Different Ways To Play: Bach PRELUDE No. 2 in C minor (from WTK1) - Analysis Tutorial

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  • Come along when we explore the harmonic journey of Bach's Prelude no. 2 in C minor from the Well-Tempered Clavier. Since there are very few markings other than the notes, pianists different choices create different interpretations of the same music. With pianist Henrik Kilhamn.
    0:00 About
    0:52 Different ways
    2:21 Analysis, Harmony
    6:43 Build-up starts
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    ▶ Ólafsson, • Víkingur Ólafsson - Ba...
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    Music: J. S. Bach: Prelude no. 2 in C minor, BWV.847, from "Das Wohl-Temperiert Klavier."
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Komentáře • 172

  • @clementbeaudonnat1381
    @clementbeaudonnat1381 Před rokem +336

    The impersonation of Gould killed me😂😂

    • @neutral_puma845
      @neutral_puma845 Před rokem +27

      Same 🤣 I laughed out loud when he hummed 😭😂

    • @adic9091
      @adic9091 Před rokem +15

      lol I laughed so hard at his impression.

    • @pedrod.7576
      @pedrod.7576 Před rokem +7

      It was brilliant!

    • @PerfectCadence_XO
      @PerfectCadence_XO Před rokem +14

      Lmfaooo no way you hit Gould with the that audible moan in the interpretation ahaha

    • @charlesloving4820
      @charlesloving4820 Před rokem +3

      Yes, I cracked up at that.😂

  • @kyleh4354
    @kyleh4354 Před rokem +79

    OMG. That Glenn Gould impersonation had me laughing out loud! Spot on - well done!

    • @Mike1614b
      @Mike1614b Před rokem +1

      yeah I laughed too. Glen kinda hummed. or wailed, whatever

    • @frederik606
      @frederik606 Před rokem

      @@Mike1614b Je pense qu'il ne le faisait pas exprès, peut être lié à une tension nerveuse...

    • @Mike1614b
      @Mike1614b Před rokem +1

      @@frederik606 Je suis d'accord mais ça ne me dérange pas

    • @frederik606
      @frederik606 Před rokem

      @@Mike1614b bien sûr. ..

    • @leongatha6
      @leongatha6 Před 3 měsíci

      Not even a little like spot on. You should give it a few listens unstead of blindly feeling you need to comment.

  • @Jazzmaster58
    @Jazzmaster58 Před rokem +40

    Finally someone that analyzes the harmonic material of classical pieces like a Jazz musician would. I am a Jazz musician and this is time saving stuff for my line of work, so, thank you for making it so easy.

    • @PijanitsaVode
      @PijanitsaVode Před 11 měsíci

      Totally!

    • @cldavis33
      @cldavis33 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I don't know why my classical teachers didn't cover theory, because when I came back from jazz studies, I then could analyze classical beautifully. Bach has all kinds of awesome chord changes. It is also MUCH easier to memorize his pieces when you look at the theory because the note have context now, instead of just notes.

    • @johnapple6646
      @johnapple6646 Před 4 měsíci

      Lots of students don't care about theory ​@@cldavis33

    • @JariSatta
      @JariSatta Před 21 dnem

      @@cldavis33 Truth!

  • @Tovify
    @Tovify Před rokem +17

    Lol that Gould imitation XD

  • @longhaulblue
    @longhaulblue Před rokem +4

    Bach's false endings are the best. As clearly shown in this prelude and in countless other works.

  • @haqvor
    @haqvor Před rokem +6

    I'm currently recovering from a hand surgery and need good exercises to regain dexterity in my left hand. Beethoven doesn't really work very well for that so enter Sonata Secrets with the perfect piece. In Bach We Trust! Thanks Henrik!

  • @tung_x
    @tung_x Před 3 dny

    I've been fascinated with this one since I heard bassist Jeff Berlin play it ("Bach") on his second album Pump It! back in 1986. He also plays a great solo on it as well. Took some liberties, of course.

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt Před 2 měsíci +1

    Suddenly this piece comes into clear focus for me after struggling to analyze it for weeks. Thank you!

  • @DIYerGuy
    @DIYerGuy Před rokem +1

    A really great analysis, as well as an explanation and demonstration of this subtle and beautiful Bach keyboard piece. Thank you!

  • @mikehughes6582
    @mikehughes6582 Před rokem +5

    I love how you lowered the piano stool for the Glenn Gould interpretation.

