PRECISION / JAZZ: Helping You Choose

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • In this video, I explain three of the main differences between the Fender Precision Bass and the Jazz Bass, as well as a bit of helpful history. Either way you choose, you win. This video is here to make your choice a little easier.
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  • @dakotawagner
    @dakotawagner Před 2 lety +62

    I played a J for years and recently switched to a P. Since then I’ve really started to develop my own sound and I think the P was a huge factor.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety +3

      Nice! Glad it’s working for you 🤘

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee Před rokem +7

      The simplicity of the P really teaches you how much tone is in your hands and challenges you to refine your technique. It’s also nice that the P never really sounds bad

    • @steroidsR4losers
      @steroidsR4losers Před 8 měsíci +3

      and the decision is Moog.

  • @AdamZMusic-mr7yz
    @AdamZMusic-mr7yz Před 2 lety +58

    The band you’re playing in, and what instruments are in the mix, makes a big difference. Sometimes you want those wide-range Jazz Bass frequencies to fill up some space, and sometimes you need a P Bass’ mid focus to sit in a busy mix. I once heard the generalization that J Basses do better in smaller ensembles, and P Basses are the better tool for bigger bands. In my experience this is a decent rule of thumb.

    • @erstwhilerambler
      @erstwhilerambler Před rokem +1

      I like that. Good explanation

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey Před 27 dny +1

      And I could use the neck pickup of Jazz bass and EQ to get close to p-bass.

  • @ghosttownreview1531
    @ghosttownreview1531 Před 2 lety +32

    I have one of each and they are both my #1 basses depending on the situation. Precision has a boom attack before you hear the note. Jazz has a lighter attack and creates the effect that the note simply appears without an introduction. Precision is polite with how it sits in most mixes - almost asking permission to provide a little low end to the rest of the band. Jazz is in your face and demanding. If I'm playing C# on my Jazz and the rest of the band is in C, they sound like they are in the wrong and I'm right. Love them both but prefer the feel of the Jazz.

  • @Mr4Strings
    @Mr4Strings Před rokem +24

    Best P/J Bass comparison I've seen. Really clearly explained and easy to understand. Very cool. Thanks!

  • @markeythesharkey6153
    @markeythesharkey6153 Před 2 lety +45

    Philip, This is a fantastic video especially for a confused guitar player trying to learn bass. Your explanation of the differences of those two models of the Fender bass was exactly what I was looking for... concise, easy to understand and with visual aids. Thank you. Awesome channel. I'm getting a lot out of your bass course as well.

    • @somedude8242
      @somedude8242 Před 2 lety +5

      Not to muddy the waters but I hear the Fender Mustang is great for guitarists because of the short scale neck

    • @markeythesharkey6153
      @markeythesharkey6153 Před 2 lety +1

      @@somedude8242 Thanks for your reply. Funny you should mention a short scale bass. My friend just took delivery of a Hofner violin bass from Germany. It plays like a guitar. Short scale and frets closer together. Nice instrument. Not the overseas copy.

    • @scottbaines4747
      @scottbaines4747 Před 2 lety

      Amen.

    • @scottbaines4747
      @scottbaines4747 Před 2 lety +1

      @@somedude8242 That's one thing I found myself wondering, especially because we've seen Philip with his Mustang so often: Where does the Mustang fit in among the Precision bass and Jazz bass? Maybe that's a future video.

    • @grantkoeller8911
      @grantkoeller8911 Před rokem +1

      @@somedude8242 Please remember that short scale basses have less string tension.

  • @d.s.9692
    @d.s.9692 Před 2 lety +11

    This is an excellent video, but I just want to expand on one thing that Philip mentions about the tones of the two basses: The midrange of every instrument is really where its 'character' comes from. It's the part of every instrument's sound that best highlights what kind of instrument it is. The Jazz bass with both pickups turned up has a subtle, quiet midrange, and fits into subtle music very well. The Precision has a bolder character, and bringing an aggressive sound out of it is pretty easy. It's a favorite of punk and indie musicians, but also of music producers, because they know all the tricks to dial that aggressive character up or down depending on what the mix needs.

  • @hof8231
    @hof8231 Před 2 lety +56

    To me, few things sound better than a slightly overdriven Jazz bass, both pickups wide open, played with a pick.

  • @Matt-1d
    @Matt-1d Před 2 lety +18

    I haven't been playing long, and prior to getting my first bass I tried out my friend's P and J basses. I decided to go with a Jazz bass because I preferred the feel of the neck and the more diverse tones. Not having developed a style of my own a of yet, more tonal options seemed like a good choice to start with. I've been really pleased with my choice.

