return my deposit. I put a "refer to originator" order on it. I now have a very nice little CX-5 and couldn't be happier.
Wow, that's terrible.
That is crazy!! Stupid to let a sale walk out the door.
As a Hyundai owner, I can confirm that they will scam you. They secretly threw in $3500 worth of gap insurance and extended warranties. I know it’s my fault for not reading the paper work but I was in a hurry, it’s still unacceptable though. They also didn’t stand behind the warranty when I had problems with my car. I don’t think I will be purchasing another Hyundai.
To be fair, when I was in the credit business, every dealer of every brand that we dealt with did this. Insurance products almost always have a huge profit margin. You can buy an extended warranty for $500 or less and sell it for $1500 or more.
My dad taught me when I was a kid to ALWAYS read paperwork before you sign it, I asked him why. He said he signed something once without reading it, and the United States Air Force got control of him for 4 years. So, don't ever be in such a hurry that you can let someone Screw you because you were in a hurry.
@@jumpercable20 My grandma has told me that before, she used to be a realtor. My dad told me to never believe anything I hear on the Internet and only listen to word of mouth. That’s another mistake I made with this car, I bought it because of the good things I read about it and ignored the fact that everyone I knew with a Hyundai had bad luck. And of course 60,000 miles latter this car has turned into a total piece of trash.
Oh one I had issues with last year is my local toyota dealership here in Pennsylvania. I wanted a Tacoma. They had 2019 models on the lot with 2020 models starting to come in too. They expected full msrp on the 19. They wanted 799 doc fee. They were trying to get me to accept a higher interest rate than I thought I should get with 800 credit score. Low balled my trade and made up a story about the automatic transmission grinding. Said they couldn't find me keys when I said I was done not buying today and it time to leave. I had to talk to the sales manager before the keys were magically found.
I stalled out on buying for a while and did eventually buy a Tacoma 8 month later at Bill Kidd's Toyota in Timonium MD. The deal was fair, no monkey business and I was very pleased with how professional they were. The difference in dealerships was night and day.
Here's a tip people...buy used (not from dealers, from the owners) & avoid these lousy brands.
As someone who works for a Hyundai dealer in the state of KY I can say that we do not mark up our vehicles over MSRP the reason being is because our owners have worked very hard to be the #1 Hyundai dealer in the state for 7 years and they do not think it's right to mark up vehicles over MSRP because it doesn't leave as good of an impression on the customer. I know you are speaking generally about dealerships and I love that you are making people aware!
Hyundai’s are terrible cars that literally fall apart in years and are riddled with recalls and issues. So congratulations that you don’t rip people off... kinda?
Btw I currently own and drive a Hyundai daily so I can vouch for how suck they are . Would not recommend purchasing one.
@@Thatpersonyoudontknow you know that's false. They last a very long time
They secretly charged me $3500 worth of gap insurance and extended warranties. The car has not been very reliable. It only has 65,000 miles and it burns a quart of oil every 1500 miles and they won’t do anything about it. They didn’t do anything about other things that went wrong with it. This is probably gonna be my last Hyundai.
@@Anonymous-ji4sb never had any problems with a kia
When I was looking at Hyundai Palisades in NC the nearest dealer was charging $4000 ADM (additional dealer markup). Went to the dealer at a small town 30 minutes west of here and they said they don't do ADM, but were honest and said I'd be at the back of a waiting list and would pay full MSRP. Wound up getting a Santa Fe instead.
5:31 "Make sure you pay a reasonable doc fee: $3-4-500"
A reasonable doc fee is $75.
That's exactly what I thought lol, you gotta be kidding $400
Its an expensive piece of paper, lol. No thanks!
I'm in many dealerships on a weekly basis, and Kia & Chrysler are the biggest takers of people with distressed credit. These stores are also notorious in the service department & to paying their vendors. And if you know where repos are locked up, notice the Kias & FCA vehicles.
You know, car buying is stressful enough without a vulture salesman trying to screw you over to get a new car. I absolutely HATE, HATE, HATE, rolling on a car lot and have a salesman ATTACK me before I get out of my car. In that case, I usually just keep rolling. After watching several of your videos, I think I will keep what I have now and skip the new car buying process.