  • @annalobanova8338
    @annalobanova8338 Před rokem +2

    what a great analysis and excellent performance, thanks for the video

  • @wongkp8602
    @wongkp8602 Před rokem +3

    Appreciate your clear analysis and demonstration 😊

  • @robbes7rh
    @robbes7rh Před rokem +2

    Really helpful. I’ve been thinking about how I would want to play this prelude, and you’ve highlighted the various possibilities as well as given it a spine on which I can experiment with some ideas. I would not have dared to play block chords in place of Bach’s melodic motifs. But watching you do that and bringing forward the beautiful harmonic progression with suspended 2nds resolving to 3rds (something I hadn’t taken note of when reading the score), I’m like, why the hell not. It’s another dimension of understanding this piece that Bach wrote and kept alive his whole life.

  • @mymatemartin
    @mymatemartin Před rokem +2

    This is my first experience of your channel and I have to say, I was enthralled. An exellent tutorial and commentay on each part of the piece. Makes me want to play, practice and enjoy the piano more.
    The Gould impression was priceless. 😂

  • @evelyneduval6441
    @evelyneduval6441 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the excellent harmony analysis!

  • @willrobertson6624
    @willrobertson6624 Před rokem +2

    I watch many educational musics videos…but Sonata Secrets is my favorite by far!

  • @creativeself7147
    @creativeself7147 Před rokem

    Another great video! Absolutely love your approach to music!

  • @davidroux7987
    @davidroux7987 Před rokem

    Just what I needed! Brilliant analysis and crisp playing...

  • @ethanduran7750
    @ethanduran7750 Před rokem +4

    Watching you analyze pieces is always a welcome part of my day, that Glenn Gould impression was spot on 😂

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Před rokem

    Merci beaucoup for this. I'm glad you mentioned that this was an intermediate piece so I will go to an easier one after the C Major. Loved your Gould playing.

  • @Solfonny
    @Solfonny Před rokem +12

    One thing Gould and Gulda both do, which I like a lot for this piece, is to hold out the pinky notes in the 1st section of the prelude. The harmony hangs over the chromatic inner notes. Gould is eccentric with it, but it creates a kind of magical trance-like feeling for me. It's definitely a good finger exercise.
    My favorite performances of this are by Wanda Landowska and Evelyne Crochet.

  • @mackenzie77777
    @mackenzie77777 Před 4 měsíci

    What a great teacher !! Nice to have the actual chord voicing explained. I`ve subscribed, thanks.

  • @bettyjalpa7858
    @bettyjalpa7858 Před rokem

    Great explanation! Love your videos!

  • @gavinfraser5784
    @gavinfraser5784 Před 4 měsíci

    Nicely explained with visual score as well.

  • @maximusheronimus23980
    @maximusheronimus23980 Před měsícem

    i'm trying this stunning piece with this help, i'm trying to get the chords into my fingers in combination with a couple of bars of the piece itself, this makes it even more special

  • @oceansmusicinhkukandgerman7009

    Currently learning this prelude and fugue to enhance my technique too! What coincidence!

  • @john_demartini
    @john_demartini Před rokem

    Thank you for the shout out 🤗

  • @jerryvan8799
    @jerryvan8799 Před rokem

    You’re both funny and v insightful. Love the Glen Gould impression.

  • @claudiogarcia8860
    @claudiogarcia8860 Před rokem +1

    Thanks very much.

  • @andrewplowman7907
    @andrewplowman7907 Před rokem

    Great video - fun and informative

  • @ronaldl9085
    @ronaldl9085 Před rokem

    I loved the Gould singing! LOL

  • @vengermanu9375
    @vengermanu9375 Před 3 měsíci

    Learning to play this piece just now. Nice to get some analysis of it :-)

  • @enriqueernesto738
    @enriqueernesto738 Před rokem

    I just discovered your channel and I like your way to analyze this piece

  • @DressedForDrowning
    @DressedForDrowning Před rokem

    Hendrik, I like the way you play Bach!! 😀😍

  • @UteYoobMC
    @UteYoobMC Před rokem

    Loved your analysis. Thank you. I have subscribed and look forward to further videos - very excited.
    Your take on Gould did kill me. For me, he is the ultimate Bach interpreter. Tsk tsk

  • @Skhal
    @Skhal Před rokem

    Dope video !!

