Saxon Hoard - Saxon Hoard A Golden Discovery
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- Extract from: BBC News
Marion Blockley, an archaeologist, wonders if there is a clue in a lament written in around the 9th Century that describes a 7th Century battle and raid in the Midlands.
Did warriors ransack a settlement and leave with captured treasure?
"It's possible as they fled that they may have taken the hoard with them and buried it, hoping to come back but sadly they were killed," Ms Blockley said.
"I'm not saying it's true, but you know, it may well be."
'Significant items'
The Staffordshire Hoard is made up of thousands of items, including pieces of weaponry and dozens of ornate sword pommels, so could they have been part of a king's collection that had somehow fallen into the wrong hands?
Ms Blockley said nearby Tamworth had been a royal treasury.
She said kings used to receive gifts of "significant items of weaponry" which they would then redistribute to their favourite warriors.
Some say a key part of solving the mystery of the hoard could lie in where it was found near what was an important route between the Midlands and London, Watling Street.
There is no better and healthier escape, than Discoveries like this! I could watch these videos all day!
I met the finder (Terry) at a car boot sale at Muckley corner, he's a lovely, down to earth guy,,, I wish him well.
Made me laugh when the farmer said he didn't particularly like him
@@markmitchell450 He didn't like him as he tried to claim the lot, even though he and Terry had a written agreement to share whatever he found, Terry gives them out to all landowners before he goes detecting, it's pretty standard metal detecting/treasure hunting stuff.
@@scrummydoo That's very smart! I can just imagine the decades long lawsuits that must often result from these finds! Metal detectorists and landowners should all take note of this fact!
I live only a few miles from where the hoard was found and only a few metres from Watling Street. I remember queuing for hours to see the hoard at the Birmingham museum a few years ago and I was amazed at the beauty and intricate carvings and inlayed garnets and jewels. It still remains one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen.
I hope to see it someday. It's amazing
Same here, but I know I never will. That's why I lament the fact that this find and Sutton Hoo both have not got good images of the whole find anywhere online that I've been able to find. Just small bits and peices here and there.
And the small collections of images (or videos) that I have seen are of such extraordinary beauty that I want so much to be able to see the whole thing (of each individual find) along with a complete description of all that is known about them!
Maybe I can find good books on each find. But that would no doubt cost a lot, as books are horrendously expensive, and I can't afford that kind of thing anymore. 😭😢😭
As an ex soldier I can say the only time you would bury something important and deny and enemy getting it is if you're about to get overrun/ captured or surrender , I think this is what might of happened either during an ambush or attack where they weren't expecting it
Clearly must have been hidden buried and either not able to relocate or the person never returned
The fact its all broken deliberately is the real puzzle
If it was battlefield loot that could explain it but doesn't quite fit
An excellent idea!!
Yeah maybe it was tucked away to be traded later with the invaders for better treatments or return of lands. But the new ruler didn't care, and the guy was watched so they could never retrieve it.
Pretty sure because back in the day, there were no banks so most people buried they’re valuables
what a load of old tosh ex-soldier. You'd bury to hide from ayy probable theft. No banks then. Why would you bury gold when you're about to over run? It's currency so when you flee from being over run you got influence !. " As Soldier"
I am very pleased to say that I live 2 miles up the road from where the hoard was discovered, anyone who has the opportunity to view the finds will find it extremely worthwhile.
Start digging
King Tutankhamon. Egyptian pharao who died 17 - 18 years? He has nothing to do with Saxon UK.
well done you !
U have the same name as my mother . But it was speeld difrent 1❤ darling
It just amazes me how todays jewelry makers struggle to make such things with all the modern tools. How did the Saxons? Fascinating.
It isn't that they would in anyway struggle to make jewelry like that, it is that most jewelry is produced for the mass, cheap, market.
Exactly. Back then you could take time to create a piece…..today the mantra is “time is money” Even a popular craft jeweller has to carefully weigh up if it’s financially worth their while to create more complex pieces, because once you get to a certain point, you cannot realistically charge enough to cover your time and expenses, and you cannot work like that for long.
I really liked the farmer on whose land the hoard was found. I love that despite his wealth he continues to farm (that's passion & work ethic!), and I love that the 'lucky' farmer is filmed at 9:11 standing in front of a rainbow. He's a hard-working man & deserves his good fortune.
Some people are greedy for more money
@@westaussie965 The farmer certainly was, according to later reports he had a major falling out with the guy who found it because the farmer thought he should get all of the reward money and tried to make the finders life miserable over it
@@wynwilliams6977 In a comment above someone who met the finder, named Terry, said that Terry has a standard contract that he always signs and makes the landowners sign too, stating they will split the value of anything found 50/50, and that that was what happened here.
