5 Albums to Get You Into MATHCORE

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  • @user-lk8mp7xx7d
    @user-lk8mp7xx7d Před 4 lety +211

    mathcore and math have 2 same things:
    1 math
    2 brutal

  • @Keezawea
    @Keezawea Před 6 lety +277

    i see Calculating Infinity in the thumbnail, i click

  • @dylanmcmahon4902
    @dylanmcmahon4902 Před 6 lety +323

    Jane Doe COMPLETELY changed my life. When I first heard it, it was the most abrasive, chaotic, and unenjoyable mess I had ever heard. Now, after having listened to it countless times, it's one of my all time favorite records. God, it's so dense, noisy, but it's beautifully constructed. Another amazing video as always Oliver!!!

    • @jakehahn2457
      @jakehahn2457 Před 6 lety +1

      Dylan McMahon 🙌

    • @playstationskate345
      @playstationskate345 Před 6 lety +2

      couldnt agree more, i listen to it almost everyday and ive never gotten tired of it, definitely my favorite album of all time

    • @zenoniachale11
      @zenoniachale11 Před 5 lety +1

      hey guys idk if this is mathcore but check out mage hand

    • @noilick
      @noilick Před 5 lety +1

      I can't relate more I still put Jane Doe in full blast in my home.

    • @isaackmojica8302
      @isaackmojica8302 Před 2 lety +1

      @@noilick i think It is the most replayable extreme metal/hardcore record ever made...'cause It has everything in between!!...It has the craziest tones,It has haunting tones Also beautiful melancholy when It reaches the final moments

  • @shiina_ueb
    @shiina_ueb Před 6 lety +308

    Calculating Infinity is one of the best albums ever

  • @FUCKINGDOUG
    @FUCKINGDOUG Před 6 lety +146

    thank you for including car bomb. their most recent album is perfection.

    • @Draggo.
      @Draggo. Před 6 lety +7

      Everything they've done is perfection.

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly Před 6 lety +3

      Oh snap, I didn't know they made a comeback. Amazing.

    • @dclarkmusic
      @dclarkmusic Před 6 lety +1

      I can’t get into them. It sounds like a bunch of disparate interesting ideas taped together. I guess I don’t get it, is what I’m saying.

    • @Psyfonify
      @Psyfonify Před 6 lety +3

      Also check out proto-Car Bomb band from the late 90's NYHC scene, Neck.
      Vocalist AND guitarist of Car Bomb. A lot of it sounds like a more melodic car bomb. Its in the era of nu metal though...theres some parts you'll want to skip, AND some parts your jaw will drop about.

    • @EaterOfBirds
      @EaterOfBirds Před 6 lety +1

      Centralia is the first mathcore piece I picked up, really hard to listen to until much later. Newest album is absolutely superb 👌

  • @codymorse2484
    @codymorse2484 Před 4 lety +52

    Bless your heart for crediting Botch. They don't get enough love. Frequency Ass Bandit is an essential mathcore/metalcore track.

    • @pedros7341
      @pedros7341 Před 3 lety +5

      Agreed. So sad they just took them off Spotify

    • @tpags7398
      @tpags7398 Před 2 lety

      @@pedros7341 they’re finally back on Spotify, and potentially back as a band.

    • @virtueisdead
      @virtueisdead Před rokem +1

      my Spotify profile has been called "the frequency ass bandit" for 3 years lol

    • @knewgem
      @knewgem Před 9 měsíci

      @@tpags7398 okumay spotted

  • @ATIRZI
    @ATIRZI Před 6 lety +62

    my list:
    Calculating Infinity (1999)
    Miss Machine (2004)
    Ire Works (2007)
    Option Paralysis (2010)
    One of Us Is the Killer (2013)
    Dissociation (2016)

    • @nickmoss2046
      @nickmoss2046 Před 6 lety +2

      Lmao. That's my list too.

    • @nathanstreilein758
      @nathanstreilein758 Před 5 lety +1

      All except One of Us. Weakest album they made

    • @nathanstreilein758
      @nathanstreilein758 Před 5 lety +3

      @Cooper Chew I totally disagree, but to each their own.

    • @DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik
      @DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik Před 4 lety

      I'd go for
      1. Ire Works
      2. Miss Machine
      3. Calculating Infinity
      4. Dissociation
      5. Option Paralysis

    • @nathantroisi
      @nathantroisi Před 4 lety

      Love Dillinger so much. You listen to an album the first time and it's just so discordant and unpredictable, but the more you listen the more you recognise and it all starts to take shape. It's like solving a puzzle almost

  • @wilddynamine8017
    @wilddynamine8017 Před 6 lety +61

    This channel seriously has the best quality content. Always looking forward to what your next video will be about

  • @youtuberobbedmeofmyname
    @youtuberobbedmeofmyname Před 6 lety +43

    Honestly dont really believe I just feel like searching "mathcore" one day having already known and listened to it for years and somehow find a video from someone under 70K subs with alot of thought put into it and the video was also posted a day earlier. This is truly fate. Life is incredible and music is eternal.