  • @sospiroso
    @sospiroso Před rokem

    You are a star........Brilliant tutorial! 👍

  • @SR71YF12
    @SR71YF12 Před rokem +2

    About the Glenn Gould impersonation. You got the low chair, the body position and the famous finger tapping technique right, but you still need to put in some additional work on perfecting the humming.

  • @BeatPOWERvomPowerhof
    @BeatPOWERvomPowerhof Před 27 dny

    brilliant!

  • @instrujam
    @instrujam Před rokem +4

    2:12 This is a really hilarious Glen Gould impression hahaha 🙂

  • @DJKLProductions
    @DJKLProductions Před rokem +8

    Thank you so much for finally going Bach in time again! I, probably we, have waited so long for you to do it again and now the time has come.
    I am especially grateful, as baroque music, according to your own information, is not your field of expertise, or your usual environment! Thank you very much for allowing us to enjoy this!
    However, and hopefully you are interested, there are already romantic approaches with late baroque and early classical composers, such as Wilhelm Friedemann Bach with his 12 Polonaises for Fortepiano.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Před rokem +4

      Thank you! I even have one final Bach in the works for this last stretch actually.....a very famous piece....

    • @DJKLProductions
      @DJKLProductions Před rokem +2

      @@SonataSecrets The problem with guessing is that there are so many famous pieces for keyboard instruments by Bach. All the more reason for me to be curious about which one it will be!

  • @littlebigkaycey
    @littlebigkaycey Před rokem

    I just subscribed because of your Gould audiations!

  • @davidleyland3170
    @davidleyland3170 Před 9 měsíci

    Brilliant. And your Glen Gould impersonation, well😎

  • @bobgobknob
    @bobgobknob Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you so much, very helpful. Also I love Glen Gould but you made me laugh!

  • @eduardo4134
    @eduardo4134 Před rokem

    Good explanations...congratuklations!...

  • @Arivakrish
    @Arivakrish Před rokem

    Wonderful Video and to me is informative and useful m Appreciate it...thank you!

  • @NITAY751
    @NITAY751 Před rokem

    That AHHH of Gould was hilarious!

  • @ericrakestraw664
    @ericrakestraw664 Před rokem

    The No. 2 C minor prelude is very similar stylistically to the first prelude in C major. Both preludes start with 16th note figurations that repeat every half bar and harmonic changes every bar, and both preludes end with a pedal point in the deep bass.

  • @Rombizio
    @Rombizio Před rokem

    This is hard. And very well explained.

  • @lindamanousaki3974
    @lindamanousaki3974 Před rokem

    You're brilliant

  • @rosaliedeneubourg3225
    @rosaliedeneubourg3225 Před rokem +6

    Thank you dear Henrik for this instructive and amusing video. I found it funny how you portrayed the different types of players, especially Glenn Gould.
    I like Bach myself but my heart is even more attached to Debussy. So I'm always very happy when you bring him up. I can't wait to see which Debussy piece comes next.🙏♥️🎹🎶🎵🤗
    „Valse Romantique“ maybe?

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 Před rokem

    Thanks, it’s a nice vídeo❤❤❤

  • @SDGBach14
    @SDGBach14 Před rokem +2

    I really like the overhead view. This prelude can be tricky for fingering. Looks like you use the thumbs on the black keys, except in one place you cross over the index finger (measure 14).

  • @wellnessriegel
    @wellnessriegel Před rokem

    great love it

  • @user-lf8lf3ft3x
    @user-lf8lf3ft3x Před rokem +1

    bravissimo.¨!!!!!!!!

  • @robbes7rh
    @robbes7rh Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @user-ew3yc5dx3j
    @user-ew3yc5dx3j Před 3 měsíci

    Belle analyse. La caricature de Gould est fulgurante.

  • @stephenohms1795
    @stephenohms1795 Před rokem

    Instant sub

  • @oneirdaathnaram1376
    @oneirdaathnaram1376 Před rokem +1

    02:19 made my day.

  • @pierfrancescopeperoni

    I tend to play it pretty slow constructing the building, then I make a small rallentando at the end of the fifth bar before the arpeggios, and make an accelerando in the last four bars before the arpeggios, as if there the piece exploses, the rigid structured building starts falling. Then a final boom in the low g after the arpeggios, a small pause while the fragments go up in the air, and then they fall on the ground again, one after another.