If that comment above is correct, it doesn't mean that what you said is wrong. I believe you that the farmer tried to make Terry's life miserable over it, but if he did sign that contract, he would not have been able to be very successful. I guess Terry had educated himself well beforehand. He probably knew of other detectorists who had been detecting without a written agreement, and had gotten ripped off by greedy landowners, so decided to protect himself. All detectorists and landowners should make note of this and protect themselves, because I can imagine some lawsuits could take years or even decades to decide!
And they would be at the mercy of the judge's sentiments! We saw about 2 years ago in Johnny Depp vs The Sun, just how crooked some British civil court judges can be, and how greedy for bribes (and other enticement, including sex) they can be. That judge was one the biggest crooks I've ever heard of! And the system then denied Depp leave to appeal the decision. So we should all take a lesson from these things and protect ourselves. It's an awful shame that we must, but still, we must.
I lived within walking distance of the hoard for 23 years of my life , just amazing !
dig up your back yard! i know i would! lol...or at least metal detect
nicolebuttery1234 . My neighbour found a Bronze Age axe head in his back garden just the other side of our garden fence. Just my luck. He thought it was an unusual shaped stone and showed it to me and I said it was an axe head. His grandson took it to school and showed his history teacher who showed it to someone from the Birmingham museum and he ended up in the local paper and the axe head ended up in the museum. If I’d had kept my mouth shut it would have ended up in his rockery with all the other ‘stones’ he found in his garden. Not that I’m bitter or anything lol as I had found several old coins in my own garden
That's mad if only
@@nunnyd69 did he get money 💰 for it, a few thousand pounds?
Sigh... I really wish this nonsense about average life expectancy would stop. An average life expectancy of 30 does not mean that most people only lived to around 30, it means that there was a very high infant mortality rate. If a child dies shortly after birth and someone else dies at 60, it results in an average life expectancy of 30.
Yes exactly. Average
Yes average. But there were a lot of deaths in battle. And even more deaths from the slightest type of infection. Those pre-antibiotic and pre-medical times were not a good time to be alive.
+ all the warring!
I agree. Sigh
The average age of death in the UK is 82 (or was until the lockdowns and mystery jabs). So if the average suddenly went down by 52 years I'd say something was terribly wrong. Wouldn't you?
Watch Time Team..King of Bling. Yet another amazing discovery of Anglo-Saxon treasure found by a routine archaeological examination of a road widening site. Fabulous episode. Available on CZcams.
Another discovery
This is the same site same discovery
The motorway was the road widening
Although the road itself had nothing to do with the find it was found quite far away from road itself
Time team did a show about this find
This is just a different show about the same thing
I shall, thanks for the information!
If you're patient enough there are beautiful close ups of the workmanship at the end.
the workmenship on these is increadible the sword must have been stunningly beautiful who ever made that was a true master craftsmen
Certainly is detailed
This hoard's artist's work looks like the same artist of the Sutton Hoo hoard. Makes one wonder if these were gifts to other kings or nobles from Mercia's nobles, or Germanic Celtic tribes, or ?. Beautiful & haunting mysteries in the UK.
I came to comment the same thing. There seems to be a sword grip in there too
I agree entirely.
Life expectancy AT BIRTH was 30. That number is distorted by what we would think of massive childhood mortality. Once people were out of their early childhood years, the average person lived into their 40s and 50s.
We live until our 80's now - just goes to show what peace, hygiene, and creature comforts can do for folks. 😊
@@sammy2tyres But many people's lives now are just extended decades of suffering. For my dad, from age 80 to 94 were just hell, and 70 to 80 was pretty empty too. I plan to go much earlier, and I've had it planned for decades.
@@cattymajiv You never know, once you get there you may find it's worth staying around a little longer... Especially if you have grandkids. I should imagine they would give a person reason to live.
This is amazing ! Just to think i lived in Lichfield for 23 years of my life . This gold was in the ground all the time just waiting to be found .
I always enjoy Starkey when he's talking about history.
I think that there needs to be younger people that aren't so posh and academic actually talking about and engaging younger people. There are too many Oxbridge academics that get far more air time than others that would be just as, if not more passionate and Intetesting.
@@RJHail Agreed, as long as they're qualified.
I have just been searching through records of my house due to it's age and then I thought about getting a metal detector then I came across information about Staffordshire Hoard, can;t wait to watch this documentary. I hope I find something like this too! I can dream lol!
What a wonderful find. So much for those historians who believe that art and craftsmanship and civilisation only arrived with the Normans!
TheBrigantii what historians believe that art civilizations and craftmanship only arrived with the Normans? Easy answer there, none!
@@FredBTs - the approach is to set up a straw man ( either thru ignorance or contrivance ) and then to knock it over.