  • @GeorgeEndress
    @GeorgeEndress Před 6 lety +90

    Everyone should also check out Frontierer

  • @davidll4334
    @davidll4334 Před 4 lety +7

    Album: *Lost Isles*
    By: *Oceans Ate Alaska*
    Year: *2015*
    It's my favorite mathcore album i've ever heard

  • @jacksmith4460
    @jacksmith4460 Před 4 lety +31

    We Are the Romans is one of the best records ever made

    • @Anarchidi
      @Anarchidi Před 4 lety

      I love their more post-hardcore influenced mathcore sound, but the vocals kinda suck...
      And for that, for me that album is just unlistenable.

    • @lightningmonky7674
      @lightningmonky7674 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Anarchidi that's exactly how I feel about it, if it had harsher and all around better vocals I'd probably appreciate a lot more

    • @brianmeeth1512
      @brianmeeth1512 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Anarchidi vocals are completely fine you're nit picking

    • @chrisryan2107
      @chrisryan2107 Před 3 lety +2

      Jack Smith American Nervoso is better

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 Před rokem +1

      @@chrisryan2107 it's great but I prefer We Are the Romans

  • @fourtreemouths
    @fourtreemouths Před 6 lety +61

    Worse Than Alone by The Number Twelve Looks Like You is the pinnacle of mathcore, for me. Unparalleled riffs and grooves. Punishingly heavy in some parts, while pulling off smooth latin jazz grooves in others. Odd-time meters run aplenty, but, unlike far too many mathcore / mathrock groups (and even this band's earlier records), they don't sound forced / awkward. On the contrary, their rhythmic complexities feel sophisticated and organic. Even when they play in simpler time signatures, the syncopations, polyrhythms, polymeters and countless subtle nuances make for a dizzy-but-delightful rollercoaster ride of a musical experience.
    maybe it's not a good INTRO to mathcore, but once one has an appreciation/ear for aspects & tendencies of the ~genre, this is a masterful 45 minutes of music to enjoy & (attempt to) analyze / pick apart.
    On another note... I always found Converge to be pretty boring.

    • @mreed7947
      @mreed7947 Před 6 lety +1

      AGREED

    • @avantengarde
      @avantengarde Před 6 lety +1

      YESS !!
      i wish people talked more about this album i love it so much

    • @Ryan-fc1yt
      @Ryan-fc1yt Před 6 lety +8

      Nuclear.sad.nuclear was a better album in my opinion

    • @fourtreemouths
      @fourtreemouths Před 6 lety +1

      that's an interesting album. Put on your rosy Red Glasses is my favorite of the old TNTLLY

    • @ryndanriley5348
      @ryndanriley5348 Před 5 lety +4

      It might be because I like the weirdness, but I cant get enough of mongrel.

  • @jake2879
    @jake2879 Před 6 lety +14

    Looking fresh Oliver. Thank you so much for all the videos you’ve made and all the music you’ve gotten me into.

  • @sunnowo
    @sunnowo Před 6 lety +18

    Got an ad for brilliant.org and in the start they asked "are you interested in math?"

  • @superiormusic
    @superiormusic Před 6 lety +49

    5 albums to get you into avant-garde metal.

  • @oferosherovitz7710
    @oferosherovitz7710 Před 6 lety +81

    Dream pop 5 album essentials

    • @DANKKrish
      @DANKKrish Před 6 lety +33

      1) Botch - We Are The Romans (1999)
      2) The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (1999)
      3) Converge - Jane Doe (2001)
      4) Car_Bomb - Centralia (2007)
      5) The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza - Danza IIII: The Alpha - The Omega (2012)

    • @thomasr8185
      @thomasr8185 Před 6 lety +5

      Brutus Records shitty list lmao no cocteau twins lmao

    • @dimitricatoire5243
      @dimitricatoire5243 Před 6 lety +2

      OH YES !

    • @bigdickbrutus3363
      @bigdickbrutus3363 Před 6 lety +1

      Fair enough, I was basing it off what I like it. Might not be 'essentials' but still dope af

    • @Chnapik
      @Chnapik Před 6 lety +9

      1) Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas (also, Treasure)
      2) Beach House - Teen Dream
      3) Fishmans - Long Season
      4) Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
      5) The xx - xx

  • @MrTommyDUB00
    @MrTommyDUB00 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you so much for including number 5. This is a band that shouldn't be forgotten.

  • @VCCassidy
    @VCCassidy Před 6 lety +30

    The list feels incomplete without Coalesce.

    • @Chromaticdeth19XX
      @Chromaticdeth19XX Před 5 lety +1

      YES! I would put Bloodlet and the first Norma Jean album on this list as well. Even Harvey Milk's earlier material fits here as well.

    • @bentarpey8666
      @bentarpey8666 Před 3 lety

      Definitely

  • @nansutejo884
    @nansutejo884 Před 5 lety +4

    WE ARE THE ROMAAAANNNSSS

  • @Naytone
    @Naytone Před 5 lety +3

    Was REALLY not expecting Danza to show up in this vid but good work, they need more recognition.

