The original Golf Rs ! The Mk2 Golf Rallye + Mk4 Golf R32
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- Monday's Car Video! A nerdy look at the templates for the VW Golf R.. the VW Golf Rallye (Mark 2), and the VW Golf R32 (Mark 4).
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The Golf R follows a simple but effective receipe; small car, all-wheel drive, bigger power, special bodykit, nicer interior, but where did this start within the company? This video takes a look at the first two cars that featured this formula.
Grey 1990 VW Golf Rallye owner : Jamie Orr
Silver 2004 VW Golf R32 owner : Sean Maynard : / mdewod
Factual disclaimers :
This specific Golf R32 is a 2004 model, like as USA models; they were available in 2003 in Europe.
The engine in my Golf Rallye has been modified; it has a Lysholm supercharger, not the original G60 ( kept the original motor for safety, and modified another engine).
The engine is Sean's Golf R32 is really dirty; the car is being restored to factory original, and this is the pre-state of it.
The USA received 5,000 R32, Canada got their own numbers (I spoke incorrectly and say 5,000 for North America).
There's probably some other small things, but hey, it's meant with love.
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Mk2 Golf Rallye the best Golf ever
Jamie lives and bleeds Volkswagen. It’s very humbling listening to his wealth of knowledge and history of Volkswagen. Keep up the kick ass videos!
Thank you so much!
Yes sign me up for the sappy show on why Golf Rallye weren't sold in US. 😂
That 2004 R32 inspired me to do a personalized plate on my New Beetle “WTT4R32” Which always gave a smile on the enthusiasts faces.
Y'know, for the price of a thrashed TT Quattro and a friend who can weld, a New Beetle can be just as good as an R32... :P
Christopher Williams There’s a very fun VR6 New Beetle in my city, love seeing it out on the town. I don’t have the New Beetle anymore, but I had a blast with it. Good memories.
@@SynchroSk8 I'd love to swap a VR6 into mine! Maybe if the 1.8t ever dies I'll look for a Jetta GLI that's been hit in the rear or something.
I think VW still sells the AWD rear floorpan if I ever choose to do that swap but IDK how much they charge for it. TBH getting someone to put it in would be the hardest part.
Damn of course I wanna see the history on the Golf Rallye!
Keep it on, Jamie!
I was a Service Manager when we got our first R32. Made arrangements for a tech to come in Saturday to perform the PDI for the sales department. First customer who drove it that afternoon crashed and totaled the car! I almost shed tears on that one.
These are two cool cars. Christian Smith's wife Casey has a really sick Mk4 R32. Mk5 R32 is my dream car. I love watching your vids and getting drowned in VW knowledge.
Yes the Mk5 was missing in this video for some reason. Sad that people undermine it all the time but it did bring about the independent suspension and is the base for the modern golf layout (Mk6 was basically a facelift Mk5). Handling wise it shouldn't be ignored because its a much better car than the Mk4 for all aspects other than those who prefer the aesthetic of the Mk4 and electric steering.
Golf Rallye is my halo car. I've seen all the cool real Golf's in flesh, including the G60 Motorsport. I have yet to lay my eyes on one of these. I unfortunately know the story you reference about the Rallye, tragic indeed.
I can imagine a rallye headlight and grille setup is going for big bucks these days. They weren't cheap when I bought mine for my '91 vr6 gli about 15 years ago. They've got to be significantly more rare nowadays. Good video, thank you for sharing.
Love this geeky dive in to the rarities and differences between the golf models.
Thanks!!
Not exactly sure why you purposely shunned the mk5 R32... it was an awesome car too
Awesome video man. Good to see rally content again here. One small note. The Italian market models were offered with side markers instead of the badge. And getting more specific. The company Autosystem offered Italian VW dealers retrofit a/c systems for the Rallye. These were then installed by the dealers and sold with an Electronic Climate Control. For a serious mark up I imagine. Which I have on mine and mines LB7V as well. Next year I'll be back in Pennsylvania ill have to swing by your shop with it, if you're around at the time.
Im so glad youre doing the youtube channel jamie ... we been needed this! 😀😀😀
I bought my r32 off my family a couple years ago we owned it since the factory and raced it every year for 6 years straight. now I’m working on getting a lb5r bug to match and throw a vr6 mainly just to have Wookie sounds but also to build a replica rsi for vw meets! Not sure if I should do videos too I have a lot of random projects goin on.
Love the outro - nothing like a Wookie squat and chirp :)
Heck yeah jamie! Another great video!