The telluride is super nice but we noticed the insane names recently when looking. It’s crazy. I had a 2013 optima and loved it. And the k5s look really nice!
yeah I was really impressed how the k5 looks, was just at my dealer for service on my '12 Soul and even been tempted at the latest Souls
I wish they offered the K5 GT in awd, that 300hp engine is a lot of power for a fwd. I do like how they at least offer awd in that car though. Thats really going to improve sales. Hopefully next model year the gt will get awd as an option
Now, I cannot stop watching your videos. I learned so much!
Wow, thanks!
I have never been happy with buying a car until my last one in which I played hardball and the one my daughter bought last year thanks to Chevy dude advice.
You are so right about Kia. Found the Stinger I wanted online. Filled out the information. When they called me on the phone they refused to sell me the car. Something about the price online was only for people who live locally. Their loss.
Lmao that is funny. The Kia Stinger looks great though.
Hands down the best experience I’ve ever had when buying a car was with Tesla. Three main reasons: didn’t have to deal with a salesperson, the price listed is the price paid, and the car is a beast
I just want to hear him try and pronounce “Mee-shuh-bee-tshee” (Mitsubishi) one more time lol
For real
Hey man just had to give you a thanks. Been watching your videos and researching your tips.
Found a solid, reputable dealer, and just signed off on a lease for a new Silverado on my terms! Did the research beforehand, shut my mouth until I needed to, dealer seemed to understand I knew what was up and the whole thing was pretty painless.
Thanks again!!!
Serious question…why does anyone lease? Is it because you want to get a new truck every 3 years? I don’t understand why anyone would want a truck payment forever. Why not buy and have zero payment after a few years?
We bought a 2017 cadenza 2nd hand and honestly its amazing! i wouldnt pay retail. we paid 17k for it. the car has been very reliable and they honor their warranty quite well.
i test drove one and loved it, didnt buy it tho
Your channel and couple of others were very helpful in my recent purchase. I like your style of presentation.
Tesla might change conditions and pricing within a week but at the dealership finance office they change numbers if you blink. That's why carvana vroom is big.
I still dont know if I could trust buying a car from them. Ive seen some decent cars listed by them but, I don't think you can negotiate the prices right?
LOVE the Mitsubishi roast 😂😂💙
The funny part is most of GM cars are built by Mitsubishi made machines and robotics as their parent company is huge. Maybe that's why they still find away to make vehicles without requiring taxpayer bailouts due to poor business practices and poor products.
I go on Sundays On Purpose when I want to see vehicles at Stealerships ..Amazingly enough many Vehicles are left open on the used & new Lots
You’re right! I do the same
@@TheIncredibleHoosier 👍
Kia & Hyundai owned by the same Company! The Telluride and Palisade are the same vehicle.
Similar but not the same, made in different countries and different options. Palisade is more bells and whistles, Kia is more Utilitarian.
My best friend had an Elantra at the same time I had an optima and they were the exact same on many things like the key thing, dash, controls, even the horn lol
They're no different than Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infinity, etc.
@@KasualKaos typically the counter part is the more "luxurious" brand. Like acura, Lexus, Audi etc.
I had an amazing experience at a Hyundai dealership when buying my 2021 Veloster N. They automatically gave me the online price ($800 below MSRP), they gave me exactly what I thought my trade was worth, and only charged me a $250 doc fee. Also, they weren’t pushy when it came to extras (gap insurance, extended warranty’s, etc.). I think I was in and out in around 2 hours, super smooth process.
A reasonable doc fee is $75.
@@aliendroneservices6621 It depends and set by the state, not the car dealer. That $75 fee for all is a myth.
@@JohnLee-db9zt it depends on what state you're in, not every state sets the doc fee. Some just let the dealer set the fee. And anything over $100 is crazy. They're just submitting paperwork.
