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The Neuroscientist Dedicated To Finding A Tinnitus Cure - Dr. Dirk De Ridder
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Today, Dr. Dirk De Ridder, a Belgian Neurosurgeon, joins us to share his extensive knowledge on tinnitus as one of the world's leading tinnitus experts. Tune in to hear Dr. De Ridder and Dr. Ben discuss everything about tinnitus, from diagnoses to treatments to the newest industry research!
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This is a good research
i hear much good about susan shores device. why would dirk not be optimistic on that treatment and seeing that coming sooner than 5-6 years? Why are we not doing anything to let people involve themselves=
Holy crap. Not one drop of snake oil. It is so rare to get quality information on this subject. 'Helpful' does not do justice. It is enlightening and and extremely encouraging to know there are people like this working towards a viable treatment. This is the sort of research that changes lives. Every step forward, everything that adds to the body of knowledge on this subject is laudable.
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
Amen to that
Tinnitus for 43 years. Hope he finds a cure!!!
I have tinnitus for over 5 years. Somatic for sure as I can modulate it moving my jaw and neck. Most of the time it is very loud.
It totally ruined my life. No help from any specialist. It turned on fight or fly syndrome in me. Very strong anxiety. Its constant and debilitating, emotionally painful. Hard to start each day. However I have young kids so the show must go on. I cant give up. I hope they find something before I do. Stay strong my brothers and sisters. Please remember you are not alone. There is many like us. On the happy note even though its tough I still run family and pretty serious international business. So yes! We can do it! Its just harder.
Yes I have somatic tinnituis.Had it 2 years.Mine gets extremely loud with opening mouth chewing food yawning and even just moving head slightly.Even going for a walk.I know how you feel.It has totally ruined my life.My husband has cancer and I have a daughter so I have to be strong .stay strong my friend.
Honestly governments should create a safe canal allowing us, random citizens of the world, to give money for research for this terrible condition (and all conditions, by the way).
@@vegetossgss1114 Amen 🙏🏼
You need to change mentality, it did not at all ruin your life. You remain able to be with family and work, this is great! I had severe nerve pain AND high T for 10 years, and managed to keep living , before 2 worsening T events made my life truly ruined and unbearable, living in constant torture and nightmare. Anyway, still hope you find relief for your struggles
Same. Got family look after etc with Tinnitus and Hyperacusis. . How are you doing now
Thank you for your efforts and I pray for everyone who has this awful condition 📿📿🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️I have in both ears buzzing and ringing and sometimes hissing anybody reading this you Are not ALONE WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER WHY BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE EFFECT OF TINNITUS HAS ON US ALL WE HOPE AND PRAY 🙏we find a cure for US ALL GODBLESS EVERYBODY ✝️🙏📿📿📿🙏🙏🙏
This man deserves the Nobel Price. Much support from Morocco. Thanks a lot for your research Doctor De Ridder!
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
Change your job it is causing a lot of stress. Stay away from toxic and unsupportive people. Focus time on praying and self healing. Exercise and diet is the best self treatment.
This man is a saint. Thank you so much for your dedication to Tinnitus research Dr Deridder & Dr Ben
You're welcome, Mark. Be well. :)
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
This was, no doubt, the best episode so far.
Thank you, Manel! :)
I do totally agree Manel. Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
I have had Tinnitus ever since I was a child I'm now 60 yrs old and there is days that my tinnitus is unbearable.I have found that taking aspirin , eating chocolate and drinking alcohol really takes this to the next level.I pray they will find a cure someday.
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
The problem is, the medical profession works like a closed shop union. If you are an outsider to the medical professions, you stand little chance of working with them. Even if you had the solution to cure tinnitus, they would rebuff you. (As said by one of their own colleagues and was proven to be the case) If you think this writing is loaded, you’d be right, but don’t ask.
One day!
days? every second of my life is torment. But I hope you found some kind of peace...
I find sugar makes my tinnitus much worse
Sounds blood flow related
Very helpful. Dr Dirk is a star in this field truly well spoken and truly tackling the route cause of tinnitus. Wishing him all the best
Glad it helped, Rassem. Be well. :)
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
Thankfully experts like Dr Dirk are working on this issue. God bless them and you too Dr Ben for helping the tinnitus community
Fascinating and engaging podcast--very helpful. Thank you, Drs. De Ridder and Thompson. Dr. Ben, as someone who is relatively new to all this, I'm grateful for you and your constant efforts to invite such prominent scholars and practitioners to join you. After watching this podcast and a number of others, all of which have been incredibly helpful and hopeful, I scheduled my consultation and am excited about working with Treble Heath.