Had to sign in on my actual channel account. Awesome video man. Good to see rally content again here. One small note. The Italian market models were offered with side markers instead of the badge. And getting more specific. The company Autosystem offered Italian VW dealers retrofit a/c systems for the Rallye. These were then installed by the dealers and sold with an Electronic Climate Control. For a serious mark up I imagine. Which I have on mine and mines LB7V as well. Next year I'll be back in Pennsylvania ill have to swing by your shop with it, if you're around at the time.
I need this dudes confirmation, but to all of you wondering what is this red blocky VW with a black front bumper and a missing hood, its a Brazillian model of car called the VW Gol, wich was a base model of the time. Though, this one can be the sport trim of the time, maybe a GTS or a GTI, because of the seats on the car. I guess I can say the Gol would be the equivalent to your VW Golf. It would came with a Air Cooled engine options on 1.0 up to 1.6 or an sportier version in water cooled engines available at a 1.6 or 1.8 versions. The water cooled versions are known here in Brazil as the AP engines, and the air cooled ones as the CHT or the BX.
This car can be a VW Gol,a VW Parati, or a VW Voyage, both these share the same fronts, and these cars have the fame of carrying insane engines(AP) with awesome potencial, but not holding as much power, as their front would brake on various points because of the engines power and weight.
A really well done AP engine with a turbo can embarass the sickest BMW's ir Audi's.
Am I right about the car you have there, Jamie?
Huge hi from Brazil🇧🇷!
waiting patiently for the Rallye specific video.
I'm thinking about it a lot.. It's sad and a tough one to make, and I want to do it justice.
Your Rallye golf is so gorgeous.. I love it
MK2 Rallye. Fantastic collection.
Many thanks!
Thanks for the video Jamie, love that r32
Thanks for mentioning the Mk3 A59... didn't want the Mk3 crew to feel left out :(
After watching this I feel emancipated to vocalise my love of the mk 2 in all its manifestations 👍
Thanks, Jaimie. Love these video that give us so much history. Your videos are educational and entertaining. Would love a video on the history of the VW Wagen. From the Squareback to Alltrack (I have a 19 Alltrack 😊).
Maaan! I love your videos! I like to learn more about vw golfs. Hopefully soon i get another one of my dream cars, the R32
Mk2 Golf Rallye. Yes please.
You have so many great cars! I grew up with Golf of all kind in my family. Would love to have one again but it’s hard to find any decent older ones.
Love the mk2 rallye film it's true many parts on the rallye were only fitted to it and getting new ones can be costly if you're lucky enough to find them. 🤣😂 Jamie I've rebuilt my golf my rallye myself engine four wheel drive gearbox using the Volkswagen manuals that there own techs worked to. I got sick and tired of alleged overhaulers telling me that they had done this and that
Thank you! Definitely getting wild on the parts, haha.
My friend got a blue r32 when they cam out he showed up to my job with it and I thought it was an amazing car varie fun to drive and makes a great sound!
I love vw's and your videos are great 💪
I miss driving my Rallye. I hope to start restoring it soon :)
Hello my friend. you have beautiful cars ;-)
Thank you very much!
I nearly got hold of golf limited , cant remember which number and was kicking myself when I was outbid as i was away on tour. I was fuming, 20k bid
I still remember the brand new Golf Rallye sitting at the dealers lot . For me, 18 year old a dream on wheels.
Amazing!
The most important question: when are you getting or going to do a video on the MK2 Golf Limited?!? The world needs more 16v G60 content!
Great video!
They where all made in Volkswagen Brussels, at the “Vorst” site.
There's a bunch of facts you misses off the Rallye but cool video.
There's definitely so much more, I was worried I would be boring people too much already ;-)
This vídeo makes me wanna get a R32!
I enjoyed my 2012 R. Just wish I’d gotten the 4 door.
Brilliant car I owned one for 8 years.
Lovely Rallye dude 😊 I do love an R32 too😜😍
Thanks!!
I love mk4 R32 as i own my personal mk4 1.8turbo is the most beuatiful car and sound i love it but in Greece never sold it
Nice collection of VWs!!! Is that an original Citi Golf in blue behind you?
Nice talk dude!
In Sweden mk3 vr6 syncro was available , you could get in wagon. you could also buy 2 wheel or 4 wheel rally prepped race cars right from the dealer.
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Holy shit i am such a huge VW nerd, like i've been heavily into them since I got my first GTI at 12 years old (project for my dad and I to build together). I've been a technician at a VAG specific performance/repair shop for the past 12 years and basically just eat + sleep VW's...so I basically thought i've seen just about everything, but this video just blew my mind with that japanese parcel shelf! SO fuckin' cool jamie always has the rarest stuff. All you guys with MK4 or older VW's in the states need to check out Orchid euro if you want any OEM euro goodies.
