Stair Mitered Skirtboard Pro Techniques - Complete How To Guide - Part 1
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- In this video I walk you through how to cut a mitered stair skirtboard. This video will teach you how to tackle a skirtboard for a stair that will get either false tread end caps or hardwood treads. I show you how to get the angles you need to make precise angle cuts. We walk through how to mark out the risers and treads on the skirtboard for cutting, as well as how to cut the mitered skirtboard on your miter saw.
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Intro (0:00)
Prepping the Rough Framing for the End Caps (0:40)
Figuring the Skirtboard Rake Angles (3:03)
Marking the Skirtboard Location (3:42)
Getting Skirtboard Overall Length (4:44)
Marking the Skirtboard for Tread & Riser Cuts in Place (4:57)
Cutting the Skirtboard on Miter Saw (10:29)
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That's 2nd hand saw is called a pull saw. They are great! I enjoy your work and your videos. Nice work!
Very impressive I like your home made tool
The most underrated carpentry channel on CZcams
I appreciate that. The channel is only a year or so old so hopefully it grows and that changes.
That's for sure this guy is next level
Should be at the top.
I love your content man. As trim carpenters we are constantly learning new tricks of the trade. I appreciate your channel. I wanted to share a saying I came up with the other day that I thought would make a good t-shirt for trim carpenters. “NEVER TRUST A FRAMER” 🤣🤣🤣
Or a drywaller. LOL
Insider Carpentry you got that right!!! Haha
@@InsiderCarpentry Heh. The drywall comes out much cleaner and flatter if the framing is flat (was a professional hanger from the late '70s to the early '90s)
Finally, a professional job site carpenter making videos intended for professional carpenters. Thank you and i will visit your tool site.
For a young man you have serious skill and knowledge i do a lot of concrete stairs here in Ireland cladded in timber
If you stuck your torpedo level to the Dutch guy with 2 sided tape it might be helpful .
Love your videos
You younger guys are very lucky nowadays.!! I’ve been doing stairs for 40+ years taught with a hand tools.
You are a master craftsman and makes the craft proud.
It’s easy but many a carpenter has no idea how to figure the tread riser or the rake on a roof.
You should contact the Essential Craftsman in Oregon about doing a collaboration with them and doing the trim for their house. You do an amazing job!
Thank you brother! I’m a stairguy with 20+ years still doing it everyday. My ways might differ from yours a little but the outcomes are very similar. As you say, the digital level IS A MUST! Most of the CZcams vids covering stairwork are either super silly or super complicated. It’s hard to find practical, useful hardwood stair construction information. Keep this series coming if you can I’m really lovin it!
Thank you SO MUCH!
I am just rediscovering my love for this work. He is spot on and has very good ideas.
Brother thank you. I've been trimming for a very long time and I have never done stair caps before and watching your video like six times I finally did my first set preassembled and it turned out almost perfect so thank you
This is an excellent channel. I’m currently cutting skirts and needed to find a saw that could cut straight lines. Thanks for the tip!
As a trim carpenter with many years experience, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I’ve done many sets of stairs and have never tried that method for skirt boards. I will give it a try on the next set I do. You my friend definitely have skills, and must have had a great teacher. I try to learn something new as I go, and I just did. Great tools too by the way.
I'm not even a carpenter and I enjoy and appreciate these videos. I've learned a lot. Now I just need a project.
You are the best carpenter on CZcams channel, learn so much from you
Stairs are fun I’ve only done one set for carpet in the last 15 years... looks like you’ve got a good system, more tools the better!!
I've learned so much from this channel...Here's one for you. Drill holes on that Mitre Table and use BENCH DOGS to hold some long pieces.
I enjoy learning from you and as a carpenter myself I enjoy learning new ways to do things. I have a creative mind making jigs and a watching you I learn more. I take much pride in my work and some off my coworkers don't they depend on caulking and wood filler. I appreciate all your videos and techniques. It's frustrating sometimes when framers and drywall finishers make it harder to make a job look good and you have a customer or supervisor question I does it take so long.