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
I pray the Lord give you our cure-- because of your care and compassion!! To all of us-- try to stay strong!! Continued blessings to you Sir and your family!!
Thank you, Gera. :)
All my hopes and prayers that researchers like Dr. De Ridder find us all something soon. Hero
So very informative. I am praying that someday a cure will be found for tinnitus. As for me and so many more it definitely does affect our quality of life and not in a good way. Thank you Ben.
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Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
yes ann its inportant
I had an appointment with Dr. De Ridder last summer. Tinnitus, hyperacusis
He prescribed:
Clonazepam
Aripiprazol
Deanxit
Klonopen worsens Tinnitus !!!!!
Thank you for reaching out to Prof Ridder. Ive been following him for a few years and always love an update on his progress every few months or so. So thank you for making this update possible.
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This was the most well-explained episode i have heard on tinitus thus far
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I am a female that in 1979. I wasn't feeling well. I fainted with upper hives came out on my upper body & as A PACKAGE ringing in the ears came down with Chronic Fatigue syndrome/migraines/Fibromyalgia/and dizziness, & some days Vertigo.... Went to Los Angels Ear institute. Then again 1982. No, Doctor could help me. I raised two sons & continued working to raise them because I did not want to live in a car. A 6 yr.old & 12 yr. old.
FORTY FOUR years ahead now.... November to Dec. 2021. Migraines/ headaches were lasting 2 to 3 weeks, but it turned out to be Covid... My son took me to the hospital ... Not knowing I had Covid in Dec. 2021. I was hospitalized right then for almost 3 weeks. Now, I have LONG-COVID BRAIN FOG for 14 months. I thought I had dementia & had a MRI NO Dementia but I get lost driving & the RINGING IS a HIGHER pitch. Doctors have not come up with any solutions & now we are in 2023. Super sensitive with any meds, & alcohol plus light & to much noise. It's. all exhausting with all of this package. My biggest Wish would be to be SUPER HEALTHY because that is the most important thing in this world. I am 77 yrs. old now.
I wish more Doctors would know more like Dr. De Ridder....
Thank you sir ben, always love your work, give up us lot of help and hope, we have our group called Tinnitus Philippines and most or almost all of us knows you and your work which we appreciate so much.
It is nice to see this Dr. That doesn't have the problem himself dedicates his time to help people that has this issue so annoying sometimes. Thanks to this chanel and to Dr. Ben Thompson.
So annoying you say? Maybe annoying for lucky you! Time
to start telling the truth!! For others it should be called suicidal tinnitus!!!
Doctor De Ridder, you are a true HERO. I really hope your team will find a cure for this awful condition! Then, I hope technology will allow us to find a way to make it less invasive.
VERY helpful. God Speed and God Bless Dr De Ridder and all the researchers around the world working on a solution. Please help us.
Our pleasure!
Very interesting. Good luck to all the researchers. I'll be waiting.
Thank you for finding the cause of the tunittus symptoms and to find the cure ! As you have medication for migraine headaches, i wish and pray God that you find the medication for this condition is not easy to have it 😢😢
Very helpful. Praying for a successful treatment to be found. Each day is a struggle but you have to keep going💪
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Tinnitus is a side effect of vaccination
Very helpful. Two things: after surgeries (anesthesia) my tinnitus was always temporarily gone. General and Iv sedation. On a day to day basis, I think of tinnitus like depth of field in a camera lens setting. I listen to sounds in the foreground with tinnitus existing in the background. That requires a bit of practice but then becomes automatic. If I THINK about my tinnitus, it moves to the foreground. Sometimes a continuous high pitched rushing sound and sometimes like sitting in an aviary at the zoo. Good luck to everyone.
EXTREMELY helpful. Sending gratitude 🙏
Excellent, I have taken Dr Ben advice and purchased hearing aids and this have improved my quality of life by 70% ,i have a some hearing loss other things that help alot is massage of head ,neck, shoulders, as I have somatic/ pulsatile tinnitus,
other left side mainly ,this changes to non pulsatile after massages, the big change is after a great sleep I have a very good day , Thank you Dr Ben
Thanks for sharing your journey, Lawrence. You're welcome! :)
so at 4:00 you said implanting the electrode worked!!! amazing!
Very interesting a different approach
Thank you Dr De Ridder and Dr Ben for presenting this incredibly helpful podcast on CZcams. I found it very interesting. It is exciting to learn that you are continuing with the research and what could potentially be a break through in 6 - 10 years' time. Good luck and thank you for pursuing with the subject.
Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it, Fernleaf. Be well. 😊
I have Tinnitus for 4 years and counting. I can modulate it with jaw, ear etc movement. It’s too damn loud right now sometime I think I can trade everything for a true silence.
