Growth Vs Value Investing

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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    Value and Growth Investing are two of the most popular investing strategies around, but what do they entail, and how do they compare? We answer these questions and more in today's video.
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Komentáře • 434

  • @ThePlainBagel
    @ThePlainBagel  Před 3 lety +64

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    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  Před 3 lety +8

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  • @pablocano5544
    @pablocano5544 Před 3 lety +448

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    • @ccc3
      @ccc3 Před 3 lety +16

      Do you mean to say that this is a... value channel?

    • @styxhisdicksahammerdyxdyxd8467
      @styxhisdicksahammerdyxdyxd8467 Před 3 lety

      Maybe some of us want to see his portfolio though.

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      @CompaRichy Před 2 lety

      Don’t stress bro

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      @passionforchrist4337 Před 2 lety

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    • @nZym1
      @nZym1 Před rokem +2

      @@ccc3 definitely value channel, at the current subcriber count id say its a strong subcribe because it is very undervalued right now

  • @f3wbs
    @f3wbs Před 3 lety +780

    When he said “You couldn’t find great value if you were in the grocery aisle at a Walmart,” I felt that.

    • @myaparker
      @myaparker Před 3 lety +1

      same

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      @user-mj2xi2wx1e Před 3 lety +1

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      @lovekluvet7431 Před 3 lety

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      @yamazakiinoue9990 Před 3 lety

      Please how does this work?
      Which broker?
      Which platform?

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      @camilajosse7220 Před 3 lety

      Forex and bitcoin trading is the best thing that ever happened to me last year 2019,I see bigger profits this year 2020 too.

  • @TheJackCain-84
    @TheJackCain-84 Před měsícem +503

    These are very valuable info for anybody who wants to get rich. Unfortunately, most people who will watch this video will not really be able to apply the principles. We may not want to admit, but as Warren Buffett once said, investing is like any other profession-- it requires a certain level of expertise. No surprise that some people are losing a lot of money in the bear market, while others are making hundreds of thousands in profit. I just don't know how they do it. I have about $109k now to put in the market.

    • @LindaHaire
      @LindaHaire Před měsícem +3

      Understanding personal finances and investing will most likely lead to greater financial independence. By being knowledgeable about money and investing, individuals can make informed decisions about how to save, spend, and invest their money. I know someone who made over $350k in this recession influenced market, but to the best of my knowledge, it was through a financial advisor.

    • @JacquelinePerrira
      @JacquelinePerrira Před měsícem +2

      This is precisely why I like having a portfolio coach guide my day-to-day market decisions: with their extensive knowledge of going long and short at the same time, using risk for its asymmetrical upside and laying it off as a hedge against the inevitable downward turns, their skillset makes it nearly impossible for them to underperform. I've been utilizing a portfolio coach for more than two years, and I've made over $800,000.

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      @kevinmarten Před měsícem +2

      Impressive can you share more info?

    • @JacquelinePerrira
      @JacquelinePerrira Před měsícem +2

      Carol Vivian Constable is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment..

    • @kevinmarten
      @kevinmarten Před měsícem +1

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  • @Mesozoic_mammal
    @Mesozoic_mammal Před 3 lety +80

    Growth investing often becomes hype investing

    • @WeLoveValue
      @WeLoveValue Před 3 lety +8

      very true. especially lately

    • @shreyvaghela3963
      @shreyvaghela3963 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah it's called tesla, bitcoin etc

    • @mr.c6674
      @mr.c6674 Před 2 lety

      @@shreyvaghela3963, I'm not invested in either of these, but I think including Tesla is not correct. Tesla are much more than a vehicle EV maker, thus their stick isn't hype. If it were only the cars, you would have a *somewhat* valide point.

    • @szilagyimiklos4757
      @szilagyimiklos4757 Před 2 lety +6

      @@mr.c6674 lmao😂😂

    • @TheMavenDojo
      @TheMavenDojo Před 2 lety +1

      People have been hyping up NIO, NIO is the new Tesla.

  • @simeondutoit6545
    @simeondutoit6545 Před 3 lety +131

    I heard Buffet say at a Q&A that he did not consider the value/growth distinction worthwhile: "pick the stock that'll generate the most money for you over time". Something like that

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Před 2 lety +2

      There is this video in youtube of Warren Buffet going through top 10 mistakes investors make or similar where he says the same. Brilliant stuff.
      I always thought the guy to be more of a meme and a buffoon (like our own Björn Wahlroos here in Finland), but I was completely wrong. Really smart and wise professional to listen to.

