What Is The Weirdest Fighting Game?
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The only thing more satisfying in Yomi Hustle then hardreading your enemy's burst, is hardreading a hardread of your enemy's burst
so not bursting? 💀
Unironically this is a really important skill.
The no-burst burst is real, much like the uncrossup and the non-mixup.
The best feeling is beating cowboy with mage
@@randomcatname7792 goddamn filthy Wizard mains man
@@Xendrick he's toxic, but cowboy is still the best
how about Lethal League Blaze, where instead of attacking each other directly instead you play dodgeball with an anti gravity baseball that you hit back and forth as it goes faster and faster until someone gets hit.
I really thought this is what he was hinting at with the Air Hockey question.
Yeah, that's the one I also thought of immediately when it comes to non-traditional fighting games. Especially with that presentation and the absolute baller Hideki Naganuma soundtrack. Like, goddamn, it deserves to be here!
Here's a couple others I came across!
Acceleration of Suguri 2 asks the question of "What if fighting game, but bullet hell?" Put two characters in a circular arena with a top-down view, give them a crapton of projectiles and set-up tools and see what happens.
Meanwhile Beat Boxers tries combining fighting games with rhythm. Just have to attack to the rhythm of the beat, otherwise mostly recognizable.
Both of these examples aren't that great though, imo. Very janky, not really balanced, the systems just aren't there yet, but very interesting explorations of that "what if" territory nonetheless.
Honestly kind of shocked it wasn’t in the video.
Yomi Hustle has become my new favourite game this year. Neutral has never been more tense.
how i got into the genre, really fun combos you can do.
I never considered that Tetris multiplayer could be classified as a fighting game before, but it does sorta make sense, I guess. It''s a 1v1 where you do combos to try to take out your opponent. Ignoring how you actually do those combos, the basic idea isn't too far from your average fighting game
We need a Tetris game with even more gimmicky character and super moves than Puyo Puyo Tetris now.
@@christophobia6415 They just need to give us Guilty Gear Tetris (or GG puzzle games in general) already
Yeah but there’s no interaction with the opponent aside from making the game go faster / dropping trash on him, can’t be considered a fighting game, surprised he didn’t mention the REAL weirdest fighting game, Ultra Fight Da Kyanta 2.
@@SimoneBellomonte This is what other puzzle games like Puyo Puyo, Petal Crash, and yes, even Puzzle Fighter, excel in much better. The interaction forms from timing attacks and building around the trash that's been thrown at you, which Tetris ultimately lacks in favor of just performing as fast as possible.
By this logic (Puzzle pirates) can be considered a fighting game
For those that don't know it is essentially an MMO where you can make ships go faster by completing puzzles
Hisoutensoku is the weirdest fighting game I've played because it is the most convoluted yet simple game ever.
Soku pog
Not to mention that every character has like 10 supers and 12 specials and system mechanics which there are a lot of
Common touhou W
Yeah. Plus Hisoutensoku kinda reminds me of Arcana Heart in some way. Both have an all female cast, a "hovering" mechanic, magical powers for said cast and strange occurrences as plotlines. What do you think?
I SCREAMED WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP WINDJAMMERS
THIS GAME IS SO UNDERRATED AND IM HAPPY YOU SHOWED IT LOVE
Same, and I did buy the sequel. It's a worthy successor.
Weirdest Fighting Games would likely be something that's already in a fringe of the genre, like a Pro-Wrestling game or even something like Twisted Metal. Even the developers themselves described the series as a Fighting Game with cars.
Wrestling games are their own genre, and Twisted Metal (alongside games like Road Rash, Vigilante 8 and Carmaggeddon) is defined as "vehicular combat."
Gekko somehow forgetting an entire fighting game subgenre that doesn't have health bars
NASB?
One hit fighters? Like one strike?
Platform Fighters
@@rogeras5966 platform fighters do have health bars, but they’re presented different
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 i would not call that a health bar, but go off king
Gekko: "these are my own words"
Also Gekko: "Cage the grappler, the simplest of the characters in the game. Don't blame me that's what the dev's said"
One of these is a lie.