  • @blakevanhouten1672
    @blakevanhouten1672 Před 2 lety +9

    I totally agree with your on-stage-description of how to choose between the two. Makes perfect sense. Although my answer is counter intuitive, as I play simple, pocket parts but I prefer the sound look and feel of a jazz bass. Like you said you only win when you pick one. Can’t go wrong with either.

  • @seankent1807
    @seankent1807 Před 2 lety +2

    Great summary of these two iconic instruments! I agree 100% on how you said you play on a P vs a J…I find myself doing the same 👍

  • @abeingofpureenergy
    @abeingofpureenergy Před 11 měsíci

    Man, the very vibe based description of the two towards the end was honestly best thing I've heard in a comparison video.
    Really helped convey the difference for me. It sold me on a P-bass, even tho I want the offset body. Earned a sub from me. 🔥

  • @larrygarcia5684
    @larrygarcia5684 Před 2 lety +4

    Gotta say Thank You! Haven't played with flatwound strings since 1978. Thanks to your motivation, I tried a set of half rounds and am loving the feel and the tone...maybe in another 44 years, I'll be ready to try a set of flats! Keep up the great work on your videos, look forward to them each week!

  • @arieltz23
    @arieltz23 Před 10 měsíci

    This is the most detailed and interesting comparison video I've watched on CZcams!
    Thank you for diving deep into this and also reminding us of the fact that's it's about what feels good to each individual!

  • @black-xg3gz
    @black-xg3gz Před rokem

    I like them both. You explained it very well.
    I have a 98 jazz and a 2010 P. I dumped a set of 63 Fender pick ups in with the period correct wiring harness in the P.

  • @jimmythefish
    @jimmythefish Před rokem +4

    You deserve a lot more subs, you’re a natural and produce very high quality stuff.
    I’m a guitarist who just picked up a MIM J Bass to learn on largely because I found a good used one at a great price locally. A close guitarist friend has a P bass so we have both and can trade I guess. I like the narrow neck and the body comfort for sitting, which I mainly do. Tones don’t matter as much for me as playability for learning and just playing for fun. If I get into it maybe I get other basses but it’ll probably do me just fine for a long time.

  • @somedude8242
    @somedude8242 Před 2 lety +9

    Fantastic video. At this point I’ve watched just about every P/J comparison video on CZcams and this one was easily the best 👏👏👏

  • @basswars7060
    @basswars7060 Před 2 lety +9

    This is an outstanding video and I wish I had seen it when I started playing. Both basses are awesome, and Leo Fender gave us a great gift with the Precision and Jazz.

  • @tsant6591
    @tsant6591 Před 2 lety +1

    I've been looking for a review that covered these exact issues, and I've found it. This will immensely help anyone who is trying to decide which to get. I've owned (and still own) 3 Jazzes, and I've played a P.
    For me, it's about feel. I've always gravitated towards the Jazz for tone and neck feel. Great video!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for the kind word! So glad to have you here. I love the sound of a jazz bass too ⚡️

  • @hollymartins6913
    @hollymartins6913 Před rokem +1

    Excellent primer on the fundamental differences. My compliments on a eloquent, concise, explanation on the differences and benefits of each instrument. Hell, yeah!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před rokem

      Thanks for the kind word Holly! And thanks for watching ⚡️

  • @LordEradicus
    @LordEradicus Před 2 lety +4

    I used to go with the idea of having a Precision in the studio and a Jazz on stage, but it naturally just does depends on what sound you're going after. I primarily play P&J basses, but I also have just a P-bass because I like how it can sit high in a mix.

  • @cliffordchoy8230
    @cliffordchoy8230 Před rokem

    awesome analysis and condensed comparison, align very much with your personal opinion on when to use P and J, thanks!

  • @williammyers9209
    @williammyers9209 Před 2 lety +13

    Love this! Maybe active vs passive pickups in a similar format could be cool?

  • @PabloAGarcia73
    @PabloAGarcia73 Před 2 lety

    One of the better videos on this subject on CZcams. I'm a beginner and I have a Sterling Stingray in the HH config, lot's of variation there, and a nice distinct sound. However, lately I've been really wanting to get one of these for those classic, amazing tones. Well done!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! I hope you find the sound you are looking for ⚡️

  • @dr_tomK
    @dr_tomK Před 2 lety

    Great comparison Phil. I think I started with the best of both worlds. When I wrote my first book, I planned to use my first royalty cheque to buy a nice guitar. I went into my local shop and there was this Fender P bass there with an added Jazz bass pickup and extra volume control. I tried it out and started playing Clash riffs like London Calling and Jimmy Jazz on it. I swear this bass spoke to me and it ended up coming home with me. Complete change of plan as I wasn't a bass guy and didn't have a bass amp.
    I told this story to one of my grad students at the time and it turned out here was selling a Trace Elliott bass amp. I bought that off him, and got totally into bass guitar. I kept it for years, but finally sold it when my band need a pa system. Boy do I regret that now.
    Currently I have a Squier Jazz bass with a maple neck that I love to play with. It's good but not what I had.