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 Před 2 lety +1

      yeah i think the market today has redwfined growth stocks as high speculative stocks which are usually tech stocks. It doesnt make sense to distinguish value and growth as any value investor would want a company to grow

    • @luisoncpp
      @luisoncpp Před 2 lety +1

      The reason behind Warren Buffet opinion is that growth is one of the components of a valuation, so a company that is growing is also more valuable and it doesn't make sense to think in growth as something opposite to value.

    • @ask230
      @ask230 Před rokem +3

      Correct. These are not opposing categories. "Growth investors" are still value investors if they are valuing companies and looking for those that are priced under the value.

    • @Aubatron
      @Aubatron Před 8 měsíci +2

      Pretty much. There’s actually different sub categories of value investing, the two most popular are deep value, and growth value. Deep value is the cigarette butt strategy that Warren learned from Benjamin Graham. Where you pick up a soggy disgusting cigarette butt off the ground for one free puff. You essentially buy shitty companies that’s equity is worth way more than their entire market cap, that also pays a stable dividend. It’s like getting one free puff from that disgusting cigarette butt.
      The most popular is growth value and is also the most common one Warren and Charlie use now. This is where you calculate all future cash flow, and discount it normally at long term bond rates. You’re looking for a business that generates cash that far exceeds the market cap. It doesn’t actually matter if it is a growth business, it’s all about future cash flow. Even if they use that extra cash to pay out a dividend or do share buyback instead of reinvesting the money into the business to grow it, it still puts that money in your pocket.

  • @TheIcelandicInvestor
    @TheIcelandicInvestor Před 3 lety +619

    If you buy good companies at a fair price, you're basically getting value and growth together. So why choose one, when you can choose both?

    • @GTOYMPodcast
      @GTOYMPodcast Před 3 lety +112

      People like to think of strategies like they're sports teams. They need to understand that you can mix and balance strategies to fit your goals.

    • @ramtins9258
      @ramtins9258 Před 3 lety +3

      I was gonna thinking the same thing 🤔🤔

    • @TheIcelandicInvestor
      @TheIcelandicInvestor Před 3 lety +1

      @@GTOYMPodcast True!

    • @robertmccully2792
      @robertmccully2792 Před 3 lety +9

      Name one stock at fair value.?

    • @GTOYMPodcast
      @GTOYMPodcast Před 3 lety +5

      @@robertmccully2792 best one I can think of is $ALLY. FV is $26, currently trading at 25.70 at time of comment.

  • @SavvySide964
    @SavvySide964 Před 2 lety +8

    This is pure GOLD !! Thank you so much for explaining a complex issue in such a simple way , Much respect

  • @aitorlopete3913
    @aitorlopete3913 Před 3 lety +227

    Hahahahahaha that intro though..., you made my day hahahahh

  • @blessed7fold
    @blessed7fold Před rokem +3

    This is the greatest explanation I have ever heard about this topic. Richard Coffin did an outstanding job with this presentation. It could not have been improved upon in my opinion.

  • @Martin-yp3kk
    @Martin-yp3kk Před 3 lety +27

    That intro was gold! Please make more roasts at the start of your intro.

  • @daniellouis-jean8451
    @daniellouis-jean8451 Před 3 lety +7

    Great video. Very informative as usual. Intro is hilarious. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheRobJob
    @TheRobJob Před 3 lety +15

    Just commenting for the algorithm. Also dope intro man. Laughed my ass off.

  • @sadspamspam
    @sadspamspam Před 3 lety +21

    Great content as always! I would love to learn about the other types ways to measure valuations beyond P/E ratios. I often hear of them but not about them. Forward P/E ratios would be interesting too.

  • @NovaScotiaKevin
    @NovaScotiaKevin Před 3 lety +3

    Solid video, as always. Thanks for just telling us the deets so we can think for ourselves versus telling us what we should think.

  • @susanl8478
    @susanl8478 Před 3 lety +13

    This is so valuable ... I am an old person who has five years to make money. If you have twenty years ... still valuable but you have some time to make a few mistakes.

  • @abdullahalmosalami2373
    @abdullahalmosalami2373 Před 3 lety +5

    This was awesome! I have been pretty shaky on the exact ideas of value vs growth investing but this made lots of things click together :D Thanks!

  • @TheNORegretShow
    @TheNORegretShow Před 3 lety +6

    That Plain Bagel ain't so plain anymore. You toasted that intro with those X-Men style effects. Very good video I got scared half way through lol. Good to know you mentioned hybrid investing because thats my route and has paid off. I was waiting for Drake to hop on that beat you had up there in Canada.

