I don’t think people have an issue about what she said. Immigrants have heard to deal with people like her for a longtime. The issue is who she is saying it to, what did she want the patient to do? I
@@tomzibele did the patient demand? And the other thing you can't apply for sickness..wrong place not to a patient ..she absolutely have nothing to do with mnangwagwa..situation bro.
Ppl of this country often got no commonsense. They thing is ur Country struggling its ur responsibility as a citizen wait until south Africa economy collapse. They will be looking for visa to travel abroads and they will go answer those stupid questions they asking poor Zimbabweans.
You crazy u shi have point but the way shi address the issue can even effective relationship between two countries u cant act like the way shi to someone in pain
Thank you for the honesty. They must also work on fixing other problems within Zimbabwe so that they can bring Zimbabwean children back to their own soil. Both countries should prosper by working together, not against each other. It's time to let South Africa breathe and take care of its internal problems without shouldering others, and Zimbabwe must also do the same without burdening others.
I think ur speaking from a point of defending that u yourself are a burden to the South African economy. What she said is very right, where it was said is very important. She said this after the patient was already treated. Our taxes are servicing the wrong people we are extremely tired of this. Zimbabwe has never and will never be this generous to anyone. We are tired.
Corrupt politicians don’t get grilled like this. Yet this woman, whose heart is in the right place and passionate about her role, while under pressure to get things done with a limited budget is made to look like a villain. I wish every politician in SA was like this lady. She spoke common sense and the truth. And as such, she can stand up to any criticism.
That is nonsense Brian, what if that patient was legal immigrant? She should say the same thing, the Mec has very bad attitude she trying to be boss in health system in Sa...
@@rogertague8525 are they not paid for service rendered, do not be stupid and selfish. Health care workers are over worked thus leads to high death rate to South Africans. Illegal immigrants are killing our system. The government must revisit the constitution.
it was spoken to a wrong person, a patient to make matters worse 😢 I have seen some south Africans here in India coming for operations and complicated medical issues, should Indian doctors do the same to those patients?
@@itestify98 rubbish because South Africans are not illegal immigrants and they wouldn't burden the health system so next time you must think of the context and be factual
@@MzansiRealTalk you are the one who is rubbish to support that inhuman action which was done to a patient, your government is the one smh allowing illegal people to enter SA then she should take her issue to the right people, telling a patient about the budget blah blah probably that patient doesn't even understand those things, what change does it make ?
@@itestify98 but as South Africans do in your country they too must pay for services they get here that is the message. And there is nothing inhumane by telling a person the effect of what they are doing,if someone is caught stealing they already know how wrong they are so please stop blaming our MEC.
Minister of home affairs in south Africa is stupid , now 7 months he could not take any decisions. He holds everything , he doesn't know what to do? Let me advise you bring European countries law in south Africa.
This is exactly what the communities have been saying and what Operation Dudula is saying. They are straining all the systems of our country and yet our government is hush hush about it. Yet, we cannot and do not go to their countries and do as we please. It's high time....!
I stand with you Dr Phopi. Zimbabwe and it's government have for a long time abused SAfrica. Zimbabwe citizens need make their leaders/politicians accountable.
Now you are blaming Zimbabwe but the time of exalt, where were South Africans hiding? ZIMBABWE. Don't blame Zimbabweans because they are also victims of the government. Guess what, South Africa is going the same route like Zimbabwe.in 5 years time, you will the going to Zimbabwe asking for help
@@ruthmashizha30 we not blaming zimbabeans we just pointing out problems we have dealing with people from zimbabwe,that ZANU PF is not taking care of you and you are just problem of SA.You don't want to fight ZANU you just relaxing in SA while ZANU goons enjoy wealth of zimbabwe with their friends and families.It's not first time we hear you saying SA is going to fall in 5 years or 10 years or what ever time,you always say that.You like to be blame victims so much even when we point out truth regarding you.
This lady, I am very proud of her, she represent the people of Limpopo with passion and pride, the massage she had sent is what our government should implement across all departments, and I must be clear no hard feelings to people from Zimbabwe I respect them, but it’s time for them to fight for their rights and ask their government to deliver on these crucial basic services.
@@chigayomarange3802 you're right, it's very unfair to demand that your neighbour take care of your children when you are more than capable of taking care of them and when your neighbour tells you that he/she can't help you you cry foul. You're absolutely right, that's very unfair. We are african brothers and sisters, but right now, we can not help you because we are overburdened ourselves. Go back home and rebuild Zimbabwe while we rebuild South Africa.
I am Dr Phophi, and Dr Phophi is me, I stand for what she is said, She is speaking for us South Africans, Lets stand behind her, we even hire Foreigners in Government departments, can you believe that fellow Citizens?
I am Zimbabwean and I appreciate her concerns. We are just victims of systems which are beyond our control. Zimbabwe channels out Drs every year but most end up in South Africa or other countries. Our own children who qualify as doctors do not work in Zimbabwe after using resources in the country to qualify as doctors. We apologise for the inconveniences caused. I am a legal immigrant and was also involved in an accident while at work. I was given first class treatment which l m very grateful for. The situation in Zimbabwe will come to an end as nothing lasts forever but our neighbourly situation lasts forever. I wish this post would be available when it happens because I know it will. Situations will turn around and we have an obligation to assist South Africa in whatever need. It’s stressful yes but a sick person ending up at your doorstep, means they know they will get assistance and that speaks volumes about your kind hearted nature. It will be unfair for us to castigate her for saying what she said as pressure of work comes with a lot of stress yet when she checks progress it appears on zero. The two governments have an obligation to discuss this.