  • @davidlynch4338
    @davidlynch4338 Před 2 lety

    You absolutely nail when you say both can do it all. I always preferred the aesthetics of the Jazz bass, probably because more of my heroes played them (John Paul Jones, Jaco, Les Claypool on occasion). But I do find myself gravitating to the growly P-bass sound.
    I played a Jazz bass for 20 years that I never really bonded with and ended up turning it into an electric Sarode and at the moment my go-to bass is a MIJ Jaguar bass (full scale, 2 jazz pickups, the original model). I also have a 1985 MIJ Squier fretless P-bass that sounds and plays amazing. Honestly, once you have a Fender designed bass in your hands, the instrument won't get in the way of any playing style or sound you need. Great video, if I had seen it 30 years ago, I might have bought a P-bass as my first real bass and ended up being in a famous rock band instead of as a struggling Sitar player ;)

  • @elifairchild1565
    @elifairchild1565 Před 2 lety +1

    I agree 100%, they way i look at it is If i want to stick out in a mix then i’ll play the Jazz bass. If i want to lay back and not be “heard” then i’ll play the P. Sometimes when i’m mixing my own recordings and i’m playing with a P- I wont think what does this mix sound like with this bass i think more of what does it sound without it. And typically it’s thin and dull and the bass just brings it all home.

  • @superheavydeathmetal
    @superheavydeathmetal Před rokem

    I just LOVE that mean, throaty sound of a Jazz Bass with all of the knobs maxed! I call it the “bullfrog” tone.

  • @noahkurowski8465
    @noahkurowski8465 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Philip,
    Watching from Germany. I really enjoy the content you create! You have such a unique and cool way to share your knowledge and experience. Thanks for that :) keep it up, man

  • @RussellBobel
    @RussellBobel Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent video Phil! Really well structured.

  • @iandamaral
    @iandamaral Před 2 měsíci +1

    In my experience, owning a Jazz Bass was fundamental for learning the bass and developing my musical personality. Seven years later, I bought a 2007 Fender MiM Precision Bass, and this bass truly made me a musician. In my opinion, the "less is more" vibe of the Precision Bass is what distinguishes a bass player from a musician. You start to think more about the whole rather than the bass part, if you know what I mean. Btw, this P-Bass remains my primary bass; I wouldn't trade it for anything.

  • @felixrodriguez3527
    @felixrodriguez3527 Před 10 měsíci

    Awesome video ! Great job ! The only thing i might add is that you can always mod a Jazz Bass with a push pull pot to have both pickups in series. It’s a fantastic sound and will get you closer to that p bass sound if you prefer the jazz bass feel and neck. I’ve had both and now i am now the very lucky owner of a 1963 precision bass. My forever bass. Cheers

  • @marcpressley8681
    @marcpressley8681 Před 2 lety +4

    Started in 1982 with a J-bass knockoff that I recall weighing around 20 pounds. Graduated to an 83 P-bass the next year. I still own it. The neck is definitely a different feel--if I'm on a J-bass or a Music Man, I can really tell the difference in my fret hand. Love both, but I'm more of a pocket groove guy anyway, and I love the simplicity of the P-bass.

  • @bencobass56
    @bencobass56 Před 2 lety

    Heyyy Philip... Good video as always... My first 2 basses were a Squier P-Bass and a Squier J-Bass so I had time to experiment with both models... It's difficult for me to choose a favorite model and that's why I like to change between P-Bass and J-Bass in the covers on my youtube channel... It's also why when it was time for me to buy a better quality bass I turned to the Mustang P-J... My Fender Mustang is the perfect bass for me and the P-J configuration suits me well... Thanks again for the interesting content!!!

  • @ryanhumphrey5821
    @ryanhumphrey5821 Před 2 lety

    Awesome tone!!! I have a heavy jazz body with a heavy, super wide, super chunky fretless precision neck. Fralin pickups, John East preamp. Strung with La Bella Gold Flats .85 .65 .45 .29 tuned down to standard tuning. A vast gulf of space from string to string. Good times.

  • @TRONOFTHEDEAD
    @TRONOFTHEDEAD Před rokem

    Bonus Facts were for me! All about the P/J configuration with a Jazz Bass neck for me. 🤤
    I started with a P/J and played the hell out of it and then switched to a Jazz Bass and played the hell out of that. Now I have a P/J with a Jazz neck and I couldn't be happier. The tone of a P Pup is just so good but I also really like having the versatility of "cleaning-up" (sterilizing) the mids by adding in some of that J Bridge and I love that flat virtuosic feel of the Jazz neck.

