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- The Smederevo steelworks was once considered the "pride of Serbia." But since being acquired by China, one study is reporting a four-fold increase in cancer diagnoses around Serbia.
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German concern for some Serbian village. Seriously...
Or real concern about Chinese investments and rapid develop of Serbia.
Why is the fact that the plant is Chinese so important? If it were a US plant with same emissions, rhis probably wouldnt be news.
100% agree, it’s a premeditated media report
There are no such types of overseas factories of the United States. There are too many of those types of overseas factories in China, but they do not follow laws or rules.
Every day we see news about problems in America's high-tech industry. And Europe imposes huge penalties on Apple, Google, etc.
However, Europeans who love China always do their best to defend China. this is wrong. I advise you not to forget that Europe is a place that regulates and criticizes American industries virtually all day long.
"Serbia has a substantial burden of cancer deaths, which might be a consequence of the depleted uranium bombs used by NATO in 1999 during air strikes" -The Lancet, Oncology
@@nenadvojinovic7913 True, but same applies to US and UK companies! Best is to just produce domestically. Globalism is a curse.
Exactly! Hitting the nail on the head! DW/Germany is so jealous of China! 😂😂😂
Steel mill is steel mill，doesn't matter it's Chinese or Germen （Germen is worse）
So if the steel mill isn't Chinese owned, but instead by Germany it will be better?
Certainly will receive more attention inside Germany by various environmental activists.
So what about Chinese environmentalists? I don't see any action from them, what are they doing?
Clean air and water is a basic human right. 😢
ikr .
Except if you overpopulate!
where are the Just Stop Oil protestors??
Not in serbia 😂
No surprise for anyone who had lived in China. We’d seen this decades ago.
ikr .
What exactly chinese cities did you live in, and how long?
So you're pretending previous owners ran the mill according to the book? People are sick because of DECADES of pollution.
Yeah sure like
1) Union Carbide Bhopal
2) East Palestine Ohio Train Derailment
3) PFAS Chemical (3M, Dupont)
4) Deepwater Horizon
and hundred of other cases involving US Multinational Companies.
Nothing surprise for anyone who had lived in USA. We'd seen this decades ago..
Where did you live in China and when?
Chinese steel company 😂😂😂 Your (German )luxurious cars polluting the whole WORLD 😢😢😢
Wait, isn't Germany the largest CO2 emitter in Europe?
Problably but dw does plenty of reporting about that, they also did some reporting about increasing coal use and shutting down nuclear plants
Unfortunately that's right but also the fact that the CO2 is something different than the dust, chrome, cadmium, lead and the whole other stuff....
Russia isn’t always considered part of Europe especially that far east
@@quasimodo8215 Including Sulfur Dioxide. I'm sure Germany emits those too. Can't emit CO2 alone
Nope
I guess Serbia doesn't have an environmentall ministry?
I guess those living near by are still in better situation than those who live near DuPond plants.
We do have but it is useless as any institution here
Why are they allowed there?
It’s been there for countless of years lol!
We can ask the same question about DuPond plants. They spread PFAS chemicals
Why were american bio labs allowed in Ukraine ?
@@igor7195 why does Pfizer have 12 Branches in China lol!
It sure seems like they’re clearing out the locals.
德国政府过去在清除犹太人，现在在清除乌克兰人……然后自己把自己伪装成忠实的问题反悔者。可耻的表演就如！
Who?😂😂Americans?
@@IamHandsome4uw china free land
I have two questions and these are: "How well did American managers do when they controlled the steel mills a decade or more back in time"? "Did DW do a news item about pollution under American management"?
irrelevant.. current owners inherit an issue so now its their problem...
@@mf5514 May be irrelevant but selective reporting by various mainstream media outlets does not sit well with me neither.
whats aboutism. not relevant at this point. other countries also had it, she said its always been issue but now they think it worse. if you have to go to China to make a report, how does anything get done?