I willingly will volunteer for any human trial, medicine, injection, surgery anything you name. I just want this to a low level sound that's at least bearable.
Can you guys help me?
nobody cares, they only work for the money. I strongly believe gathering a group of severe sufferers and focusing on them would be the first step to actually help people the fastest. Shore has been working for 10 years and she is the best bet so far.... way too slow
Helpfull, Thank you
We're glad you found it helpful! Thank you!
Please keep on working and researching!
This has been helpful. Mine started 3 weeks ago and I might have been lucky finding this channel early.
I’ve been doing anxiety and stress reduction with mindfulness and breathing exercises, combined with stopping coffee and masking/habituation for around two weeks now and my tinnitus has come down from 7-8 to 1-2 in such a short time.
I do suspect I have several of these sub types, because I do have somatic tinnitus, since it does change with my neck position or by clenching my teeth.
But this one has a higher frequency, almost like an electrical sound. And at times this goes away and I’m left with this mild hizz that’s constant. And doesn’t seem to change by neck position etc.
But weirdly enough I never experience both at the same time.
It's great to hear that you've found some relief with mindfulness and other techniques! Since you've noticed a connection between clenching your teeth and your tinnitus, it would be a good idea to let your dentist know about this. They might be able to help you address the clenching, which could potentially reduce your tinnitus symptoms even further.
I had a concussion in 2021 with tons of various therapies for healing, one year I woke up with tinnitus. I didn’t have it before. After it wasn’t going away I started working with my Chiropractor and there’s a reduction in the tinnitus. I think there needs to be other treatments explored for tinnitus. I keep a journal and determined to found out the cause. I was also told from naturopaths and Chinese medicine practitioners to get lots of REST, avoid stress, fried spicy foods and alcohol.
My tinitus began early this year. So far coping but mine varies greatly in volume . Fortunately I am retired and my case intensity from listening to other seems about a 3-4. I found that taking .5 mg alprazolam and playing sound of night time crickets audio really helped my sleep quality and I usually have low intensity when I wake but usually it ramps up
During the day. Good luck to all suffering this disruptive condition out there.
It sounds like you've found some strategies that help with your tinnitus. I'm sorry to hear it is bothersome during the day. Let's talk about it :) use this link to schedule a complimentary telehealth consultation with one of our tinnitus experts treble.health/free-consultation
As far as meditation goes of course that is helpful but I have found if you lead a certain lifestyle of low or no stress and don’t engage in political conversations that can cause anxiety don’t watch the news and eat healthy and stay away from sugar and salt and caffeine Will be the best in my opinion the way to reducing. I am not an expert I am just someone with tinnitus that have explored different options and that’s just my opinion of course it may be different for others so but it works for me
Yes, this was very Helpful - and hopeful, as there is almost never discussion of research and a cure, just ways of learning to live with tinnitus. Fwiw, as someone who was exposed to loud sounds in my youth, I would also love to see more preventative information shared with the general public to do whatever possible to limit the cases in future populations.
Absolutely Helpful!! I don’t know what kind of tinnitus I have. I do not have a ENT that knows anything or cares. He did give me an MRI around my left ear,head…. It’s loud ,very annoying, and making me depressed!
Same here
Helpful, thank you so much for providing such in-depth information. Remaining hopeful.
Very well done and helpful. Thank you for your dedication and commitment to helping those of us who suffer with debilitating tinnitus.
You're welcome, Jerry. :)
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Great information! Thank you. I'm going to talk to my doctor about tms & see about how I can heal this myself
Best of luck!
Hugely helpful. Certainly the path I am taking with my ENT. Foundational method are core. Having something to fall back on is important before review to many alternatives methods. Habituating tinnitus can be a hike . Best to pack the right kit first and keep it light.
VERY HELPFUL Doctor. Thank's a lot! May god bless you!
You're welcome, Vegeto. Glad it was helpful. :)
Be well!
Given the findings or Professor Susan Shore in that tinnitus is generated in the DCN, that was backed up by 2 successful clinical trials, shouldn't we actually focus and build on this? It seems like even Dr Ridder goes about it like a fishing expedition. The understanding is there in terms of pathophysiology, so collaboration with the Shore Lab is a must.
Helpful
Glad it helped. :)
This is fascinating! I have felt that a jolt of electricity would help me with my T. I agree that it is over activity in the brain and not only in the ears. Lately, my ears have started hurting some and T has gone up a another notch due to stress.
Have had tinnitus for almost a year. I have variable tinnitus two to three days a week tinnitus free or very low
tinnitus the rest of the week moderate to very bothersome tinnitus. For me, I think pressure changes in the ear make me tinnitus-free.
