LUXURY VAN TOUR | Airstream Interstate 24GT Class B Motorhome

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  • čas přidán 16. 01. 2023
  • The Airstream Interstate 24GT is a luxury Class B motorhome that combines sleek design and modern amenities. Built on a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis, this Touring Coach is perfect for both long road trips and weekend getaways. Now available at our dealership Colonial Airstream in Millstone Township, NJ. MSRP $251,232.00. Tourpresented by Patrick Botticelli.
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Komentáře • 233

  • @1927su
    @1927su Před rokem +44

    Thank you for being upfront about the pricing &options. There is almost NOTHING more annoying than having to go on a scattered fishing expedition to FINALLY get a price! Thanks again!

  • @RVsnobrdr
    @RVsnobrdr Před rokem +23

    Patrick's the best in the business! Took time at any show I met him at to answer questions. I didn't wind up by from him, but I did buy my Interstate because of him! Colonial is a great outfit!

  • @expressivepets1
    @expressivepets1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Finally, all electric!!!! Solar!!!!! Diesel!!!!! I love Patrick 's walk through; no one does it better.
    Drawers, drawers!!!! And more drawers...this is beautiful. Perfection.

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you. Patrick sells them too, please call him if you are interested in buying. 1-800-265-9019

  • @mustang1191
    @mustang1191 Před rokem +30

    Appreciate you being transparent with the pricing. Nice review too.

  • @ms.foxxired9635
    @ms.foxxired9635 Před rokem +4

    Patrick, I have been following you now for years I must say, this is my overall favorite van and it is so beautiful you really did a wonderful job showing it and you look super

  • @paulhoude1661
    @paulhoude1661 Před rokem +4

    Patrick ! By far the best RV presenter on the NET !

  • @conniebonn-no9mp
    @conniebonn-no9mp Před rokem +4

    I’ve spent 80 minutes watching two of your videos. Great job! Very informative.

  • @free2roam492
    @free2roam492 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video. You did a wonderful job on the walk through and walk-around. Really gave us a lot to think about and the explanation of the various features was very helpful.

  • @thomaswayneward
    @thomaswayneward Před 7 měsíci +1

    That is the most awesome van I have ever seen. The design is perfect.

  • @CarolStJohn-ev9ry
    @CarolStJohn-ev9ry Před rokem +4

    I'm impressed by this beautiful van, only thing I'd change would be an expandable table because there's seating for 5 and that little table would barely hold a dinner setting for 2.

  • @jimicrack29
    @jimicrack29 Před rokem +1

    thank you mr aron so nice to learn about the intersate model

  • @banditkitty2743
    @banditkitty2743 Před 7 měsíci

    Nice to see Patrick working with dealers; great vehicle...I will take a closer look soon.

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 7 měsíci

      Please do! He sells them too, give him a call 1-800-265-9019

  • @mgkelly3389
    @mgkelly3389 Před rokem

    I love it, especially the doorstops!

  • @joecutro7318
    @joecutro7318 Před rokem +2

    Patrick, so impressed that you were able to do this start to finish in what looked like one-take. Watching your CZcams channel it is not surprising as you are so knowledgeable, but this coach had so many features! 👍 If I had $250K laying around, this would be a great choice, but alas, I don't. 😅😢🙄 Thanks.

  • @changeintime77
    @changeintime77 Před rokem

    I like there design everything it’s corner it’s amazing

  • @gerrystein7278
    @gerrystein7278 Před rokem +7

    Patrick love your video’s and learn something new every time I watch one. I noticed that the 2023 24GT is now equipped with a door stop to prevent the rear doors from slamming shut in the wind when opened, great idea! I have a 2022 GT and left a message for your part’s department to see if I can order that part but have not hear back from them. Would you know what that part number is by chance? Thanks again you are a great asset to Airstream and Colonial RV!

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      Its not in the parts catalog yet. I am sure they sent a request in to Airstream to check availability. Parts 1-800-265-9019

    • @kyungkang2910
      @kyungkang2910 Před rokem

      @@colonialairstream Could you guys let me know if this part is available to order? Thanks for the help.

    • @user-bd8wz4ij6q
      @user-bd8wz4ij6q Před rokem

      ㄷㅊㄷ6ㄷ

  • @alal4041
    @alal4041 Před rokem +1

    Great job Patrick

  • @LostinMayberry
    @LostinMayberry Před 2 měsíci

    I passed one of these today on 1-96 in Michigan. Very striking!

  • @jamesfarrington9030
    @jamesfarrington9030 Před rokem

    Nice rig. Love your work.