Funny how a while back china was crying about japan's pollution and yet ...
有趣的是你居然相信德国之音。😢😢
water around china is 100 times more radioactive than the treated water from japanese plants
@@user-zp6dz9jw3g我刚刚放了个屁
ikr/
Lol that affects the Pacific Ocean of Radiation that’s totally different scale! It’s like comparing a mite on your face to a whale
If the PRC doesn't look out for their own people... what makes you think they have any regards for you!
Truth!!!
Have you been to China?
Yeah sure the US government really look after their own citizen like the east palestine ohio train derailment and for sure US multinational really care about the local in foreign country they operate like the Union Carbide bhopal plant in india !!!
China didn't illegaly annex a part of our territory, as a small country that has to take bad industries, we'd rather China pollute us than USA or EU
"Serbia has a substantial burden of cancer deaths, which might be a consequence of the depleted uranium bombs used by NATO in 1999 during air strikes" -The Lancet, Oncology
A kad je investor Amerika...............nista se ne cuje.
Oni samo dolaze ako mogu da ti prodaju oruzije a to tebe kosta. I kada su kupili zeljezaru to je bilo za jedan dolar.
BOLJE DA NE DODJU
Did they buy over an existing steel mill or is it a new one?
When the steel mill was owned by Serbia, you called it a "pride", after it failed and A Chinese company bought it, you call it an evil, so what has become wrong of you?
So many young serbs are leaving bc they want their kids exposed to all the bad air. I go there twice a year. And in winter I can’t breathe. I notice right off the plane
Why don’t they ask their Russian friends for help?
@@rowredround7206Russians can't help themselves. Most of the Russia is actually worse than Serbia .
As a Chinese I feel sad that the way they do business remains the same aboard. Corruption plays an important role here
The US do it as well to their own citizens. There are countless toxic plants killing people living around them. Check out Graphic packaging in Kalamazoo, or Palestine toxic release of PVC after train derailment, just to name a few. These cheap resources end up in glitzy construction projects in major cities. Sad.
U are not chinese. LOL
哪国的？
"Serbia has a substantial burden of cancer deaths, which might be a consequence of the depleted uranium bombs used by NATO in 1999 during air strikes" -The Lancet, Oncology
Bot detected.
That is sad, very sad... But I doubt that dw would have recorded the same documentary if US STEEL still owned the steel mill...
So after decades of adding economic development growth and money its only been discovered now that this industry is a problem. Why? And why now just because China bought a decrepid factory from the previous owners. So the illness was there before China purchased it. So will you be suing the former owners or not.😊
Serbia didn't say anything, but the third party, Germany, was pointing fingers. have a finger in the pie
I’m scared for all the African countries making deals with China… it will come back to haunt them
It's not like making deals with Westerners has benefited Africans. Basically they have no other better option.
yeah, you should make deals with the west which had captured your ancestors to US as slaves.
I didn't see you scared when those Africans were jobless and living a life of abject poverty.
How Europe allows China to own these and not regulate them... what did you expect to happen? ....of course!
China owned this mill in 2016 from US, US was the previous owner, blame US for polluting not china.🤡
But you were OK when the Americans owned it just a few years ago?
Europe is a continent and Serbia is an independent country on that continent. Basic geography
I wonder if the plant is not owned by the Chinese, it would still receive the same amount of attention and coverage.
Residents always complain about steel mills, even in Pennsylvania.
People complained about steel mills and other polluters, and they got reported by the media. I guess you have never heard of Erin Brocovich
By your logic there should not be any report because the steel mill is operated by Chinese?
Can’t compar3 the two.
@@70-860 sure, but they never target a country like they are doing here. China china china.
Companies which exploit natural resources communicate with neighbor residents and try to operate safely, in general. though, most Chinese companies are prone to default these efforts.
The only think it's that the thing about writing CHINA is way too much.