No when you have a problem you face it you don't run away and you said you are a victim of a system. what the MEC is not saying is that in that hospital 80% of doctors are foreigners and mostly from Zim, now if you love this country convince SA graduate doctors to work in remote area like Limpopo. stop looking at details rather than the real problems
The condition of her heart speaks volumes here! Having a heart for another will not let u behave in this manner. What got to me was the crowd around laughing.
@@rogertague8525 South Africans are flooding the west at the moment, I guess they are not staying home to face the problems in SA. I guess It’s easy to judge others 🤷🏾♀️
Thanks for your words of wisdom. Your appreciation and the manner in which you look at this matter deserves applauding. I so wish more can see it your way.
Welldone Dr. You are speaking the truth! I fully support your view. None of us was there to observe the full conversation. Shame on the media who make every effort to bring her in bad light by playing around with words. Why do you try and force your opionion on the public hiding behind "the manner in which is was done". You were not there! It is the duty of every citizen to protect our country and our rights. She is right to act, because we cannot sit and wait forever for those that was appointed to act on this, but failed to do so. I thought she did a brilliant job in explaining to this patient how the system works and how the abuse of the system affects other human beings, that are citizens, who have been on the waiting list for years. Out citizens pay the taxes to support the government system, and therefore all OUR OWN citizens should benefit from it.
I’m so proud of this woman. Stand for the truth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what she said or how she said it. If you go to the same Zimbabwe as a South African you don’t get this treatment that they are trying to guilt trip us into giving them.
You've got my support madam,tell the truth like it is,our SABC is no longer serving us,they know a lot about covid and vaccine and they did not report it because they are scared of loosing their jobs.WELL DONE PHOPHI.
She was just explaining to her. She did an excellent job for telling them right there on the spot. She doesn’t have to be politically right. We’re tired of Zimbambwean government not taking care of its citizens. It’s high time.
@@susanmahachi5667 we can agree to defer. Sometimes you have to tackle some issue head on. As a government official, it proves a point that they also feel the pressure we put them under that they do nothing. May be a message will get better to their countries back home.
The media is so disrespectful. I see this type of behaviour always. They disrespect Dr Motswaledi so much that it pains me and I am not SAcan. They do not have the love of their own citizens- the poorest of the poor who rely on free health care. Some have been waiting on the list for months. Some die in the process. Desiree I hope you have your mom and dad on medical aid. You can afford it because the pain is deep.
Did you forget that your ANC government is the one that is supporting the Zim government at the expense of citizen. We removed ZANU PF from power many times and your ANC came to Zim to support these criminals. Now we are the one suffering because of your government contributions to our problems.
Our Problem is media is always trying to prove to the world how xenophobic and wrong we are as a country like they are not part of that country and even this xenophobic name we were first labeled xenophobic by our own media. They think they are doing their job perfect but not seeing how bad they punishing their own country... they must go to America and Europe t study
We have doctors , professors , nurses , lecturers, engineers , business people and a lot of working class who are foreigners and are all paying taxes .They are paying taxes which is being used for grants for our families who are poor , having kids for the sake of getting child grant .The other taxes is allocated to health department .Lets not be selfish .The message was right but on wrong platform.She might loose her job as a dr because what she did was against hippocratic oath .People around were laughing .She demanded the lady to pay and was rude .
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Dr Phophi said. If you are in the health department you will understand better. All she said was the truth. We see a lot of foreign nationals at our health care facilities and yes patients wait for months to years to get operated on. There was no lashing out just plain truth.
what you should be advocating is to tell your kids to work very hard at school to replace the Zim doctors in Limpopo and to ask a Zim doctor not to help a fellow Zim coming over for a treatment , we are misplacing our problems
Our health system is already down on its knees with the illegal immigrants, I Mpumalanga specifically Nkomazi local municipality, you are lucky to get medication. These people has taken over everything. They need to pay for our services, period!!! Well done Dr Phophi, you are a true servant of your people.💪💪💪
Her facts are correct but I can tell you, Zimbabwe has used resources to train doctors and nurses who are now working in South African hospitals. Not only that, as a Doctor she should know that it is not the right thing to talk to a patient in that manner while the people around were laughing. If she had concerns she should have talked to her own government or the Zimbabwean government instead of a poor and sick patient. Shame on her, she is a disgrace to healthcare workers.
HANDS OFF DR. PHOPHI. SHE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. TOUCH HER YOU WILL SEE!! She delivered that message extremely well entlek that's how all nurses and doctors plus all us SAn patients must deliver such messages to them in our hospitals when they come to 'free load' our health care system. Skhathele!
100 % we feel the same way. We don't get anything free in our own country but have to cough out for foreigners, coming here having many kids, living in our places n this government thinks its ok. Its nonsense, citizens first. Our healthcare system was backlogged for so long n our people are suffering. Down Zimbabweans down.
Phophi was not shouting nor aggressive she was educating and making this woman aware that they are a burden to South Africans especially in hospitals they work very hard to make sure people are treated equally. Lack of respect for our country is what foreigners have. We are with you mec 💖
Thank you for speaking the truth MEC all south africans are behind you,well ,those that dont have anything illegal to gain from Zimbabweans,we salute you for being brave enough to speak the truth...
Dr Phophi, we appreciate you and respect you for standing for the truth. I wish you can become our first female President. South Africa needs leaders like you right now. 🙏🙏🙏
@@agoodmansaid Tumisho 🫠 listen to understand what she’s SAYING not what you WANT to hear. Before the clip ended, she tells the patient, she can’t leave before she settles the bill. She’s stating as facts, that it’s not fair that foreigners come and take up the resources, that weren’t counted for them. She’s very firm but that doesn’t mean she should just keep quiet, especially since this problem is not ONLY caused by the government but the foreigners themselves as well.