I have a millwork shop and as we don’t do installations I always enjoy watching talented craftsmen plying their trade, especially young ones such as yourself. The video ended and I was about to move on until I noticed your logo. That explained why you are so talented. I subscribed. Keep up the good work and you will be rewarded.
Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement.
I really like your videos. Very informative even if the viewers have been in the industry for awhile. I haven’t seen a Dutchman jig before. That definitely looks like a great idea for my next stringer. One thing I might add to it is a couple of magnets so that you don’t have to hold on to the torpedo level. Free up a hand for keeping the jig in the right place while plumbing it up.
Would love to see more stair vids! Newell placement would be super helpful. Thanks for all the tips
Stay tuned. I'll show some newel placement at the end of this video series.
Follow you on the Gram. Now subscribed on the Tube! Great info & instructions. Very fortunate guys like yourself are willing to share the knowledge & craftsmanship! Keep up the awesome work & I'll keep learning!🔨📐Thanks
Spencer you are the best
You do nice work! And you present it in a nice clear, concise professional manner. You don’t have to rely on whizbang title sequences fancy music etc. Top-notch my friend.👍🏻
Thank you for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you so much for the misters on the skirt man I’m remodeling my stairs and there perfect God bless wish you wealth brother
Stumbled across your channel a couple months ago and I think I’ve watched all your videos now. Great content! I definitely picked up a couple pointers to increase my productivity and improve my work flow so thank you for that. Keep the content coming, I really enjoy it!
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey, fellow carpenter and stair guy here. I've been watching your videos and I have to say I'm impressed! Everyone does things a little bit different and just wanted to give you a few tips if you don't mind. The jig you have that's called the Dutchman jig or whatever, if you imbed some metal washers or something into the jig, you can throw your torpedo level on there and it can free up a hand since it will just magnetically fasten to the jig. I thought of that while watching I've never actually done what you are doing in this video but thought it might help. Also, reguarding your other stair videos, I would recommend cutting some thin poplar shims and not just rely on the glue since it takes so long for the glue to dry and we usually work on the stairs and have people going up and down all day. The shims give it a little more strength and depending on if you route the treads and risers into the skirtboards, you figure in that extra 1/8" or whatever it is. It's hard to think of everything as far as tips go but take care and keep up the great work!
I love the Dutchman pants jig, super awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic video and great topic!! Thank you very much!
I really enjoy watching your well explained knowledge. We appreciate you.
Bro I love watching your videos! You have some amazing tips & tricks Your humble attitude towards the trade is unheard of these days especially with how talented you are! Keep up the great work . I look forward to future videos from the master!
I really like the idea of pre assembling that little piece of base to connect to, I will definitely borrow that. If you'll take my recommendation, when cutting out the triangles I suggest cutting to the line with saw/skilly rather than overcutting and then finishing it up with a battery jigsaw, makes quick work of those corners.
I started much like you did. , I specialized in interior finish for probably 15 years , during that time I started doing stairs and handrails in the houses that I was trimming, I had done a bunch of curved stairs and was getting pretty good at them. So in 1997 I decided to specialize in stairways and have been doing them ever since. I felt like being really good at trim gave me an upper hand at my new career
That's awesome. I'd love to do more stair specialty work. I've also considered going in that direction more.
Always laugh at the "don't like" thumbs down people...what? like you can just do this in your sleep? I just found you from watching Finish Carpentry TV and I truly enjoy your videos. Many MANY good ideas and very helpful.
Dude fantastic video. We do a lot of stair treads and hardwood treads but never really had to mess with skirts as they were always in place.
This video really helped me out in more ways than one props for the upload keep up the good work
Thanks for the video!
That is very similar to how I cut my skirt boards out as well!
Excellent Job
Master class. Loving it.
Well, I going to tell you what I THINK, even before I see yr video.
I think that yr work will look wonderful and amazing!!
Why?
Because
I know what you doing!!
👍👍👍👍
I do some carpentry & I know when guys know what they doing!!! Great 👍 & congratulations!!!