I'm sure that's there's are many other factories done the same... This kind of language is so wrong
Before Chinese company accquired the plant, the ex-USA owner must be innocent and kind; when Chinese happen to bought it out, the blame suddenly come.
OMG, Sorry, that's our fault as always AND as usual😂
Serbian government owned it for many years after the US owner. So it's probably the Serbian government let it rot, then the Chinese owner made it even worse.
Good DW is on top of issues like this. It might not seem like they make much of a difference. But I really believe it motivates people to think about issues and eventually we all act and change is at least initiated. I doubt there's another news service that goes to these places, interviews people, interprets in voice (not just close caption text, which is a pain). DW is a credit to the profession of video journalism.
A part of my weekend well spent 👏👏👏👏👏
'Having a job is more important than the environment' - a slave in the capitalistic system ...
Yeah, oddly enough, benefiting a communist nation, China. And Serbia, a close ally of Russia.
True. But other companies (owned by westerners) do the same.
Does Americans steel mill NOT polluting cities in their own country??? Why is this pin on race and not the industry itself?
It is the same in Bosnia in Zenica, where Indias Arcelor Mittal is doing the same. But India is not your new enemy, China is.
YOu don't watch a lot of this type of media, do you?
So, the mill is there for forever, and has now become a problem. I guess environmental headline isn't good for click anymore, so adding Chinese will bring in some ppl.
You got to shut it down though. At least for upgrade. They gonna lose their jobs, but hey, better be poor than dead, right? Right?
Oh sorry that they don't dump petabytes of documentaries all at once princess.
DW doesn't care the issue until chinese took over the dead old steel mill 😂😂
All investors are same , same problems are happening in the United States.
There’s nothing specifically Chinese about it.
It's funny how Germany doesn't talk about there coal power station and coal mining operation polluting there people.
This same thing is happening in Hungary and will only get worse as more and more Asian factories will produce batteries etc. In the case of Hungary, it is also S. Korean factories. They and the Hungarian government are more concerned about their money than lives.
What kind of environmental damage does a battery factory cause? Isn’t this a high-tech industry and job creation project? Battery manufacturing is a representative eco-friendly business field. It is right for the Hungarian government to attract large-scale eco-friendly industries. you are wrong.
@@lifeextension9217😂
I think you'd better live in the primitive society, there is not any industry pollution at all where you can live to 30 years old.
@@pipiqiqi4010 the CCP bots are working overtime. Just google ---Hungary battery plants pollution -- then you can choose which articles to read and come to your own conclusion.
@@lifeextension9217 the CCP bots are working overtime. Just google ---Hungary battery plants pollution -- then you can choose which articles to read and come to your own conclusion. Or you can visit and talk to the locals and see the mess yourself.
its not about the People its about MONEY, That,s how they think ,they don,t give a sh- t
I see what you don,t see. this a sprite world we are NOT Number 1 they are gods holy of every thing creation
Chinese investors look forward to the return of their investments..they ignored the peoples health and the environment..they loved money..they dont care other lives.
All investors. There’s nothing specifically Chinese about it.
no matter which country, all the investor care more about the return than the environment, don't be so double standard.
Where were you when it was owned by the Americans just a few years ago?
We should build in timber instead of steel
Most steel plants have similar problems. But DW is keen to blame China from any angle, even though the steel plant's problems are more the fault of its former US owner. There are 2 women and 1 media in Germany whose everything serves American interests, they are the Foreign Minister, von der Leyen, DW. They all love America as much as von der Leyen loves her six American children and her American husband.
I grew up in this region. Even as teen I was saying that this dust is filling our lungs. 30 years have passed and it got only worse. The graveyards just got bigger and bigger. If you ever wondered how bad corruption can get - this video is it. Back then, people who worked before in this steel plant state that it is designed in such way that should have a proper filters that only simple vapour should come out. But those filters were not seen in more than 40 years.