@@angelinajosina6247 if they didn’t want to treat her then don’t admit her in the 1st place . Why wait until she is in the bed on your ward to embarrass her like that . Yes Dr Phophi was saying facts but the delivery was humiliating… to talk like that in such an arrogant manner and have your fellow colleagues laugh in the background. That was so cruel . Just don’t admit the people you do not think deserve your treatment period .
I’m from Zim and I totally agree with you doctor. Zimbabwean are notorious for not taking care of their responsibilities… voting & allowing things to deteriorate, now want someone else to look after them
She is very unprofessional for a doctor for if u have a person with a dangerous disease that will spread to others she probably will be interrogating that individual instead of treating and isolate to keep public safe
Those who are privileged enough to afford private health care costs will be and are arrogant enough to find ways to crucify my MEC for being honest and vocal.
I salute this MEC. Our public sector is constrained because of foreigners. Our kids cant even get placed in some schools because foreigners have flooded our public schools
@@mbhekitembe2179 Illegality of citizenry should be established by the department of home affairs! Hospital is not a place for politicking issues! But because of your illiteracy and uncouthness you are going to come here and defend this unethical behavior like headless chicken. Your government has failed you and now they are looking for scapegoats.
@La'Mash The budget you are talking about isn’t there, they are looking someone to blame so that you can sleep well at night. It’s politics and you are really played very well.
I love this truth being articulated by the Limpopo health MEC. I wish all the provincial MEC's as well as the National Health Department could have the boldness to articulate and echo the very same message. She deserves a Bells
well said , I have a Shona customer who buys goods from me , two years ago I heard that they are flying their sick family to south Africa as the health care is free . and the man needed surgical attention . so us the tax payers are footing this bill.
Desiree was personal, l didn't like her style of questioning. You can't question like a lawyer trying to win the case infront of the judge. Unfortunately we're all suffering in our countries So , EVERYONE FOR HERSELF!!!! I'm happy because she got treatment no one turned her back because she is a foreign, but the truth must be told. I know this gonna be political .
She is 110% correct. It is time that foreign governments need to chip in to help us help their people who are flocking here, not out of choice, but because they are hungry.
Truth hurts. MEC is 100% right. People don't want the truth. I travel a lot and I get same question if I can take care of myself medically. Who say they are xenophobic?
Mnangagwa must answer why we are running away from our country ,it's about time we as Zimbabweans have to do something we can't be running around in other countries he must just resign
Put yourself in her shoes. Does the Bible not say we are our brother’s keeper? Zim and SA is only separated by the border. Africans wake up, why put seeds of hate.
I love this strong African woman! No hard feelings towards her at all!! She spoke about what all South Africans and all Zimbabweans need to be saying. Zimbabweans must wake up and confront the issues in their country and stop burdening their neighbors. The days of running away to other countries instead of voting are over. Wake up zimbabwe!
U told u that days of going to sick opportunities outside ur country is over? U know how many south Africans looking to leave SA to go look for opportunities outside?
Well said MEC, I'm very proud of you and you did well by educating the patient because she is the one who decided to come to SA illegal. The must be a rule that says if you illegal you don't get help that way our people will be able to get help fast.
Funny to see media being so combative over someone doing her job , when it’s supposed to be them asking the MEC why she is operating on illegal immigrants when the people of Limpopo aren’t getting assistance. How the roles have switched
I dont understand why the presenter keeps pushing this narrative that the MEC was "attacking or lashing out" the patient, she was merely explaining respectfully how foreign nationals are taking advantage of our country. She is a respectful and honest woman.
Viva Dr Phophi. You are a mighty woman. I salute you. Truly. Tell these arrogant Zimbabweans. To just skip over a fence and terrorize locals is unacceptable.
There's nothing wrong with the way it was delivered, when you have seen enough, you may just turn out to be worse, just be happy that she handled it properly given what she has seen in her experience......
100% behind the MEC. We salute you! At least someone still has the guts to tell the truth. She was not wrong! And we all know that, that video was cut to make her look bad.
@@leyland2725 and how does an illegal immigrant pay tax when they are not even accounted for on the population or tax books? The topic is clearly about the number of immigrants which far exceeds that of legal immigrants.. The MEC lady is very right about everything she said, what kind of country is South Africa expected to be if its tax paying citizens are taking a backseat in the times where they need access to essential services they are effectively paying for only for illegal immigrants to be prioritized in the front seat. I applaud this lady she thinks better than her male counterpart that is supposed to be her leader in the hierarchy and also this conversation, a whole character playing president who will never speak this truth.
@@nkululekoduma2281 you clearly never heard of sales tax and other taxes like fuel levy etc. SA has too many taxes when you buy various items. Educate yourself bro. Income tax not the only tax around.
@@leyland2725 Those things u mentioned are payments of services, if an illegal migrant illegally drives a car on SA roads he must pay for using that road and its maintenance... U pay for what u use
I am from Zim. The doctor is 100% correct it's amazing that Harare has been silent about this matter. It's not a secret the Zimbabwe is a burden to the region. South can start by denying top government officials from Zim medical care thts were they get treated there
She is wrong. She should be passionate about all lives. I agree that ministers should have privilege while ruining their own country. She is directing her anger at the wrong people and it is shameful.