  • @GreenDayDookieDemos
    @GreenDayDookieDemos Před 6 lety +22

    I've always considered Jane Doe to be both Metalcore and Mathcore, while most of Converge's other music tends to just lean towards Metalcore.

    • @SinnedNogara
      @SinnedNogara Před 6 lety +1

      I'd go further and say Converge is more on the hardcore side tbh

    • @fugue6943
      @fugue6943 Před 6 lety +14

      @@SinnedNogara most mathcore is on the hardcore side lol

    • @SinnedNogara
      @SinnedNogara Před 6 lety +1

      @@fugue6943 Converge isn't that mathy but thank's for acknowledging that it isn't metal.

    • @DAVEDEATH1000
      @DAVEDEATH1000 Před 5 lety +1

      Fuck I'd never day they were Metalcore. It's like doing them a diservice by calling them that!

    • @ABCDEF-ix1qf
      @ABCDEF-ix1qf Před 5 lety

      I've heard the album called post hardcore too.

  • @TheseBitchesWantNikes
    @TheseBitchesWantNikes Před 6 lety +11

    Nice to see Danza get some love!

  • @hanzo_often
    @hanzo_often Před 6 lety +177

    HOW ABOUT 5 ALBUMS TO GET INTO NICKRLBACK

    • @archivehans
      @archivehans Před 6 lety +34

      5 albums to listen to before i kill my self.

    • @coffdrop77
      @coffdrop77 Před 6 lety +2

      @Draevon May You dare insult Nickelback?!

    • @NTSTS0
      @NTSTS0 Před 6 lety +11

      LOOK AT THIS GRAPH

    • @syntheticdemon9998
      @syntheticdemon9998 Před 6 lety +4

      Just have a dude jizz in your ear and blast a confetti popper point blank range. Similar experience. 🤘😂

    • @HomebrewMelvin
      @HomebrewMelvin Před 5 lety

      Replace Converge with Cave In - Until Your Heart Stops (1999) I don’t see Converge as a mathcore band.

  • @DiamondLifer
    @DiamondLifer Před 5 lety +4

    Botch perfected it.

  • @calebmynard6105
    @calebmynard6105 Před 6 lety +2

    Wow, thank you so much for introducing me to Car Bomb! What a mind-blowing album!

  • @wesleysonic
    @wesleysonic Před 5 lety +5

    Rolo Tomassi are my personal favourite. Their first EP and the first 2 albums. Absolute ART!

  • @mechalpuco
    @mechalpuco Před 6 lety +80

    black metal essentials!

    • @youtuberobbedmeofmyname
      @youtuberobbedmeofmyname Před 6 lety +6

      trve kvlt kid:
      burzum
      burzum
      burzum
      burzum
      burzum

    • @Chnapik
      @Chnapik Před 6 lety +5

      1) Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss
      2) Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
      3) Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane
      4) Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
      5) Ulver - Bergtatt

    • @mechalpuco
      @mechalpuco Před 6 lety +5

      1. Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
      2. Ulver - Nattens Madrigal
      3. Akitsa - Sang Nordique
      4. Wolves in the Throne Room - Two Hunters
      5. Mgła - With Hearts Toward None

    • @SinnedNogara
      @SinnedNogara Před 6 lety +6

      Too vanilla I like when he gets into really weird shit.

    • @No1WillMakeItOutAlive
      @No1WillMakeItOutAlive Před 6 lety

      mechalpuco I love bergtatt but every time I try to listen to nattens madrigal I lose my hearing for 80 years due to all the treble frequencies

  • @staticsyndrome2011
    @staticsyndrome2011 Před 6 lety +10

    Car Bomb = best mathcore band that is still going

    • @yanndubois1885
      @yanndubois1885 Před 4 lety +1

      ikr.. im here cuz i am seachin fo bands like em but im kinda disapointed

  • @petrybasedgod
    @petrybasedgod Před 6 lety +3

    This video makes me so happy, i love mathcore. Not enough people talk about it. This is a great starter list!

  • @brock1120
    @brock1120 Před 6 lety +1

    yessss Botch. i have that album on cd and it always sounds fresh.

  • @mattglover560
    @mattglover560 Před 5 lety +1

    The Trees Are Dead and Dried Out by Sikth and Fall of Troy's debut are bloody classic too

  • @conk_kos
    @conk_kos Před 5 lety +5

    These albums are all incredible, I don’t think there’s a single better mathcore album than Our Puzzling Encounters Considered by Psyopus. Shit goes hard and fast and ive never heard anything like it

  • @jvictor3048
    @jvictor3048 Před 6 lety +7

    Really love Converge and DEP. Great list.

  • @panicxattack
    @panicxattack Před 6 lety +13

    I would say your missing Coalesce - Revolution in Just Listening and Breather Resist- Charmer.

