Why Didn't Uriah Hall Live Up To The Hype?
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- Why Didn't Uriah Hall Live Up To The Hype?
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Part of me thinks that Uriah really didn't like hurting people
Some say he got gunshy after the scary Adam Cella knockout on TUF. Don't really know how true that is though
It rocked him a little you could tell. This has been my theory for a long time as well. I remember him just freezing through a few fights and loosing to much less talented guys.
@@ItsTheAtomicGamer it's true. Dana even complained that the guy won't let his hands go.
@@ItsTheAtomicGamer he still destroyed his next 2 opponents. It was all mental once he was out of the TUF house
He reminds me of Rory McDonald they lose there killer instict bec the damage those guys are causing
I trained with Uriah hall at fortis, I was brand new and I made a passing comment about wanting to lose 10 lbs. Dude after class sat down with me for 15 minutes and just gave me weight cutting advice and helped me figure out my macros. Just the nicest and Chillest guy.
Weight cutting?
I also trained with him and he sat down with me for 15 minutes talking about the art of wheel kicking and macros. Sweet guy
@@southpawpanda4447 do a spinning wheel kick right now, in orthodox stance.
🧢
@@kingkazma5937 yeah like weight loss
It’s oddly poetic. Uriah, who was compared to Anderson beats him and then beats the first guy to beat Silva in the ufc the same way that he got beat
He was also the first one to beat uriah
Uriah was next to suffer the infamous Anderson Silva Chris Weidman leg break 🦵
You know, the most surprising thing is, chris and hall have fought before like 10 years ago
@@hakr4751 And Chris won that fight, so it's like a UFC square instead of a triangle lol
That’s actually crazy not poetic. Silva snapped his leg with Chris checking it Nd then Chris snapped his leg with Uriah check. Chris even tho a good guy put his hand up like he was celebrating the win running around after what happened to Silva nd that happening to him is fucking nuts
The only guy I've ever seen who seems more devastated by his victories than his losses, Even Roxanna Modaferri loved the competition enough that it outweighed her happy spirit. There's nothing wrong with being too kind to be a cage fighter tho, I wish him well in the next step of his career. I've followed him from the beginning.
I think you said that first part backwards bro.
@@Schismatic1336 hot damn you right and the autocorrect made it Roxanna lmao thanks for the heads up.
Junior dos Santos also looks like a murder in the cage but is super friendly outside of it.
Uriah had such potential but it was his mental blocks that impeded his progression.
Yeah it just seemed like he never really worked on his cardio, takedown defense, defensive footwork, or counter striking.
He was never the same after that tuf wheel kick that almost killed that dude.
@@moresomoze agreed 💯 he never was the same after that
He just didn't have the competitive fire for some reason, he said himself that Chael really talked him into confidence. He really needed to seek a sports psychologist to get him to be able to be fired up for fights cuz he always started so slow.
that spinning heel kick is still the most brutal looking knockout ive seen
I remember Uriah’s interview with the Schmo before his fight with Andre Muniz where he was talking about being in the title picture after this win and how styles make fights. At the time I just chalked it up to fighter talk, but this video puts that interview in a different perspective to me. It felt like Uriah was trying to convince himself he was a high caliber fighter rather than us. Uriah has produced so many memorable moments in this sport, it’s really unfortunate he could never develop his mentality in line with his skills.
Also during his JRE podcast he had mentioned going through a bad breakup where his girlfriend cheated on him at his own house.
Wow. I did not know that, but I'm not surprised. I've noticed that tends to happen to sensitive guys.
I’m a big fan of the MMA Fan sport even though I don’t follow it to the T but I always wondered what happened to Hall. As I remember when he first arose to the scene, everyone thought of him to be the next big thing. Atleast hes able to retire healthy & made some money for his family.
His heart is too pure. He used to cry after knocking guys out because of his deep empathy. When he first started, people were saying he could beat the best middleweights on the planet who were anderson silva and chris weidman at the time. Even though he didnt fully live up to his hype, he did meet that expectation at least
Excellent topic!!! I remember him on TUF. Highlight of the ages!!! And Chael's Anderson comment was on the same level as Joe's Machida era comment😂😂
to be fair there are so many of these " the next silva etc. " cases . I'm happy for Urijah and I hope that he enjoys whatever he does next. MMA is such a tough sport
Great video bro, tbh I really underestimated It would be interesting however you provided Valuable context on his career trajectory. Keep up the work.