The ignorance isn't a "bad" thing - it's just not knowing something that, with a little research, could be known...
@@FredBTs👍🤣🤣🤣
@@FredBTs I believe the OP is a disciple of Graham Hancock. According to GH, no archeologist or associated scientist or expert, can be correct or honest.
GH hates them all because they rightfully dislike him, for teaching huge swathes of gullible Americans that everything ancient in the whole world was made or built by aliens who based themselves in Atlantis, but who left not a single shred of evidence anywhere. According to GH, the aliens built the ziggurats and all the pyramids, in the old and the new world, as well as the Nazca Lines, and Gobeckli and Terehan Tepes, as well as the Indus Valley and Chinese civilisations, and every other ancient thing.
Since he has now found huge fame, we find some of his fans in every comment section related to history videos. In the case of videos on Sumer and Akkad (modern day Iraq), Sudan, Egypt, Israel, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, and neighboring areas, S America, Mexico, India, China, etc, the comments are so full of those people that any sensible conversation is completely blocked by their nonsense! So It's no surprise that this one is following GH's lead in trying to discredit the true experts. GH has no facts to fight with, so insults are his childish weapons, and he has trained his followers to do the same.
Before being buried the hoard was broken up into pieces. Why into pieces? A question the archeological pundits to-date have made all sorts of suggestions but really cannot answer, but it is a fact that the hoard was found only a mile from a village called: Hammerwick. Now, 'wick' is often added on to a name of a location where a markets were held in Anglo Saxon times. 'Hammer' has an obvious relationship to the blacksmiths and goldsmiths trade. So it is possible that the hoard was buried pending negotiations at the village but the merchant by some misfortune could not return. However, to date no Anglo Saxon remains have been found in the village to confirm this, but as at that time it is likely all buildings were wooden and we are talking about 1400 years ago all traces have long gone. The hoard is for sure the scouring by the winner of a battlefield possibly by Penda the pagan King of Mercia from 632 to 655 AD. In 632 AD he defeated the Christian King of Northumbria. Christian Kings at that time were known to have their Bishops carry the Cross into battle and the broken cross in the hoard had indications that it had been designed to sit on an altar table but had been modified to be attached to a pole. All interesting stuff!
9:10 there's a rainbow behind the farmer....he needs to keep digging.
I love the fact that while he was talking about luck at 9:10, over his shoulder you can see a rainbow! Coincidence?
David Young *
"I didn't particularly like him"!!!! Bloody cheek!!!
I live not far from where this was found. I also went with my son to go and see the finds at Birmingham. It was fantastic, the colour of the gold and the jewels were beautiful. As one of the people says in the vid he's a jeweller, Birmingham has a fantastic Jewellery Quarter, where you can go with any design for any sort of jewellery and they will make it. Very skilled crafts men and women.
@@franksmith7247 Not Robert Plant, but I did know a relative of one of the members of ELO, nice bloke.
I envy you living in Europe for that reason... So much history everywhere
Deborah Hallam Been a while since you posted this I realize. I was living in England down in Cornwall for three years when I was stationed over there with the British royal Air Force. I have not been back to England for a long time, since 1987 in fact. But what a beautiful country and what an amazing place. I wish I had even more time to have traveled around there. My family has history there as on my father's side, one relative originated from Devon area, born in the 1620s, then immigrating here to the United States where he lost his life in the 1660s off the shores of Newfoundland during a bad storm with one of his sons. One son survived, and that's why I'm here today. It is so fascinating. Enjoy seeing these artifacts coming to light, and seeing the right thing done with them. Always wanted to research more about my family but it probably would be difficult to find much information that long ago
@@70stunes71 Thank you for your lovely response about how much you enjoyed your time in England. I've got family in Exeter, Devon, beautiful part of the Country. As for tracing family us Brit's have always been very good at writing everything down. As for your family history, if you can find what part of Devon he came from, you can trace back through to even what ship he sailed over on. You don't even have to travel over to Britain, the British National Library in London has so much information on how to trace your family history. Like I said we write, record and store everything. Hope this helps, and again thanks for your lovely reply.
DJA Hallam ill give u my email, easier chattin there, if u wish..if not it's ok . cga724@gmail.com . Our family came from Ugborough, in Devon . Of course, i didnt find that out until after i had left England did i ? Lol . Stationed in Cornwall at RAF St m a w g a n, I was there for three years exactly to the day. Of course I went up into Scotland, yes we have family history and Scotland also, but the English Countryside... May perhaps you could understand this, but it was almost like a spiritual homecoming. I felt like I was home it was an odd thing but everywhere I went I just loved it. The little shops in the small towns, the fish and chip shops which I miss terribly LOL, it just seemed it everywhere I went I was home. Always wanted to go back. But the town I mentioned in Devon our relative was born in the 1620s and he died tragically with one of his sons off the coast of Newfoundland. One son survived as I mentioned and that one moved down into Connecticut of course this is very long ago. But still very important in my mind. I really don't think that anyone that has went to England and went out into the countryside could ever be unhappy enjoying your time there. There is so much I miss. But home is home also and living in Michigan I am definitely a northerner as far as the climate goes the British climate agreed with me perfectly although I did miss seeing the snow the years I was over there I had only seen it a few times.