What about Lethal League ? It's literally a fighting game where you combo a ball rather than your opponent
A friend has just pinged me in discord with this video because I'm the Zangief in second 0:24 . I started playing SF5 this week so the chances were pretty low. Kinda funny. Good matches by the way.
"I will not elaborate" is still so damn funny to me
"Gleam of force" series is also weird. It's 2d fighting with basic rules, expect you can't jump and there is 8-directional input for attacks. And it also look weird with giant chiby stylistic.
Yomih has single handedly made my ego inflate to insane proportions when I make a single read that turns the tide of a game
If Ultra Fight Kyanta Da 2 isn't in this video then I'll be very confused because if you ever seen that one, you KNOW it has to run for this title yes or yes
Agreeeeed
Yomi hustle is insane one you enable mods
One matchup, you could have a relatively normal match with maybe a little bit of power imbalance.
The next matchup the Eye of Cthulhu spawns in and proceeds to rip through your health bar like wet paper.
I was expecting a mention of Catherine. That really rides the "is it even a fighting game?" line harder than maybe any other. Also for fans of yomi hustle, check out Toribash. Best I can describe is like yomi hustle but 3d? Sort of? Also there's parkour/freelancing courses. It's been around forever and has a super dedicated fanbase.
If Catherine is a fighting game, then *_QBert_* is a fighting game.
More people should check out Toribash. Definetly deserves to be in a list like this one!
I agree completely. Yomi hustle is downright traditional compared to Toribash.
Fun game, I was 9th dan back in the day. I used to play that game a ton.
yomi hustle was actually inspired heavily by toribash so uh
Slap Happy Rhythm Busters is a PS1 game that is a fighting game but also a rhythm game at the same time. Its visual style is really unique and i really like the concept. It's a really good game overall although a bit obscure because it only released in Japan
Im a big fan of Touhou 12.3 (aka Hisoutensoku or Soku for short)
It's a bullet hell air dashing fighting game where most specials are crazy projectile patterns that cover the screen. The kicker is that you're immune to them when (air)dashing so neutral is all about mindgames with the opponent over when you're either going for projectiles or melee attacks. There's also a deckbuilding component where you make builds from various EX moves, supers, and buffs
The Soku 2 mod keeps on adding characters and you love to see it
Downloading it now thanks for sharing!
Touhou Hisoutensoku is a p normal fighting game all things considered, with a couple of neat quirks that set it apart from other games that could land it in a list of "weirdest fighting games." Instead of normal airdashes, all characters have 8-way airdashes that can go in any direction of the stick. Instead of having normal attack buttons, two of them are dedicated to shooting projectiles. Instead of a conventional neutral, everyone is literally able to cancel the recovery of their projectile moves into movement, such as jumps or airdashes, as well as graze/phase through projectiles using dashes and highjumps effectively turning every character into a flavor of "rushdown zoner." Instead of a timer, Soku has a weather cycle that drastically changes the game state whenever a weather is in effect. Instead of normal strike/throw mixup in pressure, characters use unreactable 10f overheads/lows mixups and projectiles to deplete the opponent's guard bar. Instead of regular meter, players create decks for their character to decide what special moves, defensive systems, and supers they'll have access to in a match as they draw them as cards. There are more quirks to this game aside from the ones just stated, but point is that when I list them out like this, you can evidently see that Soku is quirky but not fundamentally different to other fighting games (I'm lying my fucking ass off with the last part, this game is weird af).
Soku pog
Also gotta give a slight mention the newer 2hu fighters
Compared to soku they're definitely simplified but the simple question of "hey what if you could jump downwards in a fighting game" is pretty unique and quite fun
On the topic of tetris, many puzzle fighters could count as fighting games. Some notable examples are Catherine and Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo.
In case anyone thinks that the turnbased nature of Your Only Move Is Hustle has a low skill ceiling, I got perfected in ranked the other day, and before that I was challenged by Elucard, which felt even worse.
Getting challenged by Elucard is like the grim reaper knocking on your door
lethal league tbh
My pick for weirdest fighting game is between ARMS and Penguin Wars.