  • @mudlynmahabir5565
    @mudlynmahabir5565 Před rokem

    I love this Very Nice For A Big Family

  • @johneufrazio8349
    @johneufrazio8349 Před rokem +1

    NICE JOB !!!

  • @gldi8hr
    @gldi8hr Před rokem

    Awesome rig 🤯

  • @joehammond2586
    @joehammond2586 Před 10 měsíci +1

    They thought of EVERYTHING.

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 10 měsíci

      They really did Joe.

    • @s2seltaeb
      @s2seltaeb Před měsícem

      That’s exactly what I was going to say. They thought of everything.

  • @waterislife.9204
    @waterislife.9204 Před rokem +1

    Awesome salesman you are buddy.

  • @blackcatrose4257
    @blackcatrose4257 Před rokem +2

    I like this over leisure one all on lithium battery so smart. Wish that was a microwave / convection oven. I like to bake.

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the feedback and the suggestion.

    • @lilyandrose8557
      @lilyandrose8557 Před 10 měsíci

      You can always bring along an air fryer for baking your bread or whatever.

  • @HarryFish7
    @HarryFish7 Před rokem

    Love it!

  • @aVanandAlex
    @aVanandAlex Před rokem +5

    Nice video ! would love something like this instead of my tiny little van! haha

  • @1614nevada
    @1614nevada Před rokem

    Patrick, thanks for an awesome video! Do you know if the mascerator pump/ dump valve has a bypass so when camping at an RV park the gray water can drain without worrying about overfilling the gray tank?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      It is not designed with a by-pass however, it can be a modification you can do aftermarket if you feel necessary.

  • @craigsouder9334
    @craigsouder9334 Před 9 měsíci

    What seperates this airstream from the competition is that italian plywood/laminate combo. Those italians can work magic with plywood, no question. 😂

  • @jintanapornnithid5460

    Perfect i like it

  • @livingworkingoutsidebox
    @livingworkingoutsidebox Před 5 měsíci

    Hey Now I know how you gained such great on camera skills. 👍💪
    Which one did you start first?
    Congratulations on killing it as a content creator. Hopefully sales are going well for you. 👍

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 5 měsíci

      We love making these videos for the entire world! you can always count on Colonial to be your one-stop shop for all things Airstream & RVs.

  • @highlatitude64.84
    @highlatitude64.84 Před rokem +1

    Looks beautiful, and the big battery is great. But only 24 gallons of fuel, which is shared with making your heat and power? This really needs another 20+ gallons of fuel capacity.

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      The Sprinter van is the 24.5 gallon fuel tank standard with not factory options for larger. There are aftermarket tanks available that are larger but they are not Mercedes Approved.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Před rokem +1

    When do the new sprinter chassis arrive? The ones using the much more modern four-cylinder diesel and the far superior, and lighter, four-wheel-drive system?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      Kevin, they will be available for the 2024 Airstream model year later this summer.

  • @carefulpilgrim
    @carefulpilgrim Před 4 měsíci

    So many good points, love the drawer-style microwave and the push-button reclining bed and ottomans! HOWEVER why oh why would yall put the exhaust fan button in the ceiling? Did you forget that some people are short?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 4 měsíci

      The exhaust fan in the galley can be controlled by touchscreen at a lower point. The bathroom ceiling is 6'1" and a 4'6" person or taller with average arm length can reach up to push the button on.

  • @carloswelch1832
    @carloswelch1832 Před rokem +3

    Would love to see a hybrid chassis from Mercedes or even an all electric one ;)

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      That would be cool!

    • @AL-pk4ij
      @AL-pk4ij Před rokem

      Owned one and hated the ride. Tried to add air ride nothing worked. Worst banging ride ever experienced.

  • @thescottgoldexperience
    @thescottgoldexperience Před rokem +2

    Awesome review! Enjoyed seeing the van and all the features. 25:28 having to choose between 4-wheel drive and seatbelts is a little bizarre, however. 😲

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      Its all based on available payload.

    • @juniper617
      @juniper617 Před rokem +1

      It looks like it only sleeps two; I don’t know why you’d need 7 seatbelts anyway, unless you’re also using it as a station wagon.

    • @thescottgoldexperience
      @thescottgoldexperience Před rokem

      @@juniper617 yeah, it’s just kind of strange

    • @karimaa2257
      @karimaa2257 Před 11 měsíci

      @@colonialairstreamwhat’s the difference between 4-wheel drive and 2-wheel drive?

