Hindu hypotheses, Islamic claims, and psychedelics
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Many individuals presume to comprehend the universe without delving into contrasting viewpoints, even if it means challenging their deeply ingrained beliefs.
Ahmed's adherence to the notion that his God created the universe, based on scriptures he's encountered, raises the question of why he regards his deity as the true creator among the multitude depicted in various holy texts.
*Timestamp*
12:07 - 1st caller Sonu
29:36 - 2nd caller Ray Williamson
38:55 - 3rd caller Aryan Sharma
1:08:21 - 4th caller Top G
1:28:37 - 5th caller Ahmed
For a moment I thought TopG was NRI uncle. But unfortunately he is a victim of NRI uncles.
😂😂😂
And drugs!
Vimoh's classic reaction and that smirk when Aryan was about to start on Qauntum Physics...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Time Stamp: 44:24 to 44:27
You have a lot of patience.
Ahmed's aggressive banter was giving me anxiety and now my sleep is ruined.
Oh I love the 4th caller! And I am looking for his stuff 😂
Nothing to do with the current video but a discussion in the chat. Please don't vote NOTA, instead just stay at home and not waste your and other people time who really want to vote for someone. As NOTA has no consequences at all. ZERO so please enjoy the holiday instead of wasting time!
Well said , the humble souls who stay neutral while the house burns are adding to the fire
How else to convey the message that all of you are equally bad?
Vote Congress that is INDIA ALLIANCE
Hmm
इससे (nota) अच्छा है किसी की जमानत जब्त होने से बचा लो...
NOTA means none of the above are worthy of my vote. It shows I do care to vote and next time bring some better candidates
1:36:30 We don't even know if the universe had a beginning. We can theorize on the state of observable matter in the past, but as for space-time itself, and stuff beyond the cosmic horizon, we can't say with certainty.
Why believers are afraid to say "We don't know"
kyuki god khatam ho jayega
Nice sir ❤
Thanks!
Welcome!
This Ahmad fellow argues like a guy having a bad day in a crowded fish market
I love you, brother. I really appreciate the discussion we've had. I thought it very interesting, and would love to chime in again sometime. I also would love to interview you on my own YT channel, if you'd be interested. I promise to ask you the most interesting of questions, and you're welcome to when l screen them via email before hand.
Merci!
Most welcome!
Sawaal jo mai puchu tabhi toh mai insaan hu,jawabb jo mai dedu,tabhi to mai bhagwaan hu❤❤.
1:01:44 Aryan is confusing Hypothesis with Speculation
I also have query how I can contact
Is living according to the principles good or without any principle???????
Good music
Hi vimoh, i always watch your videos with family. Great food for brain, one suggestion if you improve your editing this could reach millions ❤. Love you 😘
Could u pls point out the cons of Acharya Prashant methodologies ?
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Live chat नहीं दिख रहा🥲
Vimoh sir,how do you deal with the “left out" feeling amongst religious people? I am an agnostic atheist too. The issue is that I have no like minded people in my life. I do not have any issues with people (in my life) practising their religion but I don't feel good when they do not question the ridiculous things in their religion or put their religious claims above science(even for those things jinke unanimous evidences h). Even when I try to ask them,they say “I never thought about it much" or start giving absurd reason to justify the claims of their religion. How do you deal with it? My whole family is atheist gladly. But seeing the condition of religious people around me, I feel how brainwashed someone can be to not understand rational things. I'm currently 19 preparing for NEET and when I talk about the evolution chapter with my friends in comparison to their religious belief,they are like “Hua hoga,kya pta hum bandar se aaye h ya nhi" . All these things make me sad that people even after studying science still do not understand what the subject is trying to teach us. How to deal with this loneliness when you find no like minded people around you?
Develop hobbies. YOLO.
@@pushkardo I do have hobbies. I write poetry. I workout apart from studying. I am introverted and though this happens very rarely but sometimes I also feel like the need of human interaction but when I do interact with people and if such “orthodox" religious conversation happens, I get irritated.
@@khushh.eeeeee hey khushi, i face similar problems, the thing is people around us are simply weak , bcz when they start to question their beliefs on a daily basis makes them feel weak, as they no longer have god to rely on harsh situations so they simply live in their misery, i'm 18 and i'm a commerce student , we can talk about atheism, politics and many similar topics if you want , drop your ig , if not its ok
I’m the same. Although even my family for the most part is theistic and they go to temples and everything. How I deal with it is recognizing their perspective comes from a place of ignorance and stigma about atheism. People (especially grown adults) tend to hold onto things that form the fundamental structure of their belief. This applies to everything. “Can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. Childhood indoctrination is a huge huge part of why these people cling to their beliefs as they are young. I’m pretty sure Vimoh has said this somewhere but I believe it 99% regardless: Children are often only taught “what to think” and expected to figure out the “how to think” themselves. Worst case scenario parents expect the kid to never think for themselves as they plan each and every important thing in their life. But I digress, my point is you have understand how religion is a helluva drug and most people aren’t aware of their addiction. It’s a drug that you can’t just forcefully make people withdraw from, which is why it’s near impossible to sober from.