Genuinely shocked he didn't mention Ultra Fight Kyanta 2
Ken no don’t leave your wife
Mortal Kombat Chaotic is definitely a powerful contender. It's a Mortal Kombat fangame with a huge roaster of over 276 characters, the only issue is that a large chunk of that roaster is composed of extremely weird recolors and edits of the original roaster (Like a red Scorpio called "satan" and the allmighty pantherk), with balancing all over the place, it's a complete car crash of a game and it's amazing
I can't believe this video is about weird fighting games, but Ultra Fight Da! Kyanta 2 was not mentioned AT ALL. It clearly takes the cake in terms of strangeness.
I played divekick with one of the developers at pax east in like 2013, well before I got into learning fighting games beyond mk9 combos (which took til 2020)
But I'd played it a bunch with a friend and managed to fraud out the developer after he'd beaten loads of people in a row. Crowd went nuts, it felt amazing.
This is a bittersweet video, I was trying to design a boardgame that could recreate a fg experience with a friend, but covid ans everyday life got in the way and we never got back to it, and we were close to finishing it at the time. But i'm glad for the devs, i wish them all the success
Acceleration of Suguri 2 is a weird one, it's a bullet hell shmup but as a 1v1 fighting game, not even like the Touhou fighting games such as Hisoutensoku which are extremely unusual in their own right being fighting games with heavy bullet hell elements and high movement, but Suguri 2 is like straight up bullet hell shmup
Is it like the Touhou phantasmagoria games?
That actually sounds like it could be a cool idea if made well. I don'tt know how Suguri 2 plays. but when you said qv1 fighting game meets bullet hell shmup, I iimediately imagined something with smaller character sprites and weird and elaborate movement techs that allow moves to be bullet spammy and busted in any other game, but allows characters to weave between the opponents bullets as they throw out their own touhou attacks.
@@KrakenInAJar oh no, you actually fight each other directly, it has special grazing movement just like Hisoutensoku (which btw you completely freely move anywhere on the screen, much more like an actual shmup) but when you do you build up a meter that greatly increases the damage you take next time you get hit so you cant just spam it without risk- actually now that i said that reminds me its similar to RISC in GG, the more you block (dodge) the more damage you'll take if you do get hit
btw i havent really played the game much so i couldnt tell you too much about it its just something i happen to be a little familiar with that i thought of
The most real fighting game I've ever played is any orchestral instrument (you're fighting the urge to bite your fingers off because you played F Sharp instead of F Natural)
That was a clean edit in the beginning, holy cow!
yall, I checked the kickstarter, WE GOTTA HIT 12K!
Really big fan of all the Ape Escape OST goodness in this video. I need to try Yomi Hustle it feels hard to grasp the gameplay from a video essay perspective
I can back up the weirdest fighting game. Whether or not it was a joke, there is a game that used Tetris as a fighting game feature. Back in Mortal Kombat Deception, there was a mode called Puzzle Kombat where you had chibi versions of some of the roster that had their own meters to build for special moves. Of course, both of you were playing 1v1 Tetris. SUCH a fun game mode.
Im so happy that yomi is getting so popular
Hello there. You may be interested in looking at an old 1993 game released by Konami called Martial Champion. It's very weird (and on Fightcade), and I personally think it's a great hidden gem. Here's a rundown on most of the game's mechanics:
It has 3 attack buttons, but instead of them being designated by speed or strength, they're "high", "mid" and "low", meaning everyone has dedicated anti-air and low buttons. Furthermore, everyone has exactly 2 special moves, and combos are impossible, since everyone is invincible during hitstun.
Rather than having specific moves like sweeps knock down the opponent, only every 4th hit you land knocks down the opponent, and throwing resets the number of hits.
Also, throws are instant, can grab airborne opponents, and there's no throw teching. So, to prevent abuse, the devs gave throws a ~5 second cooldown timer. (Additionally, Bobby, Racheal, and Goldor have air throws.)
After being knocked down, during a 10 frame window in the middle of your own wake-up, you can throw while still in your invincible waking up state. The opponent cannot hurt you during this time frame, meaning to avoid this invincible throw they can't be next to you. If they go for a crossup, you'll have to switch which direction you're holding to throw them. It won't work if they're too high in the air, but if they're close to the ground you can still grab them. You will have to watch out for this on the opponent's wake up as well.