@@aliendroneservices6621 please show me a dealership with that fee, we sell 400 cars a month and whether it's a $1000 car or a 70k car doc fee Is $688 .it's higher than most but look up the average doc fee in the country , $75 at an actual big dealership is not going to happen . Also side note, every new car in the country is marked up and over msrp folks , its the biggest all time sellers market of all Time and there is no inventory , if you want to haggle , keep your car until the shortage is over which is estimated to be 2023.used cars cost more than brand new even after markup and Chevy has enough chips to get them thru October and then are stopping production until at least March...and they're not the only brand , I work for toyota and it's the same story .so car.prices will only go higher. Telluride over msrp 4 months when this came out ?please try and buy one at sticker now .why would they do that when people are fighting over them ?it's supply and demand and it applies to every product you buy big and small .get mad at market adjustments on gas or milk ...it doesn't change anything. We sold a used bronco today for $25,000 over msrp ....and it was under market value and the customer couldn't believe they got it at a good price and didn't have to fly for it .and tbh, the front was $1100 on it showing how much we had to spend just to be able to sell it . I get excited..like very excited when I sell a car and see the front end profit at $3000 and I get a quarter of it . I also feel people think we make $5k+ on the front end of cars .maybe some folks do but every used car we have on the lot (over 500 of them ) have been losers for the past 2 months .we make it up by securing finance and getting the bonus from big toyota. It's tough out there right now .I spent two months searching for my wife and mines vehicles and jumped on them when we found them .theres not even employee discounts right now
@@mutinyrider666 glad you admit to scamming people almost $700. At least you aren't hiding it.
My next vehicle purchase will be done online, so I can bypass all the salesman BS. I spend 15 years at a Chevrolet Dealer and I hate it when you go to a car dealership and the sales people attack you like they are starving and you are fresh meat.
Based on the past few years of buying the 5 Kia's in my family at 2 different dealerships, we had zero issues and were there an average of 2 hours ( doing the test drive, financing and paperwork ). I have never had these experiences at any car dealer you mention.
But how long was your loan? Paying for 5 years is practically buying 1 car for the price of 2.
I got a CPO Kia. Great deal. Zero pressure. No games. (Then the dealer went out of business a month later lol).
I don’t even deal with dealerships anymore
I have owned 23 different vehicles in my life. None of them were manufactured after 1972. Presently own/drive a 66 Chevelle, and a 61 Dodge 3/4 ton 4x4. No interest in newer stuff, and I spin my own wrenches.
I purchased a Kia Telluride SX June 2019 had it on order for 3 months. They ended up giving me $1000 less for my trade. I knew they were going to do something under handed.. Finance manager very aggressive selling add-ons! Yes tried to wear me down. Very stressful. Paid sticker price. Love the vehicle.But since then I found you, Chevy Dude and will be more prepared. I may even wear one of your Awesome T-shirts the next time I buy a new car so they know they can’t pull anything over on me!
You’ve been had
By used, and skip the all the dealerships. The bigger the buildings, the more overhead and bigger the mark up has to be.
I know of a Honda store that want charge for air in tires! Yes $399.00 environmental fee, nitrogen in tires!
Went to look at a Kia Telluride and dealer wanted at least $5,000 over MSRP because of yes the lack of inventory because they are so, so popular and we’re being pre-ordered months in advance. Even if I ordered from the manufacturer and wasn’t buying from the small stock the dealer had on hand they said I would still have to pay the $5,000 on top of the non discounted price of the SUV. I walked and bought another brand SUV.
Truly, you lost me at the mention of a 'documentation fee' of hundreds of dollars! You can't sell a vehicle without documenting it! If you're at a dealer who charges more than $75 for document processing, then move on! Yes, there will be fees required by your state, such as tax, state Inspection, title fees, etc., but nothing more.
There was a Chrysler Mitsubishi dealer in my area. Mitsubishi told the dealer their cars had to have a separate showroom building. The dealer quit selling Mitsubishis. Then Chrysler cancelled their dealership.
I wouldn't purchase a Tesla or Kia if my life depended on it
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Chevy is one of them! They have litterally the worst quality materials in their interiors
As usual I appreciate the info. However, I have watched other videos related to car buying that recommended not paying over $75 for doc fees. Were you referring to the same doc fees? Thanks.
From what i habe been able to tell regarding doc fees, thete are three states that only charge 75 dollar doc fees. So the people saying to not pay more are using that as their reference.
@@judybee6698 @Kelly Wahl, my doc fee on my Hyundai Veloster I purchased in 2018 was $150. I'm in Texas. Fortunately, there were no other fees that they charged me that CD talked about. There seems to be a range according to comments I've read which I would love to hear Chevy Dude talk about that. #ChevyDude I was charged $25.64 for Dealer's inventory tax (if not included in Cash Price). I do wonder why I'm paying for their inventory tax.