  • @alainphilippe7485
    @alainphilippe7485 Před rokem +3

    You Philip and Rett Shull are doing a very good job with your channels :-)

  • @rodrigosobrosa
    @rodrigosobrosa Před 6 měsíci

    THIS is the best video comparing these two incredible basses.

  • @NoahShreve
    @NoahShreve Před 2 lety +1

    Great breakdown! Both have their place.

  • @jonniegibbins
    @jonniegibbins Před 2 lety

    The advice on imagining yourself playing the bass is very good, I like that. The way I was taught was to see what the player in the band you loved most played - it was John Paul Jones so I went for a P bass because I couldn't afford a Jazz ;-)
    I swapped for a Jazz in 1984 and much prefer it, but I keep a P bass (or a PJ with a Jaguar neck - more versatile and nicer neck) around. It's best to try out each type first, but don't get hung up on the feel of the bass - you can get used to differences. Make sure you have one that sounds good to you. Neither is better or worse, it's simply what works for you.

  • @kevincothron5089
    @kevincothron5089 Před 2 lety

    I enjoyed the video. I play a five string Jazz. My first Jazz was a Mexican fender. It had the single coils and they hummed if i went to one or the other. I kept both pickups on wide open to make a humbucker. The one i have now has the noiseless single coils which kind of aren't the true single coils. No hum though. I just love the feel and sound. I still run half and half on the pickups most of the time. It is switchable active or passive. I run it active unless my batteries die then it is passive never miss a beat. If i want a real p bass sound i go to the neck pickup on passive and it does it real well. I also own an MTD bass. It is cool too.

  • @Corporal-Clegg
    @Corporal-Clegg Před měsícem

    Cleanest video I've watched in a while

  • @MiketheBassMan
    @MiketheBassMan Před 2 lety

    I started playing bass as a teen, and got kind of peer pressured into thinking More is More Better. I played a 5-string with active pickups for years and then got sick of it and fell off bass. I'm twice as old now, recently picked up a PJ Mustang and it's been amazing. Love just running the P pickup and thumping. Your on stage hypothetical is spot on for me.

  • @adriengahery9471
    @adriengahery9471 Před 2 lety +2

    I didn't enjoy the feel of the Jazz bass' neck I tried. I leant to the sound of a P anyways; and the neck feel was what I expected, so that was a match. Turns out I'm responding more to the flair of a Precision in general !
    Great video, you are definitely nailing that CZcams thing !

  • @BenStolz
    @BenStolz Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this video! As a guitar player looking to learn a bit of bass and to get one for home recording, this was extremely helpful! I’ve always wondered the difference between the two!
    I think there’s a p-bass in my future!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety

      Good luck Ben! I hope you find the sound you are looking for ⚡️

  • @scottkidwellmusic9175
    @scottkidwellmusic9175 Před 2 lety +1

    I picked up a fretless jazz bass at a pawn shop years ago, and have been hooked ever since. At some point in 2020 I found myself walking out of a shop with a Flea Roadworn jazz bass.
    I'm looking to pick up a P bass in the near future, and then possibly a P bass in the P/J configuration...
    So, the simple answer to which one is "Yes!" 😂😂😂
    Thanks for the rundown- appreciate it! 🙏

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon Před rokem

    My own first electric bass was an economy version of the modern P-bass built by Epiphone with the Gibson Explorer headstock that I got at age 16 in ‘96. When I chose to upgrade to a more professional-grade instrument four years later, I was short-sighted enough to think “been there” and that I didn’t want another P-bass. An active J-bass was winking at me when I went on the market in 2000. Much as I’m glad I chose that as my model for the following 19 years, I occasionally daydream that I’d instead gotten a hybrid. If I’m no mistaken, 2000 was when Fender had just begun marketing the basses with the P-bass body and the split-coil neck humbucker but with the J-bass bridge pickup and neck. That seems like the best of both worlds, the punchy neck tone, the sound pallet and a slimmer neck.
    Hearing a couple of colleagues playing the hybrid model has kind of fueled my interest.
    I should ask, Philip. Is that a Moog synthesizer? Which model?

  • @Palindromeater
    @Palindromeater Před 10 měsíci +1

    Best explanation I’ve ever seen on the fundamental differences between the two most significant electric bass designs. The only info missing is the tonal differences between the single coil J, and the split coil of the P.

  • @blooter6360
    @blooter6360 Před 21 dnem

    Very good👏👏👏👏 best p/j description I’ve seen in years

  • @thomasoconnor9836
    @thomasoconnor9836 Před rokem

    I have a 90's precision special, they were built with pj combo and jazz neck, a new precision ultra, and new jazz ultra they all sound great.

  • @geepers100
    @geepers100 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video… super helpful … thanks very much

  • @nicholasschut3317
    @nicholasschut3317 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for this great video Philip ! I'm soon gonna get my first bass and I will go for the P !