No regrets vele and i stand with you there. Nothing wrong with manner of approach and the patient was not distressed, that's how health education is given.
Yes ,she is the right person to deliver the message because she is the one who feels the hot sit. In fact as South Africans , it is our right to raise the issues around us. Who must she wait for , to speak on her behalf .....
They is a time when one has to throw diplomacy out of the window. Dr Phopi is 100% correct !
Exactly
I support💯
She's 📢100% correct and📢 100% South African 👏🏿
I fully support you Dr Phophi Mbokodo
I fully support you Dr Phophi Mbokodo
She is telling the truth and we must not run away from the truth. I stand by her.
Seconded🙋🏿♂️
I stand with my MEC
Viva MEC the truth needs to be told. South Africans first in South Africa simple and klaar. This should have been said ages ago.❤❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
No.. I disagree with the MEC
@@enmn6001 well it's your own opinion. If you disagree what she should have done.
What she explained even a kid can understand it. People that try and dissect what she says clearly have an agenda. We support you Dr✊🏽 🇿🇦
I don’t think people have an issue about what she said. Immigrants have heard to deal with people like her for a longtime. The issue is who she is saying it to, what did she want the patient to do?
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@@thamsanqakhumalo7834 yes the patient is in pain but for them to run to their countries and come and demand basic needs in SA they need to be told
@@tomzibele did the patient demand? And the other thing you can't apply for sickness..wrong place not to a patient ..she absolutely have nothing to do with mnangwagwa..situation bro.
Rubbish.
Ppl of this country often got no commonsense. They thing is ur Country struggling its ur responsibility as a citizen wait until south Africa economy collapse. They will be looking for visa to travel abroads and they will go answer those stupid questions they asking poor Zimbabweans.
I like this mec she's straight to the point we need more ppl like her,
We as South Africans must stand by this MEC. Journalists live in different planet from us people on the ground.
They're not even shaking us a bit as obliged tax payers .... Honourable Dr. Phophi we fully support you ✊🏿🇿🇦
100% Zimbabwean, 101% in full support of what the MEC said. it high time the government in Zimbabwe fixes health system.
You crazy u shi have point but the way shi address the issue can even effective relationship between two countries u cant act like the way shi to someone in pain
@@englishtito7710 What relationship Tito?......mybe with you white Afrikaaners who only employ Zimbabwe
Thank you for the honesty. They must also work on fixing other problems within Zimbabwe so that they can bring Zimbabwean children back to their own soil. Both countries should prosper by working together, not against each other. It's time to let South Africa breathe and take care of its internal problems without shouldering others, and Zimbabwe must also do the same without burdening others.
English Tito. Relationship or no Relationship 100% MEC it's time now politician speech true.
I think ur speaking from a point of defending that u yourself are a burden to the South African economy. What she said is very right, where it was said is very important. She said this after the patient was already treated. Our taxes are servicing the wrong people we are extremely tired of this. Zimbabwe has never and will never be this generous to anyone. We are tired.
Out of all languages Dr chose to speak FACTS💯
Dr.is fighting for her people we should also be fighting for ours .She is proudly South African
The problem we are used to lies now we are experiencing truth at its best. Well done Minister we love you
Corrupt politicians don’t get grilled like this. Yet this woman, whose heart is in the right place and passionate about her role, while under pressure to get things done with a limited budget is made to look like a villain. I wish every politician in SA was like this lady. She spoke common sense and the truth. And as such, she can stand up to any criticism.
I couldnt agree with you more Preshan dear-
The problem she is a care giver and policies are not her remit.
True brother
150% dear MEC let's them speak, their can go and jump to Crocodile river. F...
True, but I love the way she handled the interview.. mama knows her story
I am Zimbabwean- it hurts but she is 100% right! Our leaders should put their ducks in line and sort our health system!
UK has deported zimbambean from UK , because of theircriminality
That is nonsense Brian, what if that patient was legal immigrant?
She should say the same thing, the Mec has very bad attitude she trying to be boss in health system in Sa...
@Maths&physics solutions. what facts
If you from zim uzothi drphophi she's wrong
@@aldochambule1997 take your brother nd your siter back to your country
She's telling the truth. Charity starts at home. Prioritize those within the country first
but in that hospital most of the doctors there are from Zim so what charity starts at home you talking about?
@@rogertague8525 are they not paid for service rendered, do not be stupid and selfish. Health care workers are over worked thus leads to high death rate to South Africans. Illegal immigrants are killing our system. The government must revisit the constitution.
This message is loud and clear and we love the delivery
An intelligent woman doctor. She should be the minister of health.
it was spoken to a wrong person, a patient to make matters worse 😢 I have seen some south Africans here in India coming for operations and complicated medical issues, should Indian doctors do the same to those patients?
@@itestify98 rubbish because South Africans are not illegal immigrants and they wouldn't burden the health system so next time you must think of the context and be factual
@@MzansiRealTalk you are the one who is rubbish to support that inhuman action which was done to a patient, your government is the one smh allowing illegal people to enter SA then she should take her issue to the right people, telling a patient about the budget blah blah probably that patient doesn't even understand those things, what change does it make ?
@@itestify98 but as South Africans do in your country they too must pay for services they get here that is the message.
And there is nothing inhumane by telling a person the effect of what they are doing,if someone is caught stealing they already know how wrong they are so please stop blaming our MEC.
The MEC was actually educating all of us, she was not even rude , South Africans need to know how they are affected by this situation.
I don’t this the sick woman was there for education. She needed help she was in pain.
@@thamsanqakhumalo7834 it was an elective operation meaning she waited for that date to come. there was no emergency.
not me she is useless!