I have owed two Mitsubishi CUVs. One was a bad scam outfit. The other was straight forward and made a clean deal on a good vehicle, which I still own.
I was rear ended twice in two years and installed a blinking third brake light electronics and it has saved me at least three times so far. The electronics cost me 9 bucks = cheap insurance.
I went down to the local Chevy dealer to look at used trucks. I was told that they needed to run my credit before telling me the asking price of the vehicle I was looking at. I promptly left and have not set foot on their lot since.
My local Honda dealer wanted to do that same thing. I walked out.
Lol Chrysler Capital was a joke. Said 800/month at 11%. Went to a different Jeep dealer, got financing through a credit union, $400/month at 4% interest.
Tesla cars are more expensive than most luxury cars when you have to repair bodywork and you must always wait weeks
Honda dealers do it with the Civic Type R as well. MSRP starts at $38-44k, but the dealer markup will send the sticker price into Corvette or even non-911 Porsche territory.
Yep.Just like with the Volkswagen Corrado years ago. Its ridiculous how the dealers are allowed to add thousands of dollars to a car people are led to believe will cost a certain amount then they get real sticker shock.
@@eac1235 Shame on anyone who pays above MSRP for any vehicle! Such fools have no one to blame but themselves! I've never 'needed' to have a specific vehicle. That said, it's helpful that I don't live in the middle of nowhere too. For every make of vehicle, we have several dealerships that carry them within 50 miles or less.
Not sure you're on target on Tesla test drives. I just did. No problem, no hassles.
Same here they just give me the keys and off I go
My uncle got a telluride and had zero issues with the dealership. It’s all about what you let them get away with.
hello and thankyou. Mr Kevin Hunter does an educational service, of car dealerships. VERY EDUCATIONAL and usefull.
I owned a Mitsubishi once, It was a great TV for its time. Never knew they made cars. I guess their TV's are better.
Yep! I owned a Mitsubishi 63" TV that finally died after 16 years, but they apparently shouldn't have built vehicles!!!
This is so true about California. Every new chevy truck/suv is marked up 20-40% right now
RE Tesla: 1. If you purchase a vehicle at a price, even if the price goes up, you pay the same amount. 2. If you buy a used car from a non Tesla dealer that has FSD, you keep it.
The CDJR dealer in the southwest of Louisville tried to slide in a lot of fees on us. We walked after seeing they tried to charge us $300 for tinted windows on a used Jeep. We went and bought a Hyundai....good experience so far.
Local Mitsu dealer is doing "cash for clunkers" still. 4k off guaranteed. There's 5k worth of dealer add-ons on each car though.
Exactly.
Are you in San Antonio? LOL, I was told there's a $3500 charge for paint sealant and fabric protector and that fee CANNOT be removed.
@@tT-hw8yuThats bullshit.I wouldn't shop there
@@tT-hw8yu yup! Why I didn't buy an outlander!
@@DrewDanube I was looking at the 2022 model and ended up walking out
Looked at buying a Telluride, the moment I walked through the door, they basically told me that all prices are final no negotiations, prices are only 10% above MSRP and we are lucky to even get that price , and unless you are ready to buy today, we are not interested in speaking with you. ..
Mike is making friends again👍
Some of the dealer markups over MSRP on the C8 are insane. Luckily, there are dealers respecting MSRP. Just have to travel to get the car...or ship it.
Check your state DMV for the max allowable doc fee that a dealership is allowed to charge you. In CA the legal amount is $85
I walked of the Kia lot. They treated me like I had no credit. Shot me a monthly payment of $442. This was about 15 years ago . Told the salesman it’s a Kia not Mercedes. So he said how about $332 a month. Never gave me a price. Said let me talk to my manager. I said ya have 10 minutes. So in 10 I got up and walked towards to door. He never went to ask anyone anything. Was B.S.ing in the corner. So haven’t and will never be back on a Kia lot
Yea went to my local Kia and they tried to throw everything at me and after two days of being at a dealership we walked out
yeah i went to a gmc dealer and also got that treatment saying our credit wasn't probably good enough ( mine 787 and my wifes 812) and to pay this certain amount i just laughed at them
@@1234cnl same here mine was 805 and my wife hers was around 790. Went and bought a new Jeep a couple of days later.
