Powering My House On EcoFlow Delta Pro And Solar Power!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
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I will run you through some testing I was performing on my EcoFlow Delta Pro with Dual Voltage Hub setup where I was trying to charge the batteries during the day with only solar power. This is in an attempt to use these 2 Delta Pro units as a feasible multi-day power backup system for my home.
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I like the delta pro except how the hub is connected and that it can’t auto start when battery levels go below the threshold and charged back up. What I mean is if you drained the battery overnight it would shut off and when the sun comes out the delta pro could charge back up to 100% but the delta pro doesn’t restart without human intervention. This is a must have so I may lean toward building a DIY system.
I'm not getting solar soon but this is good info to have for when I eventually get it.
Heck yeah, educating yourself in solar prior to purchase is a very good idea 👍
It would be cool to see those helien solar panels connected directly to a EG4 Hybrid Solar Mini-Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump. Something I am planning to do in my future home.
I think I am going to install one of those in the coming months on a detached (off-grid) garage i am powering up 👍👍
Ok. Well I just watched your video on wire gauge. So I’m looking at using 230-250 v panels. With 8.27A and 30.3V going out. So running in series I’d be using 2 (60.6V and 8.2A) and I could connect 2 of these in series with 120 V and 16+A, but only 920w leaving me short roughly 600watts from 1600. Right ? I’m a carpenter, and a medic, so if it’s out of wood , I can build you anything, literally anything. If it’s dying, Im pretty good at that too. Electrical is voodoo to me. I foresee myself waking up on my back on the concrete smoking a bit. 😂
Great video. Love this unit. My biggest issue is the lack of solar input. 1600 watts of solar for 10600 wh is terrible. For the unit itself is fine but adding the extra batteries is a bummer. 7 hours of charging is not enough time. & that's perfect sun no clouds, no storms, etc. We will hardly ever have perfect skies. This should of had at least 2400 watts of solar. & voltage should be higher. I really dislike over paneling and can't even use the full wattage because of the limits.
Yeah, if you were to do the EcoFlow power setup you would have to pick your panels wisely which is not what I did here. I want to setup an off-grid setup for a shed/office or weekend cabin using a similar setup to the EcoFlows. I like the idea of being able to easily pull the batteries out for use on other projects and job sites.
@everydaysolar-ps3xg I think you did good. It's a learning process. But ecoflow need to come out with the pro 2 & definitely address & fix things.
I agree not enough Solar input.
Something to consider. My house has 9000 watts of grid tied solar, If I was to connect my Ecoflow pro's to my panel with the interlock. If it tricked my Ephase inverters to turn on it could fry the Ecoflow. I don't think you can push 9000 watts into the Ecoflow inverters. That's why a critical load panel makes more sense. Oh and tell Ecoflow that the MC4 adaptor wire size is to small. I can feel mine getting warm at 1,100 watts 15 amps.
My question is, if you happen to have only 12 200w panels hooked up in series/parallel to support 2400w for the best method for 1 delta pro because they can in fact handle being over powered in terms of wattage, Then I add a 2nd delta pro to the be hooked up with a Y cable for the 2400w to be divided between the 2 delta pros.
I know there would be the balance issue but Logically it seems like it would still send 1200w to each delta pro.
In theory would this work?
4 Eco flow delta smart extra battery add great 👍
After a year with 2 Delta Pro + 2 extra batteries I have to say " Stay away from it "
1) after 2 months dual hube give up , they sent me new one and I return the damage one (5 stars)
2) last month I have error code 79 system shutdown : solar charge drop from 1600W max to 1280W , 12 volt out put dead , battery drain uneven.
I still have full 2 year warranty but EF offer only for repair not temporary replacement and all reply take days .
I just spend $7K for EG4 6KW 240volt inverter 15KW battery that is much cheaper than 2 Eco Pro + 2 extra battery ( +/- $11K )
Luc thanks so much for the feedback. I have been browsing on Signature Solar for an off-grid Solar setup so nice to get the feedback on EG4.
Thank you for sharing.
You bet, thanks for the support 🙌
You may want to review your energy consumption and figure out why your energy use is so high (minimum of 20 - 25kWh per day, during the winter with no AC load). Do you have a very large house and family or are you charging an electric car? Conservation is a lot cheaper than more panels and battery capacity. Have you replaced all incandescent bulbs with LED, replaced appliances as they fail with EnergyStar rated ones, and eliminated typical energy hogs (old fridge in the garage, etc.)? Without an electric car, our low days are more like 10kWh. Multizone mini split for heat / cooling, and all appliances are electric (water heater, dryer, range, etc.).