This is painful. I can't believe us South Africans are being treated so poorly in our own country. This MEC is brave and is a true leader.
Minister of home affairs in south Africa is stupid , now 7 months he could not take any decisions.
He holds everything , he doesn't know what to do? Let me advise you bring European countries law in south Africa.
This is exactly what the communities have been saying and what Operation Dudula is saying. They are straining all the systems of our country and yet our government is hush hush about it. Yet, we cannot and do not go to their countries and do
as we please. It's high time....!
I stand with you Dr Phopi. Zimbabwe and it's government have for a long time abused SAfrica. Zimbabwe citizens need make their leaders/politicians accountable.
Our ancestors fought for this country they should stay and do the same and our parents have scares to show
they don't want to fight their leaders in Zim,they want to fight us in SA INSTEAD.
Now you are blaming Zimbabwe but the time of exalt, where were South Africans hiding? ZIMBABWE. Don't blame Zimbabweans because they are also victims of the government. Guess what, South Africa is going the same route like Zimbabwe.in 5 years time, you will the going to Zimbabwe asking for help
@@thamivilakazi7967 well said. We are 1 Africa is 1.
@@ruthmashizha30 we not blaming zimbabeans we just pointing out problems we have dealing with people from zimbabwe,that ZANU PF is not taking care of you and you are just problem of SA.You don't want to fight ZANU you just relaxing in SA while ZANU goons enjoy wealth of zimbabwe with their friends and families.It's not first time we hear you saying SA is going to fall in 5 years or 10 years or what ever time,you always say that.You like to be blame victims so much even when we point out truth regarding you.
She is a hardworking MEC I always watch her on Facebook , we need people like her in every state department.
Same here, i always watch her on facebook
Most definitely she has common sense that no other politicians or senior government has
@Ayesha vildirt you mean she is not a hard working person or we need people who do not take their jobs seriously.
I don't agree at all what she is very bad🙄
Is Facebook her office?
I'm a South African and I cannot get health care assistance in my own country. I stand by this brave lady. Dr Phophi Ramathuba for Minister of Health
Speaking with no fear...SA is in need with women like her...she stands her ground..
Really very unethical
Rubbish
This lady, I am very proud of her, she represent the people of Limpopo with passion and pride, the massage she had sent is what our government should implement across all departments, and I must be clear no hard feelings to people from Zimbabwe I respect them, but it’s time for them to fight for their rights and ask their government to deliver on these crucial basic services.
All the votes are for you DrPopi.
Dr Popi for Minister of Health!
This is not fair
@@chigayomarange3802 you're right, it's very unfair to demand that your neighbour take care of your children when you are more than capable of taking care of them and when your neighbour tells you that he/she can't help you you cry foul. You're absolutely right, that's very unfair.
We are african brothers and sisters, but right now, we can not help you because we are overburdened ourselves. Go back home and rebuild Zimbabwe while we rebuild South Africa.
@@itumelengmahaole5890 absolutely we are going to vote.... But this is earth thing we all going to die at the end
I am Dr Phophi, and Dr Phophi is me, I stand for what she is said, She is speaking for us South Africans, Lets stand behind her, we even hire Foreigners in Government departments, can you believe that fellow Citizens?
We are with her
100%
I salute and support DR Phophi for your statement.Thank you
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Agreed! They are also manipulating the system to accommodate their people! Imagine that!!
I am Zimbabwean and I appreciate her concerns. We are just victims of systems which are beyond our control. Zimbabwe channels out Drs every year but most end up in South Africa or other countries. Our own children who qualify as doctors do not work in Zimbabwe after using resources in the country to qualify as doctors. We apologise for the inconveniences caused. I am a legal immigrant and was also involved in an accident while at work. I was given first class treatment which l m very grateful for. The situation in Zimbabwe will come to an end as nothing lasts forever but our neighbourly situation lasts forever. I wish this post would be available when it happens because I know it will. Situations will turn around and we have an obligation to assist South Africa in whatever need. It’s stressful yes but a sick person ending up at your doorstep, means they know they will get assistance and that speaks volumes about your kind hearted nature. It will be unfair for us to castigate her for saying what she said as pressure of work comes with a lot of stress yet when she checks progress it appears on zero. The two governments have an obligation to discuss this.
Wise words
No when you have a problem you face it you don't run away and you said you are a victim of a system. what the MEC is not saying is that in that hospital 80% of doctors are foreigners and mostly from Zim, now if you love this country convince SA graduate doctors to work in remote area like Limpopo.
stop looking at details rather than the real problems
The condition of her heart speaks volumes here! Having a heart for another will not let u behave in this manner. What got to me was the crowd around laughing.
@@rogertague8525 South Africans are flooding the west at the moment, I guess they are not staying home to face the problems in SA. I guess It’s easy to judge others 🤷🏾♀️
Thanks for your words of wisdom. Your appreciation and the manner in which you look at this matter deserves applauding. I so wish more can see it your way.
Welldone Dr. You are speaking the truth! I fully support your view. None of us was there to observe the full conversation. Shame on the media who make every effort to bring her in bad light by playing around with words. Why do you try and force your opionion on the public hiding behind "the manner in which is was done". You were not there! It is the duty of every citizen to protect our country and our rights. She is right to act, because we cannot sit and wait forever for those that was appointed to act on this, but failed to do so. I thought she did a brilliant job in explaining to this patient how the system works and how the abuse of the system affects other human beings, that are citizens, who have been on the waiting list for years. Out citizens pay the taxes to support the government system, and therefore all OUR OWN citizens should benefit from it.