Very nice documentary, but I would like to hear the names of those who have been at the center of finding all these treasures. For example at approx 12:17 it is said that 'a local archeologist dug the Sutton Hoo mound. It was so hard to name that guy? Also, the landlord who paid for the digs should be mentioned. Without them and their efforts, we would not have material for nice history documentaries today. The site was first excavated by Basil Brown under the auspices of the landowner Edith Pretty. We should not forget their names.
After watching the film ,'Dig', it was said that Basil Brown , wasn't acknowledged until recently . A shame isn't .
I had the pleasure of recently giving a talk about Rædwald/Sutton Hoo. Basil Brown and Edith Pretty were front and centre, outstanding people. I adore the fact that Edith Pretty obtained ownership of the artefacts at an inquest and then promptly gave that up by donating them to the British Museum. I think she was fed up of other people telling her what to do and instead wanted to act, most generously, with her own agency.
There are more frustrating questions than answers with this. The connection to Sutton Hoo finds is obvious but what is that connection? Did one kingdom make the gold items and the other kingdom loot them? Where did the gold come from? Were the Hoard pommels and the Sutton Hoo pommels built by the same person or maybe the same shop? Were they imported, perhaps from Scandinavia? I guess these questions are just a part of the overall mysteries about the Anglo Saxon period.
I thought the same thing! They look like they where from the same craftsman who made the Sutton Hoo pieces! Has anyone thought that too?
Many have noticed that! I hope some day we might get an answer!
@@heeza12oclock39 Many people have noticed that! I hope some day we might get an answer to that question!
THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU'VE FINALLY FOUND MY HOARD. NOW MAY I HAVE IT BACK.
HAVE FUN GARE
It irritates me when they tout the average life expectancy in places and periods where there is/was an extremely high rate of infant mortality. Stating it in this way makes it sound as though scarcely anyone survived beyond the age of thirty!
+Jenny G. YEH EVEN KINGS LIVED FAR BEYOND 30.IN THOSE DAYS WITH THEIR UNHEALTHY DIETS LOADED COLESTERAL AND ALIKE !....////
The Common Man or Soldier didn't live much past 30. Constant warring between kingdoms and Viking Raids, poor diet, parasites from improperly cooked foods, rotten teeth with infected gums, unsanitary conditions, various diseases and little access to real medical treatment. Doctors (as bad as they were) would only cater to the Noble Born or the Wealthy.
Old man: Wow...you really have no idea what you're talking about do you???
Do the research. Here's a start for all the wankers: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/241864.stm
Old man: Nice link...you fucking dolt!!!
These look amazingly like the ones found at Sutton Hoo. Has anyone considered that it might be loot grabbed by grave robbers from that site, picked up during the robbery that happened in the 1600's or perhaps the one that happened in the 1800's, then hastily buried by the thieves who were somehow never able to retrieve it.
The camerawork is infuriating - we never every really get clear views or indeed simple descriptions of the pieces that have been dug up. The viewer has to work with tracking close-ups that drift in and out of focus.
It must be awful for you, tolerating such poor quality media, which you pay nothing for and is available at your convenience 24/7.
@@brad4908 . . . There are thousands of things available for which we pay nothing and which is available for our convenience 24/7 that does NOT appear to have been shot either for a cyclops or by one. The camera work here is abysmal. Face it.
@@pricklypear7516 thank you!
@@brad4908 It must be awful for you, tolerating someone commenting on the annoying style of some of todays camerawork in documentries.
Let me guess. Your camerawork guy?
I wish they spent more time showing the treasures rather than talking heads
The British Museum has them and they have a youtube channel. I love the curator's corner.
Well said.
@@K33N4N1 white supremacist loser
@@charlesmiv3842 how did you work that one out fella? Perhaps the problem lies in your own ignorance as to what his profile picture represents. You think you know but you don't. You know shit. You're just a small mouth on youtube
@@GhostsOfTheAngelcynn the profile picture is a dead giveaway. It’s a common tattoo on the aryan brotherhood prison gangs too. General scumbaggery use that symbol
Multimillion dollar find? No it's literally priceless! Sold off piece by piece it would bring billions from collectors. The finders should have been compensated ten times the amount given
Well. They accidentally happened upon it
@@charlesmiv3842 No. That implies they just stumbled over it in an alley.