  • @thatonedude9744
    @thatonedude9744 Před 6 lety +1

    The fact that Dillinger did an EP with Mike Fucking Patton means I can die happy

  • @frenchieprtrail3013
    @frenchieprtrail3013 Před 6 lety +3

    Awesome video, and you nailed the reasons for justifying putting 'Jane Doe' on the list, it's definitely their most abrasive and mathcore leaning album. I've never met a Converge fan that doesn't like Dillinger (or vice versa).
    If you were to add a 6 & 7 it has to be
    Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics
    Employed to Serve - Greyer Than You Remember

  • @JustNoobie34
    @JustNoobie34 Před 6 lety

    Updated the rym list!: rateyourmusic.com/list/expand/deep-cuts-5-albums-to-get-you-into-lists/1/

  • @theScienceOfFear2012
    @theScienceOfFear2012 Před 5 lety +17

    excellent selections there, but i feel like "The Fall Of Troy" missed out here.

    • @charles_moore9817
      @charles_moore9817 Před 4 lety +1

      Rockstar nailbomb and ex creations are amazing examples

  • @danb5664
    @danb5664 Před 6 lety +25

    the chariot need some love! also, these '5 albums to get into' series are brill but how do you feel about a sort of '5 not so obvious albums' series. these starter kit videos serve their purpose but personally the unknown obscure gems are the reason I digest and flock to music channels

    • @syntheticdemon9998
      @syntheticdemon9998 Před 6 lety +1

      Norma Jean and the chariot are as main stream as you could get in the early 2000s. Josh scogin was the man! Although I fell out of love after the second album chariot released. Felt it lacked the inspiration and depth of his previous albums. Not heard anything from him since. Kinda like Unearth. 😂
      Oh if you a big scogin fanboy check out luti-kriss! That's when he first came onto the metalcore/hardcore scene and that shit was amazing!!

    • @waveemann8857
      @waveemann8857 Před 5 lety +1

      The Chariot isn't really mathcore. It's chatoic and noisey but it's not written in the same deliberate way some of these records were. Adding feedback between riffs doesn't really make you mathcore.

    • @MrSpectralfire
      @MrSpectralfire Před 5 lety

      @@waveemann8857 it changes time signature but it's from the chaotic side rather than technical side. The Chariot is more Mathcore than any other genre in the outcome of their music but they don't follow the same path to reach that conclusion.

    • @xspartan346x
      @xspartan346x Před 5 lety +1

      i always just called The Chariot chaotic hardcore.

    • @codymorse2484
      @codymorse2484 Před 4 lety +1

      I will never forget when I first discovered The Chariot. I saw their music video for Daggers on tv. It was exactly the kind of music I wanted to hear, especially Josh's vocals.
      Long Live The Chariot.

  • @jaredoldfiel-thompson7681
    @jaredoldfiel-thompson7681 Před 6 lety +51

    A guide to the cure would be very nice

    • @playstationskate345
      @playstationskate345 Před 6 lety +2

      definitely

    • @BananaGeekLord
      @BananaGeekLord Před 5 lety +1

      Look up a channel called Lie Like Music. It's not necessarily a guide to them, the person who runs the channel admitted to not knowing enough about them, but he does have an interesting video about the fans. As someone who does really like them, it was an interesting video.

    • @Ruby-eq1qg
      @Ruby-eq1qg Před 5 lety +1

      i wasn't much a fan of that video, I wanted to hear more about the band itself

  • @somebodyoncetoldme9978
    @somebodyoncetoldme9978 Před 6 lety +7

    I don't know if im the only one that only likes D.E.P pre 2004 material

  • @albertsuchan9366
    @albertsuchan9366 Před 6 lety +8

    Great list but It seems a bit weird to me that you left out Norma Jean's Bless the martyr and kiss the child. I understand that there might be a simmilar issue as with Converge, because that album is definitely very breakdowny and metalcore oriented but still I think that the album is one of the mathcore staples and one of the best and most influential in the genre. Dissonant, crazy yet very melancholic and moody.

    • @altoid8450
      @altoid8450 Před 6 lety

      I was about to say the same thing!!!!! Awesome album. Takes me back.........

    • @G-Hobbs
      @G-Hobbs Před 5 lety

      Opened for Norma Jean, probably the last time I heard that name

  • @thelostaztectempleofmars4070

    YES ! I've been looking forward to this list ever since you announced it in "Deep Cuts Needs Your Help". :D

  • @Tunaboy45
    @Tunaboy45 Před 6 lety +1

    Most likely my favourite genre, glad you're drawing some attention to it and helping people get into it!

  • @damianwiecha8380
    @damianwiecha8380 Před 5 lety +4

    Fear Before the March of Flames LOVE IT !!!

  • @terminaldeity
    @terminaldeity Před 5 lety +2

    Weird. I was just listening to that Car Bomb album while I was driving home, wondering whether I would consider them mathcore or not. Then this video happened to pop up in my recommended videos. New to the channel. Have a like and subscribe.
    Also, though, I think Coalesce deserves a mention here, as they are often credited as the pioneers of mathcore. Functioning On Impatience is a near-perfect album.