  • @heybubbah
    @heybubbah Před 3 lety

    You really do have the best intros in the game, plz never stop

  • @cekirdekci32
    @cekirdekci32 Před 2 lety

    this is my favorite channel while studying for my CFA =)

  • @sohams3313
    @sohams3313 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent mannn
    Keep uploading the good stuff learning lot from u.

  • @pongop
    @pongop Před 2 lety +1

    This is a great and super helpful overview! Thank you!

  • @alenpaul2523
    @alenpaul2523 Před 3 lety +1

    Blessing this channel with views and subscribers .

  • @shaheerkhan3262
    @shaheerkhan3262 Před 3 lety +1

    The intro is one of the best I’ve ever seen

  • @Limitedonathios
    @Limitedonathios Před 3 lety +12

    I just want more roast reels from you. You're really good and got those mannerisms down 100% Like a 500k subscriber celebration

  • @janshateblog5204
    @janshateblog5204 Před 3 lety +3

    I love your explanations of the financial market. Please keep it up. I learnt so much, because from your videos, ;0. Greetings from germany.

  • @ozdoits
    @ozdoits Před 3 lety +3

    🌟 EXCELLENT video presentation. Thank you!🌟

  • @bradical333
    @bradical333 Před 2 lety

    Best investment/finance channel out there

  • @joecurran2811
    @joecurran2811 Před 3 lety +4

    Your intros are genuinely funny bro.

  • @jay1232000
    @jay1232000 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of the world. Liked and subscribed.

  • @ryansedore33
    @ryansedore33 Před 3 lety +3

    That opening was hilarious 😂 well done man

  • @anthonyz9197
    @anthonyz9197 Před 3 lety +3

    Good explanation of the P/E ratio!

  • @seannguyen1142
    @seannguyen1142 Před 3 lety +2

    Great style of this video, mate. Keep it up 💪💪

  • @jkalinful
    @jkalinful Před 2 měsíci +1

    Amazing explanation! Thank you👏

  • @thefinancetrigger6013
    @thefinancetrigger6013 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video, very informative! Congrats & Thanks!

  • @businessguide6219
    @businessguide6219 Před 3 lety

    This video is worth watching! More of this, please!

  • @wisdom-for-life
    @wisdom-for-life Před 3 lety

    I love plain bagels.. lol.. New sub. Thanks for the great content. Will have to binge watch this weekend

  • @brenton9492
    @brenton9492 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! YOu should do a similar video comparing the Dividend and Growth approach. I hear that you should "Just focus on growth stocks then sell them later down the road and buy Dividend Stocks," but then you'll miss out on the snowball effect if you don't start early enough. So I feel it'd help a lot of people to decide.

  • @Aubatron
    @Aubatron Před rokem +3

    I think there are multiple different types of value investing. The most successful one is generally value growth investing, where you focus on both growth and value. What better way to buy a growth stock than to be able to evaluate it like a value investor, then compare the valuation to industry competitors of similar sizes. If you're a small cap growth value investor, there's some crazy opportunities. Growth is important, but so it the underlying value of that growth business. You don't want to over pay. To me, the most successful value investing is buying great companies at a fair price, not buying bad companies at a great price.

  • @nobosnobo
    @nobosnobo Před 3 lety

    This channel is a breath of fresh air

  • @brolysujay
    @brolysujay Před 3 lety +2

    LOL that anime glass thing was awesome, sub for that man.

  • @blakefisher5148
    @blakefisher5148 Před 3 lety +1

    Subbed for the intro liked for the content!!!!

  • @paulbyron1359
    @paulbyron1359 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for a great channel. I've learned a lot from you. Thank you.
    I've noticed a number of shares have tanked after unbundling, acquiring acquisitions or selling off part of their business.
    Eg here in South Africa after RMH unbundled First Rand Bank to focus on its property interests, they unbundled their shareholders and share price too - even though it's quite a solid company.
    What should one watch as a shareholder when companies do major moves such as this? A vid on this would be great. Tnx.

  • @bradleysmith292
    @bradleysmith292 Před 3 lety +28

    Big value stocks will tend to also have dividends versus growth. INTC is a good example of value right now with the result still out

  • @dan-arc
    @dan-arc Před 3 lety +6

    This needs to be updated. Growth Vs Value Vs Meme Investing :D

  • @yiweizhang2485
    @yiweizhang2485 Před 3 lety

    Underrated channel!