    • @SettieSpaghetti
      @SettieSpaghetti Před 10 měsíci

      @@karimaa2257to have 4wd the vehicle will be much heavier

  • @grifone2800
    @grifone2800 Před rokem

    I predict the next evolutionary step, in regards to the airstream’s bathroom, will be retractable toilet & sink basin. This would open up the space, enabling a relaxing, obstacle-free shower. Tbh, I don’t know why this hasn’t been realised already-the technology must exist

  • @ArchieTalbot-hp2xg
    @ArchieTalbot-hp2xg Před rokem +2

    Where can I get the yellow plastic back door magnet blocks you displayed in the video?

  • @PaulEEish
    @PaulEEish Před rokem +1

    Patrick, what is that kitchenette counter top made of? Thanks and great video.

  • @randysouza4163
    @randysouza4163 Před 9 měsíci

    I would like to see a Pottery Barn version of this model.

  • @superyachtchef
    @superyachtchef Před rokem +5

    ✳️ Patrick this would make an epic liveaboard and with all the extras I'm sure it would hold its resale value. #banging 👋 🇳🇴

  • @fishernate
    @fishernate Před rokem +2

    I wish they offered this with the interstate X exterior

  • @georgecreel8542
    @georgecreel8542 Před 4 měsíci

    Here you go

  • @m.montherabdeen7052
    @m.montherabdeen7052 Před rokem

    thank u

  • @joelcrow
    @joelcrow Před 8 měsíci

    There are a lot of really nice and well appointed Class A motorhomes for $250,000. Credit to Airstream they totally nailed the design with good space, nice materials and just what you want in this model. But that price is a far too unobtainable level for most people, especially when they find a full size house on wheels with a washer/dryer and king size bed for half the price!

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 8 měsíci

      If you are looking for a bus you have different wants a needs than a campervan buyer.

  • @MrKevinLeis
    @MrKevinLeis Před 11 měsíci

    No way! That is a crazy price! Airstream or not that’s crazt

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 11 měsíci

      Airstreams are known for their premium quality and longevity, which are factors that influence their pricing. But take a look at pre-owned and travel trailers and you might find an RV suitable for your price range.

    • @christyshultz6443
      @christyshultz6443 Před 11 měsíci

      It's also Mercedes so you can factor that is priced.

    • @christyshultz6443
      @christyshultz6443 Před 11 měsíci

      ​​@@colonialairstreamove your videos oh, you put so much love and detail into every single video at the pleasure to watch them❤.

  • @nicknoguera7801
    @nicknoguera7801 Před rokem +1

    Never in my life have I seen a microwave drawer👀

  • @lesklower7281
    @lesklower7281 Před rokem +1

    I have only one thing l didn't like the size of the table as for the rest of the van 10 out of 10 attention to detail magnificent

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      Appreciate the feedback

    • @lesklower7281
      @lesklower7281 Před rokem

      @@colonialairstream l know you will get a lot of complates about tge prices but l live in Australia and will never buy a caravan or camper van but l must admit l do enjoy looking at reviews if anything Air Stream build ir make and until now l never knew that Air Stream built camper vans

  • @user-xg3ff2de2h
    @user-xg3ff2de2h Před 4 měsíci

    Where in the bedroom can you set down/store/plug in to use a CPAP machine?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Many customers that own these put the CPAP below the bed under the two ottomans.

  • @madtiger7955
    @madtiger7955 Před rokem +1

    Does Airstream dealer do mechanical maintenance on the vans? Or do i have to take it to Mercedes dealer to get oil change, etc.??

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +2

      Airstream dealerships can do some maintenance items on the Mercedes Chassis.

  • @craigfarmer5245
    @craigfarmer5245 Před rokem

    Does the generator still come with the E1 package or is it all electric?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +2

      A LP generator is not available or necessary with the E1 package.

  • @todd9324
    @todd9324 Před 4 měsíci

    I have been looking at the vans, does anyone find them too small to enjoy? They sure seem like they would be nice for an extended weekend adventure

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 4 měsíci

      Patrick has a 19' Airstream van now for 5 years and it is just the right size for him to travel in.

  • @Lolaandcassidyadventures

    Seems so small inside. I’ll keep my Leisure travel van.:)

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      That is because it is smaller and more compact than your LTV which is a wide body Class C (Class B+) and you have a slide out.

  • @neilvsalmon6105
    @neilvsalmon6105 Před rokem +48

    Over a quarter million dollars ?? Unless you are a millionaire , mostly out of the range of most people .

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +8

      Thanks for checking this one out.

    • @TheAmazingHuman
      @TheAmazingHuman Před rokem +12

      This could be a family investment. Folks could take turns using it like a timeshare. Especially if you have kids and love road trips but HATE truckers stops and sketchy bathrooms. I would definitely buy this with a group contract. It's so worth it.