  • @BrunoOfCanada
    @BrunoOfCanada Před 3 lety +2

    Five MORE albums to get you into mathcore:
    *Note; some of these aren't exactly "math" or don't fit in the 'mathcore' category much, but I'm sure you'll like them anyway
    1.The Sawtooth Grin - Cuddlemonster, these guys are kind of like the Piglet of mathcore. It was a shortlived mathcore group, but my god did their songs slap, if you like Minakakis era Dillinger Escape Plan, you'll love this album. It is absurd, with descontextual and scathologic song titles, the guitars actually have single coils instead of humbucking pickups, which gives them a 'twangy' sound, something that really doesn't fit in a subgenre like mathcore but at the same time, it's kind of a signature for this band.
    2.Discordance Axis - The Inalienable Dreamless, this is like Calculating Infinity except it's waaay more grindcore. Shrill, almost woman-like shrieks, gastrointestinal growls, insane blast beats, and entertaining guitar work. I said it's like Calculating Infinity because unlike previous releases from the band, sometimes the songs feel a bit odd, but not as fancy as maybe, We Are The Romans or Miss Machine. Again, if you like the stuff Dillinger did with Minakakis, this is like that except a notch up, at least in terms of sound.
    3.Converge - Petitioning The Empty Sky, I never got into Jane Doe too much, never listened to it too much but at the same time never turned it down, however I always got hooked with this album, it just seems to be more thrashy than Jane Doe, this is the album that earned Converge the reputation of being 'mathcore Slayer' and it makes sense, they are fucking fast and loud here, which I think is a good thing.
    4.Coalesce - 0:12 Revolution In Just Listening, This band is underrated man, they are really good and contemporary to all the other three bands I mentioned, except they're straight up mathcore, it has sections and odd time grooves instead of blast beats and high screams. I'm not sure if it could be considered a landmark in mathcore's history, but I think it's a good album.
    5.Ed Gein - It's a Shame, I'm actually listening to this right now! I was thinking about putting Botch's An Anthology Of Dead Ends (which you should promptly check out if you haven't, it's a short EP but it's so good I consider it an album) but this blows me away, it's awesome, that's what I can say by now, it has samples from interviews, movies, and the usual odd time signature distinctive of mathcore.

  • @snoophogg1177
    @snoophogg1177 Před 5 lety +5

    Danza’s first album is the greatest!

    • @genericname9875
      @genericname9875 Před 3 lety +1

      iTS ME SHANE FROM THE PAWN SHOP GIVE ME CALL AS SOON AS YOU HEAR THIS MESSAGE

  • @lightningmonky7674
    @lightningmonky7674 Před 4 lety +6

    See you next Tuesday, duckduckgoose, seeyouspacecowboy, daughters (first album), Ed gein, me and him call it us, destroyer destroyer, and heavy heavy low low (first ep), are awesome "modern" mathcore artists

  • @marsvoltian
    @marsvoltian Před 6 lety +10

    Now this is the good shit Oli
    :disbumps:

  • @Lew0604
    @Lew0604 Před 6 lety +5

    Hey Oli, I would recommend this year's album Annihilated by the band Sectioned if you haven't listened to it already, some absolutely mind bending stuff ala Car Bomb

    • @noodle71110
      @noodle71110 Před 6 lety

      YESS! sectioned-annhilated is amazing

  • @DAVEDEATH1000
    @DAVEDEATH1000 Před 5 lety +1

    Calculating Infinity blew my fucking mind when I heard it. Still a fucking beast now.

  • @Hummabubba
    @Hummabubba Před 6 lety +4

    Really like most of these picks and the video overall. Great in depth explanations. I personally would've had Mongrel by The Number Twelve Looks Like You on here. Also, do you think you'd be open to doing 5 Albums To Get You Into Screamo/Skramz? It's one of my favorite genres and I feel it's sometimes a bit overlooked.

  • @MrZabersuv
    @MrZabersuv Před 4 lety +3

    car bomb the only band still keeping mathcore alive

  • @luantrindade8325
    @luantrindade8325 Před 6 lety +19

    Aye! Tony Danza!

    • @pagerrager8880865
      @pagerrager8880865 Před 6 lety +3

      Went for the recommendation of Tony Danza straight away without watching the video. I am abso-fucking-lutely not disappointed.

    • @luantrindade8325
      @luantrindade8325 Před 6 lety +1

      Really cool stuff from those guys, no doubt.

    • @boredandagitated
      @boredandagitated Před 4 lety

      I was so into em in the MySpace days. Never expected them to pop up anymore lmao

    • @satalac
      @satalac Před 3 lety

      First heard of them in college where they were from. They blew me away. Hate they split up. Such a brutal band.

