Reviewing my custom registered SBR. Almost everything except the receiver is aftermarket parts. I think I've finally achieved the look I was hoping for!
Thank You Sir for the Video I just Bought my CZ Scorpion Plus I Love It Changed out a few things on this one Extended Charging handle as Well as the Trigger Will be Protecting my Shooting finger The Safety Delete Lever on the right side This week Putting a Mlock Flashlight Need a Sling on soon I have not SBR’rd this yet Bought the Brace Waiting to Keep it on Now Just a Pistol, Thanks Kevin
Well said Adam. I explained poorly. I was holding the gun with one hand, supporting it with the forearm of my other arm which was holding a flashlight. A weapon mounted light would have helped with this as well. Thanks for commenting!
TBH I would go with an EOtech. Spent all that money on a custom SBR HD rig, and skimp on the optic ? USA > Imported optics most of the time. Also you need some sort of back up irons or something. And maybe a light ??? Mayor Fuglycool
I know, I skimped. One day I'll get an EOtech for it. I used to have a light on it since it was my home defense set up, but I've since changed, and the light I had on there was gigantic. Once I get more greenbacks I'll put those finishing touches on. Thanks for watching!
Yes. Their are still rules about overall length, but for the scorpion you can have a brace and be classified as a pistol. If you do this you can not use a vertical foregrip.
@@gonefarafield2351 and always check your length of pull Even tho buying a brace for that said weapon should have the correct measurements. Bro you have a beautiful weapon there. I just finished putting my AR9 the way I've always wanted one. Waiting on my tax stamp for my wolf-man can . My Ar9 is gonna be the main host for that can.
I have the very same set up, except I have the CZ Scorpion 3 Plus Pistol. I use my for the very same thing. May I just suggest putting a light on it. Great Video !
My can is a dead air wolf9sd. I wanted something that looked a little wider than the silencerco 9k. I'll think you'll be happy with the SilencerCo and 3 mount adapter. I have their hybrid with a 3 lug and it works great.
I agree. I live in Florida where there’s a three day wait to buy a firearm unless you have a carry permit. I have a carry permit so I walked out of the store that day with my CZ Scorpion 3 + Pistol but to buy a muffler for my Scorpion it took 9 months & $200 tax…how does that make any sense? Seriously nine months for a gun muffler? Some people are ignorant, and I don’t mean that in a rude way, but silencers do not silence a gun like they do in the movies.
Is the MLOK still useable with the DeadAir Wolfman shrouded by the Midwest Industries hand guard? I know, with many hand guards that shroud a suppressor, that it renders the MLOK slots not useable.
How did you fix the Midwest Handguards to the upper? There’s only one screw. With the OEM handguards, the barrel nut would tighten and keep the OEM handguards fixed.
I have a scope from Osprey. Absolutely terrible Chinese garbage. Wasn't aware they ever imported holographic optics from L-3, and I can't seem to find any information online of that. Very interesting.
I'm looking at a very similar handguard/barrel/suppressor setup vs the IA integrated can. There's a lot of considerations for me with the suppressor options, one of them being... what kind of heat buildup do you get on the handguard with this setup?...is it negligible? I'm assuming it isn't much since you didn't mention it and there doesn't seem to be much contact between the can and the handguard, but I'd like to know you experience on that. The IA integrated suppressor I'm looking at gets a considerable amount of heat, necessitating a heat shield for it, which they do have but it blocks the MLOK slots and changes the overall look of the handguard... so I'm considering a K barrel swap and a k can like yours to tuck it in the handguard as much as possible...my goal being to keep the Scorpion as compact as possible.
The heat build up is negligible on my setup. With that being said, there are some things to consider. I got this can because I wanted it to look exactly what I wanted in my mind. The integrally suppressed options are too futuristic and blocky looking for me. Deadair said there was enough clearance using this handguard, and technically there is, but it fits in there so snugly that a tiny bit of the finish scraped off putting it in. I'm glad I have a 3 lug because I would be worried about turning it a lot to thread it in. I was worried as it heated up that it would expand and break against the handguard, but I looked at it after a few magazines and it doesn't look like there's any stress on it at all. Another option is the omega 9k. That has a smaller diameter, but it's longer (at least compared to my can in the K configuration). I wanted my can to be as fat and short as possible coming from the handguard, and I think it turned out pretty good. The only thing I would change is if someone manufactured a rubber tube handguard like the MP5sd has. If someone started 3d printing that for the scorpion I'd be all over it.