Nice, yeah I am sure there are a few efficiency gains to be had on my large appliances but I don't think $20 kWh is out of the ordinary for a 3000+ sq ft home in the winter running on a gas furnace.
@@everydaysolar My furnace fan alone draws 450 watts, winter use is around 7 to 9 hours a day in Utah winters. I have a 48v system with 2 5.1KW batteries, it will run my house, same size as yours, about two to three days in normal winter usage. Most outages are a few hours to a day here. Obviously if yesterday's dinner hit the fan we can go into hunker down mode. With clouds, inversions, and fog in winter plus short days and low sun angle. Over paneling is the only way to keep up. One of the advantages of 48V all in one system is much higher solar input. Plus much cheaper than the Bluetti or Ecoflow with extra batteries.
With all the money spent, you could install a grid tied solar system with battery backup and save on your energy bill monthly
Grid tied solar and battery backup which be just a bit higher.
Ty. So why buy 2 units when you could of bought one Delta pro 3. And save some money.
Do you use safety devices like dc surge protection?
You would have had a much higher surge capacity for powering your home's high inductance loads such as full sized refrigerators, large power tools, portable AC units. EV charging or large microwave ovens if you had purchased a hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter charger and a set of LFP batteries instead of these cheap, high frequency, transformerless solar generators. You would also have a far longer service life as well.
The reason for this is that all of these lightweight, high frequency inverters lack a very critical component. That critical component is an iron core, copper wound output transformer. Without an output transformer to act as a buffer to absorb electrical surges provided by the “Flywheel Effect” inherent in the physical amount of a transformer’s iron, these surges and damaging reverse voltage spikes must be handled directly by the inverter’s MOSFET transistors, essential shortening their life.
You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when these high frequency inverters are new, but every time you fire up one of those inductive loads, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in the inverters in these solar generators. Lightweight. high frequency inverters run much hotter than low frequency, transformer-based inverters which makes the low cost, off spec, Chinese made components such as capacitors, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in the cheap inverters that are used in these inverters, far more prone to early failure.
Another major consideration with these lightweight, high frequency, transformerless solar generators is safety. All it takes is for the AC output monitoring circuitry to fail and one of the MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground, and these inverters can dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire. With over 24 years in the inverter repair industry, I would never recommend a high frequency solar generator for use in a residential application. They don't last, and these non UL-1741 safety certified units can be dangerous.
Hi, i dont understand how some people can spend 2,5 kw in one hour, this dat up should be enough for one day, i mean here in holland it €0,46 just 1 kw, in my house we spend maybe 5 kw a day, 8 at most, Nice video by the way 👍
My Air Conditioning used 60 kWh today alone🫤
@@everydaysolar wow 🫣
@@manuelmetallica Yeah, unfortunately, that is not super uncommon in the US during the summer for most of our homes. I am looking forward to Tesla taking their heat pump technology from the cars and scaling up for a home HVAC system. That should help to reduce the energy to heat and cool homes.
I think solar generators. Should start making 240v split phase. With transfer switch and charger. Would make a huge difference in the solar industry. Not to mention more pv input. At least a minimum of 2000w, with a 150v voc. Lifepo4 51.2v
I think Blueddi does, without all the wires between units
Victron Multiplus is the only way to go
I have a question fellas, once a ecoflow is fully charged and then I put it away turned off how long can it stay charged in the closet. Also that areas in summer gets up to 90 degrees inside the home.
What happens if you use parallel? From experience, used 4 panels that are greater than the battery recommend. However the ecoflow delta adjusted accordingly. Using series, increased the voltage which can in return fry the xt socket.
Hello, can you send me a link for the solar panels? Or cut and paste the exact description of the panels?
My exact panels are Heliene: 120HC 360 (40mm) and I purchased them from the Alt E Store - lddy.no/1fpoy but looks like their stock of Heliene panels is gone.
You think this will work well with ecoflow delta pro?
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You can use the generator even when is charging?
Hi, Hope all is well? Unplugged Delta Pro & Smart extra battery last night to test how long they would run my stuff. After 16 hrs, they shut down. Upon plugging them back into wall outlet, they immediately started charging, but AC “Pass Thru” was inop. I’ve got all of the AC settings set to “Stay On”. Any idea what I’ve done wrong? I’d thought that this issue was fixed in a previous Firmware update? If I was out of town and we’d experienced an outage, none of my devices would have been powered afterwards. Thanx, Bert
Bluetti can be controlled via your smartphone.