  • @youtuberobbedmeofmyname
    @youtuberobbedmeofmyname Před 6 lety +2

    Danza really isn't JUST Mathcore the more you think about it.
    Danza 1 is very Mathcore/Grindcore and I like to believe all the rest of the Danza discography is simply a different take on this one. Danza 1 is such a perfect album to make a fun example of Mathcore. A good three of it's tracks cock tease you into thinking you are going to hear a jumpy Guns and Roses rip off song but swiftly cuts to a beauty at it's -core (get it?). The sounds of Danza 1 and III are much closer than what you might think. If you think about it, you're wasting time not listening to Danza, but the main drive of both albums really comes down to being a technically catchy, jumpy, blastbeat experiment. This album really hits its stride right from the get-go and each song can stand alone as a single if necessary. Like I said, it's more or less the essence or foundation of Danza and what they consult when looking for inspiration. Humble beginnings.
    Danza II is much like Danza 1. It also sparks the idea of a mathcore album verging on a concept album complete with skits. The skits are pretty hilarious. Everyone's giving this mentally unstable south-western guy trouble for More or less this album, albeit short, attempts to create a sarcastic and joking take on Danza 1 while also upping tempo from the former. Jessie drives home lyrics making fun of or recalling events and peoples in his and Danza members' lives which, when read, much like Danza 1, sounds dramatic and exaggerated, but hearing it, it is clear that you're listening to some of the least dramatically delivered Danza there is.
    Danza III Joshua Travis joins and brings SUB-Djent tuning lower than a submarine and Deathcore-izes the fuck out of Danza by integrating br00tal 5-20 second breakdowns next to the obligatory blast beats. Bass and Drums get a bit jazzy in tracks like There's A Time And A Place For Everything or Passenger 57. Jessie also pushes the most aggressive anti-establishment-government-conspiracy-theory-anxiety-lyrics I've ever heard to make a solid project. Together most of the songs range from anxious, ragey, technical as shit, _groovy,_ or "look at me mom, I can play at 300 BPM" but never all at the same time. The result is a slowed down tempo Danza that is almost a classic in my book.
    Danza IIII You can really start to hear a metalcore influence and ALMOST hear/imagine melody in tracks like This Cut Was The Deepest, This is Forever, and Hold The Line. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it does get kinda maybe sorta cheesy after the umpteenth listen. Even though The Alpha The Omega is one of my all time favorite Danza tracks it's very swung in the direction of Deathcore and in my listening, not quite Mathcore. Especially since that track features Phil Bozeman of Whitechapel and Alex Terrible, the Deathcore influence is very prominent. If I was to say those tracks were the only one-offs I'd be wrong, but given the amount of tracks and the fact it's a Danza album means that anything coming out from these guys is going to be blessed with a Midas touch. Nothing here is worth skipping even though it's not in reality "full blown on-set mathfuckingcore".
    The entirety of TDTE is impossible to ignore when talking about Mathcore or a single TDTE album like Danza IIII. The best part of Danza is how much they change every single album and what type of direction they go for. I love every single Danza album with a passion. It's truly some of the best technically heavy music out there along with projects like WhenKnivesGoSkyward which the guitarist Joshua Travis was in along with the band the vocalist from Knives's band Frontierer which is basically a cross between Danza 3, Knives, and calculating infinity by Dillinger.

  • @krustn
    @krustn Před 6 lety +1

    Great video! I bit sad you didn´t mention American Nervoso though.

  • @BYRONSLAM09
    @BYRONSLAM09 Před 4 lety +4

    6:48 absolutely right xdd i showed to my best friend the album, he never heard nothing about something called "mathcore" (me neither) so when he listened he hated the voice, and he not understood the music, 1 year later he is fan of DEP and mathcore and math rock genres (he presented to me "Don caballero" what a project dude, brilliant)

  • @albertkotze8974
    @albertkotze8974 Před 6 lety +9

    Mate, seems like I have to check out that Tony Danze record! Enjoyed the video very much, your vocabulary never seizes to amaze me. Would you think about doing a 5 Albums to Get You Into SLUDGE METAL video? I would love to see your perspective on that genre, or if you have listened to any of it before!

    • @stavrostziounis4756
      @stavrostziounis4756 Před 6 lety

      Fantano has already done a similar video, so it would be a little unnecessary. Its better to cover another new genre

    • @albertkotze8974
      @albertkotze8974 Před 6 lety

      palm boy69 Hence why I asked for Oliver’s perspective! I disagreed with some of the points in Anthony’s video.

    • @somebodyoncetoldme9978
      @somebodyoncetoldme9978 Před 6 lety

      albert same most of the bands he did were post metal and not sludge

    • @SinnedNogara
      @SinnedNogara Před 6 lety

      @@somebodyoncetoldme9978 Post metal is just more atmospheric sludge metal.

    • @somebodyoncetoldme9978
      @somebodyoncetoldme9978 Před 6 lety

      @SinnedNogara that what I'm saying it's just to different to be for a sludge starter pack

  • @shekelofal-kakkad8505
    @shekelofal-kakkad8505 Před 3 lety +1

    7:03 That's How Tripods Work by Oktober Skyline is another mathcore album with a fucking relentlessly brutal intro.
    Awesome album, awesome band, worth checking out if you like mathcore.

  • @MichaelCrucifix
    @MichaelCrucifix Před 5 lety

    Thank you for this video! I was aware of all of these bands besides Car Bomb, however, I had never done a deep dive on most of them. After watching this video I spent my work shift listening to all 5 albums and it was absolutely crushing. Thank you!