As someone rightly said, developing hobbies and learning to be your own best friend is the best way to cure loneliness
The hypothesis guy is getting confused between assumption and hypothesis, he’s taking the meaning of hypothesis as an assumption that hasn’t proved but that’s not what hypothesis means.
Vimoh are you interested in my hypothesis that Dehek is a manifestation of a omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient Creator of the universe?
Stream highlight 2:07:30 🦕
Vimoh har baar reh jata h aapse baat karna but if you could answer this question of my
If relegion is created / man made stories then when it all was created first time people knew that these are story not real?? if yes then wo transition kaise hua ki story mante mante log religious stories ko serious lene lag gaye??
Read sapiens.
It has a fairly good explanation for this
@@jhaipi90 yes it is in my list have read few chapters it is very interesting
Thanks
I think when Some authority says something normal people believe that blindly.
If I were to provide my opinion, that was because of knowledge gaps at the time. For example, Indra and Thor are supposed to be the deities responsible for lighting. The civilisation didn't know how the phenomena of lighting took place so they assumed it was a deity doing hocus pocus from above.
1:33:31 😂 nice conversation
Caller has good arguments but jab tum sunne ko taiyar hi nahi to koi kya kare
Good joke.
He is just too good that others have to give up lmao
Any example?
विवेकानंद जी ने ब्राह्मणवाद को कुचलने के लिए बोला है
top G becomes bottom G
I'm willing to argue my case!
22:35 shraman and Buddism same hi hai ya different?
Different
Buddhism has different iterations like theravada, mahayana, navayana etc.
Shraman, i think, is a dead religion but it was similar to jainism/buddhism
Ap ke sath discussion spiritual dunyea ke real log he kar sakte hain ....
Do you believe that aliens like in avtar really live in someplace in universe with advance technology
no
@@vimohlive why
@@Ravish-yj2pn Many reasons are there. Study evolution u would know
They have a very ape like physic similar to humans. Nose just like humans on the face. Walking on 2 legs and culture similar to humans. Like what are the odds really? Because that universe was made by human imagination. So everything feels very human like. Which makes the believe very stupid.
12:00 to 12:04 ignoring question😂
Hello Vimoh could you please please make a video on India's history with atheism. I would love to learn how they arrived at their conclusions. For us its quite easy with all the knowledge we have around us but how would a someone from the BC or eadly ADs reject all that indoctrination. What were their arguements and so on.
Also considering how much the "ancestors fought for our religion" argument is sold, it would really be an eyeopener to many.
europe ke development religious se doore ke wajha se hoai hai ?????
1:51:48 I think he either got nervous after hitchens or the recent coverage of fundamentalist Muslim voices in England. They can be unnerving but will self-implode with their inherent bitterness.
It is difficult to talk to people who don’t want to listen. Ahmed didn’t want to listen properly. Even if one is sure of their position, they should listen to opposing viewpoints. So frustrating to talk to such people.
HADD Theory of God in psychology is the only way the God concept can be explained....
For the guy talking about the evolution of religion......
I am sure enough the amount of evolution religion requires it will be no more considered a religion.....like it evolved in most European countries and handful are religious
This is like ship of Theseus..... would you still call it a religion after the evolution it requires?
I am an atheist ambedkarite, I see no one worthy enough to vote for
The Constitution is in danger and you can't find anyone to vote against?
Vimoh are your family members atheist? Rather what are their beliefs on religion.
Some are. Some aren't.
@@vimohliveWhich religion they follow?
The first caller probably confused change with progress. They’re not the same thing.
I am not agree with you on savmi vivekanand
A hypothesis is based on some observational data.....God can't be a hypothesis...it's just a khayaali pulao...please don't use the word GOD HYPOTHESIS...
Meri tarah 2 bhaje raat ko baithe hn
1:00:50 that made me hungry 🥵 🥵
What is the reason that atheists are not poor and what is the reason that only poor people are religious? Is the religious nature of poor people due to fear?
Why should we de value our ancestors who fought for misogyny by being feminists ?😡
Vote for india instead of NoTa. I hope you all can understand
For whom Rahul Gandhi who has no experience in politics
@ascyborg3794 I agreed But this is the time, we should give a try once again, who knows, do something different or the development will not stop if nothing is done by congress, next time you will change or the growth will remain slow and those who support Rahul may also change mind for rahul and we have no democratic party bad bjp or Congress as both are in number of MPS
If you are reading this then I want to say that, the ignorant will...