If I take a nasal spray when I am tinnitus-free, the tinnitus comes within a short time. Haven't heard of anyone else having tinnitus like this.
I also have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS) which can cause tinnitus.
I can no longer drink alcohol as the last time I drank alcohol I had 4 weeks of severe worsening of my tinnitus probably due to MCAS.
Very Helpful..
So good to hear Josef Raucheker is still in the loop.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching, Peter.
Very helpfull. Thank you so much. Greetings from Poland
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I’ve recently had vertigo and then tinnitus followed.
I put an ice cold flannel on my neck and to my amazement the ringing stopped 11:12 with in seconds. Unfortunately it only lasted for about a minute. But I thought it was worth mentioning.
When is the cure coming??
Hard 😢
Dr.thompson i am truly appreciative for all you are doing to help us thank you
.Iam very much interested in your Telehealth service extremely helpful
You're welcome, Jorge! Be well. :)
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What about brain implants to disrupt the path of tinnitus?
Dear Dr.ben, discussion with Dr.dirk de rider is very useful and also easily understandable for tinitus patients.
I would like to share my experience with tinitus. I got this around 2020 November after I suffered from covid. In the beginning it was somewhat bearable but I used to be more anxious to know the reason. I approached audiologist ent surgeon but the improvement is very less,moreover sometimes it is unbearable.
The mask music available in youtube is working
I noticed that I will get in the morning after wakeup.
Thanks to both of you ,let's hope a specific treatment will come in near future for treating tinitus
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Thank you so much for this, Sr. Ben!
My pleasure, Alberto! Be well. :)
Hi... I have been following u since some time... I have tinnitus since year 2002 ...and I have done everything to get rid of it... But this summer I got very good result in india with natural cure ... I have a lot to share about my experience and remedies... I am happy that I did not try any surgery...
Yeah but you're trying to scam people ,I know your type...
@@jeffyoung345 what do u mean by scam.....? ... looks like you missed out the real point. Do you know the how does it feel to bear tinnitus for so many years..... researchers are doing fabulous job no doubt.... But let me tell you , this medical condition is not new to Ayurveda, Naturopathy and Panchkarma and there are remedies available. Only thing required is acceptance without prejudice. 😌
What remedies u used that helped u to get rid from tinnitus
I would really appreciate any information you would share about the natural care you got good results with. Please share.
Please share the treatment experiences further or make a video explaining the process. I travel to India once a year and my tinnitus began while I was working out in the gym on 10/31/22 out of nowhere I felt my left ears getting heavy and clogged. 3 weeks later I’m making some recovery but tinnitus remains and getting better.
Helpful and broad ranging. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! You're welcome, Leon!
I was in his clinic last month in Gent. Very helpful and nice people there :)
Have yoy noticed improvement?
Glad to hear that, Andreas. Thank you for sharing. :)
Did you travel overseas or do you live in Belgium?
I live in Norway. I was there to do testing. I did a qeeg test and they explained to me possible treatments. I have not done any treatment yet, as I am still planning to fit it in with my work schedule
Oui effectivement c est une vidéo très intéressante et dans quelques années , certains d entre-nous pourront voir le bout du tunnel.
Yes helpful. Its good to see the people combating this awful thing.
Please keep the research going. You are our only hope. Search everywhere. Outside the box. Could mushrooms help for example?
You should allow us to comment with tips! This was a great episode
very helpful in hearing that research is on going for tinnitus
Dyscncra worked amazingly well for me. Unfortunately...as with most ENT's, audiologists and device makers...they were not reliable, as they went out of business.
Also, I have been taking electrolytes lately and notice the T and pain in ears would go down the days I consume the electrolytes.
Can tinnitus be characterized by the FREQUENCY Hz and if so, then an opposing or INTERFERENCE FREQUENCY might be engineered to essentially cancel out the tinnitus freq as perceived by the individual sufferer? And why do tinnitus patients invariably suffer from a hearing loss?
A friend of mine used DMT and his tinnitus disappeared for a couple of days completely. He had it since more then 20 years. Unfortunate it came back but I think it could be the right drug for this experiment. PS: it was a surprise and not the reason for taking DMT.
What is DMT?