Our Hyundai dealer is actually one of the most trustworthy in the area. The owner has a policy for his dealerships that they won’t sell over MSRP, and are one of the few not doing it in the area.
"Telluride" what a lackluster name. Should've just called it "idrivecaryes"
All dealerships take several hours to complete the car deal regardless where you go.
It's why I just bought a Z06 on Carvana
If you are good and firm, you can get out sooner. Watch Mike's videos and some of the others here on CZcams from others. I disagree with Mike's $300-4400 for doc fees. You can hold lower. Of course, right now is a tough time to buy with horrible inventory due to the chip shortage and expensive pre-owned market.`
yup. wearing you down for a couple hours gets your ready to meet the finance manager. It's a strategy not a necessity to take that long. They all do it, other than Carvana or Carmax of course.
This can be common on the west coast. I worked for a Chevrolet dealer in Iowa and our finance manager used to complete deals in California. Their manager purposefully made the finance department sit on the completed paperwork for almost an hour before bringing the customer in. By that point, the customer would be so sick of being in the dealership they would answer yes to everything just to leave with their car, adding several dealer fees in the process. It pays to keep your patience, ask questions and read through the details before agreeing to ANYTHING.
So I just paid over msrp for a 2021 Chevy Tahoe. I was told other Chevy dealers are charging $5k over msrp for the new Tahoe’s due to the extreme lack of inventory. I paid $3K over and called around the next day. No one is charging over msrp and the car is becoming more available. I was lied to and it sucks.
The biggest scam I've seen was Bait and switch on a New G.M.C from Coyle Chevrolet in Clarksville, Indiana they showed on there website a great deal so I printed it out and went right down there to purchase the New Truck only the Manager wasn't going to sale me the Truck for that price I said well you have it posted for that price online he said he would be removing it from the website he acted as if he was very angry at me loud tone voice beat red in the face and he did just that I checked when I got home and it was no longer on there website so I will cross the Bridge to Kentucky before buying anything from that Dealership my son got to see how they were as well so he wont be a future customer either.
Always like watching you. I bought a KIA in 2020, just before the car shortage began. I am an ex car salesmen for the 90s. I got my car at $1200 below MSRP and only paid for reasonable fees as you suggested. Got 1% and paid it off in half the time...You use to be able to talk them down , but no more thanks to Covid. sad.. Thanks and keep up the good work..
Hey, love ur vids and the quality of them, I'm from Louisville as well and love seeing ur corvette around sometimes. I have personally bought 3 teslas and I agree with u abt the cost of bringing a car from another showroom, which is a cost that I faced. BUT the statement u made about tesla lowering the price of the model S was infact a temporary change to clear inventory before the refresh. And when u say that they change often, it's typically because of the fact that they don't do model years, so they update much more frequently which is something that I personally like. I feel like the model year system is outdated. No hate just my opinion and I love ur vids keep up the good work
do you live in the westend of Louisville
@@stinkysocks8094 I live near the paddock shops if you know where that is.
@@arnavkoparkar231 ah so you live in the incest part of town
@@stinkysocks8094 Lmao what? It's a pretty nice part of town most houses go for over 1M
@@arnavkoparkar231 That good I just heard ghost stories about that part of town so it must be haunted
I always hear, "I signed it without reading it". If you read it, would you understand it? It is deliberately written to confuse. Establish the rules of engagement when you first go in. Exam[le #1, I will be here 90 minutes I will be leaving with or without a new car.
My sister in law and her daughter spent 4 hours on a Saturday at a Honda Dealership. At least they each leased a car.
The daughter's son leased a new Nissan. They called him 5 days later and said the lease wasn't approved. He went back and signed a new lease at $65 more a month. He called and asked my wife if this was legal. He didn't want to talk to me. The spot delivery is alive and well.
2 years ago he tried to buy a used KIA. 5 days later they called and said financing wouldn't go through without $3000 more. He didn't have it or the $1 a mile they wanted for his use of the car. He saw it, he signed it, but he didn't read it or understand it.
300 plus comments illustrate my points. That mountain of paperwork has been developed over decades to befuddle and confuse.
Most of the car companies mentioned in this video produce cheap junk cars that fall apart. They should be giving away their cars not ripping people off. But like the old saying goes, “ there’s a sucker born every minute”.