Hain? What will the ignorant say?
Yahi ki ignorant question ni krta hai bs accept krta hai
Ohh man that muslim guy was too much aggressive
Saying god exist is as wrong as saying God does not exist. religious people saying god exist without proof and athiest saying god doesn't exist without giving the proof. We neither can deny nor accept. We should be humble enough to say God might exist until its proven.
A large number of atheists don't say that god doesn't exist. They simply reject the claim that god exists because there's not enough evidence for that claim.
Madrasa educated guy,
The top G guy was waste of time
I think he got into a similar discussion with Matt Dillahunty also, that too recently...
@@PradeepChandran_RPC video link?
2:07:37 vimoh you say religion being ported in young minds of children is the worst thing to do to them, which I agree
And then at 2:00:54 you think uplifting ban on funding of madarsas is a good decision?
I know its electoral move and there are temple running schools also but madarsas are the elephant in the room here and there must be a start, no?
I don't think you can have "better learning conditions" where religion is the main focus
I am literally paying taxes for funding schools to brainwash childrens into islam
Banning religious indoctrinatioh good. Using that a an excuse to take action against only one religion. Not good.
@@vimohlive They are not taking religious indoctrination as a excuse
They are taking secularism as a excuse.
My point is jo bhi excuse ho achi chiz to ho rahi hai
@@prince-hb8qk If their excuse was secularism, they would be against all religious teaching.
@@prince-hb8qk I could be wrong but it seems you have problems specifically with one kind of religious teaching. It is difficult to take someone seriously unless they are opposed to all kinds of religious teachings from all faiths. Also Doing apparent ‘good things’ for wrong reasons isn’t good at all.
@@jojo_ranjan Yes you are very wrong
I have no hard feelings for any religion in specific
My point is jab funding sirf minority religious institutions ko hi milti hai to ban bhi to unhi ko karenge na🤦
Jinki milti hi nhi hai(fortunately) unki funding kaise band karde?
Why is Acharya Ptashant a baba.
I mean if he shaved his beard then will he be considered non-baba?
Also, Bhagwat Gita has varna mentions but it is also clearly mentioned that it is Guna based.
Si how can it be wrong.
Now don't come up with wrong translations each and every oldest commentary on Bhagwat Gita say its Guna based Varna.
Now, I am not denying the fact that Caste Based Discrimination exists, but atleast we should not do intellectual dishonesty.
Are Gunas by birth?
@@vimohlive both, by birth and and it can be developed further too.
Take for example if out of 100 people 20 are good in maths or 20 have great aptitude for maths inspite of similar circumstances so its by birth or as per modern science its genetics. But another 20 people are there if given a little push or with some training they will be close to the 1st 20 then they developed that aptitude.
But some people won't be able to develope the aptitude for maths even after proper opportunity, its also possible that those last 20 in maths are great in some other subject or may be sports.
So its a mixture of both natural ability and also abilities developed with hardwork.
Now the main caviate is what the Brahmins did wrong is that they stopped the fluidity of this varna system that people's varna can change too which lead too the downfall of our society too. Obviously they did this in order to remain superior.
It was also affected in the Islamic Rule.
There are exception casses too like The Shankaracharya in his life gave the upper varna status too some of the Shudra Varna people and even lowered the high varna people to the shudra varna ......I know such cases are ikka dukka😅.
@@vimohlivethere is one good video in this specific topic
Title of the video:
The Three Gunas in spiritual life a practical guide by Swami Medhananda, june 20, 2023
You might like it or might get bored of it.
@@sumitdutta7043 If guna is by birth and caste is based on guna, then caste is by birth.
@@vimohlive
I already answered both.
I also defined what it meant by birth.
Why are you reducing my answer to just birth.
Its a kind of strawman you are doing.
I explained the whole thing about the innate abilities of every human which is a fact that diversity of abilities exist reason can be anything in Hinduism people say the reason is past life. Perhaps most of the scientific community give genetics as the reason. Whatever the reason is "PEOPLE ARE BORN UNEQUAL" whether we like it or not but what our society's goal should be too make the people with less abilities to be as par with others.
I also told that the gunas can changed/altered too (you deliberately missed this line in your reading of my comment) by doing proper karmaa and hardwork.
The main point is Gita don't promote varna based on birth. The people who are born in other varnas(as per birth based caste system) can have the aptitude of higher varna so it should be olaced there.
This is as per Gita. Rest of the scriptures may be promoting birth based scriptures but in the Gita it is not the case.
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@@eternallyyyyyu sanghi Or mulla?