@kiiyonkimura I agree with everything your saying the only thing I disagree with is with the Sean Strickland fight. The first punch Uriah absorbed broke his orbital and he was unable to see Strickland. Which is a damn shame because if he had beat Sean he would have got a shot at Izzy and let's face it in another reality Uriah Hall beats Israel by KO.
Uriah isn't KO'ing Izzy in any universe. Izzy is too good of a striker.
@@madgavin7568 my guy in sorry to tell you but Uriah vs Izzy was the fight to make and yes Izzy is a fantastic striker. Just never count out primetime. I could see the fight going ither way but I still think in my opinion Uriah wins that fight cuz it matters.
@@afrobladerunner5471 Uriah in this timeline had nothing for Izzy. Too gun-shy, lacks the cardio to go the distance, not enough variety or creativity in his striking, not enough fight IQ. Izzy picks him apart, but peeps won't admit because they dislike the Gynobender.
Hall could have been a title challenger [or maybe even a champ] if he could consistently pull the trigger. In some of his fights, Hall was very clearly losing until he basically decided to KO his opponents. I’m pretty confident had Hall beat Strickland, we would have gotten Adsenya vs Hall title fight. I wouldn’t have favoured Hall over Adsenya, but earning a title is accolade in itself. Hall while not the most consistent fighter, had a good career in my opinion.
I remember one time he was gonna fight Yoel and he was aggressively calling him out which was very uncharacteristic. Too bad the fight didn’t go ahead but prolly a good thing for Uriah
Love his exciting fighting style. Great topic and answer.
The greatest talent to never actually show his talent
He just does not want to hurt, or hurt others anymore, he is peace and love now , Hare Krishna!
I knew a guy just like him in high school. Could have been a professional football player, could have beat anyone’s ass that messed with him but his heart wouldn’t let him go all out. He for real didn’t want to hurt someone even someone trying to hurt him.
Fair assessment.
You nailed it. I said the exact same thing. Too good hearted to hurt people
i was literally just talking to my friend about this
Good points, as always.
So much respect for Any cage fighter, their toughness, courage and heart.
Hall didn't have much gas tank, he seemed to "quit" sometimes especially the last few years...and he zones out ! You can see it on the stool between rounds, nonechalant, unresponsive, unfocused, kinda not motivated, then he never worked on his wrestling, or wrestling defense at least !!! In any case it never evolved for some reason, guys just knew to take him down, hold him down and grind a finish or a decision... Still one entertaining fighter we had the privilege to watch
You might be on to something that he's a "Nice guy" lol.
Imagine if Uriah had Jones or Peter's mind set
Hey Kiyoon love your freakin' video man
Can you do how good was
- Josh Barnett
- Andrew Tate
- Dan Severn
Sick
Imagine if Uriah have a Killer Instinct.....
He almost killed that one dude and he never gave it his full ever again most ppl don’t understand when u hurt someone really bad behind combat sports it takes something away from you it’s like u lose that killer instinct you get afraid to really hurt a man again
Short answer: that TUF spinning back kick fucked his head up
Looking big, king
There's also the fact that he isn't very young but most MMA strikers not in the heavyweight division that achieve a consistent level of success are either very proficient counter strikers or if they do lean more heavy on proactive offense like Hall have a complimentary wrestling pedigree to accompany it so they aren't as susceptible to takedowns and can mix up on offense.
Saw this dude at the barbershop, one of the chillest people I've ever met, and would not know he was a fighter based on his look. We were laughing about life and talking about ford bronco's..think he lives in dallas, at least thats where i ran into him. The barber actually broke the ice on him getting a new car after he beat up on leveon bell in his exhibition boxing match. And he actually spoke on the silva fight and said that he was such a humble cool guy and he didn't want to have to beat his idle like that...
Pure strikers never live up to the hype in MMA because striking is eventually a game where you get caught.
Striking lets you KO people in a flashy way, but they can do it to you too.
It's pretty rare to never get caught
Except izzy
@@bromoenook356 Oh he got caught. He also hasnt faced top level wrestlers unless you want to say Jan is who beat him 4-1. Theres a cpl of elite wrestlers coming up in the MW division. Izzy will never see that MW belt again once they get to the top which is gonna be real soon. If hes lucky the UFC will let him fight the winner of Jiri/Poatan but after losing to Sean I doubt it but we'll see. Not saying youre wrong because he did live up to the hype but those days are nearly over. Of course he could be like McNuggets and just take big money fights occassionaly but his championship era isnt fading but I hope he gets one last shot at the LHW belt. Either Jiri or the UFC trilogy fight between Poatan would bring in huge numbers while also being very controversial.