Vr6 is life
It all started in 1987 with VW's Screamin' Yellow Zonker Prototype. Look it up.
That Mk4 needs some proper cleaning and clearly have some beginning rust on the front fenders (well known spot) pretty easy to repair before its too late.. like you said, its a collectors item. 😏
I've been building a g60 16V for my mk2 for a few years now. I think its time for me to finally finish it. Too many projects.
Yup and that’s why I own a mk4 .:R32 and have solowerks coilovers on it
AWESOME!!
Yes we want we video about Golf Rallye story in the US
Jamie - love the t-shirt! Where from?
Cant tease us on why the Rally Golf never came here. We need this vid.
Man, the Golf Rallye you have is one of the most valuable of the dynasty!! I think the stock engine It's not very good because the kompressor isn't very reliable; in the other hand it looks amazing and that white wheels fits perfect. Here in Europe are more expensive than the R32.
Thanks! The G-Lader wasn't bad if it was maintained, but I didn't want to modify the low mileage original engine so saved it when I put the more fun twin-screw charger in, haha :-D
When I had my golf MkII Gti 8v, I knew a person who had a red Rallye and almost bought it... The bad thing of the story is once the car was stolen and partially burned. It was repaired and at that time I didn't want to fullfill my life with problems... Today I regret not having bought it to leave it impeccably. Congratulations for this kind of vídeos!!!
Great vid man! Just I think the real grandfather wasn't the Rallye, it was the Golf Limited! G60 syncro but with 16 valves and 210 hp's. Sure you already know about it.
Good point on the Golf Limited, but I think it's maybe more of a sleeper formula, and really built for the executives. I personally think the Limited might be more cool than the Rallye, but that's another conversation for another day, haha :-)
Arteon R and The R line cars are not from R GBMH if I’m not mistaken . They’re just production trim level packages
Great vids dude. I have a polo 2000 6n2 and I'm doing it up slowly and was thinking about a set of eibach lowering springs . Any good ideas or experience in this area or anything to watch for. I've got about 200 pound budget. 👍👌
The one I like the most is the mk5 R32 cause it's modern enough for me and I like the Recaro seats a lot
Good reasons!
No RECARO seats for the USA Mk5s from the factory sadly :-(
So I got curious and I found the missing link... There WAS a Mk3 Golf R... Kind of sort of not really!
Apparently mainland Europe got a Mk3 Golf Syncro with the 2.9L VR6 out of the Corrado! It wasn't really touted as a special edition or anything so it didn't get any of the nice exterior touch-ups, but it fits very very nicely in the lineage between the Rallye and the Mk4 R32 .
Kind of a shame that the Golf A59 never saw production, it would have been cool for VW to have an Evo/WRX competitor. :P
Agreed on the Mk3 Syncro existing and the best being the 2.9 VR6! I owned a Mk3 Syncro 1.8L 8 valve here in the USA, and it was a fun car. Sadly none of them got fun bumpers and other upgrades like the R / R32 etc, but definitely cool cars still :-)
I've always wanted a Rallye Golf and a Golf country would be cool too but like the most recent scirocco we aren't allowed
Oh yeahh that rally golf is another dream car...so much character and its just sexy!!
The G-Lader is the Achilles heel of the MkII Golf Rallye, and it was underdeveloped by VW Motorsport. IMHO it should have gone with the conventional Root Type Supercharger or the KKK / Garrett Turbocharger and it might have been more competitive.
I would like to see someone do an extensive history on the scirocco and Corrado
I still have my 92 VR6
My signature pic is my TDI B4V Syncro/Haldex on bags. I can attest to the lineage of the Syncro/R32/TT Mk1. For example, VW used the exact same yokes and rubber couplers on Mk2 Golf right on thru Mk1 TT. Hell, the Sharan even got a Mk4 rear diff with an old style viscous coupler in place of the Haldex. I'm building another B4V TDI AWD this winter. We enthusiasts are indeed nerds for shit like this.
Mk2 all day!!!!
Can you do a video about the 337 and 20th ae?
You should build a modern harleyquin , maybe based on a up!
Fun fact the rallye spoiler is also thicker than GTI and other spoilers😅
True
Very nice and rare rallye golf! I have a 92 GTI 16v (the one on my profile pic.) I’m rebuilding the engine! I was wondering if you know a place where I can buy or send to rebuild the fuel distributor? Yes! Still running the oem injection!😬
Thanks!
Thanks! You're big bumper 16v sounds awesome! I don't know anywhere that does unfortunately, but hope you can get it sorted okay!