    • @bradolsen8629
      @bradolsen8629 Před rokem +1

      If it bothers you that much, what are you learning to fly like a Bird?

    • @ericspaans4008
      @ericspaans4008 Před rokem +1

      You can pay over five years. Problem solved.

    • @hughmann1908
      @hughmann1908 Před rokem +5

      I mean it’s beautiful, but $100k over priced.

  • @Sassyglbeauty
    @Sassyglbeauty Před rokem

    One complaint, wish there were power blinds on the front windows!

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      We also wish there can be items like this however there are air bags put in by Mercedes that cannot be tampered with and any new obstructions added to the cab area can be dangerous. The removable cab window blinds are the safest ways and comply with Mercedes guidelines.

  • @shoesuite
    @shoesuite Před 17 dny

    The only thing id change frear liftback instead of double doors, get rid of unnecesary sliding door and get rid of of side7 rear windows idon't need anyone looking in

  • @andgorhey
    @andgorhey Před rokem

    When is Airstream switching to 2023 MB Sprinter (w/ 2.0l turbo and 9 speed tranny)?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      For the 2024 model year sometime this Summer.

    • @andgorhey
      @andgorhey Před rokem

      @@colonialairstream Exciting news. I wonder if the Atlas will switch to the 4500 series chassis (to improve payload). Or, possibly, the lighter weight of the 3500 cutaways will allow Airstream to offer the Atlas with the new AWD 3500 cutaway chassis….

  • @randyrandolph9709
    @randyrandolph9709 Před 3 měsíci

    Can you leave the screen closed and close the sliding door?

  • @petertravis4048
    @petertravis4048 Před rokem +3

    Always a great salesman should be writing a book on success. You seem to be out of breath. Hoping you are well.

  • @eatingandfamilychannelandhusba

    Do you have the RV for the disabled and that can fit 6

  • @TCDShow
    @TCDShow Před 7 měsíci

    Great content, yet cab should always be separate from the living area. Not a fan of the AC unit of the roof.. if I bought this I would have to tear it apart.. maybe it would be okay for other people, yet this is not an off grid rig

  • @Ludwig98000NL
    @Ludwig98000NL Před rokem

    Hello, this is motorhome is interesting. But, is it possible to get one, in Europe, please. Thank you

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      This is made for the North America market. There are similar Sprinter camper vans available in your Country.

  • @randyrandolph9709
    @randyrandolph9709 Před 3 měsíci

    How long can you run the air conditioner?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 3 měsíci +1

      If equipped with the LP generator, 30-36 hours on a 85 degree day. If with the E1 Lithium package 6-10 hours in the same conditions.

  • @maxdemps7443
    @maxdemps7443 Před 6 měsíci

    Do it have battery back up ???😮

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 5 měsíci

      There are two battery systems in this van. One for the chassis and one for the coach.

  • @eddiezorro1
    @eddiezorro1 Před 10 měsíci

    $251,232.00 "Scheisse!!!! But I Love it.

  • @JimmyTheGreek2000
    @JimmyTheGreek2000 Před rokem +7

    $ 250,000 ??? I could get a house for that much cash !

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +4

      If that is what you want instead.

    • @350ZEASZE
      @350ZEASZE Před rokem +3

      And your house wouldn’t depreciate by 75k the minute you move in!!

    • @kammyjames1359
      @kammyjames1359 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Currently, Grech has the Terreno model, same exact features except it's 22' vs 24' foot and comes with a generator vs ion. It's listed for $150,000.

    • @christyshultz6443
      @christyshultz6443 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I don't know man I live in Tennessee and some of the more cheaper houses arwell ridiculous. It doesn't always cut it these days, gone are the days when you could get a house for like $170,000. It's getting more and more expensive and then you know you added something like an acre lot or something like that and it's ungodly man. I think it came down to it that even a trailer was more about land then it was about what was on it. Want to get your standard Airstream which is a little bit cheaper and then put it on said land still going to cost you. Turn around and build a house there later give me. Or use that Airstream to travel. At least you have options.

    • @christyshultz6443
      @christyshultz6443 Před 11 měsíci

      Besides the last time I said something like quarter million are you kidding was in the 90s.. And a friend of my ex had just built house for that much in Crossville Tennessee. And it was a good-sized house but it wasn't a mansion or anything.. But it was a pretty house and yes it was brick.
      Edit price was wrong. And our friend Ron was crazy for building a house that was a quarter of a million dollars in those days again like mid-90s.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Před rokem

    Is that a convection microwave

  • @rightright6582
    @rightright6582 Před rokem

    how many amp hour of battery? 12, 24 or 48v system

  • @hampersincldt3373
    @hampersincldt3373 Před rokem

    I don't know how the Chinese get washing machines, 32 inch tvs, bigger bathrooms with the same space. The sleeping areas are not as big in one space, but it has sleeping how two to three in different spaces. How to they do it.