Learned a few more things today. Keep up the good work
Hi Spencer. I thoroughly enjoy watching and learning your informative videos. I have learned so much so far, I just wish that I was towards the beginning of my career and not the other end. Even so I am always willing to learn to do better work. I have always been a fussy tradesman and firmly believe and am willing to learn better ways of doing things. Thankyou very Much.
Regards
Jamie Gibson. Australia
Stairs have their ups and downs....lol
I do alot of stairs and this video gave me some great tips, thanks brother.
Your workflow is really nice.
Thanks for posting this info!
I know this is an older video, but I recommend the Ridgid 12" Miter Saw...cuts up to 70 degree cuts. I love mine!
interesting subject. Thanks for putting this series together.
Awesome technique thank you so much for sharing
Finally something good to watch on here
Very nice can’t wait on next step.👍And when this is over like to see full threads and risers
Love the stuff you're putting out there bud. I browse A LOT of CZcams construction/carpentry channels and yours is legit. Keep it coming! GC/Remodeler in Fort Collins CO
True craftsmanship.
Awesome...always learn something from you. Thanks!
Thank you for the tips!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Lovely piece of work. You make it look so easy thank you. Keep Safe
Great tips!
This goes without saying, but pointing out the importance of the Dutchman's Pants jig needing to be perfectly flat, without any sort of bowing in the wood whatsoever... Great video...
Fascinating 👌👌🏴
great video, very informative! thanks
You are amazing I know that I'm going to learn a lot of you
Another great video, thank you!
I use the fein multi master instead of the Japanese saw love that fein tool😂
Looking forward to your next video.
Fantastic video!
Nice vid bro 👍 trim work like this is rare in nz only time ya get to do it is on renovations thanks for the tips😁
Great Video!
Nice work!!!
I do like that level brother!! Figuring out that angle can be a hassle sometimes.
amazing, good work!
Thank you!
excellent! !
Another great job on the video Spencer ! My question is this : do the tread caps you are using here have a veneer to match the nosing material ? And for those who don't know why the treads and risers are not level and plumb (assuming they have been cut properly) is due to the stringers being cut from framing material with a relatively high moisture content. When they shrink the point formed by the tread and riser moves toward the opposite side of the stringer. You are a an excellent teacher !
Thanks! The nosing material is solid wood and the plywood is a veneered plywood to match the nosing wood species typically.
Keep it up 👍!
good job
You are amazing!!
I do Flooring for my living. Do some stairs. Super helpful content. Thank you. My question is what would be your method of prepping the stairs for doing the whole case from top to bottom to put on say lvp or wood floor with nosings? Also love the track saw that tool would increase workflow 5x. Once again thanks for your pride in your trade.
A little thing i do differently i dont use the riser jig any more i just plumb the riser and mark the high point from the back. On the face i draw a plumb line top of run and one at the bottom . that sets your saw for the riser cut. Once you know that you can cut from the back side and no need to run your cut long.. No faffing about trying to plumb the riser jig..
Another great vid.
Interesting, in my case though my riser material is 1/2". So if I'm following correctly that would push my cut forward 1/4" if I cut from the back because the skirt is 3/4" thick. That is one of the reasons I use the 1/2" jig to match. Am I following or missing something?
Insider Carpentry I do mine much like jimmydeicide ! I scribe the riser and use a level to mark for the plum cut, which gives me the exact angle to reference all my rise cuts with . I use a riser jig to Mark the run on the other side and level that up. So now I have my true run and rise. I cut all my mitred risers from the back side since it just makes a better cut from there , I flip the skirt and cut my run cuts on that side , I use those same angles on my miter saw for plum cuts on my rails and can even use the off cuts as pitch blocks for marking my fittings. In all the stairways that I have done I have never once used false treads. But in your case you would have to move the rise cuts back 1/4” on your skirt boards to match up with the 1/2” risers that you are using.
@@duaynenaugle4186 It would definitely make it a lot simpler if my riser thickness was the same thickness as my skirt.