How much are the Mk2 rallye golf going for theses days?
Also, share your knowledge brother.
Thank you so much!
Guessing your G-Lader went pop and you put the BB in there?! Always fancied a Rallye, they look awesome
G60- pull the pin, count to 60.
@@danr8194 lol
Theres a grey version of the R32 interior with Alcantara centres aswell, but I think it was European only
Yes, you're correct - I forgot that, oops, haha!
Golf rally made in Belgium ? i didnt know that and i am from Belgium ... Volkswagen only had one production plant in Belgium that is located in Vorst (near Brussels) It is a Audi plant now , they made the Audi A3 there and now the new Audi e-tron.
Dude , whats happening with the citti ?
The wookie, yea buddy....
did you sell your turquoise blue mk3 to james pumphrey? because i'm getting confused, i just wanna know what wheels are on it xD
Yes, I did :-) The wheels are KW Turbo. From the same company that made the suspension on it :-)
@@JamieOrr oo, finally xD been looking for them for so long but could never find them
Great looking Rallye, love the rims, what are they?
They are Compomotive TH-1680 16"x8" :-)
Similar to the old Lancia rims, knew I recognised them. Great choice. Gonna look for a set for my Corrado.
What about the MK3 VR6?
MKII 4LIFE!
Did they really sell the R32 without Xenon Headlights in the USA? Thought it was Standard on the Rs. But maybe its because of the front cover that afaik was not allowed to be made out of glass in America and they did not make plastic Xenons...
Correct, no headlight washers and no Xenons like the EU cars etc :-)
Thank you for your answer :) I really enjoy your videos!
Another thing that got bigger with the mk4, is the weight.
That's true, but progress (and safety) made that inevitable I think. The Mk7 was the evolution that brought back a great balance in my opinion, thanks to newer materials etc.
@@JamieOrr Yea, but it is also size, cars just keep getting bigger and bigger. Wider, taller, and longer in the US. They could make a smaller car with all the safety standards, and they do for the European market, but we never get them here, like the Audi S1 and S3, Polo, Fiesta ST. BMW put out the 1 series, and it sold out instantly, here in the US, so there is a demand for higher performance small cars, but they wont give em to us.
The MK7 is a beautiful car IMO too. Nice clean lines.
He really hoped people would not notice this guy has swapped the hard of the golf rally. He swaped the fckn g-lader for a BBM supercharger.
I'd have done the same...actually NVM i'd have trashed the whole thing in favor of an EA888 or an 07K
@@AnissaEx A good supercharger wil make lot's more power than a g-lader. But i thinkg with such a special car the parts have to be stock.
You forgot the Golf Mk3 VR6.
Mine just hit 85k.
But Jamie how about the mk3 vr6 syncro isn’t the a “R”
Good point :-) The Golf 3 syncro didn't have anything really 'extra', or special body parts, so I don't think it's in the same concept at the Rallye/Golf R32/Golf R. Same with the Jetta GT Syncro, Golf 4Motion etc, in my opinion.
but dont forget the forged crankshaft inside the MK3 VR6 syncro and the MK4 R32^^
@@curlygerhard All 12V had forged cranks as well as all MK4 R's...when they got to MK5 i believe a great majority of them were cast cranks, but some did get the forged crank. (i've never personally seen one though)
Why Last White wheels? Firm?
Pardon? :-) :-)
@@JamieOrr disk name at the end, while color
12-35 timecode
@@danskFF the wheels? They are Compomotive TH2-1680 :-)
@@JamieOrr ty
First!!
First person to ever say first on one of our videos!
That mk3 fiesta in the background seems so out of place😂
Video about the Fiesta is now live, haha!
@@JamieOrr i'll give it a look, cheers👍
just 1 question why do american hate eu cars. no one around michigan vill work on them
No love for the mk5 r32 makes me sad
Sorry, haha :-) Maybe I should a Mk4 vs Mk5 R32 video some day..
2023
Sponsored by Solo Werks suspension, wears a KW hat. Lol.
SoloWerks is part of the KW Suspension family. I also work with KW / ST, but SoloWerks specifically are helping these videos exist :-)
@@JamieOrr That's actually very good to know. I trust KW, but wasn't too sure if I would put money into Solo Werks gear. Knowing that they are part of KW, I may actually get a set for my project car.
1000$ turn signal 😂
Vw mk2s the baddest vw’s ever made I had a mk2 gti vr6 swap regret selling it til this day golf r are junk mk4s are the last best Vw best made new ones suck ass I been into vw’s since I was 16 I’m now in my 40s
Nice to see how Americans are fascinated bei our Volkswagen 😊 and not this electroshit