@@gonefarafield2351 just ordered my dead air wolfman and considering running the same barrel and handguard, curious exactly how tight of fit the suppressor is in the handguard?
@@kristhibodeaux9524 Extremely. They're essentially the same width. It would have been harder to have standard threads. I have a 3 lug adapter and that helped, because twisting it just to put it on the 3 lug caused a little scuffing on the finish. If you had to thread onto normal threads I would try wrapping it in wax paper or teflon house wrap, although that might make it too wide. I haven't noticed problems getting it hot, but I imagine the expansion makes it impossible to take out until it's cooled down. Looks awesome though :)
@@gtfkt I really appreciate the support. It's crazy to me to think that someone has been following for years. You've made it possible for me to continue doing the things I'm passionate about. Sincerely, thank you.
922r only applies to the import process correct? Once you get it back into your home I think you can put whatever you want on it right? I mean maybe I'm wrong but that's what I always understood...
It was intended to stop import of foreign firearms into the US, but in effect it mostly only affected end users. If it's a registered SBR it has to be 922R compliant even when you have it. You can check out the Gun Collective's Legal Brief covering 922R- they do a pretty thorough job. Thanks for watching and sorry for the delayed response!
Question please? How much clearance do you have inside that handguard with the Wolf? Is there any contact with the can? BTW; that can is not even close to loud, even in shorty mode. Are you shooting standard 9mm or subsonic? Pick up some 147gr subs, it's movie quiet!
Sorry Bob, I must have missed your comment. Yes there is contact with the can on the handguard. I'm glad I got a 3 lug adapter for this because when you put it in, twisting it will scratch off a tiny bit of the finish. But even when the can heats up a bunch, I haven't noticed it expanding at all, so it fits just barely. If the can and the handguard didn't have a finish, they probably wouldn't touch. Since there's so little contact, the handguard stays perfectly cool after shooting 3 mags. This was the fattest handguard I saw for the scorpion, that's why I went with it. I'm guessing if I shot this can in the longer configuration there would be more heat. The subsonics I shoot in this are handloads of mine, using 158 grain berrys plated .357 sized down to .356. and 4.4 grains power pistol
Hello, my understanding was that the scorpion has 16 foreign parts on the list and you need to get that down to 10. So replacing 6 of them gets you 922r compliant. Does that sound right? I just want to be compliant to the best of my knowledge.
If you google 'cz scorpion 922R compliance kit' you can see what they include in their kit to make it compliant. Some of it is silly as you can imagine- like the base plates of the magazines counting as an American part. That'll get you compliant. The ATF doesn't mess around. My CZ is so custom now it's only the receiver that's foreign at this point. I find it crazy that their agents can sleep at night by prosecuting those who forget to put a domestic base plate on their magazine. "Hmm, looks like this person had 11 foreign parts on this gun- better lock them up with someone who robbed a bank." *facepalm* Thanks for watching!
One additional thing to remember about 922(r) is that there is no such thing as a 922(r) compliant rifle. 922(r) only regulates assembly. You can't violate it when assembling the rifle. Possessing a rifle that has more than ten of the listed foreign parts is perfectly legal.
I read the law the ATF’s FAQ regarding 922(r). The law doesn’t state that it’s illegal to possess a rifle with more than 10 of the listed foreign parts. It states that it’s illegal to assemble a rifle using more than 10 of the listed foreign parts. In order to get a conviction, they’d have to prove that you assembled the rifle, not merely that you possessed it. If you buy a pistol and then later possess it as a rifle, then it’s likely they can make the cases that you assembled the rifle. However, if you buy a rifle from someone that has more than ten of the listed foreign pats, it’s perfectly legal. I bought it that way would be a perfect defense.
The NFA is the result of a failed gun grab (pistols specifically) back in the 1930’s by the U.S. Government. Learning the NFA history is extremely relevant to today.
Government hard at work for us. If you want it to take to long, cost to much, and be wrapped up in a ridiculous amount of red tape let the government do it.
Sorry for not getting back to you. Here are the ATF definitions www.atf.gov/file/55526/download There is more than what cwgraham7 said, and it's important to follow the rules exactly since the ATF is completely rigid in their enforcement. If you use a brace, it stays a pistol because it's designed and intended to be fired with one hand. But if you add a vertical foregrip it's no longer designed and intended to be fired with one hand. Whether you shoot it with one hand is up to you, but you should know that the government is salivating to get rid of braces right now.