She’s 100% correct we support the MEC
Journalism in SA doesnt benefit citizens..
They are hypocrites
Exactly
Indeed because they only serve their masters
They are parasites.
I’m so proud of this woman. Stand for the truth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what she said or how she said it. If you go to the same Zimbabwe as a South African you don’t get this treatment that they are trying to guilt trip us into giving them.
You've got my support madam,tell the truth like it is,our SABC is no longer serving us,they know a lot about covid and vaccine and they did not report it because they are scared of loosing their jobs.WELL DONE PHOPHI.
She was just explaining to her. She did an excellent job for telling them right there on the spot. She doesn’t have to be politically right. We’re tired of Zimbambwean government not taking care of its citizens. It’s high time.
She was right yes, but the platform was wrong
@@susanmahachi5667 we can agree to defer. Sometimes you have to tackle some issue head on. As a government official, it proves a point that they also feel the pressure we put them under that they do nothing. May be a message will get better to their countries back home.
The media is so disrespectful. I see this type of behaviour always. They disrespect Dr Motswaledi so much that it pains me and I am not SAcan. They do not have the love of their own citizens- the poorest of the poor who rely on free health care. Some have been waiting on the list for months. Some die in the process. Desiree I hope you have your mom and dad on medical aid. You can afford it because the pain is deep.
Did you forget that your ANC government is the one that is supporting the Zim government at the expense of citizen. We removed ZANU PF from power many times and your ANC came to Zim to support these criminals. Now we are the one suffering because of your government contributions to our problems.
Our Problem is media is always trying to prove to the world how xenophobic and wrong we are as a country like they are not part of that country and even this xenophobic name we were first labeled xenophobic by our own media. They think they are doing their job perfect but not seeing how bad they punishing their own country... they must go to America and Europe t study
I don't pay tax for foreigners. Thank you Dr for voicing this problem out. We don't go to the other countries illigaly and demand things.
You missing the point what does she achieve by attacking a patient ,it goes to show her low level of thinking 🤔
We have doctors , professors , nurses , lecturers, engineers , business people and a lot of working class who are foreigners and are all paying taxes .They are paying taxes which is being used for grants for our families who are poor , having kids for the sake of getting child grant .The other taxes is allocated to health department .Lets not be selfish .The message was right but on wrong platform.She might loose her job as a dr because what she did was against hippocratic oath .People around were laughing .She demanded the lady to pay and was rude .
@@batsiella6853 go home
@@zamoshezi8158 meaning ??? Can you please construct a full sentence .
@@batsiella6853 definitely she/he can't 😂😂😂😂😂
This is painful for South Africans really. Very painful that we have to put the interests of foreign nationals before our own citizens😡😡😡
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Dr Phophi said. If you are in the health department you will understand better. All she said was the truth. We see a lot of foreign nationals at our health care facilities and yes patients wait for months to years to get operated on. There was no lashing out just plain truth.
what you should be advocating is to tell your kids to work very hard at school to replace the Zim doctors in Limpopo and to ask a Zim doctor not to help a fellow Zim coming over for a treatment , we are misplacing our problems
Thank you Dr. Phophi.🙏🏽 Much appreciate you standing up for South Africans. 🇿🇦
Hands off our MEC. She's on point👌
Our health system is already down on its knees with the illegal immigrants, I Mpumalanga specifically Nkomazi local municipality, you are lucky to get medication. These people has taken over everything. They need to pay for our services, period!!! Well done Dr Phophi, you are a true servant of your people.💪💪💪
I'm with Phophe, SA is the only country that puts foreigners first instead of south Africans who pay tax, ANC is the end if this country
U lie. I'm from congo foreigners are treated well there than cityzens. We font even hv rights but foreigners have
I know this doesn't concern me as a kenyan but Dr Phophi is right in her argument.
Correct Sir
She is right but telling those to the patient doesn't help the situation
Her facts are correct but I can tell you, Zimbabwe has used resources to train doctors and nurses who are now working in South African hospitals. Not only that, as a Doctor she should know that it is not the right thing to talk to a patient in that manner while the people around were laughing. If she had concerns she should have talked to her own government or the Zimbabwean government instead of a poor and sick patient. Shame on her, she is a disgrace to healthcare workers.
HANDS OFF DR. PHOPHI. SHE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. TOUCH HER YOU WILL SEE!! She delivered that message extremely well entlek that's how all nurses and doctors plus all us SAn patients must deliver such messages to them in our hospitals when they come to 'free load' our health care system. Skhathele!
Tru
I agree!
will see what?..why dont you say that to that government in Zim?
100% Hope, hands off Dr. Phophi
Sikhathele yibo Vele.
Dr PhoPhi, Im with you, I support you 1million%. You are not going anywhere.
100 % we feel the same way. We don't get anything free in our own country but have to cough out for foreigners, coming here having many kids, living in our places n this government thinks its ok. Its nonsense, citizens first. Our healthcare system was backlogged for so long n our people are suffering. Down Zimbabweans down.
U u talking with hatred. U mean a South African staying in UK or USA or in Angola mustnt make kids there?
Phophi was not shouting nor aggressive she was educating and making this woman aware that they are a burden to South Africans especially in hospitals they work very hard to make sure people are treated equally. Lack of respect for our country is what foreigners have. We are with you mec 💖
True
You don't educate a patient like that in front of other patients
@@sandie7380 exactly as a nurse with a heart she should have helped the patient first who is in pain then say those things after..