Do you believe this works out better than the anker? On sale 5kw for 2600.
Not a bad price, I had good luck with EcoFlow. Right now I have both units (Delta Pros) at a few of my rental units as they have been out of power for 3 days now. The big question which I can not answer is the durability of EcoFlow, Anker, Bluetti, etc. over time.
Who do I contact for the consulting advice you mentioned for DIYers?
If you go through this form I setup, Julian and his team will reach out. amzn.to/3rV1T7R Julian is super knowledgable and can help you size a system and find a local installer.
what type of panels do you have in this setup?
Those are made by Heliene and are 360W. Kind of a 2nd tier panel provider but has worked well for this setup
Question, you stated that one of the Delta Pros were "OG". Could you explain, I don't want to assume. Thanks
😂 sorry that was my first Delta Pro so I just named it the "OG" which is short for Original Gangster.
Those solar panels are way big. Do they fold?
Nope, they are rigid. EcoFlow and a couple other companies make 400W foldable panels for temporary setups.
l've had two delta pros now one has a faulty screen and is 3 months old and I'm hold I only get a refurbished replacement not a new one
My second one smokes comes out the sides when you plug a 400 watts solar panel into it EcoFlow has repaired it and it still dose it so l've asked for a new one and l've been told they can not offer a new one or a refurbished one as I did not buy it from a registered seller ie them so just been warned we don't have warranty unless you get it from them so why are you selling them to other companies not a very good way to do business
Dang! That sucks and warranty should not be tied to the purchase location. Thanks for the feedback as that does help others as they try to make a purchase decision.
Interesting video. So how will you maximize the ecoflow’s input? And will you be connecting it to the roof or pergola?
I have 410W solar panels where the Voc (open circuit voltage) is right around 148V, so I will, in perfect conditions, get the full 1600W input. That's with panels that put out around 13 amps max (Imp).
If I connect two strings like that together, I can push the current up over 15 amps. With current, though, you can go over the rating and it will just use what it can. That way I'll get the full 1600W more of the time, and more power in general when solar intensity is less than ideal.
I will need to watch the Voc when it starts to get cooler, though, because solar panel voltage increases as temperature decreases. If it goes over 150V, I'll need to remove a panel out of each series so that I don't fry the Delta Pros.
@@michaeldezelar6264 sounds like a good plan, thank you. Is there not a device that can regulate the voltage to what you want? Instead of keeping an eye on it all the time.
@@aayotechnology I have been looking, but have found no such device... at least at these voltage levels.
Yeah, I will provide an example next week where we run 2 or 3 panels in series across 2 separate branches that are wired in parallel. This should get us close to the 1600 Watts on input power. I will get a 10 kW system professionally installed on my roof and then we are trying to figure out how to have a bit more capacity with the String Inverter or combiner box to then add another 3.6 kW on a DIY Pergola setup. These projects will be coming up in the next 2-3 months depending on the professional installer availability.
max 1600W by max 150 volt but the my after error code 79 it take only 1281W max. It's not reliable for that money you can better buy EG4 ( cheaper in upgrade )
Hello
What is the difference between OG delta pro and New delta pro so please explain a little coz i wanna buy one from 3rd person seller . Thanks
😁 that was just my naming convention for the 2 Delta Pros I have not associated to an actual feature of the model.
Are you going to put out the pergola solar video?
I just finished a new 14x20 pergola and was going to run power to it, but you got me thinking... 'maybe solar' :)
Got a bit delayed. Waiting for 11 kW to get professionally installed on the roof and then looking to tie in the additional roughly 4 kW from the pergola. The 11 kW is going to be a line side tap so need to see if I can bring my 4 kW through a separate Solar Edge inverter into my panel.
Are 2 of these batteries or perhaps 3 alone (without being paired with solar) a reasonable solution for up to 24 hours without power? I'm in the Midwest and we typically just have 1-2 power outages per year and our utility (ComEd) does a pretty reasonable job of restoring power within a few hours. Don't think I need to plan for multi-day outages but at least want to try and prepare for worst case of up to 24 hours w/o power.
Are you going to tie the battery into your home through a generator inlet plug or just run a few things from the 120 outlets on the front (refrigerator, wifi, phone/laptop charger, etc.?