Jumps are normally rather slow, but if you do a forward jump, and then input an attack button, your character will gain a sudden burst of horizontal speed, and fall either faster or slower depending on the character and button you chose, this speed can allow you to cross the entire screen in 1 jump, and mix up your landing in general, since you choose when to attack to gain speed.
5 out of the 10 characters have weapons. If they get knocked down, they can lose the weapon. Anyone can pick it up and use it for themselves by crouching on top of it, forcing you to knock them down to get it back. If you're already holding a weapon when taking one, it swaps the weapons.
that was the only sponsor i watched fully and was interested in
Wind Jammers gives me the vibes I got from the original X-Box game Deathrow (Ubisoft). Lost gem, that one. Tones of fun - throw the disk into the goal to win. No, it doesn't matter if you break the limbs of your opponents first and take steroids in the process of winning.
You forgot to mention Neo Geo Super Dodge Ball, an update version from Kunio Dodgeball series. But you mentioned Tetris and as a puzzle fighter, I WILL MENTION MAGICAL DROP 3.
I’d be a troll and say something like “every platform fighter counts by that criteria :)” but I’m seeing a lot of people being up Lethal League and totally agreeing. It’s way more in line with a platform fighter mechanically, but even by plat fighter standards it’s pretty wacky lol.
I stumbled onto your channel and I love watching your content, and seeing my mod Slimpurt mentioned here was quite the surprise to say the least 🧡
Gekko I'm begging you if you like card games and fighting games you have to try exceed fighting system.
I'm telling you it's the best interpretation of a 2D fighter in a boardgame. They even have sets of sf characters, blazblue, even undernight and shovel knight.
The cloaker sound at the beginning legit scared me
Know what? When I’m done with my current project, I’m gonna try to make a weird fighting game. No motion inputs, only one attack button, instead way to many situational moves like aerials and also smash bros-ish stages. Also, omnidirectional blocking like smash and shit tons of movement.
Basically smash but health bar and no special.
Hmm now that I think about it, I might have to think through this idea again.
Divekick is the best fighting game ever.
Thought when you said "Do you like air hockey?" you were gonna show Lethal League Blaze
Congratulations, this video legitimately made me into a competitive Fatal Knockout player. I have 1 tournament win under and it’s all because I found it in this vid.
I am so glad that he showed Divekick in this video.
Fantasy Strike developers released their game as a card battler first, also called Yomi
Whenever I see YOMI now alls I can hear is "THIS IS THE END- THIS IS THE- THIS IS THE END OF YOUR LIFE" As moonwalker spawns a million hats
Struggle, I meant hustle
I made a game, mostly just for family and friends that is similar to Fatal Knockout, a fighting board game, and had a blast playing it... and losing to everyone I played against.
Somehow, I'm the worst player of my own game...
It's actually very normal for a creator of a game to be terrible at it. Knowing how you intended it to work gives you a disadvantage
@Random Cat Name that makes a lot of sense, harder for me to see how it actually works if all I see is how I wanted it to work
If you ever make a part 2, you definitely need to check out lethal league blaze. They made a fighting game into a ball sport (or something like mixing pong with dodge ball)
The only good answer is obviously Rock Paper Scissors.
No no, actually it's Lethal League Blaze.
Pocket Fighter uses the same sprites for a lot of characters as Super Puzzle Fighter, which is neat I think.
Any pre-SFII game is likely to be "weird", be it Karate Champ, Pit-Fighter, Final Blow, Galactic Warriors, Shanghai Kid, Street Smart, Urban Champion, Tongue of the Fatman, King of the Monsters. Windjammers gets a mentioned often in the fighting community right now because of the new game, but there are a lot of similar weird fighting games that don't happen to be trendy at this moment.
I don't even think Windjammers is a fighting game. It's a competitive game, but it's a sports game or just Pong. If Windjammers is a fighting game, every real-time 1 on 1 game is a fighting game.
Also, you've never heard of "Data East" before? Hoo, boy. This is one of the really big companies of the arcade era. Data East was the first company important in the history of fighting games, even before Capcom. I get that it's hard to know who is important if you are young, but if you don't know then you may not be a Bad enough Dude to make this video (joke).