@@anapaulacavaco4870 An extremely intense psychedelic drug that you vaporise and then completely leave reality for around 5 - 10 minutes seeing incomprehensible geometry and concepts. It is physically safe (cant overdose or damage your brain, very little side effects), but illegal, and one of the strongest psychoactive drugs out there. Due to its intensity and instant tolerance gained, it is NOT addictive. Unlike drugs such as opioids or stimulants which act on brain pathways which give pleasure (endorphins & dopamine), psychedelic drugs act through serotonin pathways which are much more complex and control fundamental consciousness rather than give pleasure. DMT is the type of drug that if you took without any prior experience with 'softer' psychedelics such as LSD or psilocybin, you'd almost certainly have a terrible experience. And the intensity of it leaves users not wanting to use it for long periods of time afterwards, even if it was profound and positive for them.
So unfortunately not a viable tinnitus treatment, but it gives interesting insight that it alters perception of tinnitus. Other serotonergic based drugs like MDMA and LSD have been reported to lower tinnitus symptoms, but also reported to worsen them. Which indicates serotonergic pathways in the brain play a role in percepting phantom sounds.
@@anapaulacavaco4870 dimethyltryptamine. It's a psychedelic.
So he did implant someone with an electrode and it worked?
I GUESS its helpful. I am not sure HOW mind blew up in Dec 2023. I would be happy with just even a 10 to 20% reduction!! Mine is a 10 in right ear. An 8 in left.
I've had it from zoloft and concerts. Since 1994. I'm 54 now. Last December it decided to explode into LOUDER . I don't know why but I'm 85% sure its some sort of Central Nervous System issues because I could feel it in my forehead behind it and between eyes. Whole body went into tremors
Gabapentin only thing to calm everything.
Hell of a journey. It got louder again the 2nd day of decreasing Gabapentin.
So here I am. :(
Many thanks for posting! It seems a pure enigma to unravel...
You're welcome, Leonardo. Be well.
Helpful! Thanks!
You're welcome, Brett!
Thank you for your dedication .. if you need participants count me in my noise is between 8.and 10 ...horrendous
I tell you this, I’m not waiting. I’m happy to try a hero’s dose to see if it helps me. It’s easy for those who’s tinnitus is just there, but for mine which is so loud I can’t think, 10 years on …. I’m done with all this fannying about.
what anti depressants did you try? im sorry, i thought even worst cases like me and others would get relief on 10 years
very informative, Thank you,
Glad you enjoyed it. You're welcome! 😊
Exceptionally helpful.
Excellent video thanks so much!!
You're welcome, Micah! :)
Would like to know his theories around sudden hearing loss; and tinnitus as a precursor which is made much worse after single sided deafness occurs.
Thankyou combo of what you are talking of will hopefully be helpful
Thank you it was very helpful
You're welcome Fabián! :)
Great presentation. I noticed that Dr. De Ridder mentioned prescribing acamprosate in cases where tinnitus improves when consuming alcohol. I was wondering if any one out there has had any experience with this medication. This is the second time that I hear someone knowledgeable in this area mention this treatment.
This information was helpful. Thanks so much!
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Doctor De Ridder, thank so much for this valuable information. I would like to know if tinnitus may decrease cognitive processing speed because I’ve become very slow. I might have somatic type and head aches
It is helpful conversations, good to know there are scientific who care about tinnitus community, I have developing tinnitus hope there is cure before it gets worse, I read about the third where they use shock therapy on the nerve that’s located in the neck but more research is needed there, thank you all the research doing this Good work.
You're very welcome, Rahul! Be well! :)
Extremely informative! Helpful. Thank you.
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Very helpful !!!
Glad it was helpful, Olito. Be well. :)
Some "experts" claim sound therapy is good, others say ear protection is bad and vice Vera for Tinnitus and Hyperacusis. Which please..?
Great and helpful information! Thank you
You're welcome, George! Be well.
Very helpful… thank you exciting news!!!
You're welcome, Deb! :)
Helpful! 🙏🏽
Glad it helped, Nathalie. Be well. 😊
Excellent podcast! Thank you.
Thanks for watching, hapisd. Enjoy exploring our other CZcams videos, as well as blog articles on our Treble Health website.
Very very helpful . Thank you
You're welcome, Dino! :)
very helpful, thank you.
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An objective test has been developed at the bionics institute in Australia
Thanks for the information. I will consult my local doctors help. My tinnitus is very irritating, sometimes I feel like am deaf. Thanks once again.
You're welcome, Hilda! Best of luck!
Thank you so much for searching I’ve been waiting for any treatment make them feel better let me know if I can do anything thank you so much Doctor I really appreciate it God bless you
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My God, i can modulate my tennitus with neck movements! If I stretch real good
Very helpful and hopeful
Glad it was helpful! Be well, Chris!
So listening to the conversation no one knows the cause of tinnitus it's all a waste of time I just have to put up with my twenty-year-old tinnitus that is with me until the day comes when I die!