  • @syntheticdemon9998
    @syntheticdemon9998 Před 6 lety +1

    So never heard of car bomb?!? Can't wait to give them a listen!! I agree with the rest of the lineup. Never cared Converge but can respect the role the be played in the metalcore scene. But hey quick question I always considered (The End "Elementary) and (The Human Abstract "Midheaven) mathcore... But now you have me doubting it. Where would you place them?!? I've looked for similar bands countless times to no avail. Quite problematic when you have a particular music itch that needs to be scratched.

  • @erinixtab3568
    @erinixtab3568 Před 6 lety +4

    ALSO Car Bomb wasnt influence by converge/dillinger/botch, they were A PART of the movement. they formed in 2000, not 2007

    • @hcctlive6475
      @hcctlive6475 Před 3 lety

      Correct, originally were formed from 2 bands. Neck and someone else

  • @mem3198
    @mem3198 Před 5 lety +5

    Tony Danza is one of the most underrated bands ever, if you guys want more Joshua Travis work listen to the newest Emmure album.

  • @32mybelle
    @32mybelle Před 6 lety

    I like your channel because it exposes me to new albums I may not have otherwise heard of. Thanks!

  • @lukecimment-sibscrobe5205
    @lukecimment-sibscrobe5205 Před 6 lety +17

    No love for Psyopus, eh?

    • @YouCanOnlyImagine
      @YouCanOnlyImagine Před 5 lety +2

      And or Ion Dissonance... Thank you for pointing out Psyopus though. Much love there.

  • @faaip0de0oaid
    @faaip0de0oaid Před 5 lety +2

    Car Bomb released 2 more albums, and they are perfection

  • @KidHellacious
    @KidHellacious Před 6 lety +1

    HELL YEAH DEEP CUTS WELL DONE

  • @blendernoob64
    @blendernoob64 Před 6 lety +1

    Jane Doe is one of the most intense metal albums I have ever heard in my life.
    I have never heard a scream so ear piercingly loud, yet emotional and pained. Never have I heard a simple drum kit become the instrument to which the soundtrack to the apocalypse would be kept in time with. Never have I heard a guitar so fast and technical, yet so effortlessly played. Never have I heard a bass guitar that rivals the guitar in terms of how intense it is. And never have I heard a record so pummeling, emotional, and at times, horrifying, yet so badass, fun, and at times very catchy.

  • @readymade83
    @readymade83 Před 9 měsíci

    I watched this video during the pandemic, within the last 3 years and then I started digging deeper into Mathcore. Well, November 17, 2023 I saw Botch, Converge and Cave In at Roadrunner in Boston and it was an incredible night for music. I'd see Botch again if given the chance and that was my third time seeing Converge and Cave In. Wish I got into this scene earlier on but it's great to discover now.

  • @The_Other_Ghost
    @The_Other_Ghost Před 4 lety +4

    Converge can "Get You into Mathcore", so it qualifies.
    Rock and Roll Killing Machine (2000, Revelation) by Drowningman

  • @billy2896
    @billy2896 Před rokem

    HOLY FUCK YOU TALKED ABOUT CENTRALIA????? It's literally my FAVORITE album, thank you SO MUCH. As soon as I heard Centralia, I was hooked.

  • @scotturwin1387
    @scotturwin1387 Před 6 lety +15

    A guide to Miles Davis please!

  • @benlevasseur9661
    @benlevasseur9661 Před 6 lety +8

    >deep cuts
    >1st, 3rd, and 4th highest rated mathcore albums on rym
    kidding, love you

    • @MacDaddyBlack546
      @MacDaddyBlack546 Před 6 lety +1

      Ben LeVasseur u right tho

    • @waveemann8857
      @waveemann8857 Před 5 lety +2

      well in a world where if someone said mathcore people would starting yelling periphery or some shit, it doesn't hurt to pull out the juggernauts of days past haha

    • @Sam-jy5tf
      @Sam-jy5tf Před 5 lety

      If you want some deeper cuts, check out Germany's War From A Harlots Mouth. While their discography is getting darker and less jazzy as time progressed due to a vocalist change, their debut LP Transmetropolitan is hard-hitting mathcore with insane drumming. I might prefer their sophomore release In Shoals for the pressing atmosphere, but Transmet and their demo EP are wayyyyy more demented and full of great rhythms and untriggered live drums.

  • @peterotto8779
    @peterotto8779 Před 6 lety +3

    Jane doe rules, I think Axe to Fall is ultimately my fav Converge. Ah but You Fail Me too. It's all so good

  • @Mike19910711
    @Mike19910711 Před 4 lety

    Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics
    Ion Dissonance - Cast the First Stone
    Noise Trail Immersion - Noise Trail Immersion
    Test Switch Isolator - Let's Dance
    Starring Janet Leigh - Spectrum
    Lye By Mistake - Fea Jur
    Septa - Destroyer
    Facing The Swarm Thought - Bridges
    Frontierer - Unloved
    Tears Before - Reversal
    The End - Elementary

  • @andrewmiroslawski1083
    @andrewmiroslawski1083 Před 6 lety

    Holy shit guy, I found the tony Danza tapdance extravaganza when I was like 11 years old and have never fucking forgotten about them, they had a massive impact upon me. crazy to see them actually being recognised, I thought they where suuuper obscure

  • @hunterkrueger7017
    @hunterkrueger7017 Před 6 lety +1

    Everyone knows how much I love Car Bomb.