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 7 měsíci

      That’s a great choice. Good luck with your bass journey!

  • @MartinCliffe
    @MartinCliffe Před 2 lety +1

    Greetings from Bucharest, Romania. Always leaned more towards the Jazz bass. But both are cool. I have a nice Mike Lull 5-string P for when I want that traditional vibe, but most of the time I'm playing a modern J (with 35" scale and 5 strings) :)

  • @nancyvanrijn9732
    @nancyvanrijn9732 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved this video! Very informative, nice to learn more about the differences between basses. I personally prefer the P-bass sound, nice and moody 😄 So, when's the video about the upright coming? I recently rediscovered a band I used to listen to years ago, Stray Cats, love the bass in that 😁🎶

  • @Andronicus2007
    @Andronicus2007 Před rokem +2

    IMO P bass everyday, especially with flats! But yeah, the J bass has its own cool character too. But hey, also love the Stingray too! 😮

  • @admarhermans1
    @admarhermans1 Před rokem +1

    Great video for beginners, Philip. Good job!
    Some famous players did like to play a Jazz bass, but only use the neck pickup, like the great Joe Osborn. The sound is almost as mid focused as a P bass, especially with flats. Joe got some great sounds!
    Others favour the P, but liked the Jazz bass neck more, so they simply swapped necks, 😄. (Try doing that with a Gibson or an Alembic..., 😉). The most famous bassist who did this later in his career was the great Donald ‘Duck’ Dunn. Adam Clayton used to play his famous ‘73 sunburst Fender P with a Jazz neck too.
    In the early ‘70’s (late 1970-1972) Fender had the option to have a P with a Jazz neck. One famous user was Nate Mendel, with his ‘71 Candy Apple red Fender P.
    Others loved the Jazz bass, but liked the neck of the P bass more. One famous player liking this was Tim Commerford (Rage Against The Machine). Even Jaco Pastorius had a maple board late ‘70’s P neck on his fretted Jazzbass he used in his instruction video around 1985! He just might have wrecked the original neck...
    I love and use all the options: Fender P’s and J’s and hybrids; both with flats and rounds! Love ‘em!
    🖖

  • @brendanmcewen7190
    @brendanmcewen7190 Před 10 měsíci

    P Bass with Jazz neck ftw. G&L has some awesome customization options for this, and the Lakland Duck Dunn signature comes stock in this configuration I believe. Nice video!

  • @qasimansari7540
    @qasimansari7540 Před 10 měsíci

    The best video explaining the difference between the two basses. Thanks so much. I have a Vox 1982 standard bass which I am guessing it's a P Bass. But would like to know what you think.

  • @petelamontmusic
    @petelamontmusic Před 2 lety

    As you alluded to at the end, after you've played around with different options you can always customize. I like the P body but J necks and one of the basses that I wish I still had was a J that had two P pickups. I've also seen a couple of really cool PMM basses with a MM pickup in place of a J. Another cool one I played was a J bass that someone had put Thunderbird pickups in. Great era for gear that we're in right now!

  • @Terribleguitarist89
    @Terribleguitarist89 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the Jazz aesthetics, but the Precision's tone and feel is where I feel "home". One day I'll build a Jazz body, PJ, P neck franken-bass... with flats of course lol

  • @AndyRobinson1010
    @AndyRobinson1010 Před 2 lety

    I totally agree with your summary of the differences, although there are the exceptions. I love playing both Pbass and Jbass and find the song and the style will influence which I'll use. But, if you have to choose one, then, I'd refer back to your summary. Philip, I really enjoyed your video and I guess you could class me as an old veteran, could talk all day about them.

  • @shugemery
    @shugemery Před rokem

    The P bass is the one I'd want to go to lunch with...if it were a person. But I am in my 60s and a new bass playing convert. Have a Fender P bass, a Stirling Classic RAY24 and a Sire V3P. Switching back and forth a lot and spend most of my practice between on or the other. I'm starting to see how they all have their now place. Now I get why bass players seem to own several basses.

    • @barondavis5692
      @barondavis5692 Před rokem

      Hey Shug,
      I’m pretty sure the sire v3 is/was a j bass.
      That you let go for a G&L L1000; aka p killer.
      I have been intrigued by the L1000 since.

  • @thomasfioriglio
    @thomasfioriglio Před 2 lety

    Nice comparison. I played a P bass for 20 years and about a year ago got my first Jazz. Man, the neck feels good. I've been going back and forth ever since between the two. As many others advised on many a forum, (if you can afford it) get one of each. My P bass has flatwounds and the Jazz has roundwounds. Both feel great to play and have different tones. And as you said, just picking them up makes you play differently.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Well said! I also keep flats on my p and rounds on my jazz in general. Thanks for sharing!