I always liked that guy, regardless of his W/L.
I'm gonna miss this Man
I love your videos, you should get a better background
Wow this video needed to be made...
To me he had the ability to be a great fighter with a mindset to match. the Rub is that fighting only goes down with one opponent at a time meaning you don't have to be the most rounded fighter in order to implement a sound strategy. BUT in Order to Advance in the UFC you have to make a show of it! The ability to be callous enough about a sport that's been so good to/for him yet at the same time incentivizes taking that good fortune away from the opponents by Doing them "Serious" Damage. It creates a unique space for sum1 like Hall who for all intents and purposes is too good at that objective. It doesn't leave much room for grace/mercy which robs him of being a good person. its the difference between you losing a match but its also the threat of losing/taking someones life/livelihood and thats normal looking at a lawyer movie...should be applicable here too. They didn't/couldnt pay him enough to fight as if he was gonna take people out the game (possibly permanently) so they benched him like major music labels did the Clipse or Lupe's albums. If you won't play ball like we want then you won't at all until your contract is up and your old(er). He's still relatively young and healthy so All the highest Hopes for the "Reluctant Reaper"! P.S. I watched that Ultimate fighter eps. and it was a 'Perfect" Kick. It was So good Everybody shut because they were in Awe!
It’s hard to get in the ring and want to fight someone you don’t know, I have struggled with this myself and it cost me my last match.
Still one of my favourite fighters ever
Uriah was the nice guy that can still fuk u up sad to see him retire
Every time someone says “The next Tyson”, “next Silva”, “next Ali”, etc, I wanna punch them in the mouth. There will never be a “next”, there will only ever be that 1 legendary fighter whether it’s Silva, Tyson, whoever.
It was over 30 seconds after he KO'd Adam and realized he didn't like hurting people
When he almost killed that guy in Ultimate fighter with the kick, I thought he was going to be the next Jon Jones.
La’Veon Bell is going to get strached by this man.
Aldo video Kiiyon
Best spinning kick in UFC history.
Its easy what went wrong in his first 2-3 years in ufc he was like i dont know if i have it in me to hurt someone im a martial artist and even though its somewhat true the fact is by the time he realized that those things werent winning him anything it was too late...from talking about title fights earlier this year to fighting leveon bell..at least hes getting paid so good on that
Have Uriah on a future video. Guy is a legend.
I was hyped for Uriah Hall even before he was on UFC, he was so skilled and agile.. When he came to UFC, i thought he gotta be a champion one day, but after seeing his face when he knocked out his opponent, i genuinely doubt he has the heart..
Uriah complaining about fighter pay, while also being one of the most inconsistent fighters in the history of the UFC, is absolutely hysterical.
how about an episode about Bonner or Karo Paresian
Kiyon been working out huh
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There are several full pride events on CZcams they were bigger then the ufc in the beginning I am talking selling out 80,000 seats in Japan might be a good place to start my friend
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@@chindub6563 thanks !
@Philosophy_First i don't think it's useful or cool to look down on ppl for liking something that you don't like, giving me suggestion would be better 👍
And as Homer Simpson would Say '' I enjoy all the meats of our cultural stew''
How good was Gary Goodridge?
I was surprised he did as well as he did.
People were to scared to stand up with him they took him down constantly and almost straight away.
Yeah that heel kick changed him
juiced kiyon 🥤
Secret juice
Lols kinda does look like he's estrogen levels ain't in check.lmqo
Fresh cut
Your crib is nice.
Uriah in my opinion is the best fighter in ufc history, he just did not want to hurt people, as he said if he could tell his young version " it is okay to kill those motherfuckers", back then he just had a good kind heart
Uriah is a talented fighter but in my opinion his big wins were more flukey and he kinda lived off his career of being explosive in the tuf house. Credit to him, but he’s not a technical fighter and is pretty one dimensional, probably on the same level as a juaquin Buckley. Which isn’t that bad honestly, but I don’t think it spells good things for his upcoming boxing fight.
True
Am I tripping or do you have the Seinfeld apartment set behind you 🤔 ?
"A perfectly crafted gun without the trigger" that's a sharp description of the problem with someone like Hall and other reticent fighters.
what about Kenny Florian
I like urijah hall for being explosive type of striker
Because he was, and is, too nice a guy for the Octagon.
He was always really upset when he thought he had seriously injured someone.
You have to have a genuine killer's instinct to be a professional fighter, amd Uriah didn't have that.