Also, if you make an SBR you have to follow 922R, meaning you can have no more than 10 imported/non-American parts from a particular list (found in the law).
The gearhead works flapper mag release really gives it that MP5 feeling!
That's still on my list!
Thank You Sir for the Video I just Bought my CZ Scorpion Plus I Love It Changed out a few things on this one Extended Charging handle as Well as the Trigger Will be Protecting my Shooting finger The Safety Delete Lever on the right side This week Putting a Mlock Flashlight Need a Sling on soon I have not SBR’rd this yet Bought the Brace Waiting to Keep it on Now Just a Pistol, Thanks Kevin
Yes sir, glad you love it! It's by far the favorite of most people I take shooting.
You just helped me decide on a handguard and to sbr mine!
You'll love it. It's a sweet combo!
If my hand was shaking holding a pistol with one hand I'd double the point of contact and use both hands.
Well said Adam. I explained poorly. I was holding the gun with one hand, supporting it with the forearm of my other arm which was holding a flashlight. A weapon mounted light would have helped with this as well. Thanks for commenting!
Just bought a Scorpion 3 Plus and you’ve got me heavily considering an SBR and suppressor. Subscribed. 👍🫡🇺🇸
Glad to have you on board!
Thumbs up for the outro music.
Such a good game :)
TBH I would go with an EOtech. Spent all that money on a custom SBR HD rig, and skimp on the optic ? USA > Imported optics most of the time.
Also you need some sort of back up irons or something. And maybe a light ???
Mayor Fuglycool
I know, I skimped. One day I'll get an EOtech for it. I used to have a light on it since it was my home defense set up, but I've since changed, and the light I had on there was gigantic. Once I get more greenbacks I'll put those finishing touches on. Thanks for watching!
It is my understanding that it would stay classified as a pistol by adding an arm brace instead of a stock!
Yes. Their are still rules about overall length, but for the scorpion you can have a brace and be classified as a pistol. If you do this you can not use a vertical foregrip.
@@gonefarafield2351 and always check your length of pull
Even tho buying a brace for that said weapon should have the correct measurements.
Bro you have a beautiful weapon there.
I just finished putting my AR9 the way I've always wanted one. Waiting on my tax stamp for my wolf-man can . My Ar9 is gonna be the main host for that can.
@@MRD0889 sounds like you'll have a fun setup!
Nice build.
Thanks for watching!
Nice setup👍🏿👍🏿
Thanks! I've got it to exactly what I want it to be.
@@gonefarafield2351 is that the 7" pistol version
@@MikeG91925 It started life as a EVO 3 S1 pistol, 7.75" barrel. It now has a 4" barrel
@@gonefarafield2351 I'm about to get a 7" and thinking about added a can also
@@MikeG91925 Nice! You'll love it.
I have the very same set up, except I have the CZ Scorpion 3 Plus Pistol. I use my for the very same thing. May I just suggest putting a light on it.
Great Video !
I definitely need to get a good light. Any recommendations?
Strike industries sells a magwell flare I like it on mine
im thinking about using the SilencerCo 9k and the AC2447 3 Lug Mount Adapter
My can is a dead air wolf9sd. I wanted something that looked a little wider than the silencerco 9k. I'll think you'll be happy with the SilencerCo and 3 mount adapter. I have their hybrid with a 3 lug and it works great.
I agree. I live in Florida where there’s a three day wait to buy a firearm unless you have a carry permit. I have a carry permit so I walked out of the store that day with my CZ Scorpion 3 + Pistol but to buy a muffler for my Scorpion it took 9 months & $200 tax…how does that make any sense? Seriously nine months for a gun muffler?
Some people are ignorant, and I don’t mean that in a rude way, but silencers do not silence a gun like they do in the movies.
It's true. Most people don't know that suppressors are over-the-counter in many parts of Europe.
All you need to consider adding is a light
Definitely. Being able to identify what you're looking at is very important.
Is the MLOK still useable with the DeadAir Wolfman shrouded by the Midwest Industries hand guard? I know, with many hand guards that shroud a suppressor, that it renders the MLOK slots not useable.
The ones on the side are unusable, but you could still use the ones on bottom.
Are all three MLOK slots on each side unusable, or just the front two. It looks like you could utilize the third MLOK slot, closest to the trunion.
what 3 lug adapter did you use in the suppressor? thanks
It's attached to the barrel. It's a HB Industries Micro K barrel with the 3 lug profile.