  • @rossotron22
    @rossotron22 Před 3 lety

    Just found your channel. Its excellent.
    My old band opened for These Arms Are Snakes at the Southampton Joiners way back. Meeting Brian Cook is the most starstruck I've ever been.

  • @THEGMH1998
    @THEGMH1998 Před 6 lety +9

    Hey Oli, what's your favorite Dillinger album? Or second if calculating infinity in #1

    • @dgawd2k
      @dgawd2k Před 6 lety +17

      he put ire works in his 10 favourite records video so...

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 Před 3 lety +1

    Calculating infinity is such a brutal record.
    Also, Dave Knudsen is amazing, his work on Minus the bear is neat too.

  • @wesgrissom2287
    @wesgrissom2287 Před 5 lety

    Great video man.. such a wealth of information on some great bands and albums.. thank you

  • @noodle71110
    @noodle71110 Před 6 lety +1

    still waiting on 5 albums to get you into canterbury scene, lol. calculating infinity was THE album that got me into fast metal before that i only had heard doom stuff. ill never be able to replicate that feeling of having my mind being blown almost like a shotgun blast to my head the first time i heard the first couple tracks off of it. i also feel like ill never be able to replicate that feeling of pure unadulterated intensity that I felt at first

  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly Před 6 lety

    Your outro is so badass man. Also, nice as hell list, I gotta check out Botch asap.

  • @rman6572
    @rman6572 Před 3 lety

    Yo I just found your channel. Love how eloquent and passionately you describe music

  • @Mike19910711
    @Mike19910711 Před 4 lety

    The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene (feat. Mike Patton); Test Switch Isolator - Let's Dance; Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics; YOG - Half The Sky; Ion Dissonance - Solace; Starring Janet Leigh - Spectrum; Noise Trail Immersion - Noise Trail Immersion; Botch - An Anthology of Dead Ends

  • @ryndanriley5348
    @ryndanriley5348 Před 5 lety +1

    I would recommend number 12 looks like you over a couple of these, but this is a pretty good variety.

  • @powertrip6426
    @powertrip6426 Před 3 měsíci

    Great list but I have to add my personal favorite: The Locust and their album Plauge Soundscapes. Math core is beautiful ❤

  • @underscoreisnotvalid
    @underscoreisnotvalid Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing video man. The only thing I would argue is that I think Danza 3 is much more deserving than 4

  • @stephenmsf
    @stephenmsf Před 5 lety

    I discovered Mathcore through a friend of mine, who showed me Car Bomb probably about two months ago, and even though I didn't really know what i was listening to, I was absorbed with it. Thanks for assembling this list! Now I have a much more varied pallet for this style of music, and I've found that this is the culmination of what was started with the punk movement in the 70s. It challenges everything that I thought music needed, and sticks the landing

  • @jacksmith4460
    @jacksmith4460 Před 4 lety

    abe the cop and the mullet burden back in 98/99 blew my mind...been a fun ride

  • @nylanm2813
    @nylanm2813 Před 6 lety +13

    Coalesce

  • @alessandro_salani
    @alessandro_salani Před 6 lety +1

    great video and very nice picks. personally i would have put skullgrid by behold the arctopus in there

  • @michalreznicek8077
    @michalreznicek8077 Před 4 lety +2

    1. DEADGUY
    2. COALESCE
    3. BOTCH
    4. CONVERGE
    5. THE D.E.P.

  • @mchedrick3173
    @mchedrick3173 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video, I have always wanted to get into Mathcore and this is a great jumping off point. I think an awesome guide video would be a guide to The Mountain Goats. With such an expansive and varied back catalogue of music from the absurd mind John Darnielle, I think it would be an incredible watch.

  • @whateveryasaypal5022
    @whateveryasaypal5022 Před 4 lety

    i get why people say converge are more metalcore but they are definitely also mathcore, especially since they were one of the earliest hardcore bands to start putting in that more technical and dissonant sound into their music

  • @nekoill
    @nekoill Před 4 lety

    Who the hell would disagree with putting Converge on the mathcore bands list? Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan and Botch are mathcore's holy trinity.

  • @dopplereffeckt675
    @dopplereffeckt675 Před 6 lety +4

    I'd throw in Today is the Day's Temple of the Morning Star which is just as powerful as Jane Doe...

  • @enemyofthesun000
    @enemyofthesun000 Před 6 lety +2

    One of my favorite albums in the genre is Gaza's "I Don't Care Where I Go When I Die"...One of the most angry albums I've ever listened to.