Doesn't industry pollute wherever it is?
bruh that prob a nickle and iron reacting to air thats dang poisnous and could cause a permanent lung damage and other stuff
And this is one of reasons why wind mills are less green than we thought. Second is that those turbines cannot be recycled and have to be be burried not to mention cutting down forrests
Karolina I've already answered your question. You should inform yourself before making any statements public...
Finally someone has the guts to point out industries..
Everyone else is like cars cars cars..
DW(Germany)is indifferent to the killing of thousands in Gaza but is concerned about the health of Serbians. The only difference to them is the doing party.
They don’t care about Serbs anymore than they care about Gaza. Don’t kid yourself. Look at their history and tell me they gaf about Serbs.
@@alexanderjdivic4784why would anyone care about serbs 😂
4:30 "having a job is more important than the environment..." I mean we share the earth with people like this.
Chinese are so naughty. Why can't they be stopped?
DW is worried about the Serbs ...what a joke.
This report is like a tiger crying for its prey rabbit
Sad but nothing is gonna change unless big money gets involved, probably
ikr/
Who buys the steel, I wonder… 🤔
Poor countries have few options.
The best industries are kept in the developed countries.
The high polluting industries are up for grab.
If Serbia doesn’t want it ….there will be other countries that want it.
The question is, if Serbia really needs this/can afford this.
let them have it then
Metallurgy can be clean. See: electric arc furnaces.
The real problem is that politicians don't think about us, but only themselves and money, that is all that matters to them. Air pollution is a huge problem here, but I doubt that it will ever be fixed..
@@chocolateunicorn1883Actually, cleaner metallurgy is more profitable. You don't have to spend money on cleanups or cover-ups.
No surprise here: China being China...
Those same problems are happening in the United States in Texas. And I believe it's a Chinese company owns that 1 too.
Awful lot of American companies doing the same thing in Texas as well.
The same problem happen in bhopal, india. i believe it was US multinational company called Union Carbide.
Well maybe if texas would quit voting for pro-corporate and greedy republicans you probably would see these thing being corrected. Along as you keep voting for them, you state deserves what your corporate overlords do regardless of where they are from. Embrace the suck, Tex.
@@drowranger676725,000 people died in Bhopal because of lax regulation laws by the US chemical enrichment plant. Leave it to the Americans to be good at projecting
That is delusional my friend. Of course, this is brought up cause of Chinese ownership. But the same things were going on while US STEEL owned this steel mill
da li se iko zapitao sta ce kuca pored fabrike? U kojoj to zemlji izgradis kucu pored fabrike i zalis se na zagadjenje?
The houses are older than the factory.
@@invader7191 nisu kuce starije od fabrike. Drzava je otkupila zemljiste na kojoj je napravljena fabrika ali su kasnije ljudi pravili kuce gde god su imali parce zemlje. I sad im smeta zagadjenje??? Naravno,krivica drzave je sto je uopste dozvolila gradnju tih kuca.
All investors are same , same problems are happening in the United States.
There’s nothing specifically Chinese about it.
Shocking.
If DW was serious in covering this story, the first step would've been to conduct their own independent air quality and water quality test. Instead, the only thing they have to present are witness statement and nothing else
hello Chinese bot :) sure thing))) this is PRESICELY why the plant says you need to go to china to schedule an interview with someone in Serbia 🤣
don't worry, they are sending in the Just Stop Oil crew, this will be taken care of rapidly
The Smederevo steelworks is not particularly old (1970s British technology) nor is it very large. It has always polluted nearby settlements, but that is no different to similar plants in Western Europe or the US. Should there be better environmental controls on steelworks worldwide? Yes, definitely. But the Smederevo plant is nowhere near the worst polluter. It is also not the cause of increased cancer deaths in Serbia. The cause of those extra cancers is the 1999 NATO bombing of Serbia (including Smederevo) and particularly the use of depleted Uranium bombs. The Chinese are not to blame for thousands of Serbian cancer deaths. The responsibility for those deaths rests firmly with the Americans.
You are lying.