How did you fix the Midwest Handguards to the upper? There’s only one screw. With the OEM handguards, the barrel nut would tighten and keep the OEM handguards fixed.
It's been awhile, but if I remember correctly, it came with its own mounting block
I have a scope from Osprey. Absolutely terrible Chinese garbage. Wasn't aware they ever imported holographic optics from L-3, and I can't seem to find any information online of that. Very interesting.
Sorry to hear that. It doesn't surprise me since I got mine so cheap. Thankfully mine has worked awesome.
Always wondered how to pronounce CZ!
Yeah... something like that probably lol
How long is the barrel and how long is the hand guard? I’m looking to do a similar build
5.3" K barrel with integrated lugs from HB industries. 6.75" handguard from Midwest Industries. Thanks for watching!
What’s OAL with stock folded?
Funny how sometimes cheap is not a problem. All my eotechs have issues with the boots. Every battery swap is an annoying challenge.
That's a shame. I've always wanted an eotech.
I'm looking at a very similar handguard/barrel/suppressor setup vs the IA integrated can. There's a lot of considerations for me with the suppressor options, one of them being... what kind of heat buildup do you get on the handguard with this setup?...is it negligible? I'm assuming it isn't much since you didn't mention it and there doesn't seem to be much contact between the can and the handguard, but I'd like to know you experience on that. The IA integrated suppressor I'm looking at gets a considerable amount of heat, necessitating a heat shield for it, which they do have but it blocks the MLOK slots and changes the overall look of the handguard... so I'm considering a K barrel swap and a k can like yours to tuck it in the handguard as much as possible...my goal being to keep the Scorpion as compact as possible.
The heat build up is negligible on my setup. With that being said, there are some things to consider. I got this can because I wanted it to look exactly what I wanted in my mind. The integrally suppressed options are too futuristic and blocky looking for me. Deadair said there was enough clearance using this handguard, and technically there is, but it fits in there so snugly that a tiny bit of the finish scraped off putting it in. I'm glad I have a 3 lug because I would be worried about turning it a lot to thread it in. I was worried as it heated up that it would expand and break against the handguard, but I looked at it after a few magazines and it doesn't look like there's any stress on it at all. Another option is the omega 9k. That has a smaller diameter, but it's longer (at least compared to my can in the K configuration). I wanted my can to be as fat and short as possible coming from the handguard, and I think it turned out pretty good. The only thing I would change is if someone manufactured a rubber tube handguard like the MP5sd has. If someone started 3d printing that for the scorpion I'd be all over it.
@@gonefarafield2351 just ordered my dead air wolfman and considering running the same barrel and handguard, curious exactly how tight of fit the suppressor is in the handguard?
@@kristhibodeaux9524 Extremely. They're essentially the same width. It would have been harder to have standard threads. I have a 3 lug adapter and that helped, because twisting it just to put it on the 3 lug caused a little scuffing on the finish. If you had to thread onto normal threads I would try wrapping it in wax paper or teflon house wrap, although that might make it too wide. I haven't noticed problems getting it hot, but I imagine the expansion makes it impossible to take out until it's cooled down. Looks awesome though :)
@@gonefarafield2351 If its not free floating off the rail wouldnt this be a prob for the barrel down the line
Good video. Looks cold in there, is that your shed?
lol, yep it was cold. It's not my shed though. I'm glad someone is still watching these videos :)
@@gonefarafield2351Been watching for many years (your main channel and then this one), your videos are always excellent quality.
@@gtfkt I really appreciate the support. It's crazy to me to think that someone has been following for years. You've made it possible for me to continue doing the things I'm passionate about. Sincerely, thank you.
I really don't understand why people pay $200 tax stamp to SBR their weapons. Just get a nice pistol brace and be done with it.
In this configuration, yes. Originally I wanted a vertical foregrip and that requires an SBR. Thanks for watching!
922r only applies to the import process correct? Once you get it back into your home I think you can put whatever you want on it right? I mean maybe I'm wrong but that's what I always understood...
It was intended to stop import of foreign firearms into the US, but in effect it mostly only affected end users. If it's a registered SBR it has to be 922R compliant even when you have it. You can check out the Gun Collective's Legal Brief covering 922R- they do a pretty thorough job. Thanks for watching and sorry for the delayed response!