Thank you for not forggeting uriah i fell no one is talking about him
In a word ... grappling. Far too many of these strikers think that they can ignore wrestling and B.J.J. and win and the reality is that without being able to take a man down effectively or defend against the same you will lose too many fights and not even crack the top 5 of any of the UFC weight classes. Even taking his "mental game" into consideration, had he been a good grappler then he would have survived even thrived taking guys down and simply sitting on them for wins.
How good was Thiago alves
He's flashy when the stars align, but not flashy enough to beat all people, mental or physical, just not good enough... Just not good enough. But he's good
”hes a really good guy”: Uriah after losing a fight
”if you want to be good at this sport you cant be a nice guy you need to want to win and be upset if you don't”: Dana White after talking to Uriah after he lost a fight
Seinfeld apartment🤣
Uriah came into the game later in life. Had he gotten his debut in his 20s he'd have had a longer time to reign..he got some good pay outs. Close to $300000 for winning Anderson Silva.
I think it was the haircut.
Uriah didn't have the heart
He cried after beating Silva
Was depressed at the weidman leg break
Too much heart
Less cuts bruh
I think that kid would was bullied is still there. He learned marital arts for the love and self defense. I don't think he did it for the sport of combat. I'm sure he enjoy some of it but he has the heart of a destroyer. He has the skill has one. I bet he will be a great teacher and he should look into movies. He can probably do some fight scenes
Edit this nonsense
@@rally_chronicles do it for me and I'll replace it.
@@kurtbertrand1333 can't, then you won't learn anything son. Ain't no gib me dat over here.
@@rally_chronicles welp I guess, you just have to live with it there. Since you are the only one to respond to it.
He had all the physical attributes but mentally something was missing, even in sparring you could see when things wouldn’t go his way he would blast his sparring partners with full power spinning side kicks and then act surprised when they were folded on the ground like it was a accident.
Urijah was really good he is in middleweight a kiler division he didn’t really not live up to anything he wasn’t there as a mma to beat the people he needed he wouldn’t of beat izzy either or Robert or Paulo or Romero all absolute legends
Good thing he didn't fall victim to the infamous Anderson Silva Chris Weidman leg break incidents.
He was over hyped by the UFC looking to cash in on a new star, simple as that. His skills were always the same.
B4 i see the video. i think when he nearly killed a guy on ultimate fighter it kind of put a mental block on his skills.
He simply just didn’t have enough talent . He’s a phenomenal fighter but he just didn’t deliver when he was supposed to. It’s not like some grave mystery
Lmao love the comment. It is a mystery though u can't go from a monster to a mouse something changes
Ya
@@valrossi156 the levels of competition changed . Adam from the ultimate fighter is a nobody . He’s only known bc he almost died on camera . Anyone else , Uriah ended up not really doing well against . He had a good fight against Chris weirdman but he ended up snapping his shit and honestly hasn’t looked good at all since he fought kelvin like 5 years ago
I think that Spinning hook kick finish is why he didn't live up to his full potential
As a hall fan… it was never easy to like him till the end.. I’m glad he ended it and congrats to him for winning his boxing match
After his head kick he felt guilty from then on & didn’t give 100% for them on
This guy had the absolute worst luck as far as hurting people! He didn’t even have to try and he’d hurt someone, Chris weidman.
Well that wasn't the first or last time Chael was wrong.
Usada
He was losing before USADA even entered the conversation of them being implanted
Go on prove it to me then I'm waiting
@@valrossi156 use Google mate. I'm not gonna do it for you, grow up
fuuuck that chris weidman break was absolutely traumatizing
Sorry Kiiyon
-Uriah Hall
I'm with ya, homie! Know a cool drinking game? Take a sip every time there's a cut, lol.
That’s not funny bro Uriah shouldn’t have been cut
@@bromoenook356 Oh no, Moe!
@@bradnimbus4836 it’s not funny cuz it’s not funny even if I liked Uriah which I don’t but atleast I show respect to a pioneer of the sport get a life and a sense of humor drinking games damn bro weak af😂you drink a lot huh
@@bromoenook356 I love Hall. What's really funny is that I was referring to how many cuts Kiiyon made while editing his video, you absolute moron, lmao!
@@bromoenook356 Tell us you're simple without actually telling us you're simple! HAHAHA
Is he in Seinfeld’s crib 😂
Uriah lived in an age before Dana White Privilege. Uriah Halls skills + Modern day trash talk. Recipe for a Mega Star
Uriah simply was not as good as everyone thought. He didnt have the mentality or elite striking and ground game neccessary to hang with the best, even the Mousasi win can be written as a fluke.
Poor man Uriah..
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