@@lechatel they did. A random farmer happened upon it.
Fantastic, to hear more and more of my heritage.
Agreed!
The Staffordshire hoard will reveal more of Saxon history.
The blades are missing simply because they grabbed what they could of the important materials i.e Gold and bent everything to fit in a small hole then burying it. With the intention of returning to retrieve the Gold. As you already know, they all perished before returning.
These treasures look very much like The Sutton Hoo ship burial. The same garnets and gold settings. Watch Sutton Hoo video.
Do hope the host was kept warm by his fur hoodie throughout!! Great fun, and great information!!
I commented on that! As a Canadian I find it hilarious! But I am all for comfort, even if it is a bit funny!
The main take-away? Britain has too many archeaologists, and too few dentists.
Lol
The British (and the entire rest of the world) are not as shallow as Americans are (and obviously you too.) They don't spend their very last penny keeping up with the Kardashians.
I know some people could take better care of their teeth, but I'm glad they don't all have shockingly white teeth that you just know the people poisoned themselves to get. And we know for sure the Americans did poison themselves with peroxide and other chemicals to get that shockingly white look.
So if that bright white look is absent in a lot of the UK, it's ok with 99.99% of the world. We are not shallow enough to care about that.
I hate when people quote lifespan when they mean average age of death from birth. Historians really ought to start presenting lifespan as something that adults did not dread in the Middle Ages. Your chances of living to 60 were good if you made it to adulthood even in Saxon times.
what an absolute nightmare of an existence for the people living during the days the hoard was buried .
Not really as bad as you think and the overwhelming population never got affected by wars at that time
@@SandileNgwenya-gv7nx Not so! In most places the population was very heavily affected! Those who could not fight were taxed very heavily! Food became scarce as well as many other commodities. The upper classes put great pressure on the lower ones!
No matter how many times I see variations of this story, I find it exciting. Some new things in this one (as "theKoshmeister notes). Yes he better like him now.
Were the artifacts mangled by years of agricultural plowing??
No
He claims, that the "Anglo- Saxons" are Germans. The reality is that there was no Germany at that time, there was a Saxonia, and north of the Ejder River there was the Limes Danorum, where the Frankish monks wrote : "the danish toungue" is spoken. The region of Anglia in the saga age streched from the Ejder river to north of the city of Kolding in present day Jutland. The name is preserved in the eastern region of Slesvig between the present day border to Denmark and the land of Holstein.
You should get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself. There were many German tribes. And the Danes...are Germanic also, as well as the rest of Scandinavia. As they were settled by Germanics. Sweden namely by the Jutes. Check out the languages while your at it. All Germanic. Even English is a Germanic language..
Prove me wrong...
This is a great film . I've seen it before , just to think i lived down the road at Friary Avenue Lichfield between 1963 and 1968 and all this treasure was not far away . I have driven past this field 100's of times over the years !
You only had to twitch once and follow a hunch. I am sure your self-belief is shaken.
I just watched anotoher program about ship burials in Norway and there was a helmet very much like the Sutton Hoo helmet, and some other things also very much like the Sutton Hoo artifacts. So some of these ship burialsand artwork could be Norwegian.
These treasures are known as the Anglo Saxon hoards. It is assumed that most of the Anglo Saxons came from Germany and the surrounding areas, which includes the Nordic countries, otherwise known as the Scandinavians or Vikings. So yes you are correct. There is a very strong connection.
It reminds me of Beowulf. I know that the locations are different, but I could see Hrothgar giving gifts like these.
Utterly fascinating! More please!
Yes! I'm so proud to be English..... Our ancestors were great. With blood like this flowing in our veins, no wonder England has had such a huge impact on the world!
claude bawls demons indeed
Wow tell us all how you really think.
yes those bastard normans let in jews our misfortune
anglo Saxons were the chief makers of england
***** Go on...
That farmer is a good salt of the earth sort. Glad he got a share, and remained humble about it.
They only state that the farmer received a share, or his share. I wish they would have made it clear that it is 50/50. I assume then that the farmer received $1,600,000 as well. I think the UK has a good arrangement. Landowners are more likely to allow metal detectors on their property if they know they’ll share in the treasure 50/50. In America there have been many lawsuits of landowners having to sue the treasure hunter or even the State in which treasure is discovered has sued claiming somehow that the treasure should belong to the state. Here in the US I think much that has been discovered never goes public. Might even be melted down just for the market price of Gold or Silver because there are no good iron clad rules and different by state. 50 states. I think that the UK is assuring that they end up with historic treasure by rewarding those involved.
All his false modesty about taking credit.
The truth is that the find was made despite him rather than with any help from him.
