Losi LMT vs the Axial SMT10 and Other Solid Axle Monster Trucks
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 22. 11. 2020
- đ„ Losi LMT RTR Grave Digger or Son-uva Digger: bit.ly/LosiLMT
đ„ Losi LMT Roller: bit.ly/LMTroller
It's only been announced for a little over a week, but the buzz is real and everyone is talking about the new Losi LMT. Is it bigger? Is it 1/8 scale? Can it race in Pro-Mod classes? Is it worth the money? (the answer to that is a resounding yes, but not discussed in this video).
I don't answer all the questions in this video, but I can understand them. I thought the truck was 1/8 scale when I first saw it. It looks bigger, because of the body size and how high it sits on the truck. When we got the trucks to make the Losi video, they didn't have a box or instructions, so it wasn't clear. Losi's site even to this day has it listed in the specs as 1/8 scale while the box clearly says it's 1/10 scale. But as you'll see in this video, it's actually similarly sized to the SMT10 and other trucks we race as 1/10 vehicles. The real question that will need to be addressed by your leagues is the addition of the center diff and if you need to replace it with a spool that Losi will be selling.
Just looking at specs, the Axial SMT10 wheelbase is 13.9" and the Losi LMT is 13.5"
Let's take a quick look at the trucks.
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Excellent comparison video! Thanks!
Good info thank you! Great collection đ
Love the comparison man! My Mrs just surprised me with a LMT Sonuva Digger for my 40th!! Well, a print out of it anyway!!
WICKED!!! Thatâs awesome Tim. Happy 40th
@@CCxRC Thanks, man! đđđ» Technically tomorrow, but she couldn't wait to surprise me. Handed me a card with the print out at dinner. Out loud said, 'No $#&#$ing way!!' She's the best!!
Great Review Tony! I think alot of us needed this review! đđżđđ
Glad you found it helpful. It's just a Pro-mod in a box (if you lock up the center diff) đ
@@CCxRC Haha Nice!! It definitely helped! Just built my first SMT10 which was a lot of fun. Might have to consider the LMT Roller's for future builds! Ya'll weren't holdin' back when ya'll bashin' these trucks! Losi definitely did an awesome job with the design and durability of this truck. Changed up the whole RTR game! Thanks again Tony! đđżđ
Great vid man!! Thanks for doing this.đ
It has been one of the most requested videos. Finally got to shoot it over the weekend. Just needed to finish up the edit and graphics for the video to post it. Planned to do it tonight, but have had a lot of questions after posting the picture of the axles
I love my Losi! I've only had to change wear parts. It doesn't surprise me that they are putting out more kick ass trucks! đ€đŻ
thanks for the comparison. this should help a lot of people wrap there heads around the LMT size
It's really deceptive. When I first saw them, I thought they were 1/8 scale. I think i even said that when I interviewed Kevin Hetmanski
Man that was a great vid! Love the shark body thatâs awesome
Where is the groundpounder brother! Great looking squad of monster trucks !!!đ
Thanks man. Helpful video.
I just want to dip my toes back in the hobby so I just picked up the new release smt10....as I couldnt justify spending $600 for what I want to do. Even though the losi looks and performs perfectly.
Another youtube video breifly compared the lmt with a stock smt10...and it made the axial look dinky. Seeing them both with real monster truck tires, side by side and measured took away my buyer's remorse for not springing for losi lol.
No need. Have fun building up your SMT10. Just make sure you install metal axle tubes into your axles if you get bigger wheels or want to bash it a lot
@@CCxRC
Good tip! I think I saw a video of yours where you added beef tubes to an axle!
Any other helpful upgrades to handle tribute wheels and golden years tires? Ill probably be sticking with the stock power train for a while.
I got the Axial Gravedigger figuring I'd save $300 over the Losi. I now spent $300 in upgrades.....Bl motor/ESC, Beef tubes, lights, metal drive shafts, titanium steering links, etc. Oh well, at least I have a fun project putting in all the parts.
All in all I like the Axial with it's more scale cage, but it's downfall is that it's just a tarted up crawler, where the Losi is designed from the ground up. I may end up getting the Losi when they come back in stock.
@@hobbycow5346 I'm quite happy with my Kyosho Mad Crusher. They're 200 bucks cheaper, bigger, and you can get them brushless or nitro. Mine is nitro; even more scale than anything else in the segment given it's got a genuine methanol-burning engine and 3-speed trans in it which none of the others have haha.