@@everydaysolar I'm a total newb to all of this so may not answer correctly. But, I don't have a generator and would be looking to maybe use this device alone as best I could (2 or 3 if need be) to try and back up my home as much as I could. Just at the very early stages of trying to understand all of this.
I want to set this up with a transfer switch to power my lights and fridge full time
Take a look at the new Smart Panel 2. This can give some really cool power management features running individual circuits off of batteries.
@@everydaysolar it’s really cool with all the software integration but so expensive. I can get a transfer switch from Home Depot for so much less. The tradeoff is it isn’t automatic. I just got a 450 watt solar panel off marketplace for 120 bucks where ecoflows panels are 800 bucks
Do you have an estimate of this setup thinking of doing this
For this type of setup the cost is predominantly in the Ecoflow Delta Pros amzn.to/3Px42R2. Those will run between $6,500 - $7,000. For the panels you could even pickup some nice used panels and a little wiring/MC4 connectors to get everything tied together which would only add another $1,000 or so to the overall price.
To cut power consumption during an outage, flip the breakers or just don't use the big stiff. Electric clothes dryer and electric range, the stuff that Needs 240 volts.
@@HulaViking Propane is the savior then
Ngl im concerned with these products whenNO ONE ON THE INTERNET WILL FILM A 0-100% FULL SOLAR CHARGE WITHOUT BECOMING AN MIT ENGINEER!!!
I have been cycling these units over at a detached garage where they are my only energy source. So far so good. I will be installing a mini split soon and cranking up the energy use/ cycles.
Lol.. i charge mine up daily with solar and 10-100% daily. Im an insurance adjuster. If i'm more qualified than i realize then i appreciate the compliment
Hi I’m trying to find solar panels I can buy to use for my EcoFlow Delta 2. Any advice? Thank you!
Movies work with solar panels that are already installed on my house?
I want to ask if it is a 500w input can u use double 500w panel to get full capacity or the current will be too much?
The Delta Pro will limit the current just make sure the total voltage will never go over 150V or the solar input will shutdown to protect the electronics.
@@everydaysolar ok the only problem is the voltage? Hence u dont exceed the volts no problems. Thanks very very much this was very helpful. I bought a powerstation it came with a 500w panel. I can never get full charge only 250-290w solar input all the time. So I'm doubling my panel to make sure I stay withing the 50v range so I can enjoy my full 500w thanks
Course if I get something like that it would actually be the power to my house it wouldn't be a backup cuz that would actually be my grid cuz my grid is what I asked you make it into which is my solar panels cuz I don't have the grid have a gas generator propane generator anything like that I won't have that either cuz that just cost. So I'd go with a solar generator if I can get one or two or ten or fifteen depending on what I need independent when I need to have I know what pirate power requirement I need it's just hard to come up with that because I would like to run my house with power to run everything my house but that's quite a lot of power so I just add it all up together and find out there's not a generator out there to do it unless you get the ac900 and all its batteries and two of the generators to run independent from one another at least for the worst time of the year cuz it best time of year I can probably us an AC300 two of them just not for my big loads maybe one of the big loads and rest of the house with two of those generators anyways combined together to get that 240 and 120 volts. What they cost an arm and a leg for everything and then much more. So what I figure I'll just put them down a little bit small generators to run this room that room and the other and licks from besides which means for for smaller generators and probably more than that plus all the big loads. And all the other big and small loads and planning to add to my house to make it cheaper and free after the first cost.
What are you running to use 20-25 kWH if the A/C is not running?
That is usually outside of the AC summer loads.
This thing cost 8k plus can't run your house a full day or charge complete.. not going to produce half the kw you need.. for multiple days.. basically your throwing money away
EcoFlow is rolling out a new unit (Delta Pro Ultra) today which in conjuction with a Smart Panel 2 is much more compelling. Delta Pro Ultra - www.ecoflow.com/us/delta-pro-ultra?aff=650
Lol i just pick this up for 2k on sale
How many amps does the ecoflow battery store?
?????
This video looks more like. . . . . . "here is what 7~8K USD looks like sitting in your driveway. .. ill keep watching though . . .
😂
Solar input of only 15 amps and 150 volts is too small to be practical for real world dedicated loads like a window AC to simultaneously use and keep the batteries near topped off.
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I need a double voltage hub but no one could shipped to me in Thailand 🥲
Sounds like you need to schedule a little vacation in the US to pickup some parts 🙂