@@badapple65 How do you know it was 50/50? I remember hearing the farmer was given something like 100,000 or some such pathetic amount.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 the finder and the land owner share the full value of any treasure with a 50/50 split in the Uk 👍🏻
@@badapple65 By all measures, the US is a gigantic mess!
Thank you so much for posting this!
Oh to be an archeologists on that dig! It would have been so exciting!
If the hoard was spread over several meters of ground then it must have been dispersed by farm machinery over the centuries , why didn't someone find a piece over such a huge span of time ?
Maybe they did, sold it or melted it
Thank you for posting; fascinating, the comments make great reading too.
Right, this is excellent. You must agree that some comments sound like the people making them live in the twilight zone, ooohooh.
I think you are right , the hoard was lifted when the motorway was constructed and spread over Freds field , that is why it was found over several meters of land . It does seem strange it was not spotted earlier , but i suppose it was moved by heavy machinery and was within the clay earth and just not seen . Thankyou .
No, that area had nothing to do with the motorway
@@wynwilliams6977 Exactly right!
I’m from the United States. Although my forebears were Irish (I think) I feel more continuity with the Anglo-Saxons by virtue of my culture in the United States.
There is no culture in the United States just silly clubs.
@@ianwilkinson4602 we speak English, our laws are English derived, our sensibilities related to food and aesthetics are English derived.
@@ftx453 What I mean't to say was that the United States has no culture of iis own, everything is borrowed from somewhere else as you say. you are also influenced by all the other races that make up your population the same as here, many of those races that came from Britain and Europe are the only ones with any cultural ties, the same goes for all the other ethnic groups too. You are a very young country and as yet there is no actual American culture, there is a semblance of one, but it could fracture so easily as it is beginning to do. The difference with Britain and European countries is that they were founded a very long time ago,so their cultures are also very long standing, the Kingdom of England was established in 987 AD, the original "English" language was brought here by settlers from an area of north west Europe sometime between the 5th and 7th centuries AD from an area which now encompasses parts of Germany, Denmark and Holland, it took a further 400 years or more to become what we now know as English. You have a long way to go, good luck.
@@ianwilkinson4602 American Culture is a schismatic version of English Culture. From 1607 to the present.
Hence, there is a culture here. It was carried here during colonial days by colonists from England.
@@ftx453 Now you are just being silly and racist in a number of ways, the English were only a part of the influx of countries that made up your population, are you claiming that the Irish, the Scots, and the Welsh are English? perhaps they spoken English but they were far from being English. By your name you are not of English Heritage either, so how could you be part of English culture? They were British not English, Dutch and German colonists were also involved, but it was english speaking Protestants that held sway, presumably because the other races present had little english, so english became the language of America, but your "culture" has too many influences to count. " Share a common language" I wonder what the nationals thought of that, and don't forget many of the British and Irish colonists did not use english as their first language if at all. Anyway this is almost pointless, so fare thee well American cousin.
Still amazing after almost 3 years
The hoard
This original post was made TWELVE YEARS AGO! Wow!
I met TERRY HERBERT today , great to talk to him about his find in 2009 .
Whilst i waited to see the Hoard and never got to view it.
It is scrap metal on the way to be recycled but never got there. Now questionabley probably never will.Who ever took it and buried it probably didnt have the same appreation that people have today of it workmanship and beauty.
If there is over 60 sword pomeles. Its a deliberatly degraded collection. Which says something in its self.
Like ive got something personel and identifyable to someone .
Is it not the poem where the salt comes from in Kent which relates to a Saxon Lord who thinks hes younger than he is with raiding Vikings he trapped on an island.But couldnt resist the challenge of individual combat. Sad but people.
What i find incredable is the splendor it portrays of those that would have worn such things.
Are well might get round to seeing it on a rainy day.
Why can't anyone just show the artifacts? The hand worn sword hilt was shown for about 2 seconds. Ridiculous
I can't help but comment, the bent up items may have been hit by a plow as they were found in a farm field. Hope they have taken that into consideration.
These are some of the best archaeologists in the world what the fuck do you think 😂😂😂
Larry the items have been being from pressure, it a plough had mangled them the metal would show scratches , fractures , tears etc
What they didn't remark on is that there where 90 pummels from the end of swords. From what they said a sword was a thing of great value and the jeweled pummels would have come from very good swords. Yet who ever took these items weren't interested in the valuable swords and just pride the pummels off and left the swords. This tells me that they weren't taken as a spoil of battle as the sword was of great value to warriors. Person or persons that took these items needed them to be light, concealable and transportable which swords are not. The items were taken in great haste and had not value to the person for their beauty nor did the cross have any significance. The value of the gems, silver and the gold was the object of the thief. It was a thief of opportunity, meaning the objects were the property of a king or the butty after a battle in which the items were stored together, this person knew the store place and had access to it. He may have even killed the persons on guard. The swords were to large to take away, he was in great haste bending the items to fit the smallest space possible for easy transport. He buried the items because of the risk of being found out. He may have even returned to the place of the thief and pretend to be an innocent bystander.