@@InsiderCarpentry No. if your materials are 2 different thicknesses then the the jig to match riser size would be easier .
Sorry didnt realize your skirt and risers where different sizes.
Keep up the great content.
Damn fine video. Thanks!
Thank you. Very nice work I like your logo ❤🕊🙏
Did my first stair case trends/risers. However I totally forgot to turn my saw back to zero like you said 😡. The project still turned great thanks to you! My question, can I use the Collins stair gauge while the old trends are still in place? Don’t want to remove them just to screw them back in as I do the staining process to the trends. Thanks again.
Very good job 👌👍👌
Awesome work, your videos are excellent! Do you have a video on how to cut/install that skirt board on the other side of the stairs; the one against the wall (the method with a gap off of the wall so the skirt board can just slide in)?
R you also building the house’s or just doing wood work? You are a best carpenter in 21 century 👍
I'm just the trim subcontractor.
Insider Carpentry i don’t know you but I love watching your videos thanks for your good work you do, I build house and last house I did trimmed my self by watching your videos I did ok but I love working with wood. Good bless you.👏🏻🍷
i gave you a thumbs up simply for "move forward on the next step"
Hi there, im new to your channel and im so glad i found it.
I live in N.Ireland and have been a carpenter for over 30 years now and im always looking to learn. We do most things here differently because of different constuction methods and materials but a carpenter is a carpenter.
I love the fact that you are looking for ways to improve your techniques and efficiency, something i strive to do on every job.
Have you bought the outfeed table for your table saw? if not could you do a review on it as it would be of interest to me.
Many thanks and im looking forward to the next video.
Jimmy Joiner
Dozuki or Kataba saw is I think what you have for finishing when you don't want overcut
When you plumb your “Dutch pants” does it matter whether the rough riser is proud on the bottom vs the top? Similar to how you leveled for the horizontal; do you measure off the furthest out mark?
Yes, you have to make sure you are marking from the furthest point out. If you don't, when you go to install the preassembled skirt it won't slide back into place the way it is supposed to. You always want to error on the side of cutting a little to far forward, this also gives room for adhesive.
Any videos on doing the full staircase in hardwood coming? ( Not just caps?)
I do those for open treads all the time mitered at 45 degrees for risers
Good
hopefully i live long enough through the coronavirus to see all the parts to this
True legend
yes I see so much...Love your channel, personally with the help I'm seeing in Chicago....Really have me thinking? Truly I see you have a much better road map. Question I have is with this mindset? what tips or advise can help me my first year out!! A playbook on the work that focus or can be done by a one man company
Put in the extra hours to get ahead.
Buy the tools that will most help you increase your profit potential.
Get all you tools and equipment paid for.
Establish an emergency fund with 3-6 months working capital.
Stay busy, put in the hours, you don't want to be dead in the water.
At the same time, learn to say NO. Say not to the jobs that don't pay and aren't getting you to where you want to go. This requires balance and discernment.
Specialize in a niche. You can make the most money when you can do what others can't.
Those are a few tips off the top of my head.
Insider Carpentry yes that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking? Had 15 teen top tools buy Festool and have 12 so far with a Sawstop. Specializing in a niche perfect, any books to help along the way
Man I learned so much and I’ve done several sets of stairs the man that showed me was awesome but old school
Viva El mariachi
Where did you learn all of this great work? I really enjoy your videos.
Internet. :)
Insider Carpentry no way. Seriously?
@@jasonargentieri8954 it is learned by doing...seriously. Good "basics training" comes with doing and practice. Then you just add to it. Patience is the biggest problem to conquer for a lot of guys. I grew up working for a trim carpenter who had forgotten more than I feel I'll ever learn.
lucky you get it from the factory well done
Great video. I do trim too among other trade work. Next project will be that commercial metal wire rope stair case. Enjoyed your video on that. Question. Did you purchase the kit or did the General buy it?
GC
Excellent technique, that looked like a forest blade
FS Tool SM6300
Ok amigo
Spencer why do you use the Dutchman pants jig? Why not just scribe directly from the stringer to the skirt?