  • @vlkt7488
    @vlkt7488 Před rokem

    Hi Philip, this is an absolutely awesome and very informative video.
    When someone asks if they should get P-bass or J-bass my first answer is: both.

  • @rstuartcpa
    @rstuartcpa Před rokem +1

    I got a Squire J bass mostly because I thought two pickups was better value than a one pickup P bass. It was only latter that I started really getting into playing that I found I was lucky with my selection. I love the setting of tone all the way down and both volumes all the way up. I find I can get notes to "bloom" with that setting.

  • @brucew.5177
    @brucew.5177 Před rokem

    Dude , You are a Natural ... Great Video

  • @lassebasseish
    @lassebasseish Před 28 dny

    I started out on a P bass, eventually bought a Jazz bass which became my number one for a long time before I stumbled upon a limited run P/J that Fender did in 2016. Now, I have two slightly different configured P/J basses plus the Jazz as an alternative. P/J truly is the best of both worlds imo, but I keep the Jazz because it has that really cool and snappy tone with both pickups fully on with a bit of overdrive that the P/J can't entirely achieve.
    I somewhat agree with the take of trying both before going with a P/J. It really gives you a understanding of why it's such a great combo. But it also doubles as a P by simply muting the bridge pickup, so if you're leaning towards P I would definitely check one out. They usually have a Jazz type neck as well though, so they're not always just simply a P with a second pickup.

  • @JeffsBassment
    @JeffsBassment Před 2 lety +2

    It so hard to choose between the two. I lean toward the J bass personally. I feel like I can get pretty close to the P tone with it, but then have other options with the bridge pickup. For a while, my set up was P-bass with flat wounds for blues/country/soul stuff and a Jazz with roundwounds for rock. Recently, I did get a new P/J that I have rounds on that I get the best of both worlds from.
    My desert island bass is my American Deluxe Jazz, but it's more about that particular bass than it is the P vs. J question. Assuming I have batteries on the deserted island.

  • @erstwhilerambler
    @erstwhilerambler Před rokem

    Love the vibe of your video. Very chill, humble, and informative. Would LOVE to have that Nash because it just looks so good, but I think I might be a P guy. I keep trying them and will hopefully come across a good deal on something special before long.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před rokem

      Thanks Jason! Glad to have you here ⚡️

    • @erstwhilerambler
      @erstwhilerambler Před rokem

      @@philipconradmusic I ended up getting a Squier CV Jaguar with the 32” scale and (wait for it 🥁🥁🥁) P/J pickup configuration. The slightly shorter scale and jazz-like neck make it über comfortable, and the blend of P&J each with concentric vol/tone controls make it über versatile. I’m über stoked.

  • @jamesmarkham7489
    @jamesmarkham7489 Před 2 lety

    Ive played a jazz for so long that i struggle to enjoy playing a pbass at all. Finally built a partscaster with a washburn t-14 body and an import neck. It's got a p and mm style pickup combo. That's the best tone/feel p bass combo for me.

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover Před rokem

    I have a Jazz Bass and my friend has a Precision Bass and I think it kinda fits as our reaction to For Whom The Bell Tolls couldn't have been more opposite. I see use of the 19th fret and go "Hell yeah, that's sick!" whereas his response was "What the hell?"
    I think the biggest reason I went with the Jazz Bass was that bridge pickup, I like the more trebly nature of it. The neck taper is just a little added bonus

  • @kirkbolas4985
    @kirkbolas4985 Před měsícem

    I’ve got wide hands with short fingers. The P-Bass neck has been my nemesis since day one. It’s too chunky for my left hand. Fender starting offering a PJ Bass with a J-Bass neck. Problem solved….that was my main bass for a long time…until I lost my job during the pandemic and was unemployed for an extended period of time. I had to sell all my music gear to not become homeless while seeking employment. I found work and bought myself a Tagima J-Bass, however I quickly realized I missed the P-Bass sound…sooo I bought a pick guard blank and cut a new pick guard for my J Bass. With some careful measuring and tracing of a Duncan P-Bass pickup I had in my parts box, I fit that pickup to the new pick guard I made, wired up the pickup to the bass’s control set and voila, I created a replacement for my former Fender PJ bass. It sounds and looks great and is easy to play, at least for me.

  • @jeffburnham4582
    @jeffburnham4582 Před 2 lety

    Super helpful info!

  • @zeyadhamza8791
    @zeyadhamza8791 Před 2 lety +1

    Your ending visualization exercise reminded me of a pithy comment I saw on another video on a similar topic: “When you want the bass to be heard, play a J bass. When you want the bass to be felt, play a P bass.”