  • @KINIONBEATS
    @KINIONBEATS Před 11 měsíci

    Luv ya dude,...u rock

  • @paxwallace8324
    @paxwallace8324 Před 3 měsíci

    So look some of us are jazz pianists who live and breath chord progression stop leaving that info out. God well you're doing a hell of a lot better than most classical cats that way.

  • @theyapsta
    @theyapsta Před rokem

    I'm a guitar player... not sure what I'm doing here but I'm sure the algorithm knows. That was great by the way.

  • @antonellamajorano5348

    Io , non conoscendo l'inglese, non ho comprreso ciò che ha detto . Leggendo i commenti sottostanti non ho trovato menzionato S. RICHTER che, a mio gusto personale, ha dato la più straordinaria interpretazione di questo pezzo.
    Io paragono il risultato che ha ottenuto al celebre quadro di Van Gog " corvi su campo di grano."
    Una cascata di suoni che racchiudono bellissimi disegni armonici . Il risultato è drammatico e veramente sconvolgente. Se non sapessi che Bach è credente, questo pezzo straordinario mi fa pensare a un universo cupo e senza Dio. Straordinario effetto evocativo della musica.

  • @jisyang8781
    @jisyang8781 Před rokem +1

    2:20 Dedication to art

  • @mohammadbayazid5064
    @mohammadbayazid5064 Před rokem

    Yes Bach!

  • @wss952
    @wss952 Před rokem

    The moaning in your Gould interpretation made me laugh very hard thank you for being you lol

  • @user-uz7gb7gb4v
    @user-uz7gb7gb4v Před rokem +1

    The Glenn Gould impersonation was amazing!
    Friedrich Gulda's interpretation is also worth a mention. It's also super unorthodox, but more convincing than Gould's, in my opinion (and it dispenses with Gould's vocal obbligato, which is always a plus).

  • @PijanitsaVode
    @PijanitsaVode Před 11 měsíci

    Bravo for the precise, crystal-clear harmonic analysis
    and for de facto insisting on having the feel and comprehension of it as a pianist.
    Nahre Sol does not do it much
    Music Matters does it, in a more rule-based, scholarly way.
    Both omit to mention it when talking practicing and learning a piece or playing patterns (arpeggios...).

  • @Stigggs
    @Stigggs Před rokem

    Excellent synopsis on this piece. I also liked your Glenn Gould imitation. Accurate and funny. Thank you very much.
    I do have one question. On measure 18, the ninth note in the left hand, base clef. Some sheet music shows it to be a C. While others show it to be a B flat. I’ve seen both equally. The sheet music that you used shows a C. Can you tell me which is really correct? Should it be C or B flat? (If you google images of the sheet music you will see the variations).

  • @andrescolomarcedeno9952
    @andrescolomarcedeno9952 Před 10 měsíci

    Bro you should do the invention 13 !!

  • @Honestcritic79
    @Honestcritic79 Před rokem

    you know where we can find a version of the chords only that you played?

  • @PijanitsaVode
    @PijanitsaVode Před 11 měsíci

    Are there, available somewhere, harmonically annotated scores?
    Every time I ask for that or suggest that, it's dumblooksnocharge, even hostility.
    That could be produced collectively (crowdsourcing).

  • @_rstcm
    @_rstcm Před rokem

    Please do Respighi's Notturno from his 6 pieces for piano.

  • @tunaliiss
    @tunaliiss Před rokem +2

    pls make fugue c minor ❤️❤️

  • @wandajames143
    @wandajames143 Před rokem

    I would like this interpretation for the prelude in e minor #10

  • @angellohector
    @angellohector Před rokem +1

    Question, why did you choose that speed

  • @oldschoolchartist
    @oldschoolchartist Před rokem

    I decided to change the phrasing just a bit, at least in my head. Instead of a downbeat followed by three 16th's, I think of it as one 16th note on the beat with the next three 16th's phrasing into the next down beat. So, instead of 'One ie and uh' 'Two ie and uh' 'Three ie and uh'... it would be 'One' 'ie and uh TWO' 'ie and uh THREE' etc. Each set of 4 16ths with the last three leading into the next down beat...

  • @HenHanna
    @HenHanna Před rokem +1

    Please comment on -- 11min 53sec (played 3 times) Lou Ni (arr.) - [Bach G Minor] Extended by Melodic Music Extension (185K views) -- Thank you!