I agree. Buy Japanese!
I bought my 2019 Hellcat new and did everything via text messages and phone calls. The text messages gave me the info that they could not dispute had there been an issue. I showed up to the dealership, car was already prepped as was the paperwork. They tried to sell me all the extra warranty crap and I said nope,,, and watched the lady waltz back to her office. I was in and out in 1 1/2 hours and got a great deal for a loaded Hellcat.
Picking up my Tesla next week. Price locked in since original order date, easy communication. Asked to have it delivered to another showroom (no extra charge). The FSD I don’t know about, because I’m not getting it. Main complaint is the absence of service centers. But that is an issue w/ dealer protectionism in the form of state laws.
With Kia I think 🤔 it's depends on the dealership and the model. I just got a Stinger below MSRP and they dropped the extra charges. In and out with 2 test drives 3 and a half hours.
05:57 Yep yep & yep. We were ready to pull the trigger on the Telluride & the sales rep said there was a 5K "availability fee" {a LATE Sch'dy NY dealer} over sticker, (So 55k) we laughed at him & walked out. Went up the street (where Baseball was invented) Paid 50k for a GMC Acadia Denali (5k OFF) Phew!
My local VW dealer is adding all sorts of fee’s that they are having a tough time explaining, gas fee for $150 but they say that covers your first oil change that’s supposed to be free? Kinda shady
Don't buy a car from them !
kia wanted MSRP not willing to budge on pricing. I walked away ..
I guess you didn’t really want/need the car. Supply and demand
Just had my 2017 Z71 stolen. Took the guy less then 3 minutes. Design flaw with the newer GM trucks.
My mom was forced to wait in that room as they got her AWD Sportage for 8 hours and then it wasn’t even the correct car it was a front wheel drive
Wow! I sure feel fortunate to have gotten my custom ordered 2021 Dodge Charger Scat Pack Widebody below MSRP from a dealership in Las Vegas (also pronounced as "Lost Wages"). This was in the midst of the Brampton Plant shutdowns.
Still taking delivery of my MYP soon. You ain’t gonna rain on my parade. 😂
I loved my experience shout out to keystone Chevrolet in sand springs Oklahoma
Bought a car from them about 4 and a half years ago. I was working for TCSO at the jail and went to their dealer right after i got out of work. The amount of sales man that were standing around inside and outside compared to the amount of sales man that disappeared when I got of my car was hilarious. They were gone. Decent experience tho and they sold me a good vehicle.
Hyundai also doesn’t honor their warranty. Never buy from them
We have a franchise auto dealer where I live that is notoriously bad, yet they still have tons of customers. Not sure how they've managed to stay in business and not burn all of the local population out on their BS, but they've been around for over 30 years now and just keep getting more auto brands under their control.
My local KIA dealership wants your phone and email before you see their inventory. So I just put in theirs. Later on they were investigated because they were lying on peoples' finance applications. The worst one was a guy whose income was stated 10x over what he actually made.
Doc fee is not required by law in many states. It is purely another hidden profit center for the dealer.
I bought a 2017 Kia Niro new and in retrospect they definitely took me for way more than I should have paid. Love the car, but will never go back to that dealer.
Decided after that experience that I'd never go in blind like that again. My wife and I just bought a used a 2013 Ford F-150, and your videos had us super prepared for everything. Got a great price on exactly the truck we wanted, and got good trade in value for her Nissan, all thanks to binge watching your videos. Definitely will sub and keep watching.
I sell Kias and my dealership in particular has chosen not to mark them up, however, many dealers are doing this.
I got my Soul back in '12, its base model, had no mark ups and got a good deal. I keep looking at the new ones kinda favor the Neptune Blue ones
So let me get this straight. Hyundai gives you a hotdogs and popcorn and your dealer is giving a pickup away and we aren't paying for it, realllly?
I went to a chevy dealer yesterday and i couldn't believe the numbers they gave me 43000 on a 2018 traverse and 35000 on a 2021 i asked whats up with the price they said the 2018 is top of the line where the 21 isnt and gave four work sheets trying to tell me 2 of the 2021s are different cars and they had same exact vin number priced differently i just got up and left it just blew my mind
St . Cloud Fl ..chevy plays a lot of games..a real buyer beware place.