You are spittin'. Windjammers is a known game in the FGC because it is a competitive game and it's 1v1 and it's on fightcade. It's not a fighting game anymore than mario tennis.
Toribash is not mentioned and that game is basically what the title of the video is talking about.
Finally played strive today. Turns out I'm a potemkin main
"Your only move is hustle" looks like RPS on steroids.
You forgot the classic, Photo Dojo for the DS
I wish I didn’t pour so many hours into Tobal No.1, remember when they had huge plans for that game?
How can you make this video and NOT bring up Toribash in some capacity?
That aside, really good watch! Excited to see your future content.
Jesus you posted a video at a great time
Thanks you m8
i feel like wanba warriors and lethal league deserve a mention
@gekkosquirrel I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Lethal League Blaze, but great video as always :)
Super gem fighters also have 2 secret characters which is Akuma and Dan
The Frisbee one reminds me of Lethal League Blaze, also great vid!
You skipped the (likely) reason Your Only Move Is Hustle had to change its name. There is ANOTHER, even earlier tabletop fighting game named Yomi, it's a card game and there's also a Steam version. Made by David Sirlin btw.
Puyo Puyo is more like a fighting game than Tetris, and Puyo players all know it!
shoutout my homie ivy for making your only move is hustle!!
I cant believe he didn’t mention red mist 😔
No lethal league?
How dare you not mention "Ultra Fight Dya! Kyanta 2". Sure the style gameplay-wise is fairly traditional, but that can't be said for... anything else about it lol.
I AM KINOKO. YOU ARE KINOKO. WE ARE KINOKO.
Glad to see gecko talk about yomi 😀
toribash probably, its like y.o.m.i. but you need a doctorate in human biology to figure out how to punch the enemy
Surprised to not see a single platform fighter in this video.
Honestly wished you would've talked about lethal league blaze but other than that banger video
Could have made a good case for lethal league blaze tbh
Sailor Moon Super S for the Super Family Computer it is a japanese only game (English Patches exists online) where some Magic Girls based of the Solar System throwing magic,punch and kick each other until someone is defeated
There are correct if i am wrong 11 Characters in the game
- Mercury
- Venus
- Moon
- Super Moon
- Chibi Moon
- Mars
- Jupiter
- Saturn
- Uranus
- Neptune
- Pluto
With each character having 3 skins each (Color Swaps) by selecting them with B you get the default skin,by pressing L on the character you get the first skin and by pressing R on the character you get the second skin
There is Multiplayer by 2 Players on the same screen or you can fight against the CPU and there is also a Pratice mode where the CPU just lets you attack her as much as you wanted without defending herself
Your only move is hustle looks like a crazy yu gi oh game while playing like a Hyun dojo video at full speed
The game isn't out yet but, I did play the early access was God of Rock. Basically fighting games meet Guitar Hero.
i am disappointed at the lack of mention of lethal league
Did you happen to ever play knockout city? That's one of the weirdest "Fighting games" in my book but one of my all time favorites
I like your dancing, it’s like you’re mocking me.
I think Puyo Puyo is more of a fighting game than tetris, and you might want to check out Terris Battle Gaiden
You might also check out Yomi the card game. Similar idea to the fatal knockout game but the whole thing is based around mind games with basically non-existent maneuvering (outside of a couple character's special abilities).
HE REALLY DID NOT ELABORATED?!
YOMI Hustle mentioned:
Video clicked.
Bruh now I want to get fatal knockout. It looks so dope ngl.
Don't mind me, I'm just going to use some of the examples listed here when people say talk about wanting to play fighting games without execution.
PvP Tetris is insanely intense
I’m surprised Lethal League wasn’t brought up
My answer to the title would be Kakutou Densetsu without a single doubt.
Okay, hear me out: Fencing (the Olympic sport, not the act of setting up fences) is a fighting game.
from my understanding YOMIH is basically Toribash as a 2d fighter
That air hockey game gave me Lethal League vides. That's a weird fighting game too. Also not even a shoutout to Ultra Fight Da ! Kyanta 2 smh my head
windjammers is technically a fighting game
Data east was like one of the biggest arcade game and pinball developers back in the day. They even made some console games. But its ok if you never heard of them its ok to be a zoom zoom.