  • @chetdunham3434
    @chetdunham3434 Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome and helpful video. Best of the comparison between "j" & "p". Many, many years ago I played a Fender jazz bass and was always fighting with the tone. Now as an older and wiser player I prefer to put forth my own sound and the simplicity of the "p" sounds good-to-go. The neck thing is not an issue for me as I have pretty large hands.

  • @PhillipAlcock
    @PhillipAlcock Před 2 lety +1

    Love my Fender Made in Mexico Jazz Bass with black flatwounds and Seymour Duncan Vintage pickups. Recently (from someone on CZcams) discovered playing with just the bridge pickup but the tone right off (I.e. treble wound right off). Always something new to learn. Just ordered a Sire U5 PJ bass. Short scale ‘cos I’m getting on a bit and the J Bass gives my pain in my fretting hand in long sessions.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety

      Awesome! Sounds like you have some great things going. Good luck!

  • @paul_solis
    @paul_solis Před rokem +1

    I think a lot of it for me comes down to how much I want to fuss with tone. You can be a hyper minimalist with a P bass directly into your amp with 30 year old flats and die happy. I personally like experimentation and risks so it will always be a J or similar for me. I currently love my G&L Kiloton but that's a whole different thang. Lovin your content my friend, keep it thumpin.

  • @heartofoak4503
    @heartofoak4503 Před 2 lety

    Lol, I was waiting for you to mention another Great J-Bass player. Geddy Lee, of Rush, He was the main reason I chose to build a J-Bass from a kit....he uses every nuance that the J-Bass provides and then some. I'll have some Kent Armstrong pickups in the kit, but am thinking of getting some Tom Brantley Geddy Lee signature ones down the road.

  • @BB-fk1wf
    @BB-fk1wf Před 8 měsíci

    I love how this guys explains things

  • @jalenfuller2000
    @jalenfuller2000 Před 2 lety +5

    I have used p style basses throughout much of my time as a bassist and even after playing everything from music man to even a hofner I keep coming back to the p bass for its simplicity especially in terms of recording and my playing style feels out of place with most instruments so p bass always speaks to me

  • @user-xx8ll7mo7h
    @user-xx8ll7mo7h Před 2 lety +1

    Greetings from Taiwan! Really nice and helpful advice in the last part!

  • @jessievasser6293
    @jessievasser6293 Před 2 lety

    I played a Jazz for years and it is really cool but I now play a Mustang PJ and it does everything I want with the comfort and feel I prefer.

  • @alanhyt79
    @alanhyt79 Před měsícem

    I went to the Fender Mod site, ordered a Mocha Burst bass, and specified the PJ configuration. Sure, it cost me over $2K, but I believe I have the perfect bass guitar. My bass teacher got excited and played it the entire session, and didn't charge me at all, LOL! It is the perfect bass. It did cost me... and my second bass is a Hofner Ignition series violin bass (less than $500), like Paul McCartney used in his early Beatles years. That one's in the shop now. The luthier is fixing it up now. It will have flatwounds and sound more like a stand up orchestral string bass.
    For many years I played saxophone, alto and bari, plus a year of cello.
    These are my first guitars, and as a recent retiree, I am overjoyed with the great sound the Fender makes. I would highly recommend the Fender Precision bass (with the PJ configuration option on their MOD website) above all other contemporary Fender basses. My expert (and teacher) seriously covets it!

  • @IggyYTube
    @IggyYTube Před rokem

    Philip ... this video is fantastic. So well explained, well demo'd and sound-wise you really get a good feeling and impression about both the P-vibe and the J-vibe.
    I own both and I love both so much but admit I love the P just a little better, and as you mentioned I like to groove more with the drums (and make the crowd go up and down) rather than being in the spotlight with my bass ... but also the feel of the P-bass neck ... P or J... in the end you can't do anything wrong, right ?
    Keep it coming those vids ... it's really great.

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller8911 Před rokem

    Guitar center sells a Squier Precision bass starter packs, that have an additional Jazz Pickup added, called The Affinity Special, with a jazz neck.
    This is a totally a no brainer. The price is great, the bass quality is great and the versatility is great! What more could a beginner want or need, and you get a free amp too.
    Both the P bass and jazz bass are great basses, this way you kind of get both.

  • @peterb1543
    @peterb1543 Před rokem +3

    They are both great but I think the P Bass is always guaranteed to sound the same, if that is what you want. If you can, its nice to have one of each, to cover every sound.

  • @juzek1958
    @juzek1958 Před 2 lety

    Flatwounds on a jazz bass cuts through the mix very well where the precision couldn't (in my experience). I've been using stainless steel flats on my jazz for the past 15 yrs. Everyone loves the sound I get. My fingers love it most of all.