Nice comparation on the different size
Great collection outstanding
Yes sir they are all great looking trucks and very similar. But The LMT is next level in my humble opinion. Nice comparison Tony. Thanks
It really is next level for an RTR and for durability.
Great stuff Tonyđđ Is that a Pro-line body on the ZRD?
Not sure. I think so. I just ordered a Metal Mullisha for a Pro-C and they sent that. :)
Great Video!!
Nice set of monster trucks. Wish in the UK we could get more of the monster jam shells.
Awesome video. How well does the axial max d body fit on the lmt?
Probably not well. haha. The chassis will probably be longer that it. I can see some people cutting the chassis back to fit more bodies.
Pretty cool comparison
Awesome comparison they definitely stepped up the game but all very nice trucks
MONSTER TRUCKS.
Great video man.
I just ordered the smt10 raw builders kit and jconcepts 2.6 wheels and tires for my project!
Great comparison cause I thought it looked big but kinda knew losi wouldn't break the rules just the moldđđŻđ you can hear your knowledge and love for this style rc.
Thanks Guy! Solid Axle monster trucks are definitely my favorite RCs. I like all RCs, but I can't get enough of the SMTs
Thank you so much, I could have sworn it was larger than the others.
The HPI wheely king is a great performer too . Mine have taken a beating over the years and makes it fun to drive
Great comparison the bodies aren't deceiving to me MT are huge in full scale
Any issues with shock link end ripping out? Didn't bash hard, just in the loose dirt just got it, love it minus the shock issue
Love that Clod
Me too dude!! I'm Clod lover also. In my opinion the Clod is still the original"King of the Monsters." All the others are upgraded copies
Clod is king!
Nice comparison... don't make fun of the short guy.... đđI think it's the baddest looking one of the bunch.
it definitely has a good look to it. I'm still partial to the ZRD because of the chassis. It looks so bad when the body pops off in freestyle
Hey...greating from me from Indonesia,,wow nice car rc
the best monster truck between them is super cludbuster about losi son of diggir its good but he is not 4x4x4 like real monster jam
good video bud keep it upđ
Setting it next to the Axial and the Freestyle, its impressive that the Axial's axles don't snap more often.
That is true. The weak spot for me is the bevel gears on the diffs.
What do think this will do to the monster truck arms race among the different manufactures?
I know it's to early to really speculate...but as someone with knowledge and insight into the industry like yours, what do you think a company like axial could/will do to better the losi?
I donât think axial will do anything. Losi is a performance brand. Axial is a scale brand. People can build it up, but I think the SMT10 will stag entry level. Iâd watch Traxxas and Team Associated to see if it interests them...or possibly an upgraded Ground Pounder from Redcat?
Would any of the monster truck bodies fit any sc10 short course truck or slash?
I just bought a losi son of a digger and am customizing it. Question⊠The BigFoot body you have in the video, will it fit on the losi lmt? Its the nicest big foot body, besides making my own from JConcepts. Thank you
I really love lmt but if i dropped 600.00 on it i would need another 3500.00 for a divorce lawyer
I wish company's would come out bigger trucks than this.. because there be more classes in those monster truck racing.. they need give bigger trucks in like 1/6 or 1/5. Classes.. and give more people more options than like 1/10 classes . This what I think.... but hopefully someone let them know at these company's that make these at what I have said.. hopefully!! Because I think be great ideas.. to build them monster trucks bigger classes.. 1/6 or 1/5 or 1/7.. bigger.. solid axle monster trucks
Little early to request that. Hardly anyone makes 1/10 scale ones that are race ready yet. I could see them going bigger if these sell, but it gets very expensive because sizing these up and making durable axles gets expensive. But Iâd love to race my Bari Build and Raminator.
@@CCxRC
I wonder if "race ready" will hurt sales.
Let me explain. Most of us like the hobby because it allows us to build. I bet most people spend more time fixing or improving them than driving them...but if there's nothing left to do really, then that takes away a huge part of the hobby.
The body is perfect, the tires are the right size, the details are awesome, it already comes brushless...and from what I've seen, it's unbreakable.
So aside from drive it...what am I supposed to do?
I wonder if it'd have been smarter to take away some of that awesomeness, lower the price way down and offer that same awesomeness back as upgrade parts.
$600 is steep for non hobbyists. The smt10 is half that price.
Not that I'm complaining! It's perfect! And for those willing to spend that price, they're getting value. Just wondering if a different strategy would help appeal to more.