Tell me the exact ammunition type and designation, I dare you. And after that, give me a study that shows a correlation between DU ammunition and cancer increase.
So funny to see DW Germans caring for Serbia , which they didnt when NATO was bombing Serbia 1998 .
It is funny that you don't remember why that bombardment took it place at first. Serbia didn't react to the warnings of the whole world about atrocities in the Kosovo by its military actions. That's the "small" but important detail...
"Serbia has a substantial burden of cancer deaths, which might be a consequence of the depleted uranium bombs used by NATO in 1999 during air strikes" -The Lancet, Oncology
@@quasimodo8215That's why Nato bombed and killed Civilians that has nothing with Kosovo?!
@@quasimodo8215Kosovo is Serbian territory ,nontheless, Serbia was bombed without UN approving it ,also there is 1244 UN resolution where is stated clearly that Kosovo is part of Serbian territory
@@quasimodo8215 “it was Yugoslavia's resistance to the broader trends of political and economic reform - not the plight of the Kosovar Albanians - that best explains Nato's war” - Strobe Talbott US Deputy Secretary of State
It is unfair to blame Chinese as the plant has been there for decades.
Nope. They keep it running and therefore they are responsible for its operations, period.
@@MikeSamuelsII-ve8gp before they took the plant, the Americans had operated it for decades, maybe the cancer rate raising is caused by the former owner.
Translation is NOT CORRECT!
Shame on you!
I am from Serbia and I don't care what those government bots will wrote! Factory should be managed long time ago, instead of this they are expanding it and everyone used this steel plant for their own purposes starting from Serbian politicians, before Americans and now Chinese corporations. Smederevo is the town which had such a potential, it is right next to the Danube, had very important fortress, bunch of history and was famous for its wine production while today it is unfortunately turned into a Factory garbage village full of waste, old industrial railway that thanks to the factory passing by in the middle of the road between the fortress and town itself. Fortress reconstruction was done in phases and some of preservation work were done terribly. Polished town center and couple of nice restaurants is no excuse to what the local political leaders had done from Smederevo in the past 30 years grounding it from a town into village again. Smederevo was somehow always at suffer, just as example during the WW2 mass explosion happened here (thanks to Germans who occupied it) killing 5000 people for a few seconds!
Dw sham on you.. they are have some jobs and the naziazm want to get this people job
Sloppy reporting.
The problem existed before and after the Chinese takeover.
When I visited Serbia, I was surrounded by plums of tobacco smoke everywhere I went. It was difficult to visit restaurants, bars and even walking out on the street.
It’s sad that their government is captured by the CCP but ultimately, it’s up to the will of the Serbians to determine their destiny.
If you really wish to cover exploitation by China, there are many other examples such as mines in Africa, forced labor, organ harvesting and genocide, especially in Xinjiang.
basically chinese nike and coco cola
Serb here. I have a little bit of an issue with the framing, and title of this report. As convenient it would be to blame the Chinese for this, the problem lies with us. Chinese companies operate all over the world and it is up to us to regulate and set the terms under which they do so, however we have a massive issue with lack of accountability in this country. We do have decent environmental regulation , but they are rarely, if ever enforced, and because there is no accountability among the upper ranks, companies and state official abuse this to their own advantage. This happens both with domestic and foreign owned businesses alike. People are slowly waking up to this, and we recently had successful environmental protests to stop foreign companies from starting lithium mining. Rules are only as good as the will to enforce them and the collective consciousness of the people. If we don't defend our right to a healthy and clean environment, we cannot expect others, especially foreign businesses to act accordingly. It is as simple as that.
How many steel companies here in Africa not for Chinese polluting the air
Sometimes media powers are confusing,showing poor side,not good side of location
Money, money, money!
Here is your equality. Will affect the young far worse.
Pogledaj nemacku i njihove zelezare, mnogo, mnogo mnogo gore a oni dosli da pljuju na Srbiju.