A lot easier to hide and rework gold into something that won;t be recognized, wrought iron and simple steel is a lot of work
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@@lindamclean8809 learn to be kind. That’s way more important in this world.
I am suprised nobody has concluded this was a spoils of a horrible battle. It is already pointed out the area was not saxon territory
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So very interesting. Could someone tell me from which piece of music the fragment which starts at 40:23 originates? It's beautiful and would love to hear it in it's entirety.
I think when they went to battle they would just remove their fancy golden ornamental pommels etc and use regular ones instead.
I wouldn't want to be swordfighting with gold and gemstones either. That would be a disadvantage that can get you killed.
So yeah there must have been a battle involved which was lost, upon which an attempt was made to hide valuables from the victorious side.
On the contrary, they would have gone into battle gold blazing to inspire their men and keep up morale, and to prove they were worthy of being kings.
As a Canadian, it's hilarious to see the host (John Snow?) wearing a zipped up parka (winter jacket) on a beautiful sunny day when we would wear at most a sweater (cardigan)! It's obviously nowhere near the freezing point! But then again, I'm all for comfort. So it's ok with me, even if it is a bit funny! 🤣😂🤣
The Dark ages means we know little of that time but it was in many places far richer that today.We live in a lesser place in may ways
but where were these pieces made? Just because they possessed them doesn't necessarily mean they created them.
It would be helpful to be able to view artifacts with a sense of scale.
Something that is missed by the producers who get to view the objects in person.
"I'm glad,that they have discovered,ancient history,on English/British soul,real silver and gold,worth it's weight. . .If they as citizens of the area are inspired about this,there is a good reason to be proud,loosing perhaps personal depression:Their mood of excitement,I'm glad about"9-24-2021'
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They are bent and torn as if the iron of the sword was left,I believe the owners were dead or had to pay tribute whatever happened it happened quickly and not carefully.Then in a very defensive manner was buried.The people who buried it were either dead or unable to relocate it again.
Someone ought to put the geopolitical situation in England in context.
Most of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms had coastlines facing either Scandinavia or the continent of Europe, and at the beginning of the 7th century (the 600's) the kings of those kingdoms founded port towns to direct trade through so as to be able to tax that trade and gain the maximum benefit from it.
One kingdom lacked such a coastline - and that was Mercia.
Mercia was the last of the pagan kingdoms and it's king, Penda, wanted a piece of the action but couldn't get it, so he invaded other kingdoms in turn until finally Mercia gained control of London.
One of the major battles fought was against Northumbria. The dateline of the battle and the type, style and quantity of the treasure match that of Northumbria at that time. Bear in mind also the Christian cross rolled up like plasticene, clearly having no religeous significance for those that did that.
Unproveable, but this could just possibly be part of Penda's battle hoard from the defeat of Owsiu.
Your theory may have some merit due to the knowledge of the history of Britain. What you may already know is that most of Europe, Scandinavia, and the British isles were ruled by Israelites i.e.black people.
The white supremacists and their supporters have hidden from view the black presence in Europe and its significance. I am an historian and I can tell you that if the truth of real history is ever known that fa whole lot of antiblackness will look like the evil it is. Shalom
@@davidbenyahuda5190 We all come from Africa, and those that like to forget that live in a dream world. Yes in more recent times (i.e. 1300+ years ago since that is the period in question) a great deal of slave trading was going on, as it had been for thousands of years before that. People from the islands of Britain were victims of it just as much as any other in that early period. There is some evidence of dark skinned people being known in Britain during the early medieval period but no evidence of any large scale slave population from Africa. That came much much later - and not in England, as slavery was never legal here. British people went abroad in order to deal in slaves during the 16th to early 19th centuries - any slave reaching shore in England was automatically free. And no - there is no evidence of any kind that Israelites ruled in Britain - ever. Whole different historical culture and descent.
i wish that farmer all the luck in the world bless him
He tried to take the finder to court and grab the lot,,,
The best place to hide your treasure was under the ground. I remember when the hoard was found and they said it was mangled up from tractors plowing the field. This seems quite feasible to me.....pity they didnt show each piece up close and clean 🥰🏴
Not that it can be proven, but I’d find it interesting to hear what intuitives/psychics might pick up from the objects and locations.
9:11 theres a rainbow behind this "farmer" and his "lucky charms..... the mans a leprichaun
I was lucky to see the mask of Tutankeman (spelling is wrong) at the Chicago Art Museum. I liked seeing Time Team :)
King Tutankhamon?