@@cleovetshijessicanyembere2658 watch the whole video then you will know what she said to everyone
The patient had already been operated hence she said " you will not be discharged until you pay"
The minister has simply stated the facts! Respect!👏🏽👏🏽
Viva Doctor Phophi. Thank you for standing up for the people you serve my sister. We thank you greatly 🙏🏽 ❤️ you're a hero
Thank you Dr. You handled this interview very well. You explained everything so well..
Thank you for speaking the truth MEC all south africans are behind you,well ,those that dont have anything illegal to gain from Zimbabweans,we salute you for being brave enough to speak the truth...
We are in desperate need of leaders like her
Dr Phophi, we appreciate you and respect you for standing for the truth. I wish you can become our first female President. South Africa needs leaders like you right now. 🙏🙏🙏
Desire Chauke lost the debate. Thanks MEC for standing your ground. We stand with you
But she did not "lash out" at the patient. She simply stated facts. She is firm, brave and fearless. We need more leaders like her
Why to this sick lady, state the facts to the right people in your government
Its horrible. If you fall and break your leg is it the right time for me to tell you how you shouldn't have been running? No humanity in this
@@agoodmansaid True.
@@agoodmansaid Tumisho 🫠 listen to understand what she’s SAYING not what you WANT to hear. Before the clip ended, she tells the patient, she can’t leave before she settles the bill. She’s stating as facts, that it’s not fair that foreigners come and take up the resources, that weren’t counted for them.
She’s very firm but that doesn’t mean she should just keep quiet, especially since this problem is not ONLY caused by the government but the foreigners themselves as well.
@@angelinajosina6247 if they didn’t want to treat her then don’t admit her in the 1st place . Why wait until she is in the bed on your ward to embarrass her like that . Yes Dr Phophi was saying facts but the delivery was humiliating… to talk like that in such an arrogant manner and have your fellow colleagues laugh in the background. That was so cruel . Just don’t admit the people you do not think deserve your treatment period .
She was spitting facts. I love her.
I support the MEC. The message is loud nd clear.
It shall be well with our sou
She was not rude, she was direct! I love how she handled this but I think this is a discussion that needs to be held with the foreign state concerned.
I’m from Zim and I totally agree with you doctor. Zimbabwean are notorious for not taking care of their responsibilities… voting & allowing things to deteriorate, now want someone else to look after them
On point they should come back home register to vote and atleast do something instead of running away from Home .
@@pressivillemutungi6259 Is voteing in Africa ever fair?
Help us with power to go to the state courts, and help release those in jails. And finally give us guns so we can be armed.
🙏😂😂😂This is too much, Lord help us......
Wish if it was yo wife r yo family member,,,,u must feel sorry fo the poor woman,,,,
She must become our national health minister!!!
Presidential chair suits her very well. In that way we are sure to be well represented.
@@wlets9784 Agree but i don't think it will happen!!!
She will be fired or suspended ..
She must become our president
She is very unprofessional for a doctor for if u have a person with a dangerous disease that will spread to others she probably will be interrogating that individual instead of treating and isolate to keep public safe
Dr Phophi has done nothing wrong infact she was calmly educating that patient, I’m with her 100%
I am so touched by the level of service Dr Phophi Ramathuba has for the Limpopo Province. I am moved by her passion. Long live Dr Phophi Ramathuba
Those who are privileged enough to afford private health care costs will be and are arrogant enough to find ways to crucify my MEC for being honest and vocal.
I agree with MEC, unfortunately some people are abusing our health system.
Tax payers money being wasted.
Hands off Dr Phophi✊
She was very correct. There's so much abuse of our systems.
I salute this MEC. Our public sector is constrained because of foreigners. Our kids cant even get placed in some schools because foreigners have flooded our public schools
You are right minister. This is too much. Really this country is over crowded. Every department is facing a problem.
Foreigners are not making 10 million! You should direct this anger to the right authority.
@@mosesjacksonkarashani2642 Pay attention to matters that affect your country. With a bit of luck, you may see them fixed in your lifetime.
@@mbhekitembe2179 Illegality of citizenry should be established by the department of home affairs! Hospital is not a place for politicking issues! But because of your illiteracy and uncouthness you are going to come here and defend this unethical behavior like headless chicken. Your government has failed you and now they are looking for scapegoats.
@La'Mash The budget you are talking about isn’t there, they are looking someone to blame so that you can sleep well at night. It’s politics and you are really played very well.
Dr Phopi u have carried Zimbabwe long enough u r honest fair and precise u should be Minister of health.
Respect for MEC, leading by example, able to keep emotions aside to entertain the media whom is trying to portray her message in a negative manner
YOU'RE NOT XENOPHOBIC MAMA ,WE SALUTE YOU AS SOUTH AFRICANS
100% behind her
I love this truth being articulated by the Limpopo health MEC. I wish all the provincial MEC's as well as the National Health Department could have the boldness to articulate and echo the very same message. She deserves a Bells
Dr. We thank you for your transparent leadership protecting our services which is sacked by immigrants. We salute you.
well said , I have a Shona customer who buys goods from me , two years ago I heard that they are flying their sick family to south Africa as the health care is free . and the man needed surgical attention . so us the tax payers are footing this bill.
We need more MEC’s/government officials like Dr Phophi who puts South Africans first!!
PHOPI must NOT be apologetic she gave a great speech
that was not lashing
Desiree is being an ASKARI
Nje she must not. Xenophobic ma foot
I agree with you Desiree acted like a lawyer tryingto win the case . I didn't like her way of asking. But anyway that's her Job.