  • @Hjominbonrun
    @Hjominbonrun Před rokem +1

    Lol, the Gould interpretation.
    I like this piece. many times when I play it,
    it will sound very different depending on whether I have had coffee, too much coffee, or no coffee.

  • @erggish
    @erggish Před rokem

    10:36 is Bo dominant diminished or the 7th degree?

  • @hippophile
    @hippophile Před rokem

    Really great episode. But you need to practice that the Gould Grunt a bit more... 😂

  • @WeedMIC
    @WeedMIC Před 9 měsíci

    Presto adagio allegro - these were put there by bach, or the printer?

  • @Charstring
    @Charstring Před rokem

    I didn't know that the tempo markings came from Bach, I always thought that Carl Czerny put them in.

  • @temelreyis
    @temelreyis Před 6 měsíci

    Wasn't it starting in Fugues? I always pass this part

  • @dwdei8815
    @dwdei8815 Před rokem +1

    Very engaging and nicely presented. But can the choice of how to play this be separated from the fact that it is the curtain-raiser and mood-setter to what I think is the wittiest and chirpiest of the fugues? I see a lot of echoes in the Shostakovich Prelude & Fugue in Am (vol 1) in harmonic pattern, melody and jokiness.
    My first reaction to your Gould was "That's amusing - but outrageous!". So I dug out a recording of it - and yes it was that, er, "individual" (but without the famous moaning).

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Před rokem +1

      I think it should of course be considered as paired with the fugue as you point out, but also that it can be taken out and stand on its own, as a short character piece. It depends on the context for playing it.

  • @ZKLofiTone
    @ZKLofiTone Před rokem

    Killed me hahahahahaha 2:19

  • @nezkeys79
    @nezkeys79 Před rokem

    8:20 the LH here I still cant play
    Any suggestions 😅

  • @stevehinnenkamp5625
    @stevehinnenkamp5625 Před rokem +1

    What would have been marvelous is to have pointed out the Adams, Glass Minialmists are only doing what Bach did several centuries ago 😮.
    Only Bach did it better--and took less time.

  •  Před 11 měsíci +1

    You have just killed Gould 😭

  • @bachemanuel9645
    @bachemanuel9645 Před rokem

    Glen gould n1

  • @may8629
    @may8629 Před rokem

    I like Tureck’s version

  • @nehath123
    @nehath123 Před 11 měsíci

    Haye you ever planned to do some of Brahms Hungarian Dances. They are way too underrepresented on CZcams.
    Would be mice

  • @allhailalona
    @allhailalona Před rokem +5

    Gould will never be surpassed, he's a genius the stature of bach and Beethoven. While others fight the piano trying to prove their dexterity and skills. Gould was playing side-by-side with the piano, giving each and each note attention and love.

  • @kofiLjunggren
    @kofiLjunggren Před rokem +1

    2:17

  • @therealmrfishpaste
    @therealmrfishpaste Před rokem

    Bach hitting the ii V i

  • @trevjr
    @trevjr Před rokem +1

    I enjoy your videos, you seem to pick works that I also love myself. I prefer the Gould method in this piece and I use it as a warm up with no pedal and holding the top notes for almost a half note like Gould does but he is not consistent in this. I think his pacing is just perfect and find most play it way too fast so you miss some of the inner notes. For me Bach requires every note be heard and not mumbled or jumbled past. Also your score appears to be wrong in measure 18, the bass note in the second half of the measure goes down to a Bb, the only measure where there is a different bass note, it makes sense as it descends to the Ab. It appears that you play the Bb though. In any case you do a great job in this work as usual!

  • @jsc5492
    @jsc5492 Před rokem

    Does the final Allegro give us the tempo indication for the beginning of the prelude?
    Whatever the tempo of the beginning, equal notes give us the effect of machinal playing (sounds like a knitting machine).
    You dont mention other aspects of possible performance practice. Accents, staccato, legato, some 1/16 notes held longer than others...
    OK for the analysis, not quite OK for "Different ways to play".
    Have you already analysed other Bach pieces that open with harmonies I II(7) V(7) I ? It's very common.

  • @mattiafioravanti8475
    @mattiafioravanti8475 Před rokem +1

    2:20 HAWHAAAHWHWAHWAHWHAAW

  • @Enad700
    @Enad700 Před rokem

    Except my respect, it's not quite the same C minor prelude of Gould I have in my music library.