  • @Paul-hw4dg
    @Paul-hw4dg Před rokem +2

    250k and 1 burner?

  • @Bossladylj
    @Bossladylj Před rokem

    Did I miss something . . . No bed formation shown?

  • @santaalicea101
    @santaalicea101 Před rokem

    Is this unit in the United State?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      Yes, Colonial Airstream is located in Millstone Township New Jersey USA.

  • @seinundzeiten
    @seinundzeiten Před 9 měsíci

    it seems an Airstream/tundra set up is 1/2 the price

  • @seancook2529
    @seancook2529 Před rokem

    How tall is he I'm 6'3 will I be able to stand upright in it

  • @pahanin2480
    @pahanin2480 Před 15 dny

    188 hp?

  • @Yreikian_Escapes
    @Yreikian_Escapes Před 3 měsíci

    Idky he gives me Adam Sandler vibes 😂

  • @lawrencegiles1078
    @lawrencegiles1078 Před rokem

    Still using laminates in a 250,000 dollar unit?

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem

      Yes, laminates are more durable for the RV lifestyle. Hardwoods and veneers do not hold up well in this environment.

  • @akram4li
    @akram4li Před rokem +1

    only if it is gas

  • @a_humdinger
    @a_humdinger Před 11 měsíci

    Doesn’t have armrests on both sides. That would annoy me greatly

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 11 měsíci

      We appreciate your feedback! Comfort is indeed crucial when traveling, and we'll make sure to pass your comment about the armrests onto our design team. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Safe travels!

  • @wingyu7696
    @wingyu7696 Před rokem +1

    The price of a house 🏡🏡🏡Got to have a net worth of 250 million in order to pay cash for a quarter million liability 😘😘😘

  • @AngelNScott-zf4oz
    @AngelNScott-zf4oz Před rokem

    Can I afford one of these on a six figure income?

  • @jacyxia9305
    @jacyxia9305 Před rokem

    Since when camping became unaffordable 😔

  • @chocolatewheelchair
    @chocolatewheelchair Před rokem +1

    1/4 million dollars,........ for real???????

  • @boomhunsaker1321
    @boomhunsaker1321 Před rokem

    12,000 ah or 1200? 12,000 would run a class A

  • @Novaheart1998
    @Novaheart1998 Před rokem

    At this price whos buying? Sultans ? 😅

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      We have a very divers customer base form all different backgrounds and career paths.

  • @jamieo8307
    @jamieo8307 Před rokem

    😎 Promo'SM

  • @Rock-Bottem1982
    @Rock-Bottem1982 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Okay, great, its super nice, but unless you literally want to throw away $150,000 in 4 years time due to depreciation, dont buy things like this new

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 4 měsíci

      No Airstream will depreciate that much. But thank you for watching!

  • @bernieleclerc9100
    @bernieleclerc9100 Před rokem

    I’ll stick to The motels . A lot cheaper

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      Hotel motel, money spent is gone. This has a excellent resale value.

  • @primeminister66
    @primeminister66 Před 5 měsíci

    Storage

  • @yayediallo6232
    @yayediallo6232 Před 11 měsíci

    Me gustaria estar hay para que ella mi chiquindolita viaje por todo lugar con su negro por que no y las personas que ella Elijah para mi❤ por que no

  • @laosfoodeater6973
    @laosfoodeater6973 Před 9 měsíci

    No thank you! lol

  • @duanerondorf8948
    @duanerondorf8948 Před rokem

    Yeah after I heard the price I turned the video off.$$$$$$

  • @rodrigoparducho2953
    @rodrigoparducho2953 Před rokem

    Not good for family rv

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před rokem +1

      This is designed to sleep 2-3 people and is good for transporting the family for many other occasions and adventures.

  • @lex4422
    @lex4422 Před 10 měsíci

    251k and no dedicated bedroom. Bad design

  • @EvoCenter
    @EvoCenter Před rokem

    Maybe you need to do more cardio 🙈

  • @junzhang2087
    @junzhang2087 Před 8 měsíci

    Too expensive

  • @ronaldbertin9455
    @ronaldbertin9455 Před 5 měsíci

    Base model PRICE????

    • @colonialairstream
      @colonialairstream  Před 5 měsíci

      The new 2024's have a base MSRP of $256262.00 USD and its on the new Sprinter all wheel drive chassis.

  • @leonnoblesnobles6675
    @leonnoblesnobles6675 Před rokem +1

    Does it come in 4x4?