@@Faq-ubeach It doesn't say that on the box...,but if we are talking about making new RCs for racing when almost no company makes one for the 1/10 race platform...this is as close to Race Ready as they come. The box just calls it the Ultimate Solid-Axle Monster Truck....so "race ready" shouldn't hurt sales.
@@CCxRC
No no, I get that. We're deeming it "race ready", not them.
My point is, is that they've made something that is practically race ready....so there's nowhere for us to really go with it, modification wise.
Its already finished. Short of dropping it off my house to break it, I don't have any glaring faults to make stronger. And it's costs makes it hard for me to justify for just bashing.
I wonder if that won't hurt its sales.
@@CCxRC I do appreciate what they've done by making it though, it is what many of us have always wanted in a MT.
Back in the day when I was big into the hobby the best we had were old clods and t-maxxs. I hated the t-maxx. It's not even a monster truck.
Is the lmt bigger than a summit? Also does the lmt have a slower speed similar to the summit?
Witch one handles like a monster truck? And do you have a favorite?
Jan.8th can't come fast enough. Mine's all paid for but i'm not kewl like u broski lol j.k. I have to wait like all the other plain Janes Hahaha!
Iâve got axles and a new Grave Digger ordered with the same wait. đ
where did u get the bodies?
Where did you get the megaladon
Iâm pretty sure that The LMT Is one a scale because I have another one eighth scale truck and itâs pretty much the same size
Conclusion.....Tony loves monster trucks! đ€Ł
Just a little.
@@CCxRC Hey Tony the only thing I wish you touched on was how much each of those rc cost. I think it would be great to know compared to the Losi. Maybe if you have them all together again on video or maybe pinned comment or video description. Just a thought. Great video. Can't wait to get my roller version!!
@@cwatson42785 That wasn't what people had been questioning or asking before...which was to say that the LMT needed to be in a class of it's own because "it looks bigger"
@@cwatson42785 but honestly...the LMT is the cheapest one in the whole group.
@@CCxRC That's what I fiqured. I bet the other ones cost much more besides the axial. I can't wait to grab one. Run it in the snow and build snow jumps lol. I'm gonna pre order one this week through your link đ
They pretty much took extreme overkill and made it 1/10 to get the smt10. Trailing arm monster trucks were a real thing
Didnât know the Losi bottom links set that low.
yeah, they are place more realistically
I am building a SMT 10 two items I still have not sourced is a servo saver and drive shafts do you have any recommendations for a servo saver? I am going to use Jconcepts 2.6 wheels and tires can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance....
I like Freestyle RC servo savers if they are in Stock. Best driveshafts are MIP, but run stock ones on most of mine still. Itâs a good âweak spotâ in the drive train. Most people like the JConcepts Renegade or JCT tires in the blue compound for overall speed and control. I like the JCT because they look more like BKT tires.
THANKS
2:12 Already disappointed that the Kyosho Mad Force/Crusher isn't represented. I've got a Mad Crusher GP and it's what I keep comparing the LMT to; the value just doesn't seem to be there for me. Maybe it's the horizon tax, maybe it's me being an engine nut and the MC being available glow(As mine is; that KE-25 is a ripper!), but I'm just not seeing any reason to get the LMT over the Kyosho chassis.
I looked for a Mad Crusher to buy to add to the comparison...but like most Kyosho stuff, availability is a big issue. Our shop had one on the shelf for a long time and it was the expensive one. I wasn't sure that our league would let them compete with the chain drive transmission, and the wheels definitely wouldn't be allowed to run, so I didn't get it. I went back to buy it after getting the LMT to compare and it was finally sold. I've looked online and couldn't find it in any of the big shops. It's one truck I can't honestly compare.
Will the clod wheels fit the lmt? I got the lmt but the only thing I'm not a fan of is the wheels. Not to fond of the stadium style wheels. Losi should've done better with the wheels in my opinion.
You can put JConcepts Tribute wheels on them. The clearance is tight, but fits. Losi built a race truck. These wheels don't balloon as much and hold the bead better under the power they put in these trucks...and these have bigger hexes that can withstand the abuse such heavy tires put on them. There are a lot of positives to what they did from a function standpoint.