@@chiasanzes9770 You both got it wrong. It's Tutanhkamun. Tut - anhk - amun.
The anhk sign, which looks similar to a peace sign, is now sometimes called the key of life. In the ancient pictures a line of anhks sometimes symbolizes a stream of water, as the key to life. But in an Egyptian name it means love or treasure. Tutanhkamun's name means that Tut is loved or treasured by Amun. Tut - anhk - amun. Amun was their main god at the time.
Some modern writers do leave the H out completely because it makes it easier for people to remember as Tutankamun. But in the correct spelling the H is included. The name of the anhk sign is never spelled without the H, so the correct name of the king includes it too.
I think this hoard was the plunder from battles buried by the great north army. The fact that its made up of gold and not silver is good clue as the viking treasured silver but didn't treasure gold much. The other clue is the religious items in the hoard Saxons would not have decimated religious items unlike the the pagan vikings.
Just a thought. What if it was a kind of emergency whip round, say for a tribute after defeat or a ransom? You wouldn't give up your prized sword, but you might give up the expensive fittings which could always be replaced. Sorry, I read too much Bernard Cornwell.
We can imagine whoever buried it was afraid they would be caught with it, and was subsequently killed.
Most likely hid it and intended to return and either didn't come back or failed to remember its located
Clearly the items where deliberately damaged
Really informative documentary excellent work!
Saxon hoard? This was found on Mercian soil. The Mercians were not Saxons. They were Angles AKA Engles AKA English. No wonder people get confused.
Engels is a German word as in the writer Frederick Engles (the tribe of Engels or Angels that came from a water inlet village on the Danish /German border called Angeln, which means a hook. the shoreline there is hook shaped.
Saxon in German spelt Sachsen relates to the area in Germany called Uber Sachsen and Nieder Sachsen (upper and lower Saxony)
A saexe is a knife that was used by the saxons for roof thatching
+marius offing Genetically there is no difference though they were all Germanic tribes.Racial groups and tribal groups are two different things.
maybe not like how the Cornish are distinctly different from Devonian, believe it or not they can trace the genetic difference at the river tamar
really. there is more speculation here than fact.
the garnets suggest Byzantine treasure that was stolen from France.
Christians wouldn't have buried items that contained crosses. I saw one but there might be more. Early Vikings, before they were infiltrated by Christianity, might have considered the hoard cursed because of the crosses. They always had access to gold so it wasn't that necessary to keep this. They might have taken the blades in a battle and considered the fittings somehow tainted and so they buried them. Maybe the farmer plowed over them or the Vikings might have smashed them for the above reason.
Straight talking, salt of the earth farmer.
15.36 Bede may have been writing "in a vacuum" from where we sit now, but we have no idea what has been lost over the past 1500 or so years. If Bede was doing it then why not others too?
A show case for endless talking heads, "artistic" photography and snap quick editing There's very little examination of the actual hoard. A story for producers and editors to brag about. Where's the jewelry and the beginnings of the dig? This is show biz.
Man' s Ability to Create is Astonishing his Ability to Destoy is absolutely Astonishing...2020
That terry chap must have been very fit to have been out digging every day!!!
Even on screen Dan Snow looks tall....Googled it and I was wrong, he's a giant
Now I googled it as well, and he's only 198.
Truly Amazing as well moving !
And to think they discuss banning the term Anglo Saxon...Disgusting--They might as well try while they can because they will be in for a very unpleasant and unfriendly surprise soon
Why is it a hoard in this area, but ‘objects for the afterlife’ in Egypt
All the tribes were all Germanics brothers that shared the same blood.
Are you a Fucking White Nationalist?
interesting falsehood.
Aussie here, a Cockatoo & Galah will swear their head off. Most domesticated ones will learn to talk without even teaching them, and they are like children, they pick the swear words up real quick 😂
If these weapons were intercepted we would not have them now. They would have been lost forever. Much like the
grave robbers from ancient Egypt. No this has to be something different.
Without the detectorists this hoard would have never been found
Anything with Sir David Starkey in it is bound to be a real treat - being Irish and living in the U.K. myself, Sir David is my favourite historian, this man is a national treasure 🇮🇪☘️🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
amongst the artifacts found the were gold crucifixes.So in actual fact Christianity was still a major religion in Britain during the so called 'dark ages'....
Good point. We know Constantinus Chlorus had made his version of Christianity the State Religion of Rome. So it stands to reason Christianity would've been in Britain.
The man who initially found the burrial treasure was never given any credit because he lacked institutional credentials. His father trained him
They do not reflect on the artisans' TOOLmaking skills & the tools they might have utilised.
The British have achieved putting Christianity into a museum. Congratulations.