Its not that bad
and this is a country that wants to join EU?
one of the poorest countries in Europe.
Maybe Russia can help
Shouldn't Germany be more concerned about its rising inflation, negative GDP growth rate, increased crime rates, being only underperforming country amongst developed nations, instead of worrying about what is happening in other countries?
First, let's fix the domestic mess and then look outwards.
Can Serbia use electric-arcs furnaces for cleaner metallurgy?
Blame ur frequent govt that accepted the deal. China didnt force their way in. Everything china china china like US coached and paid u guys
Its sad, but in poor country ppl always need to make hard decision between sacrifice current generation for next gen, or opposite. If they do well, which means ensure to use those money to invest on future, that will still be an happy ending. Just like what Chinese ppl born in 60s/70s/80s did decades back. In the worst case, all those money end up in corruption, then the whole country will have neither now nor the future.
This should be spread over social nets and we shall raise concern and investigation 😢
看到这样的媒体报道，真是搞笑和讽刺，继续愚弄你们自己的人民吧。希望你们的360度外长能给你国指明道路。
Pa teto kada ju US Steel imao tu zelezaru mnogo vise bilo zagadjeno i niko nije radio. Umesto da sedis BAS preko puta zelezare, idi pravi kucu dalje. Radio sam po svetu i svako ko je imao kucu preko puta nije voleo da bude tu. Ali teto, ljudi rade, prave pare i mogu da zive malo dalje.
Western company's factories are also hurting chinese environment the most.🤦🏻♂️🤡
Companies will alway do the maximum of what the state allows them to do to make money. Doesn't matter where the company is from, the government is at fault.
Sure whatever you say if the corrupt decadent regime of Beijing allows that......
@@Luflandebrigade31 then serbia is at fault here.
@@Canguterio if they were so corrupt they would not hv been the fastest growing economy in just 40 yrs.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
U.S. was operating Serbia Steel plant until they couldn't manage it any longer. Only after China bought over, the steel plant became profitable again and 5000 Serbians got employed. Cowboys are sour grapes, very jealousy, now resorting to badmouthing about Serbia steel plant.
Journalist of DW speaks English with Albanian accent..
They can ask their Russian friends for help.
🙏
Wasn't nato bomb Serbia?
"Serbia has a substantial burden of cancer deaths, which might be a consequence of the depleted uranium bombs used by NATO in 1999 during air strikes" -The Lancet, Oncology
Mother feeding consequences??????
smh
To što ste gradili kuće uz fabriku na divlje je vaš problem. Ta fabrika je starija od vaših kuća, zato marš odatle.
We are should care about the environment we live in. However, suing a steel maker is not the solution or even fair, the root of the problem is at the steel consumers, you and me. Few people can afford using it without making it like American and German. Everyone should cut down the use of energy-consuming materials, making measurable contribution to this world and our next generation.
is Serbian goverment so weak!!! can they not take care of its own citizens... europe should go and check this factory... and if needs get the chinese company to pay for what they are doing, they waisted their own country what do you think this people will do to a country that is not theres?? incredible!!!!
Serbian government is pure organised criminal mafia, it is well known here in southeast Europe
Can they move to Kosovo?
It’s always like that😂china jus the spicy and the rules are new
Fantastic presentation DW. Serious journalism .I thought all Serbians were dead during NATO bombardment. So sweet your interest.
did German bombs that fell 3 times in one century hurt the people and destoryed buildings in Serbia? make video on that topic,im intrested to see....
Join the EU and Brussels will force the serbian government to regulate it.
Snow pigs
Chinese citizen life expectancy has now surpassed that of the US (official data 2022). And seeing the death rate of COVID, I would rather live in China during a pandemic than in the US for sure.
Chinese hands wrote this comment.
@@benj8242 No, I am Vietnamese. But does this matter? Almost all Vietnamese adore China's development, although many may not like the Chinese government for their aggressive actions in the East Sea.
You could, anytime