  • @mavv0589
    @mavv0589 Před 3 lety

    you need to do more of these comedy pieces, you kinda nail it.

  • @beatrizcgv
    @beatrizcgv Před 3 lety

    Great video! Thanks

  • @King-ql4tg
    @King-ql4tg Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as usual Richard 👍👍👍👍. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
    But I'm curious, how did you come up with the name "The Plain Bagel"?

  • @jasonrivera6035
    @jasonrivera6035 Před 2 lety

    Great content! Thanks!

  • @dees377
    @dees377 Před 3 lety

    This was great! Can you do a video on deep value and value traps?

  • @acholouscognoscente
    @acholouscognoscente Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another great video

  • @ResidentInvestor-wo1rw
    @ResidentInvestor-wo1rw Před měsícem +1

    great video!

  • @chaosofdarkness92x
    @chaosofdarkness92x Před 3 lety +1

    Stopped at 0:45 just to tell you i fuckin' love your Vids. What a funny Video! And thanks for the other Video you did where you explainded share dilution. :)

  • @brandontjendera6679
    @brandontjendera6679 Před 3 lety

    please continue with this type of intro !!!

  • @DragonZombie2000
    @DragonZombie2000 Před 2 lety

    You're funny! I'm glad you didn't ridicule either group and pick a side. A lot of other channels like to look down on growth stocks as immature children or value stocks as 'dinosaurs'. At the end of the day, all of us want better returns regardless of how we get there

  • @BarkingCookieNCream
    @BarkingCookieNCream Před 3 lety +2

    I love how you explain the topic so well and easy to understand. It is much appreciated.
    Thank you!
    I'm recommending your channel to my family and friends for sure.

  • @PierceJordan
    @PierceJordan Před 3 lety +29

    That intro had me dead 😂

  • @Corndog4382
    @Corndog4382 Před 3 lety +3

    As usual the “best” is to do both

  • @craftercube5193
    @craftercube5193 Před 3 lety +2

    hi bro can u make a video on how to read a real income statement and balance sheet? your explanations about cash flow statement was great

  • @tediaxmonetize
    @tediaxmonetize Před 3 lety +5

    Loved the intro genius !

  • @nitemare1525
    @nitemare1525 Před 2 lety

    Great break down

  • @Kharmatos13
    @Kharmatos13 Před 2 lety +1

    Do both. Have your dividend stocks paying out those tasty divi's while waiting for your growth stocks to grow. example ideal portfolio out of the bottom of the 2020 crash would be DIA, SPY, CVX, ABBV, O, SPG, AAPL, TSLA, ETSY, PINS. You got 2 index funds, 3 dividend aristocrats (CVX, ABBV, O) a risky dividend in SPG, best of breed company AAPL that pays a divi but is not an aristocrat. The hottest growth stock in Tesla and Etsy and Pins got like a 700% gain.

  • @oreheltneg
    @oreheltneg Před 3 lety +3

    guess I haven't visited this channel for awhile, but the new intro is really on point

  • @MrMariodpinheiro
    @MrMariodpinheiro Před 3 lety

    Loved the trash talk!

  • @DheerajBhaskar
    @DheerajBhaskar Před 3 lety +10

    Please do more such intros. They're amazing. The rap, take down style bit

  • @binitapandey5400
    @binitapandey5400 Před 3 lety +1

    This is so underrated video. Value video😛

  • @DangosAreCute
    @DangosAreCute Před 3 lety +1

    I absolutely love these openings 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MitchHills
    @MitchHills Před 3 lety

    I do a bit of both, but not at the same time. Eg I have mostly indexes, then some individual value stocks like banks etc, then some growth in tech. It’s just about putting in what you’re comfortable with across each type :) (eg 80% value, 20% growth)

  • @dayvidsdays5644
    @dayvidsdays5644 Před 3 lety +2

    Good explanation! I try to grab a mix of value an growth stocks. I try to diversify while taking some bolder positions. #Barbell

  • @prathamvora1533
    @prathamvora1533 Před 3 lety +1

    Mannnnn you smashed ittttr

  • @kamalthakur1341
    @kamalthakur1341 Před 3 lety

    V nice n informative video. Thanks

  • @TrebleWing
    @TrebleWing Před 3 lety

    Are these aspects typically one or the other, or is it good to look at both and possibly find positives in both aspects?

  • @lI-tm2pn
    @lI-tm2pn Před 3 lety +9

    Your stuff is always hilarious!