Question please? How much clearance do you have inside that handguard with the Wolf? Is there any contact with the can? BTW; that can is not even close to loud, even in shorty mode. Are you shooting standard 9mm or subsonic? Pick up some 147gr subs, it's movie quiet!
Sorry Bob, I must have missed your comment. Yes there is contact with the can on the handguard. I'm glad I got a 3 lug adapter for this because when you put it in, twisting it will scratch off a tiny bit of the finish. But even when the can heats up a bunch, I haven't noticed it expanding at all, so it fits just barely. If the can and the handguard didn't have a finish, they probably wouldn't touch. Since there's so little contact, the handguard stays perfectly cool after shooting 3 mags. This was the fattest handguard I saw for the scorpion, that's why I went with it. I'm guessing if I shot this can in the longer configuration there would be more heat. The subsonics I shoot in this are handloads of mine, using 158 grain berrys plated .357 sized down to .356. and 4.4 grains power pistol
Hello, my understanding was that the scorpion has 16 foreign parts on the list and you need to get that down to 10. So replacing 6 of them gets you 922r compliant. Does that sound right? I just want to be compliant to the best of my knowledge.
If you google 'cz scorpion 922R compliance kit' you can see what they include in their kit to make it compliant. Some of it is silly as you can imagine- like the base plates of the magazines counting as an American part. That'll get you compliant. The ATF doesn't mess around. My CZ is so custom now it's only the receiver that's foreign at this point. I find it crazy that their agents can sleep at night by prosecuting those who forget to put a domestic base plate on their magazine. "Hmm, looks like this person had 11 foreign parts on this gun- better lock them up with someone who robbed a bank." *facepalm* Thanks for watching!
One additional thing to remember about 922(r) is that there is no such thing as a 922(r) compliant rifle. 922(r) only regulates assembly. You can't violate it when assembling the rifle. Possessing a rifle that has more than ten of the listed foreign parts is perfectly legal.
@@bretak74 that goes against everything I've read about it. Where did you read that it's ok to have more than 10?
I read the law the ATF’s FAQ regarding 922(r). The law doesn’t state that it’s illegal to possess a rifle with more than 10 of the listed foreign parts. It states that it’s illegal to assemble a rifle using more than 10 of the listed foreign parts. In order to get a conviction, they’d have to prove that you assembled the rifle, not merely that you possessed it. If you buy a pistol and then later possess it as a rifle, then it’s likely they can make the cases that you assembled the rifle. However, if you buy a rifle from someone that has more than ten of the listed foreign pats, it’s perfectly legal. I bought it that way would be a perfect defense.
@@bretak74 In my case I will not be able to have more than 10 of the parts. Thx
The NFA is the result of a failed gun grab (pistols specifically) back in the 1930’s by the U.S. Government. Learning the NFA history is extremely relevant to today.
Listening to the Heller v. DC argument was extremely helpful to me. www.oyez.org/cases/2007/07-290
Do you shoot in your house
If someone breaks in I might have to. Otherwise, no. I live within city limits and can't.
How far does the tip of the suppressor stick out from the handguard?
I can get an exact measurement if you want, but I believe it's between 1.5-2 inches.
Government hard at work for us.
If you want it to take to long, cost to much, and be wrapped up in a ridiculous amount of red tape let the government do it.
lol pretty much. Thanks for watching!
Yes, but it looks scary therefore it’s gotta be more deadly & dangerous. 😉
No doubt, no doubt :)
It doesn't look scary. It looks like a gun out of a Sci-fi show that goes "pew pew!"
What parts added to this pistol
makes this a short barrel rifle?
The stock and the barrel length under 16 inches is what makes it a SBR. With a brace instead it would remain a pistol
@@cwgraham7 thank you for the reply...
Sorry for not getting back to you. Here are the ATF definitions www.atf.gov/file/55526/download
There is more than what cwgraham7 said, and it's important to follow the rules exactly since the ATF is completely rigid in their enforcement. If you use a brace, it stays a pistol because it's designed and intended to be fired with one hand. But if you add a vertical foregrip it's no longer designed and intended to be fired with one hand. Whether you shoot it with one hand is up to you, but you should know that the government is salivating to get rid of braces right now.
Also, if you make an SBR you have to follow 922R, meaning you can have no more than 10 imported/non-American parts from a particular list (found in the law).
Ya had me until you mentioned you bought a knock off eotech…
lol maybe one day when I have more than lunch money.