  • @kevinallen4743
    @kevinallen4743 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely great video comparing the instruments. I play in an atypical band. The P-bass & J-bass players do exactly what you describe. P & the first drummer create a really solid groove, whilst the J-player and other drummer/percussionist deviate from it, solo and spiral or just play over it in a different time. I & they never realised they chose their instruments based on how they prefer to play, I guess it was: unconscious, derived from their idols or just luck. BTW I generally play a chorded 8 string in a rhythm guitar style. Yep 3 basses, 2 drummers & a woman that screams.

  • @phipschi4255
    @phipschi4255 Před 2 lety +3

    I personally prefer P basses. My Squier 60's vibe has a rather slim P bass neck with only a nut width of 40mm's, the neck is also rather flat so its a joy play on! I've put some EMG GZRs in it and it sounds really good for basically any Genres. I'd love to try a PJ or PH someday tho.

  • @bobt5778
    @bobt5778 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice job! For many years I had one of each - I considered these the "hammer and screwdriver" for a bass players toolbox. Although a Stingray might be a nice addition to that toolbox...

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety

      Well said ⚡️

    • @martinheath5947
      @martinheath5947 Před 2 lety +1

      I have those three 😊 American standard P with flats, 1964 P with 2 active EMG jazz pickups (in 60s Jazz bass configuration) and a StingRay Classic 2 band EQ. All great for different tasks for different reasons and I love them to bits!

  • @dorssberube
    @dorssberube Před 2 lety +1

    Great video Philip! ✌🏻

  • @timbaxter9932
    @timbaxter9932 Před 2 lety +1

    I have one of each. I use the P for 60's and some 70's stuff. I use the J for almost everything else. If I had to pick one I'd choose the P Bass. The split pick-up makes that oh so sweet BASS SOUND...

  • @rvs79jack
    @rvs79jack Před rokem

    You're amazing!

  • @avantgardenovelist
    @avantgardenovelist Před 2 lety +2

    watching p vs j vids all day. yours is the best. thank you.

  • @ricardodubatti657
    @ricardodubatti657 Před 2 lety +2

    Cool video. I'm in love with my Ibanez TMB-100 (it's affordable, quite beatable and PJ), but if I were about to buy a Fender I think I would go for a Precision (or a JMJ Mustang!).
    By the way, I would love to hear you talk about the upright.

    • @ryank5115
      @ryank5115 Před 2 lety

      Cheaper Ibanez PJs are underrated.

  • @Wombatmetal
    @Wombatmetal Před 2 lety

    I tend toward a PJ myself. I love to toll off the J pickup and go full P, but I've never owned a nice P bass, should probably try one out. What got me into bass was John Paul Jones, that line from Dazed and Confused. On a Jazz.
    I like a wider nut than a Jazz though, my current main bass is an ESP Stream with PJ pickups (in soapbar housings). It has a 40 mm nut.
    If I were to start again, I would pick P. The simplicity lends itself better to focus on playing.

  • @tadejvaukman
    @tadejvaukman Před 6 měsíci

    Best comparison on CZcams!

  • @travismartinson1813
    @travismartinson1813 Před rokem

    I liked the P bass with flat wounds the best. It really had a very deep low end sound. So far on CZcams I like the sound of the semi hollow basses the most.

  • @eddiecharles4020
    @eddiecharles4020 Před 2 lety

    Loved the full sized bass comparison. However as a converted guitarist I love my vintage Mustang! Perhaps some day I’ll graduate to a longer scale.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Před 2 lety

      I love mustangs as well. If it’s working for you nothing wrong with that!

  • @backlineguy
    @backlineguy Před rokem

    Just acquired a 2006 Fender Highway One American P Bass...it just sings, it plays and sounds great...also have a Marcus Miller Sire P7 PJ-style 4 string with active EQ and an 18V system...these basses are incredible - and not just for the price. string through body, this one is Alder, a Jazz-style neck with the satin finish so it's FAST and super comfortable, p-Bass pickups and a Jazz pickup at the bridge, including a passive/active switch!...with some active basses, your battery dies, you're done...this allows you to flip a switch and play on...The mid sweep is DYNAMIC...can't say enough about the Sire...I toured years ago playing exclusively a 5-string Fender Jazz and loved it, but man, if these Sire basses had been around, I'd have probably switched!...but the P-Bass is SOLID gold sound, in the most reliable and recognizable bass guitar ever...it's passive and essentially does ONE thing tone-wise, but it's so warm, round, and punchy all at the same time, it's like an adventure every time you pick it up...if you're going to do just one thing...do it RIGHT, and the P Bass is RIGHT...

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 Před 2 lety +1

    Had both, couldn't make them work for my style of playing. I like smacking my fingers in a way that's probably considered bad technique by most professionals. The P bass sounded clanky and dull, J bass sounded thin. Got a stingray and now I'm happy because it really responds well to being hit hard