Hatred will never end
Desiree was personal, l didn't like her style of questioning. You can't question like a lawyer trying to win the case infront of the judge.
Unfortunately we're all suffering in our countries So , EVERYONE FOR HERSELF!!!!
I'm happy because she got treatment no one turned her back because she is a foreign, but the truth must be told.
I know this gonna be political .
Mosono wa Desree and I hope she sees this..nx
She is 110% correct. It is time that foreign governments need to chip in to help us help their people who are flocking here, not out of choice, but because they are hungry.
MEC well done you have said everything on point.Love you Poppy
Truth hurts. MEC is 100% right. People don't want the truth. I travel a lot and I get same question if I can take care of myself medically. Who say they are xenophobic?
But if one is a tourist must have health insurance when you are a resident you are included in the system.
Illegal immigrants are not residents
Mnangagwa must answer why we are running away from our country ,it's about time we as Zimbabweans have to do something we can't be running around in other countries he must just resign
Put yourself in her shoes. Does the Bible not say we are our brother’s keeper? Zim and SA is only separated by the border. Africans wake up, why put seeds of hate.
You guys need to go home and sort him out. We 💯 behind you. You can't hide in foreign countries.
Thank you Dr for standing your ground, we salute you Mom 🙏. Well done!!
The MEC is very right about this issue. I'm 100% behind you Phophi.
Dr is true tell them because they see this problem but they don't talk about that . You are very strong Dr we love you. Keep it up.
I am with you Phopi on this 1, tell the truth as is
I love this strong African woman! No hard feelings towards her at all!! She spoke about what all South Africans and all Zimbabweans need to be saying. Zimbabweans must wake up and confront the issues in their country and stop burdening their neighbors. The days of running away to other countries instead of voting are over. Wake up zimbabwe!
U told u that days of going to sick opportunities outside ur country is over? U know how many south Africans looking to leave SA to go look for opportunities outside?
Well said MEC, I'm very proud of you and you did well by educating the patient because she is the one who decided to come to SA illegal. The must be a rule that says if you illegal you don't get help that way our people will be able to get help fast.
We stand with Dr Phophi
I'm with you on this one. They should promote you nationally!
That will remain a wish - non corrupt leaders are never promoted
she deserves it
I support you 100% MEC. thanks for putting South Africans first.
Phophi is representing us..those who are using the public health system...
Funny to see media being so combative over someone doing her job , when it’s supposed to be them asking the MEC why she is operating on illegal immigrants when the people of Limpopo aren’t getting assistance. How the roles have switched
Salute to MEC our health facility system is on deficit because of the unregistered foreigners.
I dont understand why the presenter keeps pushing this narrative that the MEC was "attacking or lashing out" the patient, she was merely explaining respectfully how foreign nationals are taking advantage of our country. She is a respectful and honest woman.
Viva Dr Phophi. You are a mighty woman. I salute you. Truly. Tell these arrogant Zimbabweans. To just skip over a fence and terrorize locals is unacceptable.
There's nothing wrong with the way it was delivered, when you have seen enough, you may just turn out to be worse, just be happy that she handled it properly given what she has seen in her experience......
She must be our national health minister.
Viva MEC Viva
Agree
VIVA
Yes
True
Thank you Mama Phophi, SA needs to get to terms with issues of dealing with illegal foreign nationals...
100% behind the MEC. We salute you! At least someone still has the guts to tell the truth. She was not wrong! And we all know that, that video was cut to make her look bad.
Long live Dr Phophi. Leadership
This is Crazy, as a Taxpayer my contributions should help South Africans first...everything else comes after, this nonsense must STOP!.
Foreigners also pay tax
@@leyland2725 and how does an illegal immigrant pay tax when they are not even accounted for on the population or tax books? The topic is clearly about the number of immigrants which far exceeds that of legal immigrants.. The MEC lady is very right about everything she said, what kind of country is South Africa expected to be if its tax paying citizens are taking a backseat in the times where they need access to essential services they are effectively paying for only for illegal immigrants to be prioritized in the front seat. I applaud this lady she thinks better than her male counterpart that is supposed to be her leader in the hierarchy and also this conversation, a whole character playing president who will never speak this truth.
@@nkululekoduma2281 you clearly never heard of sales tax and other taxes like fuel levy etc. SA has too many taxes when you buy various items. Educate yourself bro. Income tax not the only tax around.
@@leyland2725 U are a fool if u think VAT, Fuel levy etc is tax...All illegal economic migrants must go and hold their governments accountable
@@leyland2725 Those things u mentioned are payments of services, if an illegal migrant illegally drives a car on SA roads he must pay for using that road and its maintenance... U pay for what u use
I am from Zim. The doctor is 100% correct it's amazing that Harare has been silent about this matter. It's not a secret the Zimbabwe is a burden to the region. South can start by denying top government officials from Zim medical care thts were they get treated there
She is wrong. She should be passionate about all lives. I agree that ministers should have privilege while ruining their own country. She is directing her anger at the wrong people and it is shameful.
No regrets vele and i stand with you there. Nothing wrong with manner of approach and the patient was not distressed, that's how health education is given.
This is just beautiful. Well done, Dr. Phophi👏
WE STAND WITH PHOPHI
100%
Yes ,she is the right person to deliver the message because she is the one who feels the hot sit. In fact as South Africans , it is our right to raise the issues around us. Who must she wait for , to speak on her behalf .....
I am Zimbabwean, this MEC is correct and must be aplauded
The Minister is correct and we support her.
mec not minister u idiot
Iqiniso liyababa, she was definitely correct & we must stand by her. I will never vote for ANC but this is completely true