  • @CotySchwabe
    @CotySchwabe Před 2 lety

    Sickest intro yet

  • @alexvech
    @alexvech Před 3 lety

    Ev/sales is one of my fave skimming metrics ! ;)

  • @tote9792
    @tote9792 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @midnick2159
    @midnick2159 Před 3 lety +22

    Richard saying: "I feel sorry for you son", is the hardest thing i've heard all week. What a G✌🏾

  • @zvxcvxcz
    @zvxcvxcz Před 2 lety +5

    I'm going with a blend of growth via an ETF that tracks the S&P500 and small cap value ETFs. And then getting a few value based and solid picks like Ally and Unilever. And Target's rare miss recently made it a good long term pick up in my opinion, also made Williams Sonoma a good pick up indirectly even though they are definitely growing. And the timing worked out conveniently since it was just before Sonoma's earnings and they did really well.

  • @markinson561
    @markinson561 Před 3 lety

    Good video!

  • @vincentyao2453
    @vincentyao2453 Před 3 lety +28

    as warren buffett said, growth is just part of the equation for finding value.

  • @NewEnglandGaming413
    @NewEnglandGaming413 Před 3 lety

    I find that currently alot of really solid retailers are growing fast while keeping PEs below 20 and being overlooked

  • @chikeo5218
    @chikeo5218 Před 3 lety

    Ooooo Plain Bagel be snapping son!

  • @SR-xq5yt
    @SR-xq5yt Před 3 lety +1

    Do you have a video on how to know the intrinsic value if there is a way of knowing

  • @labeasta101
    @labeasta101 Před 3 lety +13

    Growth can definitely work out well for an investor after enough research/luck. If you put up $10k at Amazons IPO you’d have about $18 million today. The most important thing however is to do your research and hold your positions over a long term period.

  • @garcia4062
    @garcia4062 Před 3 lety

    Gracias

  • @401ria3
    @401ria3 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm with you bro these walnut dopes probably have never even heard of a DCF!!!

  • @niax6920
    @niax6920 Před 3 lety

    Best intro 😂🙌🏽

  • @AntonWongVideo
    @AntonWongVideo Před 3 lety +71

    The beginning of this video has the same energy as the "Get rich" ads that came before it LOL
    we all know the best investments were Enron 2001 are blockbuster 2010

    • @myaparker
      @myaparker Před 3 lety

      agreed

    • @meh4062
      @meh4062 Před 3 lety +5

      Filthy boomer, shoulda done hertz, luckin coffee, wirecard.

    • @adlerdoesstuff1872
      @adlerdoesstuff1872 Před 3 lety

      was it from mathew lepre

    • @universenerdd
      @universenerdd Před 2 lety

      @@meh4062 I have never heard of those and I am younger than you

  • @rogerguzman7004
    @rogerguzman7004 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant. Love the jokes, makes learning fun

  • @chiararebecchi10
    @chiararebecchi10 Před 3 lety

    Could you do a video comparing a margin account and a cash account?

  • @lilflame69
    @lilflame69 Před 3 lety +4

    That Intro Tho 😂🔥Now Thats How You Get A Subscriber!!!

  • @someparts
    @someparts Před 9 měsíci +1

    LOL that opener was hard.

  • @misskatiesmith27
    @misskatiesmith27 Před 3 lety +16

    I almost thought, and kind of wish, that this entire video would be a rap 🤣.

  • @wuziwu8148
    @wuziwu8148 Před 9 měsíci

    My approach is simple, I buy a broad market ETF owning a sector/commodity/country when they are cheap (52 week lows, or 5 year lows) and keep buying the dip when it goes lower until a reversal to intrinsic value occurs and hold for decades. Sometimes value is cheaper, sometimes growth, sometimes microcap. "Price is what you pay, value is what you get" -Warren Buffet

  • @goldewl
    @goldewl Před 3 lety

    I'm fine with the growth/value blend fund of VOO.

  • @ThinkFinance
    @ThinkFinance Před 3 lety +2

    Great stuff. Like most pro will say. Makes sense to take a balanced approach.my portfolio is more growth biased.

  • @TheBullTheBear101
    @TheBullTheBear101 Před 3 lety

    Good !

  • @Trezker
    @Trezker Před 3 lety

    I think a big factor of where people have success depends on psychology. Reckless investors are more likely to bet on growth stocks, neglecting due diligence, falling for fallacies and losing money. But a careful investor who does their due diligence and doesn't gamble will do extremely well on growth stocks because they figure out which ones are not traps.

  • @Psiconauta-cabalista
    @Psiconauta-cabalista Před 3 lety +1

    What do you call a value investor that is ok with a p/e of 25?