@@CCxRC awesome thanks for the info as I really appreciate it đđ
As much as I want an LMT it's out of my price range. I'm looking at the SMT10. My intent is just to bash with it and maybe mod it as need be. Is it worth it or should I just save up for the LMT?
watch my latest video. I bashed my SMT10s hards. They are still a really solid truck-especially with the new metal gears in the transmission. I do recommend getting metal axle tubes
I'd at least them them for the rears...but you do have to grind a little off the driveshaft to do it. I put them in front and rear. No grinding required for front axle. amzn.to/37WfiPk
â@@CCxRC Good to know. Thanks!
I was try changed my wl12429 with mn99s
Honestly, the Clod is not that much shorter than a Smt10 and lmt10. Your clod is a bit back than the others. I too have a stock Clod, Smt10 and a lmt10 and the sizes are not that far off.
Size wise, how big compared to the Traxxas summit 1/10. I have the summit n interested to see size
Sumits use 1/8th scale everything haha. Waaaaay bigger
Donât have a summit, so I canât say. Pretty sure the summit is larger
Ok thanku
I'll trade you for some closed up diffs out of a bomber... been looking for smt10 open diff replacement...
I donât use the real lockers because I was it âlockedâ with a little slip. I use silicone ear plugs.
I understand your confusion about the scale. What Losi did was advertise 1/8 scale diffs! But it's still a 1/10 truck, but definitely bigger than the Axial.
Depends what you measure to call it bigger. It does come with bigger wheels and tires. The wheelbase and track are similar. Body has been scaled up, but you can change that to make it look different for with truck.
Race clubs need to go ahead and allow center diffs, the trucks handle a lot better with them.
If you compare SMT10 grave digger vs LMT grave digger both the little drivers look the same size. The cage & body are much larger on LMT. So Losi definitely compared it to SMT and wanting to keep (or correct) the 10th scale proportions. SMT small tires & small body, LMT big tires & big body. Long story short: SMT wheelbase is way too long for stock small tires tires & body. And the LMT body is big but itâs crawlers/trail trucks size. Which is ironic because SMT is crawler converted to monster truck and LMT is ground up monster truck. I think LMT will look better parked next to Element RC Enduro Sendero or SCX10-3 Jeep Wrangler. But it will be a freak in monster truck world till it overthrows the stats quo and everyone starts using big scale crawler truck bodies
Well put. There is one cut in the video and thatâs where I said they have been sizing bodies wrong for them. I didnât want to make it a negative on them as they are trying to make them fit multiple scales from Clod to SMT10 and custom chassis. But I do feel they are small when out in the big wheels if you keep the SMT10 length. The LMT is closer to looking proportional to me ( but too wide when compared to the real trucks). This video just wasn't to point out negatives, but to show that it's really the size that many of them are built to be in the Pro-mod class
@@CCxRC I've said the same thing... from the side and front 3/4 the SUD LMT looks just like the real thing (proportions) but the body is about 3/4 inch to 1 inch too wide... I think Losi did a great job
I like video friend đČđš
We're can I get the steering damper for the Smt10 ?
freestyle-rc.com/products/servo-saver?variant=30893759758399 Currently sold out
@@CCxRC appreciate the reply ..Thanks.. love the channel . Keep up doing ur thing..
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What's with the Rc4wd's?
Not sure. Never had one
Did your smt10 have the shortened wheelbase?
No. They are stock size Vanquish trailing arms. The Axial SMT10 wheelbase is 13.9" and the Losi LMT is 13.5"
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Why not the hpi wheely king?
Not readily available and parts are hard to get.
Where did you get shark body.. ??
Jimmy Louis Jr. from Monster Parts makes and sells them. You can reach him Instagram.
Me... lol
No ground pounder chassis
Not anymore. Sold it. Hard to get parts for it.
Your battery plugged in while not in use....
I had just run it. Just made a video to show it compared to other trucks at the time. I was one of the only people to have one and was getting lots of questions about size. I ran that thing 3-4 battery packs a day when i first got it trying to master the backflip to moonwalk.
@@CCxRC yeah I figured just didn't want you to miss it. I've lost 4 batteries so far to this lol. I actually have been debating between smt and lmt. I have a junk ground pounder that's giving me a headache. Your video made me wanna save a few bucks and get the smt however they are now discontinued. I guess my only option for a good one would be lmt now. Gonna take a whole year to pay it off đ
Can't even buy a smt10 anymore
I bought the SMT10 a few years back & it remains to this day, the most disappointing RC I've ever bought.
The first version took way too much money to upgrade it. The new version has steel transmission gears and a faster motor out of the box. Still, it requires about $200 more to make it really good.